Does Anyone Remember This Scheme - Genius haha :D
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 15, 2016, 10:50 AM
Does Anyone Remember This Scheme - Genius haha :D
Hmm, I remember it in my previous life. :P
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 15, 2016, 10:50 AM
Does Anyone Remember This Scheme - Genius haha :D
True xD
YES
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 15, 2016, 10:50 AM
Does Anyone Remember This Scheme - Genius haha :D
pfffffffffffffffffffaaanahaahahahahhahahaha :D
Glad to amuse you ;D
I didn't play loooong time but hope that i have some skills ;]
Piki, get here too :)
Eyy, would love to man :)
Just not sure whether I can play. Gonna be hard to arrange and in 2 weeks time Ill definitely not have acces to WA nemore
Will sign up tho see how it goes lets have some fun with this cup :)
plan is 16 at least, will put quite long deadlines i think.
Perfect haha :)
Can see 20 happening, sent pecet pm, will have contact with letk triad said maybe, missing Alien n a couple more dS guys though. Whatsup with Sniper :D if that was his nick lol
Umm, what happened to the idea we had Hurz?? Was much better than this...
dst cup? next one, wanna have that well planned.
@piki sniper disappeared, once he left message to be back but that was only thing :D then disappeared again.
i guess his wife threw away his game or smth ;)
Any chance of picker bo5 instead of set maps? More interesting imo
we can talk bout rules dS internally until cup starts, sure.
Ok, thanks for hosting btw :)
t komo
Quote from: spleen17 on July 17, 2016, 10:37 PM
Any chance of picker bo5 instead of set maps? More interesting imo
Picker sucks for Tournaments/Cups, even more so that everyone is out of practise, what makes Darts great(In these events) is being able to practise a set of maps and actually seeing real competition, instead of complete noobs every f**king game because of random maps you haven't played for like a year. You would be better off playing Comet Dodgin mate.
Also, if we use picker, there is no point playing if you aren't an experienced Darter lol.
Picker is great for practise/dS Tours, but not these imo.
@Hurz - Could you maybe change Gildarts though, the start there sucks, bit far from the part you need to connect and people end up plopping.
Also, i'll host the dST Cup myself when this finishes :)
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 18, 2016, 06:19 AM
@Hurz - Could you maybe change Gildarts though, the start there sucks, bit far from the part you need to connect and people end up plopping.
Gildarts is best map among these. Wtf are you saying dude haha :)
Why ppl still play on Prince map tho? It's one of the ugliest shit I've seen on wa.
Hes just pointing out that its the trickiest/riskiest map when it comes to actually attaching to the hand left. And he got a point there you can not argue that its not true lol.
Id not want it to change but perhapd a special version with an anti plop zone could be made for the cup? Just an idea because it really is a sweet map
for Prince map no idea I dont like it either but its not "the ugliest shit" *points to titamaps* jk man dont take it too seriously
Please group 1: me,adnan,xan,husk xD
Not everyone has time to practice 5 maps though.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 18, 2016, 11:18 AM
Not everyone has time to practice 5 maps though.
There isn't one person here who doesn't have time to practise, you are all pretty active and can choose to spend the time if you want, if you have time to play WA, you have time to practise for a Cup.
Say what you want but Darts Tournaments/Cups(On TuS) are always more successful when there are set maps instead of picker, at least statistically. From what I remember, there were always complaints when picker was used because people didn't know rules for that specific map, or they just sucked so much it ruined the fun.
I understand you like picker better mate, but please look at the bigger picture and what's better for everyone, including noobs.
@Piki, sure an edited version would be good but would have to make sure everyone downloads it, it is a nice map, I still feel it'd be less complicated to simply replace it though.
Awesome, 20 players :D Are we going for 24? 32? :D
I certainly do not have time to practice but Im not complaining either I seriously dont care lets just dart lol :)
And yah its true @map, but Hurz is the one to decide neway in the end.
Invite Sensei Kins Alien and San and we can go with 24 :)
Mb krivoy, Marko (if active), maybe Kayz if hes alive, Rabbit, Hollow if possible.. cant see more than 24 happening though tbh
Edit: Krivoy already in sorry, also wheres SiD? oO darts cup without him? And sup with Mei? Anybody still having contact with him? Mb some other peeps I forgot
Quote from: piki1802 on July 18, 2016, 01:07 PM
I certainly do not have time to practice
Unless you are going to die soon, or someone has a gun to your head and telling you not to practise, yes, you have time to practise, you are in control of your life, you decide what you can and can't do.
What you mean to say is, it isn't a high enough priority for you, totally different thing from not having time.
No. Not having a laptop or pc atm. Thats what I meant ;D
Quote from: piki1802 on July 18, 2016, 01:15 PM
No. Not having a laptop or pc atm. Thats what I meant ;D
LOL, ok, screw practise, how will you compete :D
P.S. Nice to see Dennis back :D
Will try to lend laptop for a week in 2 days or so, then Ill have time to practise but then I wonr prioritise WA lol hehe
And yah nice to see ya back Den :)
Im still mising some peeps tho hehe
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 18, 2016, 01:13 PM
Quote from: piki1802 on July 18, 2016, 01:07 PM
I certainly do not have time to practice
Unless you are going to die soon, or someone has a gun to your head and telling you not to practise, yes, you have time to practise, you are in control of your life, you decide what you can and can't do.
What you mean to say is, it isn't a high enough priority for you, totally different thing from not having time.
Well that's the point, it should be skill competition, not seeing who has the most free time / who can make it their highest priority.
You are looking at it backwards, it would benefit the 'noobs' more to use picker, seeing as everyone is out of practice anyway. Better for both players to go in cold.
It's one of the reasons darts started to die out imo, it became more of a memory test than an actual game. But, it's Hurz's cup, he can decide. :)
Quote from: spleen17 on July 18, 2016, 01:30 PM
Well that's the point, it should be skill competition, not seeing who has the most free time / who can make it their highest priority.
Do you not even have the slightest idea how ridiculous that sounds?
Take a look at all professional sports, and games, what do they all have in common to be the best? They practise like their lifes depend on it, and not only do they become successful, it makes it more interesting to watch and be a part of seeing people compete at their peak.
Using picker is like if the next World Cup was played using a Rugby Ball without any notice instead of a Football, it's completely random and unprepared, the fans would be f**king bored, the players would be rubbish lol.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 18, 2016, 01:30 PM
You are looking at it backwards, it would benefit the 'noobs' more to use picker, seeing as everyone is out of practice anyway. Better for both players to go in cold.
I'm looking at it backwards? LMAO, i'm almost in tears laughing at how stupid this sounds, thanks for that :D
Both players go in cold, look like noobs, get crappy scores, the luckier player wins, OR! Practise a bit so you can have a proper game with better scores and more impressive gameplay, not to mention more confidence and satisfaction from doing good!
People are out of practise but it's still like riding a bike, guys like me and Marian, Hurz, Triad and yourself will have a MUCH MUCH higher chance of winning than people who don't even know how to play maps, we still roughly know the swing, they don't, how can you not even know this it's insane lol.
It's a competition, not a f**king nursery.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 18, 2016, 01:30 PM
It's one of the reasons darts started to die out imo, it became more of a memory test than an actual game. But, it's Hurz's cup, he can decide. :)
No, Darts started to die because people f**ked it up with stupid requests and wanting things to be too easy/luck based, that, along with the temptation to play more popular schemes instead, plus I quit to do music and you guys didn't care or try to host stuff yourselves.
Everything about this game requires memory, what an irrelevant point...
Shouldn't we replace Pr1nce 01 maybe? Just sayin...
I'm really not interested in arguing with you Komo, sorry. I was giving an opinion, but as always you are completely dismissive of anyone's views besides your own, without even trying to understand where they are coming from.
You say you quit dS to work on music? Go do it then, stop getting involved in 10-page arguments on tus every single day.
Typical excuse from somebody who is losing a debate - "you are completely dismissive, blah blah blah blah", if I was being dismissive I wouldn't reply with facts and logic, and i'd be insulting you instead of trying to prove you wrong, but you have my respect so I give you the time of day.
My logic is flawless in regards to my counter to your "skill competition", you ken it, ah ken it, even patsy kensit ;)
And why the F**K do people keep saying "without trying to understand yahdy yahdy yah..." If I didn't understand what you were saying I wouldn't even be able to f**king discuss it, stop being silly man.
I am doing music, and this, what's wrong with that lol.
*grabs popcorn*
Using the same maps for each game may have worked when there was more active 'pro' darters around, but now that the scheme is pretty much dead I would rather focus more on the fun element in order to bring new players into the game. If that means the competition level drops for a while then so be it. But honestly, darts died out because you were always pushing into becoming some kind of elitist 'pro sport' type of game. The gap in skill level between the pros and the noobs became too big, and the fun dried up for both. I know this is true in many schemes, but in our case the player pool is simply too small for it work.
A new player will have a better chance of beating a pro on random maps, because pros will practice and the new players probably won't. You see this as a good thing, I don't. I would rather have a more open and fun competition that will generate more interest in the scheme.
I know you want to be thought of as the best player around because you are a highly ego-driven person (which is also why you have to claim victory in every argument you are involved in), and you will probably practice these maps for hours until no one can beat you. I think your arguments here are purely selfish and not in the best interests of the scheme, or its long-term popularity.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 18, 2016, 02:55 PM
Using the same maps for each game may have worked when there was more active 'pro' darters around, but now that the scheme is pretty much dead I would rather focus more on the fun element in order to bring new players into the game. If that means the competition level drops for a while then so be it. But honestly, darts died out because you were always pushing into becoming some kind of elitist 'pro sport' type of game. The gap in skill level between the pros and the noobs became too big, and the fun dried up for both. I know this is true in many schemes, but in our case the player pool is simply too small for it work.
What a ridiculous arguement lol.
For starters, when Darts started and there were hardly any players we used the same 3 maps(the only ones that existed) and everyone was happy, your arguement here is bullsh*t.
Darts died because people like you are f**king impossible to satisfy, always moaning about sh*t and then not putting in the effort that people like me do, you could never make up your minds or just stick to a f**king decision.
Who gives a f**k about the skill gap? That's their problem, the skill gap in almost every scheme is huge between noobs and pros, if you like something you'll get better.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 18, 2016, 02:55 PM
A new player will have a better chance of beating a pro on random maps, because pros will practice and the new players probably won't. You see this as a good thing, I don't. I would rather have a more open and fun competition that will generate more interest in the scheme.
Oh I see, so you're the kind of sissy that wants everyone to be a winner lol
That's life, that's how competition works, the people who put in the effort SHOULD be rewarded with success, you are a complete idiot if you want to reward people who suck.
I bet you always won the wooden spoon at school lol.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 18, 2016, 02:55 PM
I know you want to be thought of as the best player around because you are a highly ego-driven person (which is also why you have to claim victory in every argument you are involved in), and you will probably practice these maps for hours until no one can beat you. I think your arguments here are purely selfish and not in the best interests of the scheme, or its long-term popularity.
Ok, this is YOUR ego here not mine, like everyone else who doesn't stand out, you are the one that's butthurt, not me.
I get so passionate about some things it's natural for me to excel because the fire burns inside me, I don't practise things to get good and win, I get good and win because I love doing it, and enjoy that. I've had to deal with people like you my whole life lol, and i've seen other people have to deal with people like you too, the average guy who isn't passionate enough about anything.
Darts would be nothing without me, my pure love and passion for the game made it what it is, always seeking ways to improve it, being creative and using my imagination, working hard, unlike people like you which f**king killed it with your "let's all sit in the garden and pick daisys" attitude and general f**king laziness.
You think i'm lying? Go learn your f**king statistics and history before speaking bullsh*t, everytime I quit dS/stopped playing Darts died(fact) because I was the one who put most of the effort in, Hurz is the only one who put any effort in too, but it was too much for him alone, he needed help and NO ONE gave him it, so who is really selfish??
All you done the entire time was moan and whine about things could be better but when you had the chance you done nothing! I quit and didn't show my face for like half a year, did you do anything to make the scheme better? NO YOU F**KING DIDN'T! So don't blame other people for your lack of creativity/passion.
time to update your ignorelist bro ;D
Btw I know other guys like triad done some work too but overall they were very inactive.
Bah, regardless of our opinions I always liked you and no need for me to talk to you the way I did, I got carried away, sorry for insulting you, I'll shutup about this now.
It says 4 groups, 5 in each, it'd be better 5 groups of 4 no? MI could make this more custom managable?
..,
Does that mean 3 players go through out of each group? Never seen a 20 player Cup before...
2 go through.
The reason why its not 4 players in 5 is that that scheme gives you -> 10 in ko -> 5 in ko (LL) -> 3 in KO (3 way final wich is not possible in TUS.
Lez start?
That's a shame because Darts is one of the most versatile schemes for Tournaments/Cups.
You can have 3 players in 1 game easily, or 4, or 5, or 6 lol.
I've asked MI about this in the past but he's always too busy :( I've even offered to pay him, still too busy lol.
Flexible and custom manageable Tournaments is the way forward man!
Also, no need to rush I think, they discussing rules in dS or something.
Ahh so you cant play Marian but you keep signing up for cups? What the f@#! is this?
And you keep complaining and sometimes even pulling out of cups and yet u play them? Shaddap willya :D
Well that was a win for someone else so no prob at all. Waiting for weeks and weeks for a match automatically disqualifies for any cups in general or at least it should!
hahaha that cup name. i am in.. 3 players left. gogo join !
Ppl shall use random map picker before the game instead of having it chosen already. Especially with so many players joining this cup. 100-200 darts maps out there, kinda lame to use only 10-15 of them (round stage/ko's/finals) and give ppl chance to practise it.
Quote from: Sensei on July 20, 2016, 01:49 AM
100-200 darts maps out there, kinda lame to use only 10-15 of them (round stage/ko's/finals) and give ppl chance to practise it.
1st off, make sure to state "imo", don't try to pass this off as a fact because it's definitely not true as a fact.
2nd, realizing it's an opinion, WHY is it lame? Please elaborate, don't just say "it's lame" without explaining why, because that IS lame.
Now onto my opinion:
This is a Cup to be the winners, I have no problem with people joining "just for fun", but if they are playing just for fun, keep in mind this is a competitive League so don't start giving your opinion on how it should be run when points/standings are involved.
Now, in the spirit of competition using map picker turns this more into a fun event for people who don't care about the scheme rather than a skilled competitive event for enthusiasts.
If you want to play Darts "just for fun", then go and host one with the luck based / poorly designed maps, or just go and meet some friends and play some unofficial games and enjoy that instead, please don't ruin the potential of skill that can exist in Darts.
Now for facts:
You cannot compare Darts to something like TTRR/Roper, because it's completely different, in TTRR once you know how to rope you can use that for any map because all maps are essentially the same, while Darts maps are so incredibly different you can be awesome at 10% of them and suck at the rest, for this reason using the picker for this event is a poor choice for an official competitive event in a League.
Posting the maps a few weeks in advance gives everyone an equal chance, because if you play to win, you all have an equal chance to practise, if you play for fun, you don't have to practise so what's the problem anyway because you obviously don't care about winning?
And this is probably the most important fact, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS:
Anyone who hasn't played Darts has a chance to learn the map and it's unique rules so they don't waste time when the actual Cup begins, it's more practical for someone to learn the rules and style of 5 maps than it is to try and learn all 100+ possible picks, which is why picker should be kept for practise/funners/dS Tours.
One other thing, IF for some silly reason you decide to make it mandatory to use picker, you should also make it mandatory to give all players the option to have some practise shots before each game begins, just like in real Darts ;)
You don't have different dartboards in real darts!!
Yesterday I played darts....
I lost...
Quote from: Senator on July 20, 2016, 08:12 AM
You don't have different dartboards in real darts!!
give this man a cookie !
Quote from: KinslayeR on July 20, 2016, 08:25 AM
Yesterday I played darts....
I lost...
Real Darts or WA Darts?
Quote from: Senator on July 20, 2016, 08:12 AM
You don't have different dartboards in real darts!!
Yes you do, go do some research, some different sizes of trebles/doubles depending on what event, such as PBC WBC
PBC has slightly larger areas, there are plastic dartsboards, sticky dartboards such as velcro etc.
The Yorkshire board doesn't have any Trebles, and no outer ring to the bullseye.
^^ This coming from my Dad, an ex professional Darts player.
Darts scheme would be boring with just same map for eternity lol, kinda like W2 BnG got boring with that map with the Cups.
Variety of maps in WA Darts is good, but too much variety kills skills.
Ok ty for hair splitting ;D Should u at least standardize the "throw"? 4 of 5 maps in this cup are kinda similar (you bounce from the wall and the worm flies straight to the board). #stupidquestions
Quote from: Senator on July 20, 2016, 09:32 AM
Ok ty for hair splitting ;D Should u at least standardize the "throwing" technique? 4 of 5 maps in this cup are kinda similar (you bounce from the wall and the worm flies straight to the board). #stupidquestions
Ok so take a look at TTRR, it does take a long time to get good, but once you are good that's kinda it, you can play pretty much every map with equal skill and style, you don't need "hair splitting" accuracy/consistencyt(like you do in Darts).
Before you start yelling "BLASPHEMY! TTRR does require accuracy and consistency!", yes, it does but the goal is to get from the start to the end, you can mess up a move but still recover well by reacting quickly and correcting things, if you mess up one throw in Darts, you can get your ass whooped if your opponent is strong, in TTRR you have multiple attempts at getting from start to finish, in Darts you get 8 worms(no trying again if you fail) to get the highest score possible, TTRR is easier in THAT specific sense.
In Darts, you are aiming for a small bullseye target, it's EXTREMELY difficult to do this consistently, the difference in a bullseye/miss is "hair splitting".
I've only ever done about 30 perfect games(8xBullseye) in 4-5 years of Darts(you are talking thousands of hours) and that's on the easy maps, and that's also only in challenges/practise, only 1 perfect game has ever been scored by anyone in an official game, and that was me in a dS Tour, on a map I have practised for hundreds of hours lol.
Even Koreans would have a hard time getting Perfect Games in most maps.
Because it requires so much focus and concentration, along with impeccable timing, even small differences in distance from start to target, the size of the targets, the size of the wall you bounce from, make it VERY VERY hard to be a master at all these different maps, the more maps, the less skilled a player becomes overall because it takes so much practise to be good at all maps.
Getting 3x bullseye is even harder than doing a 3s grenade hit the same spot in BnG 2 times in a row (without full pwoer), and most people find that bloody hard lol, i'm great at Darts/BnG because i'm naturally good with rhythm and timing.
So yeah, if people use "picker" the level of skill is gonna be horribly low, and imo that's an embarassment to this scheme considering how much skill it actually takes to be the best.
That moment when you realize that Komo is not a mod of this cup lol :D
ayy sensei get ur ass in the cup and then argue ;)
ttrr is luck based
picks in darts < picker
Already chosen maps > picker
Triad get ur ass back in, SiD gogo and who else we gott
shopper is most skilled scheme ever
lets start darting already damnit :D
I am MOD of all Cups ;) :P (But that's really just for accepting Cups and making sure Deadlines are met).
Yeah, using the dS Map Picker for already chosen maps, is the best way imo.
Letting someone pick maps themselves can be lame in Tournaments/Cups if they just choose their own favourites, but for example if I hosted a "Classic Darts Cup" i'd probably put up 10 of the most well known maps and have a vote on which 5 to use or something, that would be quite nostalgic and cool :D
Sensei really quit just because I made a long post and wanted a conversation with him? I didn't even insult him wtf, I actually insulted spleen and he stuck around... Weird... Come back Sensei! You are one of thee darters lol.
Komo if youd put as much effort in your music career as youbdo in your posts at tus youd be a widely known producer by now
But because youre not I would advise you to call Sensei, apologize to him (in person if its possoble Ill buy you a plane ticket) and then maaaybe hed join this.
Besides, now that youve screwed up so badly you will have to beg at wormnet for more players. Sounds fair to me and to you probably as well. :D
I put in way more effort into music than I have anything else in my life, WA and typing is easy as pie compared to music production / mixing engineering, it takes YEEEEARS of experience to become as good as I want to be, i'm impressing my peers and i've already been approached by several record labels but i've turned them down because i'm not ready yet.(When I want exposure, i'll get it lol)
Anyway, apologize to Sensei for what? I done the exact same thing he done except with way more depth and words, and added facts, I never said anything rude to him, I asked politely for him to elaborate on his opinion because i'm genuinely interested.
It amuses me how it's always the people who NEVER elaborate properly or go into proper detail that say all the ridiculous and exaggerated stuff...
Komo.. dont worry I was being really sarcastic man.
Its all good man dont worry
Edit: nice to see theres real progress looking forward to hearing more from ya
You're a dick lol, I know you were being over the top with the "as much effort" thing but you know how serious I get when talking about music so that was like "tfffffht" over my head. ::)
Also i'm very tired, which makes me very hyper in a stupid not paying much attention never stops talking kinda way, so the best way to shut me up, is to shutup yourself first :P
Are you sure you called me a dick?
Hmm that quit this cup button is so shiny now :D
Edit: also sorry lol
Quote from: piki1802 on July 20, 2016, 11:10 AM
Are you sure you called me a dick?
That's a good thing, insults are a sign of appreciation :P
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 20, 2016, 10:22 AM
Sensei really quit just because I made a long post and wanted a conversation with him?
Don't give yourself so much meaning dude :)
I didn't even joined this cup yet.
Just throwing some facts and waiting for you to get dramatic haha
Quote from: Sensei on July 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Don't give yourself so much meaning dude :)
I didn't even joined this cup yet.
Lol, it was piki who said you quit, I didn't know if you were in or not, i'm glad this way because i'd hate to have made you quit like that, but since you aren't, get in already!
THE KOMITO AKA KOMODO AKA KOMSO AKA KOMO!!!
I am playing this cup!!!
HOPE TO MEET YOU IN SAME GROUP BRO!!! :-*
I will take you down Kinslayer!
I invited UC`Killer who hosted darts funner today.
KilleR is active again? oO
Goatmax u said that at RDC #2 as well didnt go really as planned lol.
And Komo.... so original... blaming me I never said Sensei had quit the cup! Or maybe I have. Dunno talking a lot of nonSense(i) (ahahaha so punny) anyway.
Xan will win this cup mark my words
Quote from: piki1802 on July 20, 2016, 02:55 PM
Xan will win this cup mark my words
You fool, everyone knows Adnan will easily pwn all of us
Yes if im in final you all can pack your shit and go to Moon in advance coz the Earth will blast right after i take gold xDD
Welcome back Pikinator, nice to see you rocking again, i hope to get you in group hehe
Eyy Im looking foward to try to beat ur ass as well :D
But experience from dspt tells me that I often fail in doing so hehe
Im only back for this cup dont worry btw :p
Marian shhh and Sensei damnit man ur guys are already spamming "senseis back" comments join it be a man lez dart for fun not for stupid points :D
btw message to komo, ull get pwned in group stage ;)
I bet 2 stones and a potato for Piki 3-0 Komito
Don't worry piki, i'm playing on my smallest, worst laptop, so I won't be the guys I used to be :P
Well, seems like I cant get to any laptop around here.
Good luck n have fun guys, maybe next cup
hmm,start with 20 then?
I WILL WIN WITH PHIL TAYLOR!
Masta are you gonna have time to play? You signed up to Roper cup and no games played yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/qDQeQMf.png)
id rather kick goatmax and start with 20. in my last cup he screwed it.
will decide tonight.
hmm more easy this way.
lez.
incoming godmax nonsense post
Hi group,
I could mainly play after work, around 4pm GMT+0 and sometimes at weekend nights.
And I got a free monday... so please pm me.
See you :-[
Quote from: TheWalrus on July 23, 2016, 12:52 AM
incoming godmax nonsense post
i didnt kick him, he left.
btw not replacing gildarts cuz randomly picked maps.
its no wish your song show, if start once, evryone will.
Quote from: Hurz on July 23, 2016, 04:02 AM
btw not replacing gildarts cuz randomly picked maps.
Can I at least play with an edited version of the map? We addressed this before but you never replied.
Because, sorry, I refuse to play on a map you have to jump and risk plopping to connect to the ideal part.
Since i'm playing on laptop I can't really take it seriously so just gonna have fun, but that would annoy the sh*t out of me lol, so if if it comes down to 2-2 in any my games, i'm out lol :D
I wanted KOMODORE in my team!
To be honest.. I only registered to this cup to play with komo, so why u hurt me so bad now :(
Yo group 1,when can you play the next week?
Haha the Boss is ahead, Marian, warm up your.... khm, darts :D
Quote from: XanKriegor on July 23, 2016, 03:17 PM
Haha the Boss is ahead, Marian, warm up your.... khm, darts :D
my game is still not fixed yet so I will have to play without 75 fps :<
Not confident of winning xD
komo if it comes to 2:2 and you refuse to play gildarts as it is you'll lose that game.
evryone else plays the same map without complaining, if you got bad laptop atm its bad luck, the map has always been good enough to play, you dont need to get an extrawurst, as we'd say in german :D
Quote from: Hurz on July 23, 2016, 07:47 PM
komo if it comes to 2:2 and you refuse to play gildarts as it is you'll lose that game.
evryone else plays the same map without complaining, if you got bad laptop atm its bad luck, the map has always been good enough to play, you dont need to get an extrawurst, as we'd say in german :D
I never said it's the laptops fault, it's the maps fault, we asked if you could make an edited version of the map for everyone but you ignored it!
The map hasn't always been good enough to play that's the point do you even listen?? You should know better by now, to re-pick maps that have flaws.
F**k it i'm just gonna give everyone a free win.
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 23, 2016, 10:36 PM
I never said it's the laptops fault, it's the maps fault, we asked if you could make an edited version of the map for everyone but you ignored it!
i didnt ignore it but you found some contraargument your self during your own request, evryone would need to redownload edited map and promisable there would be troubles.
anyway, imo theres no reason to replace/edit the map. start surrounding and wall to attach rope are parts of the map, if one screws to attach and plops there its own fault - same, and maybe even more, for princemap. many ppl fall by mess round roping the start part - no need to take risks there.
can practice that, too ;)
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 23, 2016, 10:36 PM
The map hasn't always been good enough to play that's the point do you even listen?? You should know better by now, to re-pick maps that have flaws.
thats your opinion.
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 23, 2016, 10:36 PM
F**k it i'm just gonna give everyone a free win.
no need to get mad.
Quote from: Hurz on July 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
didnt ignore it but you found some contraargument your self during your own request, evryone would need to redownload edited map and promisable there would be troubles.
So wait, you purposely ignored us? Great job at being a mod??
There is no problem with having to re-download the map, you could easily take 3 steps, post it in the description, post it in this thread and send a PM to every player involved with a download link.
If they don't get it by then, their problem not yours.
Quote from: Hurz on July 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
anyway, imo theres no reason to replace/edit the map. start surrounding and wall to attach rope are parts of the map, if one screws to attach and plops there its own fault - same, and maybe even more, for princemap. many ppl fall by mess round roping the start part - no need to take risks there.
can practice that, too ;)
Ok so it's the players fault if they jump towards it to connect, and their computer lags, and they fall to the water?
How is that their fault? That's poor map design and you know it, the map should be re-designed to prevent that.
Yes, if people screw around and fail, that's their fault, but you and I know more than anyone how evil getting a lag at the wrong time can be :(
When I say give free wins don't mean not play, just gonna mess around cuz I don't see the point taking it seriously with this map selection lol.
Lags can ruin your throw anyway, what does having to jump got to do with it?
Quote from: spleen17 on July 23, 2016, 11:20 PM
Lags can ruin your throw anyway, what does having to jump got to do with it?
Yeah lag can ruin your shot but you can still land on the target somewhere, it's not always horrible, it can be though, i'd much rather at least have a shot at shooting than not even connecting to the part you have to bounce at...
This shouldn't even have got this far, it should have been changed/fixed right away no questions asked.
It isn't about what I want, it's about doing the right thing, stop being a f**king moron.
This is the problem, whenever I make comments about what's wrong with logic and calm posts, you guys always respond with f**king childish videos, images and comments, which then makes me say bad things too... WHY??
We've been playing the map like that for years and suddenly having to jump is a major problem?
Dude, what is wrong with you? You are like some old man getting more and more senile by the day.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 23, 2016, 11:46 PM
We've been playing the map like that for years and suddenly having to jump is a major problem?
Dude, what is wrong with you? You are like some old man getting more and more senile by the day.
I've always complained about it lol...
Yup, blame it on the person who notices the problems and tries to offer solutions, totally don't blame it on the people uninterested to do anything about them.
Sums up TUS:
(http://images.memes.com/meme/tile/205298)
Tbh the problem is most of the time you just don't like my tone of text lol, but then again I never have sugarcoated anything and never will, call it like it is.
Quote from: TheKomodo on July 18, 2016, 11:34 AM
@Piki, sure an edited version would be good but would have to make sure everyone downloads it, it is a nice map, I still feel it'd be less complicated to simply replace it though
the way you said this made it sound like itd be a hassle to make an edited version and to make sure everybody downloads it.
I honestly dont see a problem in you being the only one playing that edited map for safety reasons. If others want to "risk" with jumping then let them do that.
Its worms. A video game made for fun and not world cup like stuff. So lez calm down, enjoy it.
Komo, could you be bothered to make an edited version of the map and share it for the people who want that version as well?
If not could anybody be?
Theres seriously no reason whatsoever to mess around on purpose because of one simple decision (yet to be) made. :)
Quote from: piki1802 on July 24, 2016, 12:24 AM
the way you said this made it sound like itd be a hassle to make an edited version and to make sure everybody downloads it.
It's not a hassle, it's just quicker and easier to just switch maps, would literally take about 30 seconds(considering you don't have slow sh**ty loading times).
Quote from: piki1802 on July 24, 2016, 12:24 AM
I honestly dont see a problem in you being the only one playing that edited map for safety reasons. If others want to "risk" with jumping then let them do that.
Well, as said before, this isn't about me and my personal agenda, this is about doing the right thing, not using flawed maps, like how we used edited maps(successfully) in dSC/dSTC we could easily do the same thing here, improving game play, reducing bad luck, which would make everyone slightly happier(even if they don't realize it).
If this was asking for huge complicated tasks then we could see why Hurz/spleen17 had issues but what I am asking for is a ridiculously simple fix but for some stubborn reason he just won't do it.
Quote from: piki1802 on July 24, 2016, 12:24 AM
Komo, could you be bothered to make an edited version of the map and share it for the people who want that version as well?
Yes, i'd be more than happy to make this if it was actually going to be used properly, but that won't happen.
Left this bit until last because it's a long reply.
Quote from: piki1802 on July 24, 2016, 12:24 AM
Its worms. A video game made for fun and not world cup like stuff. So lez calm down, enjoy it.
For the past few years people have been putting in less effort, and complain more how things suck, it's THEIR fault for having this "it's a video game made for fun, let's put no effort into improving anything" attitude, always choosing the simpler, lazier, easier option...
Let's look at it this way, i'm saying this because it's factual, and you just need to look at the entire history of Darts and dS forums, and private forums to see the truth:
Everytime I left dS/WA, Darts started dying, everytime I rejoined, Darts started getting activity again, why is that? Maybe it's because I put in a ridiculous amount of effort hosting events, building up hype, creating things, making it look good, and pretty much no one else did.
I have a lot of respect for Hurz as he managed to keep Darts barely alive when I was gone, without him Darts would have been 100% dead, but even he gave up too.
Had a chat with Xan a while back and he wishes i'd comeback to resurrect Darts again, yes I miss dS and playing Darts but it's honestly like cat 'n' string, when i'm gone nobody cares about Darts, when i'm making decisions and organizing events everyone starts yelling suggestions and giving their input, acting like they care then f**king moaning at me because I tell them some of their ideas are stupid(for good reason, but they just don't get it).
And it always ended up the same way, "You never listen to us, blah blah blah, you always do what you want, blah blah blah", even though I implemented a lot of ideas suggested by the community, tried hard to encourage other people to make maps and organize stuff themselves, mostly they just weren't interested.
Most of dS always kept their mouth shut as much as possible and never got involved in team projects or anything, but god forbid I say something they disagree with then you couldn't shut them up! It's the only time they will put effort into anything, get them into an arguement with Komo...
Regardless though, there is no one in dS I hate or anything, still love them all they were like a family to me for so long, some of the best memories from playing this game I will ever have, so many times I was genuinely crying with laughter, especially in later night dS Tours, heck, I even miss arguing with Marian! At least the guy tried with all his heart to win most games lol, although he was a b**ch about it, he tried! He seems like he's matured now though, could possibly be the only game I enjoy in the entire Cup with be with Marian, how is that for f**ked up lol!
nice pants down mate.
agree in lot, need to sleep, longer reply later .
Haha much drama.. Before reading all of this, just wanna say: gildarts is perfectly fine!
Just tele on far left, use backflip and attach on wristband. No way to plop due to laggs/freezes or any other shit involved.
Komo, I remember mine and Husk's Hyst BnG cup. You joined it and didn't even read rules or downloaded proper scheme. When I asked you to do it, you wanted to drop out.
That self-confidence of yours can get pretty hilarious at times.
Sensei, we've discussed this before, doing it that way, while yes it works you can miss several times and it's a complete waste of time, have you never seen Xan trying backflip jump connections before, i've seen him lose his turn so many times lol, Hurz tried backflip connections and missed the timing also, you done it too few times and me too.
That BnG Cup and this Cup are 2 completely different unrelated things, yeah I didn't read the description properly because the initial description said "bng with so and so" so I assumed it was a certain way, I can't even properly remember the arguement but whatever it's in the past where it belongs.
You would make a great wife someday though, changing the subject and bringing up one definite time someone was wrong to try and make something of it in the present lol.
Yes, I have a lot of self confidence, and that's why i'm good at almost everything i've ever done in my life, just because a bunch of boobs on a gaming forum can't see right from wrong doesn't make that bad.
Sensei, if you want, you can take my place here, I think you'd enjoy it more than me and obviously some other people would too.
I remembered that particular cup cause it was the first time I've seen you admitting being wrong haha ;)
No thx, gonna skip this one. Would have joined if maps weren't pre-ordered.
Yeah, I will always honorably admit when wrong, when people use real facts and evidence to back up their claims, but when people say "you always have to be right", well DUH! It's not like i'm trying to be wrong ::)
See? Komo is back = darts live again :D
Legends says each time a Komo posts a long post, a darter scores bullseye somewhere.
Lol Triad.
For komo, I like that spirit and attitude towards the scheme man. I always appreciated the work you put in the scheme (while I was playing it actively) and Ive always done my comunity work for dS whenever ya asked to. I dont mind the passion, when I said lets have fun because its a video game, I was specifically talking about this cup.
so okay Gildarts needs a change. But lets not influence and ruin a cup for some of us because of this issue. Its perfectly okay that youve pointed out towards us it needs a change but if theres one thing I get a bit annoyed with its that when one thing isnt great according rules people immediately do not accept to play.
Thats just my personal opinion though. I do not want to say thats bad or anything because in a way it does raise attention towards the problem.
But ya, come back to dS, would love to see more bullseyes hit all over the world :)
Quote from: Triad on July 24, 2016, 06:51 AM
Legends says each time a Komo posts a long post, a darter scores bullseye somewhere.
Still waiting for my bullseye
Quote from: Triad on July 24, 2016, 06:51 AM
Legends says each time a Komo posts a long post, a darter scores bullseye somewhere.
Why do you think Gary Anderson(My Fathers old partner lol) became world champ? ;)
@Piki
I appreciate that, you are one of the very few people who manages to keep a conversation with a calm mind even if our opinions disagree without resorting to childish insults, thanks.
I am playing btw, never said that I wasn't? Offered to swap with Sensei though because thought he'd enjoy it more, but i'll definitely play.
Just said that either way I wouldn't be putting effort into winning because playing on my worst laptop, sure my is PC setup as of 10 minutes ago for 3 weeks while parents are on vacation but will still play on laptop because no way this Cup will be finished in 3 weeks lol.
No way I can come back to dS right now, most of my time is spent working and doing music these days, getting fit / dating girls again, the next 3 weeks is so I can clanner with lalo/daina one last time :)
Maybe in the future someday if this game still exists?
bah mi is this bug fixable maybe someday? had it like each cup now, if game got reported wrong and deleted, when ppl try to rereport they get mess "you used that replay already" etc
Hurz if you are the cup mod you should also be able to edit games, add more replays etc. Don't need to delete and re-report every time.
true. just saw timos request and quickly deleted.
Quote from: Hurz on July 24, 2016, 12:00 PM
bah mi is this bug fixable maybe someday? had it like each cup now, if game got reported wrong and deleted, when ppl try to rereport they get mess "you used that replay already" etc
editing the name of the replay should fix that
seems he found out by himself ;)
About Gildarts, I would make an edited version but I don't have a laptop with me atm because I am on vacation(also the reason why I didn't participate).
Also not my problem, bitch. ;D I always attach down part of bandages anyway, making start closer would kill my swing.
thats my point. komo is the only one seem to have a problem with a map (piki agreed its complicated tho, ye.) wich has been used for years, in cups, challenges, tours etc.
why its suddenly such a prob (cant remember complaints bout edit it from before)?
Quote from: Hurz on July 24, 2016, 01:51 PM
thats my point. komo is the only one seem to have a problem with a map (piki agreed its complicated tho, ye.) wich has been used for years, in cups, challenges, tours etc.
why its suddenly such a prob (cant remember complaints bout edit it from before)?
Why do I always have to be the one always striving for excellence and having to explain sh*t... Really wish you guys could see this yourselves...
I am not the ONLY one with a problem with the map, but indeed the ONLY one who speaks up enough to try and do something about it, it was a problem in the past, I mentioned it the 1st time playing it but it wasn't my map so couldn't edit it, it's up to the guy who made it to fix the official version.
If it's been in a Cup before, it must have been people using it in random picker, everytime picker selects flawed maps you know i'm the 1st person to ask for a repick, so that's why i've never really used this map except in dS Tours, only playing dSC maps I felt were worth my time, this map in question NOT being one of them.
By making start closer, the start platform will on the way for the people who attach below. Unfortunately, there's no possible way to satisfy both side completely. Thus, current version of the map is best one to go.
Triad, use the problem solving part of your brain, I bet you $100 could make an edit that suits both our interests.
Remember how we solved all the issues in our collab?
I will think about it. Meanwhile, you guys can make and test unofficial edited versions, if it's possible to have a version where swings works perfectly from highest and lowest part of bandages, I will make an official edit from original psd file.
komo asked to be replaced.
Hahaha
Pfffft, no main event for us anymore.
Quote from: XanKriegor on July 31, 2016, 12:09 PM
Pfffft, no main event for us anymore.
what main event?
you vs Komo, what main event...
Quote from: XanKriegor on August 01, 2016, 02:11 PM
you vs Komo, what main event...
It was too wild to let it happen xD
Street,when can ya usually play?
i can play this days it the afternoons around 21:00 German time
Quote from: Street on August 02, 2016, 10:39 AM
i can play this days it the afternoons around 21:00 German time
That is not afternoon at all...
Any chance you can make it at early times like 10-11 gmt?
Hey, I'll try to show more presence for the remaining games.
Street let's play the games tomorrow at 21 then? And Krivoy when can you play? (pretty much any time except during the night for me)
yo Kins I know u r active =P let's meet in ag!
Quote from: piki1802 on July 17, 2016, 06:29 PM
Perfect haha :)
Can see 20 happening, sent pecet pm, will have contact with letk triad said maybe, missing Alien n a couple more dS guys though. Whatsup with Sniper :D if that was his nick lol
LoL
ooooo who is baaaaack :D
Groups 2/3/4 are going pretty slow, especially 2, only 14 days left so just going to remind you:
NO EXTRA DEADLINES!
GJ so far Group 1 :)
aeeee guys just keep ya snoopers on ag while u play other games, watch movies and read articles and it's much easier to find eachother =P
1 week to go, lez see some action.
me only on nightly atm, 21 gmt earliest. bad shifts... if cant play that late*, lez meet weekend.
*edit: early, in your guys cases :D
1 more week.
0 games guys, explain yourselves or get banned from future cups.
same goes for 0 activity guys, not seeing much of arrangements.
No extra deadlines xD Cya this weekend.
No extra deadlines? Suuuure xD
i didnt state that.
Not me nor Marian said you did :D
Deadline was too long anyway tbh :P
Me and spleen have been waiting for a while xD gogogo
sorry for my inactivity ! i hope i can still play all group games with you guys.
find me in #ag or answer on my pm to arrange a date and time.
nice strike alien :D
GAYSLAYER WHERE R U XD
3 days left. shall i send pms again?
Quote from: Hurz on August 27, 2016, 07:13 PM
3 days left. shall i send pms again?
send death warnings,might work better
Quote from: Hurz on August 27, 2016, 07:13 PM
3 days left. shall i send pms again?
i will be avaliable in the evening, catch me guys
i am in #ag zexorz, come and play our game or write when you can play.
KO Games: Best of 7
Maps for KO stage:
Planet ICE (https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-10668/)
The SimpsDarts (https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-11187/)
Minidarts (https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-15316/)
Deviation (https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-11636/)
Bank it! (https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-10000/)
ymo (https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-15323/)
Flight of the snowflake (https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-11058/)
3 weeks for this
epic pairs + maps :)
would love to watch some.
Deviation....Xan's favorite map xD
Ah hell, going to KOs was worth it :|
:'(
btw when arrange games please lemme know bout dates, as said, would be nice to witness some of those games :-*.
Quote from: XanKriegor on August 31, 2016, 01:26 PM
Ah hell, going to KOs was worth it :|
I wish it was you :(
Also,is the 3 weeks for whole ko stage or just round 1?
Masta,any chance to see you next Thursday or next weekend?
aeeee sure m8, dennis saturday 14:00 GMT good?
Quote from: MarianRV on August 31, 2016, 03:06 PM
Also,is the 3 weeks for whole ko stage or just round 1?
stage. its 8 games in total, all ppl similar or same timezone, shouldnt be impossible...
So maps are the same for quarter finals and semi-finals yes? And then changes for final/bronze?
When do you want to play Hurz?
ye i cosider change maps for semis tho, lez see when games are played.
how bout tonight?
Can do
Was supposed to play today with Masta, didn't manage to find him
Any times you can give,Masta?
maybe you didnt look for nonentity ag? :D:D
He was at AG for long time.
lol im talking about YOU :D
Quote from: XanKriegor on September 11, 2016, 07:17 AM
lol im talking about YOU :D
oh lol okay xDDD
Edit: funny thing is that Masta searched for me today (Sunday) xd when haven't been on AG at all :/
im sure youll manage it :D
aeeee ksuh!
when shall we do it?
and... still not sure if same maps for semi or not lol.
bit late for new ones i guess so lez do that crap again mate.
early shift this week for me, so no night games.
Hopefully I find Masta today,otherwise my next free day will be Thursday (he asked me 22 gmt but that's not good at all,proposed 19 gmt and waiting)
aeee hurzy so evenings? =P
i'll be in da ag m8
No luck again...Thursday it is for next try
Edit: So Masta, how does 16-18 GMT on Thursday sound?
You can proceed Masta if you want to, at the moment I need to start doing a lot of things that are required for Oxford university so my free time becomes kinda...none
i dislike proceeding unplayed...
dont see a chance to make it during deadline?
Very unlikely, the problem is whenever Masta can play I can't and vice versa. All arrangements we did resulted in a fail (sometimes Masta didnt even reply to my suggestion). Also there is this sudden decision of my parents to not let me play until I finish a shitload of papers xd , really wish I could stay till the end but eh..uni's top priority
lez hope for we
well
end of deadline imma proceed masta. yet it sucks.
ah well...
k alien masta pls play semi asap then.
will pick maps for finals and bronze next days so who want can practise ;)
bad engrish :)
Ok (Sorry for terrible english)
xDDDDDD
bah. go home nab
final maps picked.
any contact, masta, alien?
(http://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/1007544007/1.2962643/contact-1997.jpg)
jodie masta :D
2nd ko game with Masta even more inactive than the 1st xD
how about today or tomorrow masta ?
eyyyy masta I'm looking forward for our games meight8
if possible id like to watch so pls make public dating :D
aeeee masta friday 23:00 GMT good?
aeeee me and masta date friday 21:00 GMT
kewl trying to be there.
alien how about we play then too? could have big meeting :)
yes sounds good. let's watch the bronze match and after that, we can play our final game.
let's do this, gl hf everyone !
gj alien
t for taking part, ggs, was a pleasure.
sometimes.
Huuuurz,why didn't you get gold for UC :<
Gj Husky for bronze hehe xD
thanks ae
looking forward to the next cup xD
Quote from: MarianRV on October 08, 2016, 01:24 PM
Huuuurz,why didn't you get gold for UC :<
alien was 2 hours late :P