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Team17 Experimental Cup

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Name: Team17 Experimental Cup - T17 cup with a new scheme and $30 prize
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Joining required percentage: 50%
Created: October 07, 2015, 02:46 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Team17 balanced
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: October 09, 2015, 12:00 PM

Finished


Description:
This is a Team17 cup with a new scheme edition. The cup has also a little carrot: $30 for the winner (via PayPal) ;)

The cup scheme is a remix of Chicken23's "Balanced T17" scheme. Likewise in Chicken23's scheme, the most weapons have an equal chance of occuring in a crate. See the differences:



Other than that, the scheme is the same as TUS scheme.

Cup details:
- 16 players
- TUS rules
- Use the cup scheme only!
- KO single-elimination
- All games Bo1
- $20 $30 for the winner (Sponsored by VoK, originally by MI/obscure :-[)

Knockout

Deadline: November 15, 2015, 09:00 PM


Final


Bronze Match


Gold

Silver

Bronze





Groups

Deadline: October 25, 2015, 09:00 PM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Poland Chelsea dt pH Kf BoM 4 4 0
Croatia doza 4 2 2
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan BFW ae dS 4 2 2
Chile Lukz TaG ea 3 1 2
Australia Kangaroo BFW pH ae 3 0 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [9]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200145 Poland Chelsea Australia Kangaroo
1:0
November 05, 2015, 10:50 AM 0
199791 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Australia Kangaroo
1:0
October 26, 2015, 10:59 AM 0
199632 Croatia doza Australia Kangaroo
1:0
October 22, 2015, 09:01 AM 0
199536 Croatia doza Chile Lukz
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:53 PM 0
199535 Chile Lukz Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:34 PM 0
199524 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Croatia doza
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:04 PM 0
199336 Poland Chelsea Croatia doza
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:12 PM 0
199333 Poland Chelsea Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0
October 15, 2015, 02:37 PM 0
199235 Poland Chelsea Chile Lukz
1:0
October 12, 2015, 04:14 PM 0

[October 19, 2015, 12:14 PM] Croatia doza: if you see me in AG -> PM
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Netherlands HHC che ea meow VDV 4 4 0
Israel Almog ea 4 3 1
Brazil KungPow WM` 3 1 2
Norway Kradie ZaR 3 0 3
Finland Free dt WAR ea 2 0 2
Games [8]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199473 Netherlands HHC Brazil KungPow
1:0
October 17, 2015, 10:02 PM 0
199463 Israel Almog Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 07:49 PM 0
199460 Israel Almog Brazil KungPow
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:48 PM 0
199454 Netherlands HHC Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199449 Brazil KungPow Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:19 PM 0
199349 Israel Almog Finland Free
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:54 PM 0
199348 Netherlands HHC Finland Free
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199342 Netherlands HHC Israel Almog
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:44 PM 0
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Germany WhiteRqbbit ea 4 3 1
Hungary Csongi dP rM ea 4 2 2
Poland Hussar dP ea 4 2 2
Brazil GreatProfe CKC CWC ae DOS 4 2 2
Bulgaria taner MTY MAF 4 1 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200087 Brazil GreatProfe Poland Hussar
1:0
November 02, 2015, 10:24 PM 0
200052 Germany WhiteRqbbit Brazil GreatProfe
1:0
November 01, 2015, 06:18 PM 0
199760 Hungary Csongi Brazil GreatProfe
1:0
October 25, 2015, 06:26 PM 0
199757 Brazil GreatProfe Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 25, 2015, 04:01 PM 1
5/5
199640 Germany WhiteRqbbit Hungary Csongi
1:0
October 22, 2015, 08:06 PM 0
199639 Poland Hussar Germany WhiteRqbbit
1:0
October 22, 2015, 07:24 PM 0
199509 Poland Hussar Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 18, 2015, 06:55 PM 0
5/5
199490 Germany WhiteRqbbit Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 18, 2015, 03:05 PM 0
5/5
199455 Bulgaria taner Hungary Csongi
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:21 PM 0
199356 Hungary Csongi Poland Hussar
1:0
October 15, 2015, 07:24 PM 0

[October 16, 2015, 11:11 AM] Bulgaria taner: PM me on AG noobs
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Finland VoK TdC VDV 4 3 1
Finland Senator TdC VDV 4 3 1
Italy Sbaffo dt 420 4 2 2
Ukraine Lancelot RS tS pH 4 1 3
Ukraine Asbest 4 1 3
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199635 Italy Sbaffo Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 22, 2015, 12:28 PM 0
5/5
199525 Finland Senator Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:09 PM 0
5/5
199489 Finland VoK Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 18, 2015, 02:32 PM 0
5/5
199488 Finland VoK Italy Sbaffo
1:0
October 18, 2015, 01:57 PM 0
199403 Ukraine Asbest Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 16, 2015, 05:27 PM 0
199396 Italy Sbaffo Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 16, 2015, 01:15 PM 0
199350 Ukraine Lancelot Finland VoK
1:0
October 15, 2015, 06:01 PM 0
199343 Finland Senator Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:08 PM 0
199303 Finland VoK Finland Senator
1:0
October 14, 2015, 03:03 PM 0
199249 Finland Senator Italy Sbaffo
1:0
October 12, 2015, 07:45 PM 0

[October 15, 2015, 03:48 PM] Ukraine Lancelot: i will bw in #AG 15-20:00 GMT time

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Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2015, 11:20 AM »
You didn;t have to exclude anyone, you could have just waited for 1 more and started with 20. You would still have got the feedback you wanted on the scheme.

It just seems like elitism. You are one of those who is always moaning about the drop in activity... how do you expect new players to start playing if they just get discarded from cups and such? It's a shame to see imo.

With 4 players groups the cup runs more smoothly (u need to arrange games only with 3 players instead of 4). I even asked HHC's opinion on this before I decided to stick to the original plan of 16 players.

 Senator: [October 10, 2015, 11:31 AM]
hhc, 16 or 20 players for t17 cup ??
 Senator: [October 10, 2015, 11:31 AM]
5 players groups too big?

Those players got discarded only because we had extra players and I was worried that we would have problems finishing the cup with 5 players groups.

There are 15 other cups atm besides all the leagues. That's a lot from which to choose.

Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2015, 11:36 AM »
@Kradie

I had no idea how experienced u are. Tus stats are pretty much the only source out there and u hadn't any stats. That indicates u haven't played the tus scheme version much.

A prize is involved because obviously not many would be interested in pure scheme testing. At the same time I wanted a high level competition, which wouldn't be possible without a prize.

I thought about closed signups and at first I had "players will be chosen based on T17 ratings" written in the cup details. But then I realized we might not get enough players that way :-[

@spleen17

Imo it's totally fine to have signups open for some days and then choose players based on objective measures (rating/played games). It would be stupid to just give the spots to those who surf on TUS sites several times per day. This arrangement indeed was fair because it gave everyone a chance, not just for the most active members. I could have selected players by random instead but obviously I didn't want to exclude the best t17 players.

So it's just better to exclude people who haven't got a rating on tus and who might not have played that particular version of the same? This is something that you should have mentioned, You could have taken the liberty to send a private message to those who are in the danger zone and ask about their commitment instead of striking them out.

Listen to what you said here
Quote
This is "experimental cup" so I wanted players who have a lot of experience of T17 to participate, that's why it was appropriate to choose players based on T17 experience/rating.
and now this
Quote
A prize is involved because obviously not many would be interested in pure scheme testing. At the same time I wanted a high level competition, which wouldn't be possible without a prize.

First this was an experimental cup, then later on in this thread you revealed it's a high level competition, which again you failed to leave in the cup details.

Senator, we had plenty of players, we were close to 20, we only lacked 1 more player. Instead you favored the aristocracy aka the elitists. You rather deal with what you know instead of the unknown with no tittles. 

This whole cup is unfair and Senator swings back and fort of what he wants and what he doesn't. Because of this, no one was really given a chance. I find this situation distasteful.
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Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2015, 12:01 PM »
Hmm? I don't see how my expectations for this cup are in conflict in any way. As mentioned, I wanted

1. get feedback on this scheme version compared to TUS scheme
2. have a high level t17 cup

In both cases experienced t17 players are desired, and in both cases a prize is useful.

Not all players in this cup are experienced t17 players. I could reselect 12 players based on ratings, then select the rest 4 randomly out of the remaining 7 players (using RandomBot in WN) and replace players depending on the result. How does that sound to u?

Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2015, 12:25 PM »
While I appreciate your approach for solution it wouldn't justify anything. It would only remove players that wanted to partake in an open cup. 
Your thuughts & desires came more apparent as the thread expanded, which again wasn't included in the limited requirements to join this specific cup.
You could reconcile and have this cup open again and let those who were wrongly tossed away get a new chance to come back.
IF you really wanted a cup for the high and mighty, you could have arranged it differently.
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Offline Almog

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2015, 02:48 PM »
KungPow
HHC
Free

I'm available on Friday/Saturday (flexible). tell me what time you want in these days and I'll arrange it.
I also prefer if u could send me a PM so I don't miss your message


Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2015, 07:47 PM »
Sorry but I don't want 5 players groups so case closed then.. Chelsea and Lukz also played one game already so can't make changes anymore.

Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2015, 07:53 PM »
Senator, you should be wise to take this advice: If you want to play with your friends, make it private, and don't differentiate people by their rank, it's wrong.
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Offline GreatProfe

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2015, 05:39 PM »
What a group I have gotten!

Csongi, Berria, WhiteRabbit:

Is Next Sunday 17 GMT fine?

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2015, 08:46 PM »
We are moving to 5 players groups after all. Apologies for the bad cup info and welcome back Kradie + the others :-[

Offline Kangaroo

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2015, 10:58 AM »
I can play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends
please tell me when you can play and I will try be  there !

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I can play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends...

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2015, 08:38 AM »
I can play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends
please tell me when you can play and I will try be  there !

Chelsea, Lukz and Mega'Adnan, please reply to pizzasheet's message. Otherwise u risk giving a free win to him..

GreatProfe, propose a new date and the others should then reply. You could also have a visit in AG (they all use snooper) ;)

Offline Chelsea

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2015, 08:49 AM »
I can play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends
please tell me when you can play and I will try be  there !

Chelsea, Lukz and Mega'Adnan, please reply to pizzasheet's message. Otherwise u risk giving a free win to him..

GreatProfe, propose a new date and the others should then reply. You could also have a visit in AG (they all use snooper) ;)

hahhahaha xD I saw him online 3 times -> last week, thursday and friday he didn't anser me and yesterday he didn't wnana play coz he was drunk...  ::)

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2015, 10:17 AM »
hahhahaha xD I saw him online 3 times -> last week, thursday and friday he didn't anser me and yesterday he didn't wnana play coz he was drunk...  ::)

Ok but he is waiting that u tell him date & time (within given hours), then he will show up in AG :P

Offline GreatProfe

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2015, 11:11 AM »
I can play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends
please tell me when you can play and I will try be  there !

Chelsea, Lukz and Mega'Adnan, please reply to pizzasheet's message. Otherwise u risk giving a free win to him..

GreatProfe, propose a new date and the others should then reply. You could also have a visit in AG (they all use snooper) ;)

I already did with Berria and I'm going to play the entire Sunday too.

Offline GreatProfe

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2015, 04:03 PM »
still waiting my group mates show their faces :)