I meant conversation. For example, I don’t care what method I used to get to 15

Oh, it's just W:A nerds (me included) nerding out about tiny details, mostly. Don't worry about it. All your runs are fine, no void shots.

If a trick recognition system is ever implemented I think it would be cool if tricks that are executed on the first possible frame had some sort of distinction. It could have a different text color or be described as "Perfect", "Perfect Swoosh" for example. Other tricks could have a "Perfect" variant as well. For shadows it would be when the rope is only visible for one frame on the tap and for outlaws and spikes it would be when the rope is released on the first frame you bounce off a surface. Many other tricks may have a "Perfect" variant as well.

A trick detection system would be really awesome. Imagine being able to play competitive warmers, basically something like Tony Hawk but for roping.

Quote from: Gabriel on April 23, 2024, 04:06 PM

time to rumble

hmm the start has a "gabriel cage" to force tyhe worms to go down into cavern i see

I love how Kirill was forced to design a map with Gab's f*ckeries in mind.

Triad changed it to a swoosh because when I used TA if I released rope ON THAT FRAME it shot right even though the rope was facing left.

I said if the only requirement to be a swoosh is to fire rope right then sure its a swoosh. So I assume he changed it.

Yeah. Personally, rope direction is my only requirement for a swoosh. My though process was as follows:

• Swoosh is a rope trick.
• Let's assume we are playing Trick Race, and the next trick is a swoosh. Realistically speaking, you cannot see the exact pre-release rope angle during the game; if the post-release firing angle is to the right direction, then you assume it should be a swoosh, and not an arch.
• Even if this is not a real swoosh, I believe swooshes should be retconned as such. Otherwise, will we check every suspicious swoosh at Trick Races, just as we check for possible sitters at BnG?
• Since you activate drill at Darts, and not shoot rope again, I decided to check rope angle, but now I realize that rope angles are not really trustworthy due to hidden frames.
• Thanks to TA, I was able to see the potential rope angle, and I believe it should be the only requirement.
  
  • Swooshes on Darts maps are a remix of the original swoosh. And as I said, while we're playing any roping scheme. we'd only check the shooting angle, so that's why I also applied this principle to Darts.
  • Even at Darts, you wouldn't pay attention to pre-release rope angle if the swoosh WAS NOT THE LAST TRICK BEFORE THE DRILL. For example, if it was Swoosh to Deviation, you'd only pay attention to post-release firing angle.

Tbh, it doesn't really matter anymore; Shtaket already improved his run anyways.

I'm looking for a roper (player) to help me on this task for years. Nobody ever accepted the idea. It is a lot of work and complicated, sure. But, if I had more knowledge about the tricks I would do this myself long time ago. Even with my limited knowledge I always think about starting the idea and see how people react to fix the article if needed. At least the very basic tricks. If a roper be available and want to work on this project, let me know. I can do the stuff myself, I just need someone to correct me and some orientation on how it should be done better.

Maybe I can help with some stuff. Indeed, it would be better to start with the core tricks first, then you would be able to explain the more complex ones easier. For example, if you know what Spikes and Shadows are, it'd be easier to understand Wizards, because a Wizard is essentially a Spike+Shadow. And if you understand Wizards, then you can understand Warlocks, because a Warlock is a Swing+Wizard.

Speaking of WKB articles, we (probably me and Komo) also need to improve the Darts article.

So, basically, a more detailed poll would be like this:

• TELEPORTS (⚠️Darksiding must be clearly defined⚠️)
• ❌Invading, ❌Darksiding, ❌Telecides.
• ✔️Invading, ❌Darksiding, ❌Telecides.
• ✔️Invading, ❌Darksiding, ✔️Telecides.
• ❌Invading, ✔️Darksiding, ❌Telecides
• ✔️Invading, ✔️Darksiding, ❌Telecides.
• ✔️Invading, ✔️Darksiding, ✔️Telecides.
• REAIMING
• ✔️Reaim.
• ☢️Auto reaim.
• Input > Anti-lock Aim
• RubberWorm > RubberWorm anti-lock aim
• ❌Reaim.
• SITTERS (⚠️Sitters must be clearly defined⚠️)
• ❌Sitters.
• ✔️Sitters.
• BANNED SHOTS (❌ = Banned, ✔️ = Allowed)
• ❌5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ❌1-sec nades, ❌Straight zooks.
• ✔️5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ❌1-sec nades, ❌Straight zooks.
• ❌5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ✔️1-sec nades, ❌Straight zooks.
• ❌5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ❌1-sec nades, ✔️Straight zooks.
• ✔️5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ✔️1-sec nades, ❌Straight zooks.
• ✔️5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ❌1-sec nades, ✔️Straight zooks.
• ❌5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ✔️1-sec nades, ✔️Straight zooks.
• ✔️5-sec, no-LG, min-bounce nades, ✔️1-sec nades, ✔️Straight zooks.
• FUSE
• 5-sec.
• 9-sec.
• ANTI-LOCK POWER
• ❌Anti-lock power.
• ✔️Anti-lock power.
• CIRCULAR AIM
• ❌Circular aim.
• ✔️Circular aim.

Let me know if I missed anything.

Edit: Thank you Senator for informing me about other options I forgot.

We need more TFL clanners

@Shtaket, very nice run, but the shot at 3:30 would be considered a swing/an arch rather than a swoosh due to rope angle, so unfortunately, your final score is 84 rather than 99.

This is the rope angle of that shot, one frame before you activate drill:
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Sorry about the technicalities! I asked Komito to confirm whether my assesment is right or wrong.

You achieved such a high score with a plopped worm, so I believe you can get an even better score in no time.

Cheers.