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Game #227946, reported by Albus, Viewed 1112 Time(s)

80-normal
Group 4
August 06, 2021, 10:10 PM
Winner
Albus
Brazil
Gained 5 points
Loser
hal
Slovakia
Lost 5 points
  

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Players history
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Information Cup name: : #1123: 80-normal
Cup scheme(s):
80 HP tournament special

Game Result: 2:0
Watch The Game Replay(s):
Downloaded 192 time(s).
Game Map(s)

Random generated map by the game.
1920 x 696, LEV, 0.04 KB, Downloaded 2 time(s)

Game Chat(s)
[Hal] glhf
[Hal] dang
[Hal] noticed those two too late haha
[Albus] hahah
[Hal] f@#!
[Hal] hm
[Hal] welp
[Albus] gg
[Hal] gg

[Hal] glhf
[Hal] dang
[Hal] noticed those two too late haha
[Albus] hahah
[Hal] f@#!
[Hal] hm
[Hal] welp
[Albus] gg
[Hal] gg

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Offline TheKomodo

Game #227946, reported by Albus
« on: August 08, 2021, 10:03 PM »
Albus mentioned that he broke the special weapon rule, so he should lose that round.

I've came to check these replays however only one replay is here, the other one seems corrupt?

What happened to the other replay?

Offline Albus

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Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2021, 10:13 PM »
Albus mentioned that he broke the special weapon rule, so he should lose that round.

I've came to check these replays however only one replay is here, the other one seems corrupt?

What happened to the other replay?

Corrupt? Weird. It was the first round. I attached here. See at 8:33.

« Last Edit: August 08, 2021, 10:16 PM by Albus »

Offline MonkeyIsland

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2021, 06:07 AM »
Please also attach the second round. There was something wrong with the replay.
Due to massive misunderstandings: MonkeyIsland refers to an island not a monkey. I would be a monkey, if my name was IslandMonkey meaning a monkey who is or lives on an island. MonkeyIsland is an island which is related to monkeys. Also there's been a legend around saying MonkeyIsland is a game. So please, think of me as an island or a game.

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2021, 06:18 AM »
I've asked Dario to handle this situation, he created the scheme and the rules for events which happen during the match for the 80hp scheme.

He replied in a different thread so i'll quote that here as it seems to be his decision:

I guess that the aqua sheep round is fine as long as Hal accepts it.

I will send hal a private message, so he can come here and make a decision based on Darios suggestion.



Also, what MonkeyIsland said.

Offline Albus

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Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2021, 10:35 AM »
Please also attach the second round. There was something wrong with the replay.

Here is also giving error. I can't open the replay. This never happened before. Let's ask Hal to send the replay through here.

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 11:24 AM »
What do we do if the replay hal provides is corrupt as well?

This would mean nobody has evidence of the other match, so how can we accept this? I guess we would just rely on the players to confirm?


Offline Albus

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Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2021, 11:35 AM »
What do we do if the replay hal provides is corrupt as well?

This would mean nobody has evidence of the other match, so how can we accept this? I guess we would just rely on the players to confirm?

Maybe the replay file in hal computer is fine. Let's wait for him. Very weird that, because first round replay is fine, but second corrupt.

Offline Mustachio

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2021, 03:16 PM »
Was that game played on a custom terrain? Could be that it isn't corrupt but that Komito doesn't have the module to load the terrain as it should.
Then again I'm only guessing because I believe @nizikawa already fixed that issue by turning the map into an image for replays when people don't have the module.

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2021, 03:29 PM »
I hope they aren't using custom terrains.

I'm 50/50 for custom terrains, on one hand they are beautiful, creative and great for funners.

However for leagues and especially for Intermediate type scheme studying the land, objects etc is part of the skill and strategy, just like memorizing pixel perfect dynahats and other moves. Studying how animals walk and jump, worms slide, weapons bounce etc is a very important part of the game.

I don't think they should be using custom terrains that are not standard with the game as not everyone will either have or want to use wormkit and it's simply not fair.

Offline Albus

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Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2021, 04:06 PM »
I hope they aren't using custom terrains.

I'm 50/50 for custom terrains, on one hand they are beautiful, creative and great for funners.

However for leagues and especially for Intermediate type scheme studying the land, objects etc is part of the skill and strategy, just like memorizing pixel perfect dynahats and other moves. Studying how animals walk and jump, worms slide, weapons bounce etc is a very important part of the game.

I don't think they should be using custom terrains that are not standard with the game as not everyone will either have or want to use wormkit and it's simply not fair.

Oh, that was the reason. It was a custom terrain. I forgot I had wkterrainsync installed. I asked if he want change but he said it was ok.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2021, 05:28 PM by Albus »

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2021, 04:22 PM »
To be honest, i'll let Dario handle if custom terrains are allowed or not.

Offline Mustachio

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2021, 04:34 PM »
I mean, terrain/object learning is also related to custom terrains. wkTerrainSync doesn't mess with the way the vanilla game generates the terrains, so it's just an addition. It's like saying people shouldn't play DLC characters in fighting games because learning the matchups of the original roster is important.

I can understand how this could be a problem for a tournament or cup more than league games that already use these however. This is all in assumption that the corrupted file is because of wkTS and nothing else. Still all that can be circumvented by turning the map into an image file after generating it normally. I think it's perfectly fine if you have a gentleman's agreement to play on a custom terrain as long as you make it a .png to avoid this possible scenario unless it's specifically stated that you can't do it on the cup/tourney/league rules.

Offline Korydex

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2021, 05:16 PM »
I believe Deadcode can fix the replay. But I suggest converting map to image to avoid such situation, if mods will allow to play it anyway

Offline Mega`Adnan

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2021, 05:47 PM »
I think they're using wkTerrainSync.dll module. That's why you guys can't play that replay without that module.
You can get that module from nizikawa guy.
This is the link.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2021, 06:05 PM by Mega`Adnan »



Adnan, you are Mega, not Micro and not even faint  :D So fight till the end please.

Offline hal

Re: Game #227946, reported by Albus
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2021, 09:21 PM »
Hey, yeah we played that second game with a custom terrain, Albus asked me if I was OK with it and I didn't even think that it could break the replay, sorry about that.