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Leagues => Leagues Complaints => Topic started by: Maciej on June 02, 2012, 05:23 PM

Title: [SOLVED] 112598
Post by: Maciej on June 02, 2012, 05:23 PM
I don't know how lame must be to report free win other's pick. We agreed to play hysteria but I wrote this will be Rocky's and Ropz's scheme, so I wanted to change into bng (I haven't found any rules about it on tus). They refused to play, that's why I'm reporting this. And delete this lie.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: franz on June 03, 2012, 04:53 AM
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-112598/

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-112600/


closing the other complaint threads, keep discussion here, as both games relate to same complaint.


can't clans change their own pick?
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: MonkeyIsland on June 03, 2012, 07:52 AM
Maciej, the pick system does not include players. We DO NOT pick like "TTRR if Free and barman". Who plays for a clan is that clan inner decision. If you are having members issue, that is not your opponent's problem.

CKC and ps, you are both well known clans and you both reported 2 free wins. How about actually getting those done?
play Hysteria as ps's pick but with Maciej and Rocket.
BnG free win is void.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 07:55 AM
Why with me and Rocket? Check chat logs, I have never wanted to play hysteria, it was Ropz! But he left without word. Imo he should play this with Rocket...
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Almog on June 03, 2012, 08:05 AM
to be honest I am sick and tired of being sportsmanlike (or whatever the word is lol) in such situations, with shit attutide players. too many times players or clans avoid my picks (or CKCs picks) for no logical reason, and I rather report a free win than owe them a game

I also dont understand why mods try to make peace between clans/players, rules and rules, and some people learn the hard way

so the question is, -BY RULES- , is that our games ours or not? If yes - we want the free win, if not - void it. But we wont play it again, sorry.

have a nice day and nice week
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 08:36 AM
It was our pick, that's you who make mess.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: MonkeyIsland on June 03, 2012, 08:42 AM
Maciej,
When a football player can't make it to a match, they don't postpone the time until that player is available again, a substitude player fills in. ps had to play hysteria when they had enough players which was you and Rocket. Instead you refused to play, changed the pick and reported a free win, that's why you and Rocket must play in Hysteria. I think I shouldn't mention about the consequences if somebody else alias with your name and play that game.

Almog,
1. Free win was never meant to be a permanent win. It was always like a threat so that the actual game gets done.
2. Despite the fact that I do want to make peace between players, in this case I'm not. Read my reply to Maciej.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: TheKomodo on June 03, 2012, 08:50 AM
Quote from: Almog on June 03, 2012, 08:05 AM
to be honest I am sick and tired of being sportsmanlike (or whatever the word is lol) in such situations, with shit attutide players. too many times players or clans avoid my picks (or CKCs picks) for no logical reason, and I rather report a free win than owe them a game

I also dont understand why mods try to make peace between clans/players, rules and rules, and some people learn the hard way

I totally support this, I agree to such an extent it's the main reason why I hardly play these days, whenever I turnup everyone thinks i'll pick BnG and #AG is suddenly all AFK.

I really wish there was a rule that were to force clans to accept clanners no matter the pick/players/clans available. Why the hell doesn't anyone do something about it lol?
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 09:19 AM
but I could just write 'I have to go, let Ropz and Rocky play', and what then?
And we had same situacion with eS, they wanted to play 3rd ttrr, but respect left. They were still 3 on AG, but they found other clanner instead of playing with us promised ttrr. But I'm not that asshole like ckc to report it.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: fr4nk on June 03, 2012, 09:26 AM
Quote from: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 09:19 AM
but I could just write 'I have to go, let Ropz and Rocky play', and what then?
And we had same situacion with eS, they wanted to play 3rd ttrr, but respect left. They were still 3 on AG, but they found other clanner instead of playing with us promised ttrr. But I'm not that asshole like ckc to report it.

MI keeps writing a thing, and you keep writing another.
Anyway, I've no problem playing it, but he totally refused it, and I don't really want to beg this guy.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 09:48 AM
You will play this with Ropz and Rokcy, not with me.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Hussar on June 03, 2012, 09:58 AM
Its not my business but i just cant understand what a problem is to just playing this game by Maciej,
this is clear example of avoiding. I would keep this free win to CKC.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: fr4nk on June 03, 2012, 09:59 AM
Quote from: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 09:48 AM
You will play this with Ropz and Rokcy, not with me.

Well, he keeps avoiding even in forums, what to do?
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Dulek on June 03, 2012, 10:13 AM
I can play this.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 11:29 AM
Quote from: fr4nk on June 03, 2012, 09:59 AM
Quote from: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 09:48 AM
You will play this with Ropz and Rokcy, not with me.

Well, he keeps avoiding even in forums, what to do?

you are an idiot, from the beginning I keep saying I don't wanna play this, even before the first game.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: fr4nk on June 03, 2012, 11:36 AM
Quote from: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 11:29 AM
Quote from: fr4nk on June 03, 2012, 09:59 AM
Quote from: Maciej on June 03, 2012, 09:48 AM
You will play this with Ropz and Rokcy, not with me.

Well, he keeps avoiding even in forums, what to do?

you are an idiot, from the beginning I keep saying I don't wanna play this, even before the first game.

Oh dude, then you can't understand what mods said? You are just mad.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: avirex on June 03, 2012, 11:47 AM
if not playing a game because they dont have optimal members online happened durring the opponents pick:    then yes, there should be a solid consequence, its obvious avoiding.


but it was ps pick: and as much as some dont feel it morally right, or think its lame... there is no rule on having topick your scheme b4 games start, and there is no rule to sticking to those schemes under any circumstances and absolutely no changing it.


so why did ckc refuse maciej to change his pick? are mods overlooking that??

im just trying to help, because maciej seems to be having trouble expressing himself lol


edit: im not trying to take sides at all, i personally think puciej is an idiot, im just pointing out there is no rule on these situations, and maybe there should be...

like dub said: (i think in a different topic? i dunno) both picks agreed upon b4 game starts: higher rank player/clan picks first.. no exceptions.


Title: Re: 112598
Post by: nino on June 03, 2012, 12:39 PM
puciej give us a break, zippo is gone, why dont u give the community this pleasure too? plz dude plzzzzzzz

ty ae.

Title: Re: 112598
Post by: fr4nk on June 03, 2012, 04:59 PM
Avirex, it's simple: he didn't ask us to play another scheme, or to play it another day, since the player designed to play hysteria has gone. He started to say that it's a boring scheme and that he would only play BnG (even knowing Almog hadn't time). How we could be friendly with someone who's an ass ?
I remember some cases even against mm, where we didn't play a game for some reason, or whatever, but the way was much different.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Almog on June 04, 2012, 04:41 AM
I dont want the the free win anymore just void the bng and hyst and we (I) wont play him ever again thx
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: avirex on June 04, 2012, 11:45 AM
if he was being an ass, i guess i dont blame ya...


i think there should really be a rule made to prevent this from happening...


picks established b4 games start.... highest rank clan picks first (this rule is a big help... so many times its a battle to see who picks first, its pointless)
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Dub-c on June 04, 2012, 03:01 PM
Quote from: avirex on June 04, 2012, 11:45 AM
picks established b4 games start.... highest rank clan picks first (this rule is a big help... so many times its a battle to see who picks first, its pointless)

Title: Re: 112598
Post by: franz on June 04, 2012, 09:12 PM
I could see that being a good new rule, to help speed up those situations. higher overall rank picks first, if needed. otherwise players can agree the other way or mutual picking if they don't care.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Dub-c on June 05, 2012, 12:26 AM
Make it happen Franz! Can't believe this isn't already a rule.
Title: Re: 112598
Post by: Almog on June 05, 2012, 04:27 AM
so can someone just void these 2 free winds and close this thread?