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Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2014, 11:56 AM »
I'd like to see those all players who are commenting here, at least peering WA lol ... when we will see players like:

Zippeurfou
Aerox
Ray
DarkOne
Anubis
Fenice
Triad
Xrayez
darKz
Komito
Casso
senator
Ryan
Korydex

clanning, we would have easily clanners PO


here we have 14 f@#!ING PLAYERS, sorry for this dudes, but here u're talking BS, why do u guys comment here btw ??? have u ever at least play clanner lately??? do u comment here because u want to be popular ??? U CAN'T SAY U'RE COMMENTING HERE CUZ U WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO THIS LACK OF CLANNERS ROFL, we have no ''new'' players clanning and we won't have new players if this clan league is totally inactive..

Money WON'T FIX ANYTHING, what would happen donating $50 000 ?? all ''pro'' players would be recruited in a clan and they simply gain the money... easy lol

If u guys really want to do something take the break to comment here  AND JOIN WA AND FKING PLAAAY !!!

Making a post takes 1-5 minutes. If it took twice as along to find a clanner I would have played a couple since this thread was made. I did try.

You're the one clearly looking for attention mind you, why else would you make a player list and fail at making a point?

edit: when you see the current cFc line-up, as opposed to the last, regardless of skill, I can understand why there's less interest in even logging to wormnet.   There's no charisma left in this game. The only real rivarly we have left have Chelsea with Impo that is basically the paraolympics and really little else going on in favor of making this an interesting place.

Good job, internet justice moral warriors.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 12:50 PM by Aerox »
MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
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Offline KinslayeR

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #106 on: September 01, 2014, 12:10 PM »
I cant even find sigle tusk, wtf with tusk clanner, dead dead dead,  no any solution, ppl prefer play new Call of duty and GTA than stupid worms, only nerds like me still play this shit

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Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #107 on: September 01, 2014, 12:24 PM »
I cant even find sigle tusk, wtf with tusk clanner, dead dead dead,  no any solution, ppl prefer play new Call of duty and GTA than stupid worms, only nerds like me still play this shit

My clan in Counter-strike miss me xD WO just finnished, maybe now TUS will be more active :P

Offline TheKaren

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #108 on: September 01, 2014, 01:11 PM »
Besides, the last clan I was actively in was AeF, I used to sit for up to 8-10 hours at a time in AG looking for clanners, at that point AeF was the most active clan with the most games played every season, out of all the time i'd sit looking for clanners at least 50% of that time was wasted because there wasn't anyone else on.

I do not want to be that person again that sits and wastes his life playing a game especially when it's literally sitting doing nothing because of not being able to find a game most of the time...

Offline Chicken23

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #109 on: September 01, 2014, 03:00 PM »
roperz has a point tho.

If people where taking the time to search, their would be more people to find clanners.

Things will be fine.

Offline Rogi

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2014, 03:18 PM »
I cant even find sigle tusk, wtf with tusk clanner, dead dead dead,  no any solution, ppl prefer play new Call of duty and GTA than stupid worms, only nerds like me still play this shit
lmao.
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Offline Fenice

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2014, 07:05 PM »
Fenice

I don't give a shit about clanners anymore, mostly if the only one who's there to play against it's you.

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Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2014, 07:42 PM »
I'd like to see those all players who are commenting here, at least peering WA lol ... when we will see players like:

Zippeurfou
Aerox
Ray
DarkOne
Anubis
Fenice
Triad
Xrayez
darKz
Komito
Casso
senator
Ryan
Korydex

clanning, we would have easily clanners PO


here we have 14 f@#!ING PLAYERS, sorry for this dudes, but here u're talking BS, why do u guys comment here btw ??? have u ever at least play clanner lately??? do u comment here because u want to be popular ??? U CAN'T SAY U'RE COMMENTING HERE CUZ U WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO THIS LACK OF CLANNERS ROFL, we have no ''new'' players clanning and we won't have new players if this clan league is totally inactive..

Money WON'T FIX ANYTHING, what would happen donating $50 000 ?? all ''pro'' players would be recruited in a clan and they simply gain the money... easy lol

If u guys really want to do something take the break to comment here  AND JOIN WA AND FKING PLAAAY !!!
Ae my name is there.

First of all I guess your opininon is like WA Activity = Classic singles/clanners. But it's not. Not everybody likes Classic league. Classic league is one of the four activated leagues in TUS besides TFL, TRL and TEL. For example acitve clans in TUS Classic and WO are not same. Top 3 clan in this WO was RS, che and UC. And none of them is pretty active in TUS classic right? And vice versa for active TUS Classic clans.

For example I prefer TFL than Classic. I like Big RR, Darts, Abnormal, Mine Madness, Plop War etc. Most of UC members prefers TFL too I guess. Some peoples prefers Classic, some of them even doesn't play other schemes. Once I asked Csongi can he join Abnormal Tournament in WO, he said he never played it. Abnormal is a new scheme, also one of the most popular in TFL. I understand him. He likes old stuffs, "classic" stuffs he knows more. You know, not everybody likes to try new things like me.

Also forget the leagues for a moment. There are challenges, cups and tournaments. You can play challenges whenever you want to(even after deadline) and you don't have to sit and wait for people. And let's look at cups and tournaments. You can join them when your favorite schemes hosted and you can arrange your game when both side is cool with the time and date.

Basically I understand you want to play some clanners with your fellas and enjoy, but remember that there are a lot way to enjoy this great game not everybody prefers the same way.

I'm sorry, seems like me and most members in my clan won't be active for classic clanners at the moment. But sure we can play some TFL clanners if anyone wants. :)



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Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2014, 08:54 PM »

I'm sorry, seems like me and most members in my clan won't be active for classic clanners at the moment. But sure we can play some TFL clanners if anyone wants. :)

You'd get ethered back in the day for this.

If you lost every single TFL clanner you played, like it happened when you gave regular clanners a try then you'd have the same opinion about it. Comformist.
MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #114 on: September 01, 2014, 09:43 PM »
Be that as it may, ropa, the reason W:A has survived this long is because of its versatility (at least, in my opinion). Don't like BnG? Play a roping scheme. Don't like that either? Play T17 or elite. Don't like any of the classic league schemes? Try your hand at sheeprace or bungeerace. And then there's customised challenges you can make (battlerace challenges, RR challenges in their earliest draft, later on TCB and later still the challenges on TUS).

Even in the competitive days, it was like this. For RR, everybody was talking about volrin and how awesome a RRer he was. I don't think he played a lot of elite or BnG (though I didn't know him well enough to know this for a fact). He stayed with what he enjoyed. Volcom went 40-0 in cl2k. He did that by winning his ropers using DoN. The amount of people who were good at just about everything has always been very limited. There's Mablak and Random00, of course, as the ones sticking out (though you might argue that they are from a later generation of wormers), a couple more behind that who were only slightly less good at all the schemes, but just beyond that, you get the players who were obviously better at one or 2 particular schemes.

Personally, I started playing shoppers, went on to RR, then bungeerace, then hysteria (before it turned into abnormal), back to bungeerace and then abnormal. If I couldn't have made these switches, I would have quit WA years ago (not that I have a lot of time to play it nowadays). Of course being the best at everything is motivation for some people - go for it. W:A is still an evolving game in that aspect and it would mean being better than the specialists at their game, still plenty of challenges there.

But in the end, people stick with what they like. Money is just another incentive, but if there's only money involved and no fun, people won't go for it. (or they'd go play poker oslt where the money is better than with W:A)

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Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2014, 08:14 AM »
Be that as it may, ropa, the reason W:A has survived this long is because of its versatility (at least, in my opinion). Don't like BnG? Play a roping scheme. Don't like that either? Play T17 or elite. Don't like any of the classic league schemes? Try your hand at sheeprace or bungeerace. And then there's customised challenges you can make (battlerace challenges, RR challenges in their earliest draft, later on TCB and later still the challenges on TUS).

I don't know a single person that has sticked to the game a reasonable time and became somewhat relevant (in whatever the slightest sense) without exploring and getting into, at least, one of the main schemes, those with enough depth to have you striving to improve when you're already good enough. Wait, I do, but it's only after the introduction of hysteria.

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Even in the competitive days, it was like this. For RR, everybody was talking about volrin and how awesome a RRer he was. I don't think he played a lot of elite or BnG (though I didn't know him well enough to know this for a fact). He stayed with what he enjoyed. Volcom went 40-0 in cl2k. He did that by winning his ropers using DoN. The amount of people who were good at just about everything has always been very limited. There's Mablak and Random00, of course, as the ones sticking out (though you might argue that they are from a later generation of wormers), a couple more behind that who were only slightly less good at all the schemes, but just beyond that, you get the players who were obviously better at one or 2 particular schemes.

I don't agree. You seem to be jumping from one era to a distant other whilst ignornig pretty much most of what made worms competitive back in the day. Volrin and Volcom were never specially important league players, volrin didn't know how to play clanners, heck, he was an average league roper because after he fell once he, and I quote, "stopped trying", yes, Volcom had one 50-0 season where he only roped, but he (we) also dominated a clan season with t5x where he also Bnged. But then you can't just ignore the most succesful clans in Worms history, that lived through big chunks of worm's most competitive era, clans like HoS, that were filled with all arounders because it was already a thing long before Random00 and Mablak. It wasn't rare for ropers to know how to BnG. And then Elite became popular, and it started being picked in clanners in CL2K. The best clans through all leagues had all arounders. Gimmick clans like PROD, NBR and the such were never relevant in the league scene and never much cared for clanners.

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Personally, I started playing shoppers, went on to RR, then bungeerace, then hysteria (before it turned into abnormal), back to bungeerace and then abnormal. If I couldn't have made these switches, I would have quit WA years ago (not that I have a lot of time to play it nowadays). Of course being the best at everything is motivation for some people - go for it. W:A is still an evolving game in that aspect and it would mean being better than the specialists at their game, still plenty of challenges there.

how much classic league and clanning do you do?

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But in the end, people stick with what they like. Money is just another incentive, but if there's only money involved and no fun, people won't go for it. (or they'd go play poker oslt where the money is better than with W:A)

and you know what most people like regardless of scheme preference? Competition. You'd be surprised how many people sign up to a league for that  :-X
And there's a reason tennis is bigger than ping pong but if you ask people most of them rather play ping pong because anyone can play ping pong.
MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2014, 12:49 PM »
I don't know a single person that has sticked to the game a reasonable time and became somewhat relevant (in whatever the slightest sense) without exploring and getting into, at least, one of the main schemes, those with enough depth to have you striving to improve when you're already good enough. Wait, I do, but it's only after the introduction of hysteria.

Not sure where you're going with this. The examples I've mentioned are specialists who focus on one or two schemes. I'm not saying they never played other schemes, but it was their forté.

I don't agree. You seem to be jumping from one era to a distant other whilst ignornig pretty much most of what made worms competitive back in the day. Volrin and Volcom were never specially important league players, volrin didn't know how to play clanners, heck, he was an average league roper because after he fell once he, and I quote, "stopped trying", yes, Volcom had one 50-0 season where he only roped, but he (we) also dominated a clan season with t5x where he also Bnged. But then you can't just ignore the most succesful clans in Worms history, that lived through big chunks of worm's most competitive era, clans like HoS, that were filled with all arounders because it was already a thing long before Random00 and Mablak. It wasn't rare for ropers to know how to BnG. And then Elite became popular, and it started being picked in clanners in CL2K. The best clans through all leagues had all arounders. Gimmick clans like PROD, NBR and the such were never relevant in the league scene and never much cared for clanners.

I'm going have to disagree with you there. NBR might not have been one of the top clans in leagues, but they were the specialists who set the standard in their respective schemes. In an allround league, Ryan was never a top contender, but he raised the bar for RRing - competitiveness. And the allrounders had to aim for his skill level if they wanted to be a force to reckon with in all schemes.
You're looking at the creme of the crop, but you have to realise that you need a solid player base to get anywhere in terms of skill. If you have a league that only panders to the top 10, then you lose the interest of the other players. And sometimes, a new top player emerges from the 'other players'. Not often, but then, if it were a very regular appearance, then they wouldn't really be top players.

how much classic league and clanning do you do?

Classic: none at all, clanning: hardly at all. My point was that your view is very narrow. You are proving my point.

and you know what most people like regardless of scheme preference? Competition. You'd be surprised how many people sign up to a league for that  :-X

Oh my god! You have enlightened me! Competition. I never thought of that. How could I have been so blind?
No shit, sherlock. That doesn't change that people play in competitions of games they like. Someone who loves league of legends won't enroll in a counterstrike league unless he or she likes counterstrike too.

And there's a reason tennis is bigger than ping pong but if you ask people most of them rather play ping pong because anyone can play ping pong.

It's debatable whether tennis is bigger than tabletennis - tabletennis is immensely popular in china, south korea, taiwan, etcetera. You don't see that cause, well, you don't live there. It's a cultural thing. And the competition in table tennis is immense at the top, same goes with chess, draughts, badminton, swimming, cycling (doping, anyone?), boxing etcetera.

Another big factor in how "popular" a sport is (though the definition of popular is very debatable), is how easily you can watch it on tv. If it's more accessible to the ordinary viewer, more people will watch it, more sponsors, more money, more time on tv.
Badminton for example is not so easily accessible for viewing. Competitive as hell, though:

Offline TheKaren

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #117 on: September 02, 2014, 01:20 PM »
Be that as it may, ropa, the reason W:A has survived this long is because of its versatility

This, is spot on.

Totally agree with everything you are saying D1.

I want to add that being an all-rounder way way way back "then" in the HoS/TEA era was only 3 schemes, not that impressive compared to what people can do today, not to mention the fact many players appeared better than they actually were thanks to DON.

I believe the very best BnG/Roper/Elite players of the past 2-5 years are more skilled than back then in the HoS/TEA era.

Sure, there were MORE really good Ropers & BnG players & Elite players, BUT, back then the maps were easier, the schemes were less advanced, Elite tactics have advanced & been mastered more, BnG is on a completely higher level of skill, the Roper maps people used to play on back then would get laughed at presently.

I would put my money on my peak BnG skills vs anyone that ever existed during that era, Mablaks peak roping skills vs anyone that ever existed during that era, and Mablak/Random00's peak Elite skills vs anyone that ever existed during that era & there is no doubt we would wipe the floor with them lol, at least I choose to believe that.

I've played all the best players and honestly don't think there was anything so special about the skills of the 1st 5 years of WA players for the 3 main Classic schemes (except for Warmers).

The ONLY thing I think has got worse over the years is Warmers.

Why can't people just accept these "classic schemes" just don't cut it anymore, I cherish the fact I played those schemes, I will never forget being a part of that era, it was special, it was fresh exciting & full of awesome people and so many competitive players & honestly a huge part of my life!

But this is 15 years later lol !!! Just like Elvis Presley & the Beatles went out of fashion, although still have their loyal fanbase, the majority of the population will follow fresh & exciting modern stuff ! Regardless of anyones opinion, just because it might not be YOUR perfect idea or opinion of competitive gameplay or skill, doesn't make YOUR idea or opinion correct.

I said it before and I will say it again, you CANNOT force people to like things, they must choose for themselves.

I am SO glad Free League schemes are becoming more and more popular, finally I can actually find interest in this game again :D

Free League schemes will dominate one day, in fact, they already do ahahaha !!!



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Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #118 on: September 02, 2014, 06:52 PM »

Not sure where you're going with this.

It's pretty simple, WA has survived this long because it had a community centered around a league that worked, that has failed to deliver. What's there to "understand" in what I'm saying here? Doesn't the activity of FB blow this leagues out of proportion? With, *suspense*, a 1/10th of this website's supply?

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I'm going have to disagree with you there. NBR might not have been one of the top clans in leagues, but they were the specialists who set the standard in their respective schemes. In an allround league, Ryan was never a top contender, but he raised the bar for RRing - competitiveness. And the allrounders had to aim for his skill level if they wanted to be a force to reckon with in all schemes.
You're looking at the creme of the crop, but you have to realise that you need a solid player base to get anywhere in terms of skill. If you have a league that only panders to the top 10, then you lose the interest of the other players. And sometimes, a new top player emerges from the 'other players'. Not often, but then, if it were a very regular appearance, then they wouldn't really be top players.

What is there to disagree? The subject of this thread is clanners. You're bringing up players that where at a certain given time or are unidemnsional claiming they raised the bar for others okay? Do you want to make a different thread for that? A bunch of people learned schemes they didn't like to become competitive and they ended up loving the schemes when they became competitive at them. This was a reality, one you were never part of mind, and it isn't anymore, now that you lot have had your hand in it.


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Classic: none at all, clanning: hardly at all. My point was that your view is very narrow. You are proving my point.

So the outcry that clanning is dead your answer is "I've enjoyed obscure uncompetitive schemes for years and never played a clanner yet had fun, you should too!"?


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Oh my god! You have enlightened me! Competition. I never thought of that. How could I have been so blind?
No shit, sherlock. That doesn't change that people play in competitions of games they like. Someone who loves league of legends won't enroll in a counterstrike league unless he or she likes counterstrike too.

Why use the strikethrough as if highlighting I'm stating the obvious when you seem totally alien to the concept as it was my main post point and you somehow bypassed it all talking about people and their preferences? If you were as good as Mablak is in all schemes, chances are, you would have played hundreds of clanners in your time. But we do nothing for clanners to prevail then wave the people are unique snowflakes and evolve flag.

MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.

Offline KinslayeR

Re: Last clanner playoff was 4 seasons ago. Time to do something?
« Reply #119 on: September 02, 2014, 09:01 PM »
interesting.. ppl who never try to play clanners, talk so much in that topic, solution is easy: stop talking, start playing, excuses like "post takes 1 minute, clanner takes 20 hours" is really gay, half of ppl who spam in that topic did not even join AG from years, but of course they know best and they are experts coz "once" they played 2 clanners..