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80-normal

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Name: 80-normal
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Created: July 27, 2021, 01:42 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme 80normal
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: July 27, 2021, 12:00 AM

Finished


Description:
  • WA version 3.8 or higher is required
  • Sign up opened until the mods decide there are enough players or it has been long enough
  • Group stage games will be best-of-three games, knockout games including semifinals and the final will be best-of-five games. The terrain type sequence should be open-open-cave-cave for best-of-three games and cave-cave-open-open for best-of-five games, but the terrain type can be anything as long as both players agree.
  • Read the scheme description for very important information about the scheme
  • Each round you can choose only one type of special/team weapon to use:  pigeons (x2), sheep launcher (x1), aqua-sheep (x1), holy hand grenade (x1), flamethrower (x1), cows (x2) or old woman (x1). Moles do not count as special weapon. In different rounds you can use different special weapons. If in one round you use more than one type of special weapon, you lose the round. For example, you can use 2 cows on round 1 and 2 pigeons on round two, but you cannot use cows and pigeons on round 1
  • Komito will be streaming some of the matches, players cannot refuse to have their game streamed and are not allowed to watch the streaming of the match they are playing
  • There will be a $40 prize for the winner. Will be paid via PayPal only, if you cannot accept PayPal or are too young to receive the money, you can choose to donate it elsewhere
  • You can check the recorded stream from the previous tournament to learn more about the scheme
  • The correct scheme must be used, any alteration to the official Cup scheme will result in a void game, and you will need to play again.

Knockout

Deadline: September 26, 2021, 12:00 AM


Final


Bronze Match


Gold

Silver

Bronze





Groups

You have 1 month to play your Group Stage games, there will be no extensions, those who show the most effort will proceed.
Deadline: September 06, 2021, 11:00 PM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Finland Leoric 3 2/4 1
Russian Federation Perdunok 3 2/4 1
Chile Dieego98 3 2/4 1
Germany Sheepworm 3 0 3
Games [6]Notes [2]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
228095 Finland Leoric Germany Sheepworm
2:0
August 17, 2021, 03:40 PM 0
228078 Chile Dieego98 Germany Sheepworm
2:0
August 16, 2021, 06:42 PM 0
228074 Russian Federation Perdunok Germany Sheepworm
2:0
August 15, 2021, 06:47 PM 0
228070 Chile Dieego98 Finland Leoric
2:0
August 15, 2021, 03:53 PM 0
228069 Finland Leoric Russian Federation Perdunok
2:0
August 15, 2021, 03:12 PM 0
228052 Russian Federation Perdunok Chile Dieego98
2:0
August 14, 2021, 09:23 PM 0

[August 15, 2021, 03:54 PM] Chile Dieego98: Hey Sheepworm! When have you got time to play?
[August 21, 2021, 11:41 AM] United Kingdom TheKomodo: Dieego98 beat Leoric 2-1 with 1 draw. Dieego98 beat Perdunok 2-0. Perdunok beat Leoric 2-1. Dieego98 = #1 / Perdunok = #2.
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
United States Mablak dt ea b2b 3 3/6 0
Finland VoK TdC VDV ea 3 2/4 1
Russian Federation SIBASA AQUA 3 1/3 2
Netherlands StJimmy 3 0/1 3
Games [6]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
228300 United States Mablak Netherlands StJimmy
2:0
August 29, 2021, 08:44 PM 0
228163 United States Mablak Finland VoK
2:0
August 21, 2021, 05:45 PM 0
228071 Finland VoK Netherlands StJimmy
2:0
August 15, 2021, 04:40 PM 0
227967 Russian Federation SIBASA Netherlands StJimmy
2:1
August 10, 2021, 08:40 PM 0
227963 United States Mablak Russian Federation SIBASA
2:1
August 09, 2021, 10:13 PM 0
227950 Finland VoK Russian Federation SIBASA
2:0
August 07, 2021, 11:55 AM 0
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Argentina Dario NNN 3 3/6 0
Finland Senator TdC VDV S17 3 2/4 1
Brazil FoxHound cFc WoSC PoC 3 1/3 2
Chile Mustachio 3 0 3
Games [6]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
228302 Brazil FoxHound Chile Mustachio
2:0
August 29, 2021, 10:21 PM 0
228194 Argentina Dario Brazil FoxHound
2:1
August 22, 2021, 11:06 PM 1
228184 Finland Senator Brazil FoxHound
2:0
August 22, 2021, 07:40 PM 1
228075 Argentina Dario Finland Senator
2:0
August 15, 2021, 06:51 PM 0
227960 Finland Senator Chile Mustachio
2:0
August 09, 2021, 08:55 PM 0
227947 Argentina Dario Chile Mustachio
2:0
August 07, 2021, 12:57 AM 0
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Russian Federation Korydex db 3 3/6 0
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Pn ae ZaR 3 2/4 1
Brazil Albus 3 1/3 2
Slovakia hal 3 0/1 3
Games [6]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
228223 Russian Federation Korydex Brazil Albus
2:0
August 24, 2021, 09:32 PM 0
228222 Russian Federation Korydex Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
2:0
August 24, 2021, 07:22 PM 0
228214 Russian Federation Korydex Slovakia hal
2:0
August 23, 2021, 08:32 PM 0
228213 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Slovakia hal
2:1
August 23, 2021, 07:41 PM 0
227946 Brazil Albus Slovakia hal
2:0
August 06, 2021, 10:10 PM 15
227939 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Brazil Albus
2:1
August 06, 2021, 09:09 PM 14
2.5/5

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Offline Albus

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Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2021, 09:59 PM »
I am not prepared to spend my entire life talking about philosophy, cultural differences, hypothetical scenarios and theories, opinions and disagreements because you cannot accept a simple mistake with a consequence we were all responsible for.

There is nothing complex. It's very simple what I ask. Any decision, without exception, that can generate some debate and with potential to frustrate a player (like the one that happened to me and you acknowledged as something that could have caused frustration), listen to the player prior to the decision. It would be possible?

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Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2021, 10:01 PM »
Maybe because Dario didn't make the mistake, you might listen to him and appreciate his words more.

I've always esteemed you. And I've always been closer to you than I was to Dario. Why would I act any different to him? No.

Offline Dario

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2021, 05:53 PM »
We got a 3-way tie in group 1 between Leoric, Perdunok and Diego.
I can think of two options to solve this:

1) Since Perdunok had 1 tied round against Sheepworm, Leoric and Diego performed better and they would advance. The problem with this option is that drawn rounds are traditionally ignored and this mindset may have affected the result. If this option is the one to be applied, all 3 of the tied players (especially Perdunk) should be ok with it. I'd rather not choose this option because it would require to re-evaluate all the other ties of the group stage and check that considering drawn rounds doesn't change the result for anybody else

2) All 3 players (Leoric, Perdunok and Diego) play a bo1, or a new bo3 game, against the other two tied players.  A new set of bo3 games may result in another 3-way tie, so I'd rather choose a bo1. Since in the previous games no caves were played, I'd suggest playing cave if a single round, and playing cave-cave-open or cave-cave-cave if bo3; but it's up to the two players involved in a game to decide what they will do. I'd prefer if you guys played just one cave round against each other to break the tie, but if all 3 of you agree to something different then that should be fine as long as it is reasonable.

Edit: during this tie-break, tied rounds will be considered. Points for each game will be awarded according to the formula:
(won ronds + 0.5*tied rounds) / total rounds. If the single-round option is chosen and it results in a tie, an extra round will be played until someone wins one round.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2021, 06:01 PM by Dario »
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2021, 06:10 PM »
We've decided that Perdunok, Leoric and Dieego98 will all play each other again.

This time though, draws will be effective and counted.

The goal of the Cup is to progress the players who played better during their sets of matches, to lose 2:0 in 3 rounds while achieving a draw is a better performance than a straight up 2:0 loss with 2 rounds played.

Good luck guys!


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Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2021, 08:35 PM »
I'd like to play bo3 games, they aren't that long in this scheme and it gives better chances that the best player wins the match.

Also would like to play on caves (or cco), this is just to have more variety as we haven't played (almost) any caves in the group, but if Perdunok and/or Leoric want to keep the standard ooc it's fine too.

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2021, 12:50 PM »
I think it's fair to replay these games between us. Also bo3. It would be interesting to play in the caves.

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Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2021, 06:00 PM »
Group 1 tie breakers, 2-1 vs Leoric with one draw, 2-0 vs Perdunok

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Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2021, 06:01 PM »
Missing replays:

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2021, 06:50 PM »
I defeated Leoric with a score of 2: 1 in a tie-break.


Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2021, 11:17 PM »
Congratulations to Dieego98 for winning both his tiebreaker games, he will receive the #1 spot in his group.

Congratulations to Perdunok for winning his tiebreaker against Leoric to secure the #2 spot in his group.

Once all the other groups are finished, everyone will be advanced at the same time.

Don't worry, people seem to love 80hp so i'll definitely be hosting more of these in future.  :-*

Leoric & Sheepworm, you guys fought hard, you had some nice moves and ideas! I hope you enjoyed playing and will return again.

Offline Joker23

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2021, 04:12 PM »
To sum up all the things that I saw about this cup here and on discord, it's a cup in which...
a) you must listen to some no-name broadcaster, who isn't even its admin on the cup page, or you are kicked out
b) if you win, without noticing subtle changes (like Albus), because the no-name is not competent enough to host the cup properly, your victory against his friend is erased, and if you happen not to win another time, be sure to hear "Mega`Adnan f*cked you up"
c) If it happens that you lose a match, you are completely not used to the scheme, you give up to play next ones, and you inform about it in a civil way on Discord (like Rafka), insisting to keep your loss against your opponent, be sure to hear:
"You suck at 80hp"
"Adnan owned you"
"You f@#!ing bitch, you moan every time you lose"
"You are a little f@#!ing whiny bitch"
"I will happily remove you from the cup"
"You are banned"
"f@#!ing cancer to this community"
"@Mega`Adnan Good job absolutely destroying this piece of shit
"You are a f@#!ing disgrace"
"absolute f@#!ing monster"
d) the no-name sticks to the rules so much that his inability to count worms costs 1 participant a victory, but yet somehow if your valid match takes place, and you have manners to inform about not playing more of them, the no-name will erase your match against your will, and replace you as a participant with his own clan-mate.
e) You can't explain anything, just don't try to, or else you end up hearing loads of things on what a trash you are in real life.

Sounds like a nice ghetto cup.

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2021, 04:43 PM »
Yeah, I spoke to Rafka with some heated emphasis like that, it wasn't in private though, and I didn't hide behind an alias like what you are doing now.  :D

I won't speak like that here on TUS, though i'd say it to his face in person or in a public Discord channel.

Dario and I are the moderators of this Cup, people are free to leave if they don't like it, we are within our rights to exclude people from future events who cause issues.

This conversation with Rafka is after almost an entire year of his selfish behaviour, though I don't even need to explain the context to an alias account.

Thanks for your concern, have a nice day.  :)

Online TheWalrus

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2021, 05:33 PM »
To sum up all the things that I saw about this cup here and on discord, it's a cup in which...
a) you must listen to some no-name broadcaster, who isn't even its admin on the cup page, or you are kicked out
b) if you win, without noticing subtle changes (like Albus), because the no-name is not competent enough to host the cup properly, your victory against his friend is erased, and if you happen not to win another time, be sure to hear "Mega`Adnan f*cked you up"
c) If it happens that you lose a match, you are completely not used to the scheme, you give up to play next ones, and you inform about it in a civil way on Discord (like Rafka), insisting to keep your loss against your opponent, be sure to hear:
"You suck at 80hp"
"Adnan owned you"
"You f@#!ing bitch, you moan every time you lose"
"You are a little f@#!ing whiny bitch"
"I will happily remove you from the cup"
"You are banned"
"f@#!ing cancer to this community"
"@Mega`Adnan Good job absolutely destroying this piece of shit
"You are a f@#!ing disgrace"
"absolute f@#!ing monster"
d) the no-name sticks to the rules so much that his inability to count worms costs 1 participant a victory, but yet somehow if your valid match takes place, and you have manners to inform about not playing more of them, the no-name will erase your match against your will, and replace you as a participant with his own clan-mate.
e) You can't explain anything, just don't try to, or else you end up hearing loads of things on what a trash you are in real life.

Sounds like a nice ghetto cup.
I lol'ed at all of this, I love burner accounts created to lend more credibility to a narrative. Although komo could be more democratic and charitable in his responses, rafka is an emotional midget.  If he loses, he falls to pieces, his fragile ego can't take any punishment whatsoever.  This is a hard truth he must come to grips with, or alternatively, ignore and continue.  It will certainly cause more problems for him in the future.  You can single out komo all you want, but he certainly isn't pressing his own bias, dario created this cup and wanted people to play with a certain set of rules, which everyone knew when they signed up.

The albus situation is unfortunate, but living to the letter of the law is the course of action over the course of any competition.  The whole situation was unfair to both parties, both adnan and albus, and any decision would have left someone feeling raw about the outcome.  My gut tells me that the original games with adnan and albus should have remained despite the scheme and worm situation, but again, it is not my decision, and I can understand why the games were replayed. 

The element missing here is levity, and understanding the aim of these cups and league games in general is fun and competition.  People should understand that these things sometimes happen and should set aside their personal feelings for the sake of the cup.  Ultimately, there must be moderation and people are not always going to agree with the decisions handed down, but making yourself into a victim and ragequitting is certainly not the answer to any proposition.

Learn to coexist and maintain a level of humility, people.  It will serve you not only here, but in life in general.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2021, 05:34 PM by TheWalrus »

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2021, 05:59 PM »
Just to make one more thing known, I would never maliciously mock anyone for being a beginner. I encourage players of all skill levels and will always give any beginner my time and effort to help them in any way I can.

I'll admit I could have said things with less profanity, though it had a clear purpose to me. Rafka knows he is a good player, I know he's a good player, i've even said this often on live streams. Saying he sucks, calling him a disgrace etc, is literally trash talk, specifically to trigger him, I literally want to make him feel discomfort and annoyed in retalitation to all the frustration he has caused others.

Wouldn't it be nice if people focused on the good things we do as well? :D






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Re: Cup #1123, 80-normal
« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2021, 06:10 PM »
dario created this cup and wanted people to play with a certain set of rules, which everyone knew when they signed up.

In fact, Walrus, I think in terms of what happened to me there was no pre-set rule. It was something very peculiar. An entire game played with 1 worm less, due to the mistake of a third person, and no one has noticed it (Komito, me, Adnan, VoK - who was in the match - and not even Dario who watched the stream).

The whole situation was unfair to both parties, both adnan and albus

In fact, Adnan said he didn't mind the fact that he played with 7 worms. Neither I nor he bothered. We don't think it made the result unfair.



If I could go back in time, I don't think I would have accepted playing that game again, or I wouldn't have played in the same day, so fast. It turns out that everything was very fast. At the moment I just thought about obeying Komito's decision, without questioning.

But this events will serve me as experience and learning. I regret bringing up this discussion after the event. I should have talked before, in private, with Dario and Komito. If I don't agree with the decision, I think it's very wrong, I will leave the competition. Or I will ask for more time to think and mature ideas. It's better than continuing to play the tournament and feeling a taste of injustice. Because, if the person continue like this, sometimes, any later and small details, can be a reason for discussions and misunderstandings (because of something that was not very well resolved in the past).

Dario and Komito's decision (in regards to my game), although I don't agree, I don't think it was absurdly wrong. It is fully justifiable and there are people who agree with that. But I only thought about the decision (whether it was correct or not) after the game (in this case, the defeat). I insist, if me, Dario and Komito had talked better before, I think this wouldn't have happened, as I think we could have reached an agreement (or at worst, I would have left the competition - but I don't think I would). I think it would have been nice if Dario and Komito had consulted me before making the decision. But I also think I should have expressed myself before obeying the decision.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2021, 06:12 PM by Albus »