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Name: Team17 Experimental Cup - T17 cup with a new scheme and $30 prize
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Joining required percentage: 50%
Created: October 07, 2015, 02:46 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Team17 balanced
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: October 09, 2015, 12:00 PM

Finished


Description:
This is a Team17 cup with a new scheme edition. The cup has also a little carrot: $30 for the winner (via PayPal) ;)

The cup scheme is a remix of Chicken23's "Balanced T17" scheme. Likewise in Chicken23's scheme, the most weapons have an equal chance of occuring in a crate. See the differences:



Other than that, the scheme is the same as TUS scheme.

Cup details:
- 16 players
- TUS rules
- Use the cup scheme only!
- KO single-elimination
- All games Bo1
- $20 $30 for the winner (Sponsored by VoK, originally by MI/obscure :-[)

Knockout

Deadline: November 15, 2015, 09:00 PM


Final


Bronze Match

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

Gold

Silver

Bronze

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

VoK Finland
TdCVDVea

Groups

Deadline: October 25, 2015, 09:00 PM

Group 1

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Poland Chelsea
dtpHKfBoM
4 4 0 #1
Croatia doza
4 2 2
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
BFWaedS
4 2 2 #2
Chile Lukz
TaGea
3 1 2
Australia Kangaroo
BFWpHae
3 0 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [9]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200145
1:0
November 05, 2015, 10:50 AM 0
199791
1:0
October 26, 2015, 10:59 AM 0
199632
1:0
October 22, 2015, 09:01 AM 0
199536
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:53 PM 0
199535
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:34 PM 0
199524
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:04 PM 0
199336
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:12 PM 0
199333
1:0
October 15, 2015, 02:37 PM 0
199235
1:0
October 12, 2015, 04:14 PM 0

[October 19, 2015, 12:14 PM] : if you see me in AG -> PM

Group 2

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Netherlands HHC
cheeameowVDV
4 4 0 #1
Israel Almog
ea
4 3 1 #2
Brazil KungPow
WM`
3 1 2
Norway Kradie
ZaR
3 0 3
Finland Free
dtWARea
2 0 2
Games [8]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199473
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 17, 2015, 10:02 PM 0
199463
1:0
October 17, 2015, 07:49 PM 0
199460
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:48 PM 0
199454
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199449
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:19 PM 0
199349
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:54 PM 0
199348
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199342
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:44 PM 0

Group 3

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Germany WhiteRqbbit
ea
4 3 1 #1
Hungary Csongi
dPrMea
4 2 2 #2
Poland Hussar
dPea
4 2 2
Brazil GreatProfe
CKCCWCaeDOS
4 2 2
Bulgaria taner 4 1 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200087
1:0
November 02, 2015, 10:24 PM 0
200052
1:0
November 01, 2015, 06:18 PM 0
199760
1:0
October 25, 2015, 06:26 PM 0
199757
1:0
October 25, 2015, 04:01 PM 1
5/5
199640
1:0
October 22, 2015, 08:06 PM 0
199639
1:0
October 22, 2015, 07:24 PM 0
199509
1:0
October 18, 2015, 06:55 PM 0
5/5
199490
1:0
October 18, 2015, 03:05 PM 0
5/5
199455
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:21 PM 0
199356
1:0
October 15, 2015, 07:24 PM 0

[October 16, 2015, 11:11 AM] : PM me on AG noobs

Group 4

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Finland VoK
TdCVDV
4 3 1 #1
Finland Senator
TdCVDV
4 3 1 #2
Italy Sbaffo 4 2 2
Ukraine Lancelot
RStSpH
4 1 3
Ukraine Asbest
4 1 3
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199635
1:0
October 22, 2015, 12:28 PM 0
5/5
199525
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:09 PM 0
5/5
199489
Finland VoK

1:0
October 18, 2015, 02:32 PM 0
5/5
199488
Finland VoK

1:0
October 18, 2015, 01:57 PM 0
199403
1:0
October 16, 2015, 05:27 PM 0
199396
1:0
October 16, 2015, 01:15 PM 0
199350
Finland VoK

1:0
October 15, 2015, 06:01 PM 0
199343
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:08 PM 0
199303
Finland VoK

1:0
October 14, 2015, 03:03 PM 0
199249
1:0
October 12, 2015, 07:45 PM 0

[October 15, 2015, 03:48 PM] : i will bw in #AG 15-20:00 GMT time

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GreatProfe

Quote from: Hussar on November 01, 2015, 08:40 PM
GretProfe....... i work from 7 gmt till 15 gmt.. so just choose time.

Berria, I'll be online startin from 20 GMT, see you there!

Quote from: Senator on November 01, 2015, 06:56 PM

Hopefully u and Hussar play the last game because it's decisive between Hussar and Csongi.

"Balanced" stands for equal crate probabilities (except for a few weaps), not for equal weapons for both players :P And this cup scheme is not exactly Tom's scheme but very close to it.

Mind tell why u feel the tus scheme is better? Because both get only good weaps so less luck? This comes to dealing with poor weaps (either use the "poor" weaps better or use girders instead).

You quoted well when said "TUS scheme is better because both good weaps". That's what I felt comparated to your scheme. Imo, there's no problem if scheme gives you and opponent a HHG. Shall win the one who use the HHG "better".

Your scheme gives mortars, mole bomb, bat... in the same probabilty of dyna, granny, etc. Those weapons cant be in the same group of the main weapons. You're adding luck in the game when player A collect flame (120 damage) and player B collect mole (15 damage) and well, that's not the point what you're targetting, isnt it?

TUS scheme offers few ratio (0,6%) for awful weapons and this is correct. Obviouslly the scheme has problems but it seems like the best one so far.

Hussar

In what day profe? i cant play in tuesday coz EAC. You said hour but not a day.

GreatProfe

sorry, I was meaning today (holyday in Brazil), I'm in ag, call me there when you get ready

Chicken23

Quote from: GreatProfe on November 02, 2015, 06:27 PM
Quote from: Hussar on November 01, 2015, 08:40 PM
GretProfe....... i work from 7 gmt till 15 gmt.. so just choose time.

Berria, I'll be online startin from 20 GMT, see you there!

Quote from: Senator on November 01, 2015, 06:56 PM

Hopefully u and Hussar play the last game because it's decisive between Hussar and Csongi.

"Balanced" stands for equal crate probabilities (except for a few weaps), not for equal weapons for both players :P And this cup scheme is not exactly Tom's scheme but very close to it.

Mind tell why u feel the tus scheme is better? Because both get only good weaps so less luck? This comes to dealing with poor weaps (either use the "poor" weaps better or use girders instead).

You quoted well when said "TUS scheme is better because both good weaps". That's what I felt comparated to your scheme. Imo, there's no problem if scheme gives you and opponent a HHG. Shall win the one who use the HHG "better".

Your scheme gives mortars, mole bomb, bat... in the same probabilty of dyna, granny, etc. Those weapons cant be in the same group of the main weapons. You're adding luck in the game when player A collect flame (120 damage) and player B collect mole (15 damage) and well, that's not the point what you're targetting, isnt it?

TUS scheme offers few ratio (0,6%) for awful weapons and this is correct. Obviouslly the scheme has problems but it seems like the best one so far.

I totally disagree. Your points are the exact problem with TUS scheme. It just becomes blast wars, you may as well play full wormage lol.

This scheme gives equal chances so you learn to play well with bad weapons. Its possible to over 80 damage with a mortor and plop worms with bat. Molebomb is great in sd when it can dig through griders and cause enough damage to finish off a low powered worm once its health has gone down after the nuke.

This schemes bring T17 back to its originals of learning to play aggressive or defensive based on the luck of the cr8s and generates better skilled T17 players as you have to learn all the weapons and not just rely on powerful weapons and lightside aggressive games.

Sometimes i wish Uber was still active to back me up as he was a very well respect t17er who had the same philosophsy as me in this scheme!

GreatProfe

I understand your viewpoint but times change and T17 as I have played since 5 years ago is all about having a good usage of weapons you collect, have territorial domain and kill your opponent faster as possible because when SD comes, water gives a new game perspective.

The experimental scheme, for me, is boring and luck-based. Mortar and mole arent good weapons for a battle at all. They should be banned of the scheme, also suicide bomb and the revolver too. That's my viewpoint. Anyway, I'm always open for changes that increase motion and fun for the game :)

Senator

Ok time to start KO stage. We had ties in groups 1 and 3 so head to head results decided. Mega'Adnan advanced because he beat doza and Csongi advanced because he beat both Hussar and GreatProfe.

Quarterfinals deadline: Sunday 2015-11-15

Quote from: GreatProfe on November 02, 2015, 08:19 PM
The experimental scheme, for me, is boring and luck-based. Mortar and mole arent good weapons for a battle at all. They should be banned of the scheme, also suicide bomb and the revolver too. That's my viewpoint.

But this is not Shopper where u need to attack each turn. If u get some moles while the opponent gets holys, it doesn't decide the game. You just need to play differently. For me those crap weapons add variation and make the game more interesting because u can't play each time the same way. Btw, suicide bomb is a "super weapon" and its crate probability cannot be changed :P

Senator

WhiteRqbbit, when can u play? This Sunday 19 gmt?

Chelsea

Quote[12.11.2015 15:33:51] dt-Chelsea> yooo 
[12.11.2015 16:14:21] dt-Chelsea> u here ? 
[12.11.2015 16:14:34] to #AnythingGoes:  csongi-> playing cs 
[12.11.2015 16:14:46] dt-Chelsea> we have to play t17 cup final  :P
[12.11.2015 16:14:58] to #AnythingGoes:  csongi-> maybe later, g2g soon 

:(

Csongi

wtf is the purpose of that post? ..
"Every day I get up and look through the Forbes list of the richest people in America. If I'm not there, I go to work." - Robert Orben

[avirex`mm] ill rape ur mother
[avirex`mm] twice in the same night
[avirex`mm] and she will ask for a third
[avirex`mm] cuz she's a whore

kins> Don't let girls ruins ur tus games :)


Chelsea

#69
Can you play tomorow 15:30 gmt or later?

I cant xD

Csongi

"Every day I get up and look through the Forbes list of the richest people in America. If I'm not there, I go to work." - Robert Orben

[avirex`mm] ill rape ur mother
[avirex`mm] twice in the same night
[avirex`mm] and she will ask for a third
[avirex`mm] cuz she's a whore

kins> Don't let girls ruins ur tus games :)


Chelsea

#71

Senator

#72
"The legendary lucker" won the cup.. something must be wrong in the scheme ;D

Congrats! The prize money will be transferred asap. And ty everyone for participating. Feel free to criticize the scheme!

HHC

 ;D

Congrats chelsea.

Good cup, moar please.