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Team17 Experimental Cup

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Name: Team17 Experimental Cup - T17 cup with a new scheme and $30 prize
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Joining required percentage: 50%
Created: October 07, 2015, 02:46 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Team17 balanced
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: October 09, 2015, 12:00 PM

Finished


Description:
This is a Team17 cup with a new scheme edition. The cup has also a little carrot: $30 for the winner (via PayPal) ;)

The cup scheme is a remix of Chicken23's "Balanced T17" scheme. Likewise in Chicken23's scheme, the most weapons have an equal chance of occuring in a crate. See the differences:



Other than that, the scheme is the same as TUS scheme.

Cup details:
- 16 players
- TUS rules
- Use the cup scheme only!
- KO single-elimination
- All games Bo1
- $20 $30 for the winner (Sponsored by VoK, originally by MI/obscure :-[)

Knockout

Deadline: November 15, 2015, 09:00 PM


Final


Bronze Match


Gold

Silver

Bronze





Groups

Deadline: October 25, 2015, 09:00 PM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Poland Chelsea dt pH Kf BoM 4 4 0
Croatia doza 4 2 2
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan BFW ae dS 4 2 2
Chile Lukz TaG ea 3 1 2
Australia Kangaroo BFW pH ae 3 0 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [9]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200145 Poland Chelsea Australia Kangaroo
1:0
November 05, 2015, 10:50 AM 0
199791 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Australia Kangaroo
1:0
October 26, 2015, 10:59 AM 0
199632 Croatia doza Australia Kangaroo
1:0
October 22, 2015, 09:01 AM 0
199536 Croatia doza Chile Lukz
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:53 PM 0
199535 Chile Lukz Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:34 PM 0
199524 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Croatia doza
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:04 PM 0
199336 Poland Chelsea Croatia doza
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:12 PM 0
199333 Poland Chelsea Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0
October 15, 2015, 02:37 PM 0
199235 Poland Chelsea Chile Lukz
1:0
October 12, 2015, 04:14 PM 0

[October 19, 2015, 12:14 PM] Croatia doza: if you see me in AG -> PM
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Netherlands HHC che ea meow VDV 4 4 0
Israel Almog ea 4 3 1
Brazil KungPow WM` 3 1 2
Norway Kradie ZaR 3 0 3
Finland Free dt WAR ea 2 0 2
Games [8]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199473 Netherlands HHC Brazil KungPow
1:0
October 17, 2015, 10:02 PM 0
199463 Israel Almog Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 07:49 PM 0
199460 Israel Almog Brazil KungPow
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:48 PM 0
199454 Netherlands HHC Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199449 Brazil KungPow Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:19 PM 0
199349 Israel Almog Finland Free
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:54 PM 0
199348 Netherlands HHC Finland Free
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199342 Netherlands HHC Israel Almog
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:44 PM 0
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Germany WhiteRqbbit ea 4 3 1
Hungary Csongi dP rM ea 4 2 2
Poland Hussar dP ea 4 2 2
Brazil GreatProfe CKC CWC ae DOS 4 2 2
Bulgaria taner MTY MAF 4 1 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200087 Brazil GreatProfe Poland Hussar
1:0
November 02, 2015, 10:24 PM 0
200052 Germany WhiteRqbbit Brazil GreatProfe
1:0
November 01, 2015, 06:18 PM 0
199760 Hungary Csongi Brazil GreatProfe
1:0
October 25, 2015, 06:26 PM 0
199757 Brazil GreatProfe Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 25, 2015, 04:01 PM 1
5/5
199640 Germany WhiteRqbbit Hungary Csongi
1:0
October 22, 2015, 08:06 PM 0
199639 Poland Hussar Germany WhiteRqbbit
1:0
October 22, 2015, 07:24 PM 0
199509 Poland Hussar Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 18, 2015, 06:55 PM 0
5/5
199490 Germany WhiteRqbbit Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 18, 2015, 03:05 PM 0
5/5
199455 Bulgaria taner Hungary Csongi
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:21 PM 0
199356 Hungary Csongi Poland Hussar
1:0
October 15, 2015, 07:24 PM 0

[October 16, 2015, 11:11 AM] Bulgaria taner: PM me on AG noobs
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Finland VoK TdC VDV 4 3 1
Finland Senator TdC VDV 4 3 1
Italy Sbaffo dt 420 4 2 2
Ukraine Lancelot RS tS pH 4 1 3
Ukraine Asbest 4 1 3
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199635 Italy Sbaffo Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 22, 2015, 12:28 PM 0
5/5
199525 Finland Senator Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:09 PM 0
5/5
199489 Finland VoK Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 18, 2015, 02:32 PM 0
5/5
199488 Finland VoK Italy Sbaffo
1:0
October 18, 2015, 01:57 PM 0
199403 Ukraine Asbest Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 16, 2015, 05:27 PM 0
199396 Italy Sbaffo Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 16, 2015, 01:15 PM 0
199350 Ukraine Lancelot Finland VoK
1:0
October 15, 2015, 06:01 PM 0
199343 Finland Senator Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:08 PM 0
199303 Finland VoK Finland Senator
1:0
October 14, 2015, 03:03 PM 0
199249 Finland Senator Italy Sbaffo
1:0
October 12, 2015, 07:45 PM 0

[October 15, 2015, 03:48 PM] Ukraine Lancelot: i will bw in #AG 15-20:00 GMT time

Author Topic: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup  (Read 16276 times)

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Offline Free

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2015, 05:27 PM »
1 kamikaze would be a needed addition to the scheme.

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2015, 05:40 PM »
Yeah. kami would be good !

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2015, 06:08 PM »
Sticked to 16 players. Those who were excluded haven't played T17 in tus/trl or had the lowest rating.

GL HF

Group stage deadline is Sunday 2015-10-25 (2 weeks).

Group 4: host, sponsor, mafioso :D
« Last Edit: October 11, 2015, 06:22 PM by Senator »

Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2015, 06:30 PM »
This is unfair, I was looking forward to participate.
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Offline Chicken23

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2015, 06:45 PM »
i'm famous

Offline Chicken23

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2015, 06:49 PM »
With so many handguns/bats/crap weaps in it's hardly possible to do any serious harm before SD. And with the low TUS scores on SD weaps.. it's likely you end up with many drawn games.  :-[
I can see this only working with more time on the clock tbh.

That's what I said about Chicken23's scheme

I guess there is a reason for the current crate probabilities. In your scheme probability for powerful non-SD weapons is lower so it's more difficult to kill the opponent with non-SD weapons. That means games will be more often SD weapon battles than before, or?

Wasn't water rise also slower when all weapons had the same probability? You had then more time to kill the opponent with non-SD weapons than in TUS scheme.

I think the greater number of shitty weapons doesn't affect that much after all. But we'll see about that :P

How many early kills do u see with the TUS "boom boom" scheme anyway? A worm gets attacked once by a big bomb and then it's moved to a cover. No TUS game ends before SD and usually u have at least 3 worms left heading to SD.

I disagree and believe the scheme to be the best edit so far after the global acceptance that old t17 channel and FB schemes (of all equal chances with couple of edits) creates too many sd weapons.

This goes back to original t17 schemes but with some slight changes to the sd weapons. You still get plenty of powerful weapons to make damage to a worm for more than 60+, but you also have to learn to deal with the cr8 of getting the shitty weapons.

tus t17 is the worst t17 scheme in the history of wa.

Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2015, 08:06 PM »
So in other words, I am not deemed worthy to participate in this cup because I have no official rating?  Because I when I first signed up for this cup I failed to see a minimum requirement to partake. Besides I was way before 16 too.

 I'm just a player of this community along with those who got removed, that only wanted to play. Where is the equality in all of this, Senator? Why couldn't the rest play? Because we lacked points and status?

The groups that are paired are obviously paired by clans and it feels very bias.
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Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2015, 08:52 PM »
So in other words, I am not deemed worthy to participate in this cup because I have no official rating?  Because I when I first signed up for this cup I failed to see a minimum requirement to partake. Besides I was way before 16 too.

 I'm just a player of this community along with those who got removed, that only wanted to play. Where is the equality in all of this, Senator? Why couldn't the rest play? Because we lacked points and status?

The groups that are paired are obviously paired by clans and it feels very bias.

I wanted 4 players groups (16 players) and we got 19 players so I had to cut off some players. This is "experimental cup" so I wanted players who have a lot of experience of T17 to participate, that's why it was appropriate to choose players based on T17 experience/rating. This is just one cup among others.. you have chance to participate in many upcoming cups :)

If the groups were paired by clans, then Sbaffo, Free and Chelsea should be in the same group, right? Afaik I clicked pair by totally random :-X
« Last Edit: October 11, 2015, 09:55 PM by Senator »

Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2015, 10:09 PM »
So in other words, I am not deemed worthy to participate in this cup because I have no official rating?  Because I when I first signed up for this cup I failed to see a minimum requirement to partake. Besides I was way before 16 too.

 I'm just a player of this community along with those who got removed, that only wanted to play. Where is the equality in all of this, Senator? Why couldn't the rest play? Because we lacked points and status?

The groups that are paired are obviously paired by clans and it feels very bias.

I wanted 4 players groups (16 players) and we got 19 players so I had to cut off some players. This is "experimental cup" so I wanted players who have a lot of experience of T17 to participate, that's why it was appropriate to choose players based on T17 experience/rating. This is just one cup among others.. you have chance to participate in many upcoming cups :)

If the groups were paired by clans, then Sbaffo, Free and Chelsea should be in the same group, right? Afaik I clicked pair by totally random :-X

So I am not ''experienced'' because I am not ranked on tus? While I don't have my ranks documented here, I am experienced with Team17, and that is why I decided to sign up for this cup.

You say that this is ''Experimental cup'' and only ''experienced'' players may partake, why would a price be involved in an experiment?  Besides, look how you promote your cup ''T17 cup with a new scheme and $30 prize''

You could have left your desired cup details in the cup.  Instead of leading people on.
Or have it closed and then browse for players with ''Experience'' and invite them.

« Last Edit: October 11, 2015, 10:24 PM by Kradie »
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Offline spleen17

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2015, 10:30 PM »
Senator, you could just have set the cup to auto-close at 16... It is not fair to pick and choose who plays in a public cup.

Really lame, dude.

Offline Kangaroo

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2015, 07:20 AM »
Hey everyone in My group.. I can only play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends...

Please send me a time thats good for you within these hours and I will be there...

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I can play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends...

Offline Sbaffo

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2015, 07:36 AM »
Does it mean i am experienced? Huehuehue

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2015, 07:55 AM »
@Kradie

I had no idea how experienced u are. Tus stats are pretty much the only source out there and u hadn't any stats. That indicates u haven't played the tus scheme version much.

A prize is involved because obviously not many would be interested in pure scheme testing. At the same time I wanted a high level competition, which wouldn't be possible without a prize.

I thought about closed signups and at first I had "players will be chosen based on T17 ratings" written in the cup details. But then I realized we might not get enough players that way :-[

@spleen17

Imo it's totally fine to have signups open for some days and then choose players based on objective measures (rating/played games). It would be stupid to just give the spots to those who surf on TUS sites several times per day. This arrangement indeed was fair because it gave everyone a chance, not just for the most active members. I could have selected players by random instead but obviously I didn't want to exclude the best t17 players.

Offline Korydex

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2015, 08:07 AM »
del
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 05:19 PM by Korydex »

Offline spleen17

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2015, 10:32 AM »

Imo it's totally fine to have signups open for some days and then choose players based on objective measures (rating/played games). It would be stupid to just give the spots to those who surf on TUS sites several times per day. This arrangement indeed was fair because it gave everyone a chance, not just for the most active members. I could have selected players by random instead but obviously I didn't want to exclude the best t17 players.

You didn;t have to exclude anyone, you could have just waited for 1 more and started with 20. You would still have got the feedback you wanted on the scheme.

It just seems like elitism. You are one of those who is always moaning about the drop in activity... how do you expect new players to start playing if they just get discarded from cups and such? It's a shame to see imo.