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Title: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 10, 2016, 06:40 AM
Btw, I must point out people could use sitters, 5s nade with no LG or Max, and all other kinds of crazy shit, because you wrote "BnG League rules" where you should have wrote "TuS BnG League rules", I know it would be lame for someone to do this, but they could, because you haven't been specific.

I see you have added the a2b no repeat shot rule also, most likely after my repeat shot dominance last night due to other people being too stubborn to move. You should just write a full description, and list of rules, and just copy/paste each time you host a Tournament.

I love a2b style and I love TuS style, they are very different and require different tactics, but please don't end up making this just a2b rules in full, I hosted a2b Tournaments some years ago and plan to do it in future, i'd rather you create your own set of rules, or stick to full TuS, or maybe even do something completely different, I am really enjoying the Hysterial BnG cup atm, it's a nice idea, I tried 1/2/3s BnG with Reso years and years ago but didn't think much of it then, but now it's really cool for some reason...

Maybe like unanchored 3s BnG or some shit I dunno xD

Anyway, keep up the activity mate, loving it :D
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 10, 2016, 10:16 AM
Ok i`ll do some tinking an will make completely diferent set of rules and i tink obout TS also for power when you reach max power when it is starting to come down then release the weapon of choise
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 10, 2016, 03:58 PM
Btw, I must point out people could use sitters, 5s nade with no LG or Max, and all other kinds of crazy shit, because you wrote "BnG League rules" where you should have wrote "TuS BnG League rules", I know it would be lame for someone to do this, but they could, because you haven't been specific.

I see you have added the a2b no repeat shot rule also, most likely after my repeat shot dominance last night due to other people being too stubborn to move. You should just write a full description, and list of rules, and just copy/paste each time you host a Tournament.

I love a2b style and I love TuS style, they are very different and require different tactics, but please don't end up making this just a2b rules in full, I hosted a2b Tournaments some years ago and plan to do it in future, i'd rather you create your own set of rules, or stick to full TuS, or maybe even do something completely different, I am really enjoying the Hysterial BnG cup atm, it's a nice idea, I tried 1/2/3s BnG with Reso years and years ago but didn't think much of it then, but now it's really cool for some reason...

Maybe like unanchored 3s BnG or some shit I dunno xD

Anyway, keep up the activity mate, loving it :D
Hope you like this
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Sensei on January 10, 2016, 04:46 PM
"You can only shot when you reach max power and level of power is going down"

I don't see this as smth that ppl would like. Would be too hard to get zook power you wished. And no full power shots too. But yeah, give it a try :)
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 10, 2016, 05:01 PM
No, I hate /ts, it removes too many nice shot possibilities.

360 BnG lmfao, this just reminds me of 360 no scope babies in CoD, and that's possibly the saddest thing i've seen in my life :D

By the way, maybe you shouldn't upload every scheme you think of, there are too many horrible schemes uploaded without testing them with other people 1st.

We can brainstorm together with walrus n that later at some point, there is no rush mate :)

I would say just use what you've been using already until we figure out something really nice, get some feedback from other BnG players 1st before accepting a scheme.
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 10, 2016, 05:24 PM
we have tested few times and when you do 360 your only option is panic shot whit 8 second turn time yes you have no time to ajust your shot
and can`t do ``fancy shots`` like you call them but still 2 seconds left to react after the loop and you can perform good shots still tnx for the apenion guys you`v to kind i guess i`ll stop hosting tours don`t do this don`t do that worst idea ever hf whit you can reject it if you want




PS: sometimes worst ideas become good when you give it a try but NVM i quit doing tours tyvm
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheWalrus on January 10, 2016, 06:02 PM
I disagree with Komo, and I'm with you on the /ts, i've thought for a long time that BnG should use /ts to prevent 4 sec laming, it would just make the scheme much better IMO.  It would make the 4 sec like the 3 sec, if you want a good shot you need power to be perfect, wheras full power 4's the power is always perfect, need worry only about the angle. 

I disagree with releasing the power as it is coming down, what if you wanted full power zook?  You'd need to anticipate it and it would be so easy to cow.  I see this being a problem.
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 10, 2016, 06:11 PM
I disagree with Komo, and I'm with you on the /ts, i've thought for a long time that BnG should use /ts to prevent 4 sec laming, it would just make the scheme much better IMO.  It would make the 4 sec like the 3 sec, if you want a good shot you need power to be perfect, wheras full power 4's the power is always perfect, need worry only about the angle. 

I disagree with releasing the power as it is coming down, what if you wanted full power zook?  You'd need to anticipate it and it would be so easy to cow.  I see this being a problem.

well you can do split second release just when it reached his limit
becose the power is going down in ts anyway

PS: That example gif is direct hit whit Zero wind BTW but Xan didn`t put the hit part and  y i culd be more detailed whit power part you i shuld say You can release weapon when it reached his max limit or when going down
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Sensei on January 10, 2016, 06:17 PM
if you want a good shot you need power to be perfect, wheras full power 4's the power is always perfect, need worry only about the angle.

Well, IMO, 3s nades are lamer then 4s fp.. It's easier to adjust power than to find an angle on 4. especially if your opponent have a great hide.

And those 3s..man.. they just can get you anywhere on map!

Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 10, 2016, 06:20 PM
You shouldn't stop hosting Tournaments Street, you are doing a great job!

I honestly think you can come up with something great if you don't give up mate! You are learning BnG very fast and have so much potential, stick in mate :D

Don't take it personally, I just find it funny, 360 no scope BnG? Cmon, it's mockery of a great scheme lol...

BnG is supposed to be about patience, it's a scheme you can relax with, take your time n stuff, not some mad rush after wasting a pointless 5 seconds or so rotating the cursor for no f@#!ing reason whatsoever except novelty?? I mean really, 360? It's a waste of time lol, all that time spent spinning around like a f@#!ing fandango I could be spending with my hand in my pants or something...

I am not getting into the /ts arguement again, I already spent months on that one, if you wanna find out why it's such a shit idea then go look up TuS for the thread, I can't remember what it's called or i'd look myself...
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: xSniperx on January 10, 2016, 06:21 PM
if you want a good shot you need power to be perfect, wheras full power 4's the power is always perfect, need worry only about the angle.

Well, IMO, 3s nades are lamer then 4s fp.. It's easier to adjust power than to find an angle on 4. especially if your opponent have a great hide.

And those 3s..man.. they just can get you anywhere on map!

Nahhh there is a beauty to a nice 3sec nade , 4sfp is effevtive but ugly.
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 10, 2016, 06:23 PM
You shouldn't stop hosting Tournaments Street, you are doing a great job!

I honestly think you can come up with something great if you don't give up mate! You are learning BnG very fast and have so much potential, stick in mate :D

Don't take it personally, I just find it funny, 360 no scope BnG? Cmon, it's mockery of a great scheme lol...

BnG is supposed to be about patience, it's a scheme you can relax with, take your time n stuff, not some mad rush after wasting a pointless 5 seconds or so rotating the cursor for no f@#!ing reason whatsoever except novelty?? I mean really, 360? It's a waste of time lol, all that time spent spinning around like a f@#!ing fandango I could be spending with my hand in my pants or something...

I am not getting into the /ts arguement again, I already spent months on that one, if you wanna find out why it's such a shit idea then go look up TuS for the thread, I can't remember what it's called or i'd look myself...
ok lets take last scheme as a joke . i`ll tink of someting verry nice
can you delete the complain ? but i am to kind anyways
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 10, 2016, 06:24 PM
The only problem with 4s FP that there ever was, is when someone learns how to notch, and all they do all game is tele, 4s, tele 4s, tele 4s, tele 4s, tele, 4s etc etc etc...

4s grenades are absolutely beautiful when you use them at the right moment, and if you don't abuse them.

Even 4s rollers are gorgeous sometimes, most of them suck balls, but occasionally someone hides in such a weird hide, they look so nice when they go bounce bounce BOOM in yo face!
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 10, 2016, 06:24 PM
can you delete the complain ?

I can't sorry, I am Tournament MOD, not forum MOD, sorry :(
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: xSniperx on January 10, 2016, 06:26 PM
You shouldn't stop hosting Tournaments Street, you are doing a great job!

I honestly think you can come up with something great if you don't give up mate! You are learning BnG very fast and have so much potential, stick in mate :D

Don't take it personally, I just find it funny, 360 no scope BnG? Cmon, it's mockery of a great scheme lol...

BnG is supposed to be about patience, it's a scheme you can relax with, take your time n stuff, not some mad rush after wasting a pointless 5 seconds or so rotating the cursor for no f@#!ing reason whatsoever except novelty?? I mean really, 360? It's a waste of time lol, all that time spent spinning around like a f@#!ing fandango I could be spending with my hand in my pants or something...

I am not getting into the /ts arguement again, I already spent months on that one, if you wanna find out why it's such a shit idea then go look up TuS for the thread, I can't remember what it's called or i'd look myself...

It's really not often you get to use that word.
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: XanKriegor on January 10, 2016, 06:44 PM
Yes it was very nice headshot)))
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 10, 2016, 07:55 PM
Ok this is last edit i do for this tour i`ll tink of someting new next tour  :-X
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 11, 2016, 08:21 AM
Ok this is last edit i do for this tour i`ll tink of someting new next tour  :-X

Sorry, but maybe not, wanna help you out here, there are some errors, and I have some suggestions you might like :)

Quote from: Rules
No Darksiding - You are not allowed to use a hide where you cannot aim directly at your opponent  :-\

What about if you are pushed? You aren't allowed to attempt a return shot? If you are not allowed to try a return shot I have to say that gives the 1st player a huge advantage if they manage to push for 2-3 or more turns... Imagine me getting 1st turn, and I push you every single shot, and you HAVE to move to some easy hide where I can hit you again and again, doesn't sound fair or even fun does it?

Quote from: Rules
You can`t use 5 second nades unless they are whit low gravity or max bounce  :-\
4 second nades can only be performed whit low gravity/max bounce  :-\

Those rules are exactly the same so you could shorten it like this:

"You can only use 4 or 5 second grenades in the following combinations:

Low Gravity
Max bounce
Low Gravity & Max Bounce."


Quote from: Rules
you can use repeat shot only if you have moved or  take 10 or less HP of your oponents worm  (your oponent is for example 40 HP you take from him 20 HP  repeat that shot and Kill your oponent you get DQ )    :-\

Should change that to this so there is no confusion:

"Repeat shots:

If you do damage of 10hp or more, you may not use that shot again until you have moved your own worm to a new hide, or your opponent has moved their own worm to a new hide.

If you do less than 10hp damage, you may try the shot again."


^^ I left out the bit about being disqualified, because, accidents can happen, another punishment would be to subtract the damage you caused, from your own worm, or here's a new idea, if you break the rule, you must subtract the damage you dealt from your own worm & skip your next turn.

Just an idea, but to be disqualified for such a small accident is too harsh, i've broke the rules a few times by accident myself, it happens for various reasons, let's be fair here :)


Quote from: Rules
no stait bazooka or 1 second grenades  :-\

Change this to:

"No bazookas aimed straight/horizontally towards the enemy

You are not allowed to use 1 second grenades to attack the enemy"


^^ I say this because it's a useful tactic sometimes to use 1s nade to destroy your own land, of course you can still disallow this if you want, just a suggestion.

Quote from: Rules
You are not allowed to stand on left/right ege of the map  :-\

Hmm, what exactly do you mean by this? You mean hide on the last pixels of a map, or the last hide?

I am unsure as to why you would disallow this? As long as they aren't darksiding it's their own risk/tactics?

Quote from: Rules
Zero wind/1 bar winds Bazooka shots  can only be performed whit Low Gravity  :-\

Great rule for zero wind zook, will make it a bit more challenging, are you sure you wanna do the same for 1 bar though, they aren't as easy it takes some skill to get those right, especially at weird angles, again, your choice mate :)




Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 11, 2016, 09:03 AM
ty Very much Komito for helping me here next time when i tink obout rules i`ll consult them whit you  :) i`ll put the whole darkisde rule and edited rules and y i`ll remove 1 bar LG rule




PS: now i have better idea how to build My description and stuff i will come up whit more great tings Looks much better now
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: XanKriegor on January 11, 2016, 11:29 AM
Haha i never thought that BnG scheme can be buried under even bigger mountain of rules and restrictions :D This is level up for sure, gj mate))
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 11, 2016, 11:53 AM
Ty Xan i aprishiate your apinion and i  tink of some hardcore BnG  but i need to level up furst from Blacky Chan to Pro Chan Blackster
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 11, 2016, 10:00 PM
Haha i never thought that BnG scheme can be buried under even bigger mountain of rules and restrictions :D This is level up for sure, gj mate))

There are many schemes with more rules than BnG lol :D
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: spleen17 on January 11, 2016, 10:01 PM
There are many schemes with more rules than BnG lol :D

Darts for one :P
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheWalrus on January 11, 2016, 11:37 PM
bng should be played with as many rules as possible for maximum fun
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: xSniperx on January 11, 2016, 11:44 PM
bng should be played with as many rules as possible for maximum fun

What he said
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: XanKriegor on January 12, 2016, 06:40 AM
Yes and seems like Street have decided to take the bull by the udder :D
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: TheKomodo on January 12, 2016, 07:34 AM
Yup, just finished my daily routine of coming home from work, sitting down to check TuS forums and end up staring at wallys sig for 5 minutes :)
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: Street on January 17, 2016, 09:12 PM
Tnx for touring guys it was alot of fun congrats Xrayez for wining the gold
Title: Re: Tournament #836, BnG #3
Post by: lales on January 17, 2016, 09:56 PM
Congratz you for Bronze medal ;)