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Title: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: sm0k on July 31, 2012, 10:54 AM
intes keychange is better ;p u can keep the orginal space there too ;p and isnt that complicated ;p
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Impossible on July 31, 2012, 12:20 PM
intes doesnt work on chat
you need to turn on/off intes all the time
intes isnt integrated on worms and have lower speed, meanwile module doesnt have any delay since it build in script
intes takes higher cpu
intes will also work outside WA
etc etc
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: skOrpuz on July 31, 2012, 02:53 PM
indeed Impo.

I was using my remap of my keyboard (it comes with three modes to do this)
and is very good coz i active it in the moment that want...just pressing a special key. but sometimes i forgot to do it :P
so i dont need to worry about it anymore xDDDDD

i have a doubt ... only 2 keys I can remap? or i can add more?
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Maciej on July 31, 2012, 05:45 PM
I gave it a try, but it works like unallowed script there was huge discussion about time ago. When you remap 2 keys for spaces (like in example) program doesn't block your press while one of the spaces is already pressed down. Shouldn't it be forbidden?
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: skOrpuz on July 31, 2012, 06:00 PM
it doesnt keep pressed down a key :S is a simple remap as other
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Kaleu on July 31, 2012, 07:38 PM
I tried example commands and Z became a macro?? wtf o0
left win not working btw, ill use custom remap key.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Maciej on July 31, 2012, 07:53 PM
it doesnt keep pressed down a key :S is a simple remap as other

em, I don't know what you mean here, but check this, and compare with KeyChanger for example. This module allow you to press space, while you keep pressed other one, while KC doesn't. That's why smok and sniper were banned, it stands for cheat.
MI, any word here?
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Aerox on July 31, 2012, 07:55 PM
it doesnt keep pressed down a key :S is a simple remap as other

em, I don't know what you mean here, but check this, and compare with KeyChanger for example. This module allow you to press space, while you keep pressed other one, while KC doesn't. That's why smok and sniper were banned, it stands for cheat.
MI, any word here?
shut up dude this can be done with any key remapper already available for download
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: skOrpuz on July 31, 2012, 07:57 PM
anyway it doesnt change what i do. i always use z to tap and that's all  ;)
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Maciej on July 31, 2012, 08:16 PM
it doesnt keep pressed down a key :S is a simple remap as other

em, I don't know what you mean here, but check this, and compare with KeyChanger for example. This module allow you to press space, while you keep pressed other one, while KC doesn't. That's why smok and sniper were banned, it stands for cheat.
MI, any word here?
shut up dude this can be done with any key remapper already available for download

It can't be done with KC for example. And it doesn't change it's forbidden ;)

Yeah Scorp, it changes nothing if you use 1 space.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Aerox on July 31, 2012, 08:24 PM
it doesnt keep pressed down a key :S is a simple remap as other

em, I don't know what you mean here, but check this, and compare with KeyChanger for example. This module allow you to press space, while you keep pressed other one, while KC doesn't. That's why smok and sniper were banned, it stands for cheat.
MI, any word here?
shut up dude this can be done with any key remapper already available for download

It can't be done with KC for example. And it doesn't change it's forbidden ;)

Yeah Scorp, it changes nothing if you use 1 space.

yes it can.
remap x to space
remap z to space

tada, 2 spacebars

not.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: skOrpuz on July 31, 2012, 09:03 PM
naah ropa, i dont know how to play with 2 space :P
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Masta on July 31, 2012, 09:56 PM
excellent module, took me some time to figure out the right numbers for the buttons, though, but it was worth it, thx kawoosh. :)
i have a norwegian keyboard "æøå" messed with me. x)
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Impossible on July 31, 2012, 10:22 PM
AAHAHAhahah!@Hhah1idsahaahsadasd\ kaleu!
delete wk double shopper dll
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: van on July 31, 2012, 10:43 PM
Maciej is right, it allows for pressing 2nd key while the first one is still being pressed.
More here: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/using-autohotkey-is-considered-as-a-cheat/
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Impossible on July 31, 2012, 11:04 PM
Ill explain something..
when you remap with non-module program  you put 1 space on 2 buttoms, BUT those 2 buttoms is working as 1 space! this means that if you pressed one of the buttom you cant press another because in fact you pressed space and while it pressed you trying to press one more time, thats why it doesnt working.
Here it change the game mechanic, it makes 2 spaces, for each buttom, and when you press any, it makes new response. So yea, lol, this makes it easier then usual remap, but lets think logically, if WA developers would add setting where you can put few spaces, would they make it so it works as one space? Sure, no! This is just as it should be, and that fr script actually just made remap working the way its must. Its not like this is cheating, its just usual remap programs working terrible on such case
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: StepS on July 31, 2012, 11:07 PM
if this is urgent, we can implement a block (no promises as it's up to Kawoosh).
Tomorrow.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Kaleu on July 31, 2012, 11:16 PM
AAHAHAhahah!@Hhah1idsahaahsadasd\ kaleu!
delete wk double shopper dll

lol what is it?
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Husk on August 01, 2012, 05:02 AM
Ill explain something..
when you remap with non-module program  you put 1 space on 2 buttoms, BUT those 2 buttoms is working as 1 space! this means that if you pressed one of the buttom you cant press another because in fact you pressed space and while it pressed you trying to press one more time, thats why it doesnt working.
Here it change the game mechanic, it makes 2 spaces, for each buttom, and when you press any, it makes new response. So yea, lol, this makes it easier then usual remap, but lets think logically, if WA developers would add setting where you can put few spaces, would they make it so it works as one space? Sure, no! This is just as it should be, and that fr script actually just made remap working the way its must. Its not like this is cheating, its just usual remap programs working terrible on such case

that is exactly why they didn't include such option, because it's cheating.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Maciej on August 01, 2012, 07:27 AM
The problem is that AHK is considered as cheat, and this module works the same way.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: TheKomodo on August 01, 2012, 08:34 AM
Seriously, if this module is something that would allow ANYONE and EVERYONE to press 1 space while another is already being held, that's a good thing in my opinion and it should be allowed lol.

Roping would generally, increase in skill and speed, making more possible, making it more exciting, and more competitive for the extreme.

I only thought it was a problem before because not everyone knew about AHK etc... If this thing was implemented into the next patch of WA for everyone as standard, it'd be an improvement if anything.

Think about it? But then again, most people fear change, including me at times.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: nappy on August 01, 2012, 09:34 AM
Non-blocking spaces? Congratz, you've made another module for cheating, lol.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: StepS on August 01, 2012, 09:42 AM
A block is currently in progress  :)
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Aerox on August 01, 2012, 09:53 AM
if this is urgent, we can implement a block (no promises as it's up to Kawoosh).
Tomorrow.

What a moot effort.
 Like I said, there's a hundred of freeware key board remappers that allow you to remap multiple keys to space without any sort of block.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Maciej on August 01, 2012, 11:55 AM
if this is urgent, we can implement a block (no promises as it's up to Kawoosh).
Tomorrow.

What a moot effort.
 Like I said, there's a hundred of freeware key board remappers that allow you to remap multiple keys to space without any sort of block.

Maybe, but it stands for cheat here. Even if there are kbs with 2 spaces, you still can't press both at once (I haven't checked it, but someone said it), it's something unnatural. There was huge topic about it time ago.
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: Impossible on August 01, 2012, 01:18 PM
Komo, the reason why people wont use it is simple, most fr players who learned this releasing one key before press another will say smth like: "I practised this shit for years and now it not needed? GTFO ITS CHEAT"
A block is currently in progress  :)
hahah you think somebody will download module with block to lock cheating, if he already get cheatish one?
The way who you should do that is when you saw this module is about to cheat, delete it in next moment, and then release new "update" of it and dont tell to all cheaters that there is block because its just like you said this module is cheat, but we will release non-cheat one later
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: StepS on August 01, 2012, 02:37 PM
Maybe, but it stands for cheat here. Even if there are kbs with 2 spaces, you still can't press both at once (I haven't checked it, but someone said it), it's something unnatural. There was huge topic about it time ago.
that's not a cheat
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: StepS on August 01, 2012, 02:39 PM
Maybe, but it stands for cheat here. Even if there are kbs with 2 spaces, you still can't press both at once (I haven't checked it, but someone said it), it's something unnatural. There was huge topic about it time ago.
that's not a cheat.
also, thanks for beginning this flame war, eagle eyed!
Title: Re: File #273: KeyRemap for W:A by Kawoosh
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 01, 2012, 03:11 PM
I'm locking this till the fixed module comes out.