Albus mentioned that he broke the special weapon rule, so he should lose that round.

I've came to check these replays however only one replay is here, the other one seems corrupt?

What happened to the other replay?

Quote from: Komito on August 08, 2021, 10:03 PM
Albus mentioned that he broke the special weapon rule, so he should lose that round.

I've came to check these replays however only one replay is here, the other one seems corrupt?

What happened to the other replay?

Corrupt? Weird. It was the first round. I attached here. See at 8:33.

Please also attach the second round. There was something wrong with the replay.

I've asked Dario to handle this situation, he created the scheme and the rules for events which happen during the match for the 80hp scheme.

He replied in a different thread so i'll quote that here as it seems to be his decision:

Quote from: Dario on August 09, 2021, 04:05 AM
I guess that the aqua sheep round is fine as long as Hal accepts it.

I will send hal a private message, so he can come here and make a decision based on Darios suggestion.

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Also, what MonkeyIsland said.

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on August 09, 2021, 06:07 AM
Please also attach the second round. There was something wrong with the replay.

Here is also giving error. I can't open the replay. This never happened before. Let's ask Hal to send the replay through here.

What do we do if the replay hal provides is corrupt as well?

This would mean nobody has evidence of the other match, so how can we accept this? I guess we would just rely on the players to confirm?

Quote from: Komito on August 09, 2021, 11:24 AM
What do we do if the replay hal provides is corrupt as well?

This would mean nobody has evidence of the other match, so how can we accept this? I guess we would just rely on the players to confirm?

Maybe the replay file in hal computer is fine. Let's wait for him. Very weird that, because first round replay is fine, but second corrupt.

Was that game played on a custom terrain? Could be that it isn't corrupt but that Komito doesn't have the module to load the terrain as it should.
Then again I'm only guessing because I believe @nizikawa already fixed that issue by turning the map into an image for replays when people don't have the module.

I hope they aren't using custom terrains.

I'm 50/50 for custom terrains, on one hand they are beautiful, creative and great for funners.

However for leagues and especially for Intermediate type scheme studying the land, objects etc is part of the skill and strategy, just like memorizing pixel perfect dynahats and other moves. Studying how animals walk and jump, worms slide, weapons bounce etc is a very important part of the game.

I don't think they should be using custom terrains that are not standard with the game as not everyone will either have or want to use wormkit and it's simply not fair.

Quote from: Komito on August 09, 2021, 03:29 PM
I hope they aren't using custom terrains.

I'm 50/50 for custom terrains, on one hand they are beautiful, creative and great for funners.

However for leagues and especially for Intermediate type scheme studying the land, objects etc is part of the skill and strategy, just like memorizing pixel perfect dynahats and other moves. Studying how animals walk and jump, worms slide, weapons bounce etc is a very important part of the game.

I don't think they should be using custom terrains that are not standard with the game as not everyone will either have or want to use wormkit and it's simply not fair.

Oh, that was the reason. It was a custom terrain. I forgot I had wkterrainsync installed. I asked if he want change but he said it was ok.

To be honest, i'll let Dario handle if custom terrains are allowed or not.

I mean, terrain/object learning is also related to custom terrains. wkTerrainSync doesn't mess with the way the vanilla game generates the terrains, so it's just an addition. It's like saying people shouldn't play DLC characters in fighting games because learning the matchups of the original roster is important.

I can understand how this could be a problem for a tournament or cup more than league games that already use these however. This is all in assumption that the corrupted file is because of wkTS and nothing else. Still all that can be circumvented by turning the map into an image file after generating it normally. I think it's perfectly fine if you have a gentleman's agreement to play on a custom terrain as long as you make it a .png to avoid this possible scenario unless it's specifically stated that you can't do it on the cup/tourney/league rules.

I believe Deadcode can fix the replay. But I suggest converting map to image to avoid such situation, if mods will allow to play it anyway

I think they're using wkTerrainSync.dll module. That's why you guys can't play that replay without that module.
You can get that module from nizikawa guy.
This is the link.

Hey, yeah we played that second game with a custom terrain, Albus asked me if I was OK with it and I didn't even think that it could break the replay, sorry about that.