WxW 2vs2 CuP

Alright let's gooo!

Time for a 2vs2 wxw cup

Open for suggestions for an other scheme. Picked the default wxw scheme now but I'm open for suggestions if most ppl prefer another scheme.

Any scheme without mines & barrels.

ae nice cup

oh wow good idea!
WxW is a cool scheme for 2v2. Also, we should make more 2v2 cups imo!

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 29, 2024, 01:02 AMAny scheme without mines & barrels.

Hmm.. tbh I like barrels and mines in wxw for more variantions.

And in case of evil spawns it's Bo3.

Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 10:43 AMAnd in case of evil spawns it's Bo3.

spawns so it's not telestart?

Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 10:43 AM

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 29, 2024, 01:02 AMAny scheme without mines & barrels.

more variantions.

Luck*

But it is bo3 though..

Quote from: Rocket on October 29, 2024, 12:05 PM

Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 10:43 AMAnd in case of evil spawns it's Bo3.

spawns so it's not telestart?

Oh oops of course it is XD

Nevermind me then haha

Well I made the group phase Bo1 now and finals are bo3.

Quote from: Big Billy on October 29, 2024, 12:46 AMTime for a 2vs2 wxw cup
Open for suggestions for an other scheme.

Hey, nice cup! I'll join a bit later, if I find a partner.
I can offer some of my variations of WxW. At least it could be something new and unusual for many people, like a sip of fresh air.

WxW Shopper
WxW Shopper (1 Crate)
Acrobatic WxW Shopper

They are constantly being tested for more than a year. The balance is quite good, although these schemes contains some of controversial / 'weird' weapons for WxW (cows, machine gun, axe). If any of the schemes are approved in general, it's possible to make some small changes to adapt to more competitive playstyle (mine fuse adjustment, mines a barrels number adjustment etc)... Any reasonable suggestions are welcome.

What's special about these schemes (briefly):

1. As I mentioned before, they contains some kind of 'weird' and unusual weapons for WxW: Cows, HHG, Machine Gun, Axe, Mole. Someone can say it's imbalanced. I can answer: balance can be created not only by banning all types of weapons, which damage is greater than a Sheep has, but also by allowing these types of weapons in a fair proportion. In this system one weapon balances the other. And I find this concept more interesting than the other, where half of the weapons are totally banned.

2. It is worth to mention, that the Mole Bomd and the Petrol Bomb are really good here, unlike the standard league WxW scheme, where Petrol inflicts less damage than Bazooka in the 95% of cases, and there's no Mole at all. Btw, the HostingBuddys scheme has a Mole, but it's completely useless shit there. So I fixed this inequity:
- Petrol Bomb now deals more damage on average than Bazooka (even on flat surface).
- Mole Bomb deals ~54 damage on precise hit, creating a blast wave slightly larger than a dynamite. This weapon is very convenient for knocking worms out from upper hideouts, knocking them down from the ceiling, or simply throwing them over large distances across the map (with LG used). Unique mechanic for usual WxW for sure.

3. There are LG and Freeze, as well-proven and usable things in HostingBuddys schemes.
4. There are different variations of the schemes:
- Usual version, similar as possible to the classic WxW, but with mentioned changes, of course.
- One Crate version, where the only one crate can be on the surface at a time. This version has its own advantages.
- Acrobatic version, where you can attack from air while flying (AFA), or in-between rope swings. This is the part of TestStuff.

I hope, someone will love these schemes, like me and my friends does. I'm open to any reasonable recommendations and feedback. Thanks.

Thanks flash,

I like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?
Tus Scheme vs Flash's Wxw Shopper scheme

If someone has other options may speak now. Could include that to the poll.

Quote from: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PMI like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?

Sure, good idea. If people choose my scheme, I'd like to change the only mine fuse timer from random to 3 sec as usual. Random is fun ofc, but I think that mines must be more predictable in serious competitive games.

Quote from: flashR on November 01, 2024, 03:15 PM

Quote from: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PMI like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?

Sure, good idea. If people choose my scheme, I'd like to change the only mine fuse timer from random to 3 sec as usual. Random is fun ofc, but I think that mines must be more predictable in serious competitive games.

Sounds reasonable.

Here's the poll: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/cups-and-tournaments-general/2vs2-wxw-cup-scheme-poll-37197/

Quote from: Big Billy on October 31, 2024, 08:32 PMThanks flash,

I like your WxW Shopper scheme you put first. How about a little poll for this?
Tus Scheme vs Flash's Wxw Shopper scheme

If someone has other options may speak now. Could include that to the poll.

May I suggest considering bo3 for groups and KO stages, and maybe bo5 for the final? The wxw still has some random factors (e.g., crates positioning, weapons probability, etc.) and bo3 would penalize less those that might face a potential one-shoot bad luck (imo).