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Title: [SOLVED] Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 10, 2013, 02:14 PM
hello, I played games with Berria and his behaviour is impermissible.

His pick was hysteria, and I chose wxw. He started to comaplin, that playing on that easy map (5 walls) is lame, and everything depends on crates (yeh, while his pick was hysteria).
But it's ok.
He cowed (didn't make any effort to touch wall he stayed close to), and didn't want to skip. He skipped after 2 or 3 turns. But that's nevermind too...
He started to insult me, in really bad way, check this (game #140701):
[inf`Maciej] takze prosze cie zebys gral z zasadami please dude, foolow the rules and skip
[Berria`TDC] ale jestes zjebem you are so f@#!ed up
[Berria`TDC] i chuj wielki ci w dupe cwelu and a big dick (vulgar) in your ass queer (vulgar) (I can't find right equivalents in english near ~vulgar)
[Berria`TDC] maciej is gay
[Berria`TDC] jestes zerem typek you are nothing guy
[Berria`TDC] i chuj ci w dupe ostatni raz gramy dick in your ass we are playing last time

Worth to add is that he was drunk, what he said in first game we played.
I think behave like that is impermissible and should be banned. I hope he will get right punishment.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: van on March 10, 2013, 02:23 PM
Don't worry man, I'll help you out with a bit more accurate translation.

'Maciej, you're so retarded
go suck a bag of dicks, you faggot
Maciej is gay
a complete zero
and go f@#! yourself, this is the last time we're playing vs each other'

Berria you get an applaud for the creativity!
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Impossible on March 10, 2013, 02:25 PM
Cool, now I can insult on polish
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 10, 2013, 02:40 PM
Cool, now I can insult on polish

hahah polish is lenguage of huge possibilities if you mean insulting, there is even created dictionary of polish vulgarisms, they are thousands!
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Hussar on March 10, 2013, 02:49 PM
could u translate the whole conversation ???

it will show something else !



Worth to add is that he was drunk, what he said in first game we played.
I think behave like that is impermissible and should be banned. I hope he will get right punishment.


i donnt wanna even comment this....

in my whole live i didnt even think about trying to do things like u just did man.


ps. i was on hangover but it changes nothing, i would say this for that kind of behaviour even stronger now and i wont say "sorry".
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 10, 2013, 03:10 PM
so let's recup berria:
-you started to complain lame map,
-you cowed,
-you didn't want to skip when I asked about it,
-you started to insult me, while I didn't said any bad word,
have I missed something? :)
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Chelsea on March 10, 2013, 03:20 PM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/scarjo_popcorn.gif)

best topic ever :D

In Poland we have a lot's of nice insults and we have big fantasion to create new ilsults  ;D
Quote
[Berria`TDC] ale jestes zjebem
[Berria`TDC] i chuj wielki ci w dupe cwelu
pwned xD

I will quote my friend Crash "Maciej to taki wiejski boy" xD (Maciej is villager) xD

We in Poland call it:(możesz zabrać czlowieka ze wsi, ale wsi z człowieka nie wyciągniesz) "You can take person from village, but you can'y take village from person"

Villager allways will be  villager  8)
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Impossible on March 10, 2013, 03:39 PM
now open community and call it From Polish with Insults
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Hussar on March 10, 2013, 03:46 PM
so let's recup berria:
-you started to complain lame map,
-you cowed,
-you didn't want to skip when I asked about it,
-you started to insult me, while I didn't said any bad word,
have I missed something? :)

lets start next hundred of smite's.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 10, 2013, 03:50 PM
lol chelsea, it was your suicide showing how idiot you are. You quote berria's insults and you congratulate him, then you call me villager

chelsea the LEGENARY ASSLICKER ;D
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Chelsea on March 10, 2013, 03:53 PM
lol chelsea, it was your suicide showing how idiot you are. You quote berria's insults and you congratulate him, then you call me villager

chelsea the LEGENARY ASSLICKER ;D

typical villager xDD
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Kyho on March 10, 2013, 04:01 PM
I can't believe that you opened topic about  this move. Berria has like 2-3s before he shot this zook. Don't be pathetic lol
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 10, 2013, 04:25 PM
I'm not complaining about cow, lol. What's wrong with you? It's topic about berria's horrible behave.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: ANO on March 10, 2013, 05:03 PM
lol chelsea, it was your suicide showing how idiot you are. You quote berria's insults and you congratulate him, then you call me villager

chelsea the LEGENARY ASSLICKER ;D

you are insulting Chelsea Maciej!!!!!!! Maybe Chelsea should open a topic too.
Btw, people, ADULT people like you, who open complaint like this... let me Applaud Berria everyday starting from now for the words he said to you!!!
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: zippeurfou on March 10, 2013, 06:38 PM
Everyone can have bad days dude common.. Stop being so childish. I have no idea (since I obviously don't speak polish and we have only one side of the story) what really was going on but honestly, was berria so horrible ? Even if he definitely shouldn't have said these words, on some case it is hard to keep its cool.
The nice thing about chelsea is that he realize that he can be annoying sometimes. Knowing berria he wouldn't say that to anyone except he get really really annoyed by someone (even though before this post I wouldn't think he would have care enough in a game to do that).
So, Maciej don't you think at some point you were annoying and that in the end things got a bit too far ?
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 10, 2013, 08:00 PM
I wasn't annoying, I couldn't be annoyed if I was silent, until berria cowed and started to insult me of course.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Statik on March 10, 2013, 08:13 PM
Do you want Berria to be banned? I think it won't happen unless he will start to insult you on forums using polish language... I can call MI ****  ***** on ag, and nothing will happen, cuz it's not related to TuS :)
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Kaleu on March 10, 2013, 08:14 PM
You gave me a nice idea statik
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: rU` on March 10, 2013, 08:15 PM
There's surely something else that goes deeper behind of all of this. I mean, for some reason Berria can't stand you et viceversa.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: ANO on March 10, 2013, 08:18 PM
auhuah Really this game was even not TUS??? but just for fun?

HAUHAUHUAUAUAHUHAUHAUHAUHAUHUAHUAHUHAUHAUHUAHUAHUHAUHAUHAUHUAHUAHUAH

and you have opened a Complaint about this??????

UAHUHAUHAUHUAHAUHUAHUAHUHA
 
Btw, with Berria as you see, one like you... it's a battle lost before to start, we love our little Kurwa Berria. :P
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Hussar on March 10, 2013, 08:49 PM
all is about then i was in front of first wall (0,3 milimetr) at begin my turn. i did my turn perfect, then i atacked him with big time adventage. Maciej was frustrated propably then he fail non stop so he started to forced me to skip for this damn 0,3 mm
( i skipped my turn after some time).

Ok - he was law to do this, but like i said - am playing almost 10 years in worms and no one ever was that ****  to acting just like him.

Am to lazy to translate whole conversation, but there u could see how i gently used word "please" (dont do such things) few times .....
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 10, 2013, 09:17 PM
These were league games, they are related to TUS.
"Insulting other players, people is always disallowed in games and also on our site."
That's why I want punishment for him.


I wasn't frustrated, I was calm and quiet all the games. It was you who started to insult me and got mad.
There is rule about skip in the case of cow, not saying 'please' as you mentioned. I just pleased you to skip then, but you got furious...
I haven't played wxw for ages, I'm inactive nowadays, I played badly all the game. I was bored and wanted to find TUS to have fun. But I found you.....
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: DarkOne on March 10, 2013, 10:55 PM
Dear Maciej,

in your previous complaint (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-complaints/%28solved%29-139397-19592/), I made a
polite request (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-complaints/(solved)-139397-19592/msg158890/#msg158890) for you to read this sticky (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-complaints/read-this-before-posting-11674/) before posting your complaint - if only for the reason that the sticky is literally called:
Quote
Read this before posting

Since this is the second time in a row, I'm afraid I'm going to have to show you this public service announcement:


So before I begin to adress the complaint at hand, let's first clear a couple of things up.

All games have ID numbers as well as their own page. If you have a problem with a certain game, please link us to the page of that game. Example: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-100/
Having a link there makes it easier for us to see the actual game. Since you already mentioned the game number, you could've just as easily linked us to it: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-140701/

Asking us to ban your opponent will not make any difference and in fact will force us to give you a warning (see this thread).
[...]
If you are asking for someone to be banned, then we will follow this thread: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/complaints/regarding-ban-threads/

How does 10% sound?

hello, I played games with Berria and his behaviour is impermissible.

Oh dear!

His pick was hysteria, and I chose wxw. He started to comaplin, that playing on that easy map (5 walls) is lame, and everything depends on crates (yeh, while his pick was hysteria).
If he asks for another map before the game starts, you have to change the map.
The game started though, so he accepted by lighting up.

But it's ok.

ok :)

He cowed (didn't make any effort to touch wall he stayed close to), and didn't want to skip. He skipped after 2 or 3 turns. But that's nevermind too...

Yeah, he did skip, so he paid the price for the cow.

He started to insult me, in really bad way, check this (game #140701):
[inf`Maciej] takze prosze cie zebys gral z zasadami please dude, foolow the rules and skip
[Berria`TDC] ale jestes zjebem you are so f@#!ed up
[Berria`TDC] i chuj wielki ci w dupe cwelu and a big dick (vulgar) in your ass queer (vulgar) (I can't find right equivalents in english near ~vulgar)
[Berria`TDC] maciej is gay
[Berria`TDC] jestes zerem typek you are nothing guy
[Berria`TDC] i chuj ci w dupe ostatni raz gramy dick in your ass we are playing last time

Worth to add is that he was drunk, what he said in first game we played.
I think behave like that is impermissible and should be banned. I hope he will get right punishment.

I think he said he had a hangover, but besides the point.
Can someone translate the polish to english? I can't say I like your reaction, Berria.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: avirex on March 11, 2013, 12:01 AM
GO SUCK A BAG OF DICKS!!! hahahah ! +1
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Free on March 11, 2013, 07:09 AM
In my opinion it's not the same thing to skip from cow after 2-3 turns as it is to skip right away. One could see that he failed a turn and then skip.

So in theory what the rules allow you to do is to not skip until "you feel like skipping" basically.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 11, 2013, 08:02 AM
dear Darkone

there is league rule about not insulting eachother, and it wasn't me who did, but berria, so why the f@#! I got 'watched'?

I don't have to give link to the game, because it's not complaining about game, but bahaviour

Why did I mention ban? Because I have got punishment once for similar behave, I think you must do it, to be fair. Otherway it's favoritism just because he has better reputation then me, or he's your clanmate.

Yes, he skipped, but after few turns when he saw he has got some advantage. I was about leaving the game.

He didn't ask about another map, he started to complain in game. Worth to add is, that we had RM (on the same map), because I thought wxw is played by 4 worms each team. If he really didn't like the map, he would tell it before the RM, don't you think?

I translated it, Van did it too. Do you need someone from TdC to translate into the way you like? Pathetic.

And I don't care if it was 1 minimetr away from wall, or even 0,1. The fact is he didn't make any effort to touch it. I always jumped touching the wall, even if I stayed possibility closest. It always takes you 1-2 sec, and strike you out of the playing rhythm. It was cow, he knew it, and he still used to play. Didn't want to skip.

btw, take off this 'watched' away from me, because you sticked wrong player. Do I really have to join TdC to be fairly assessed in league complaints?

Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Chelsea on March 11, 2013, 08:07 AM
lolo, my little dear Maciej, you are so funny, drama guy xD

 ;D
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: ANO on March 11, 2013, 08:56 AM
Berria is a cool and fair guy, he has a good and long reputation, he can offends people like you unless he uses creative words.
You can open complaint like this only about people really annoying and who are used to do such things (Asbest).
But about Berria, come on!!! How old are you???? more then 20 for sure judging from yr skinny photos... you'd better to feel ashamed!!! Or do you have old fights with Berria which we don't know? if it's personal, keep up away from yr own rage.


Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Hussar on March 11, 2013, 09:06 AM
[Berria`TDC] he typed 4 worms insted of 3
[Berria`TDC] lets see how can i rope on hangover
[Berria`TDC] wszystko tutaj zalezy od paczek      it all depends on crates
[Berria`TDC] bez sensu      meaningless                                   
[inf`Maciej] kto hysterie dal?      who just pickhysteria?
[inf`Maciej] nie dotknales sciany      u didnt touched wall
[Berria`TDC] dotknolem      i did
[inf`Maciej] pierwszej      first one
[inf`Maciej] kolego      "buddy"
[Berria`TDC] no kurwa     
[Berria`TDC] nbie przypierdalajs ie o pierdoly      (hard to translate - its mean something about - stop lookin on such small things)
[Berria`TDC] chcesz zebym wylazl      do u want me to quit?
[Berria`TDC] raportniesz toi bedziemy tozyc walke na posty?      you will raport this game and then we will start to fighting on forum?
[Berria`TDC] oszczec mi tego      save/spare me from this
[inf`Maciej] nie dotknale ssciay      u didnt touched that wall
[inf`Maciej] ja sie specjalnie odsuwalem i podkaoczylem zeby dotknac, ty sie nawet nie odwrociles      i just moved forrward, then jumped to touch wall, and u didnt even turned back
[inf`Maciej] skipnij w nastepnej albo zloze vomplaina      skip in next turn or i ll make complain
[Berria`TDC] prosze cie      please man
[inf`Maciej] complaina*
[Berria`TDC] jak czlowieka     as human
[Berria`TDC] bedziesz specjalnie kurwa walczyl o ten jebany minimetr      you will be f@#!in specially make war about that minimetr?
[Berria`TDC] przeciez mialem w chuj czasu zeby to kurwa zrobic      i had many many time to do it
[inf`Maciej] ale nie zrobiles      but u didnt
[Berria`TDC] prosze      please
[inf`Maciej] takze prosze cie zebys gral z zasadami      please play with rules
[inf`Maciej] czyli nie skipniesz?      so u dont wanna skip?
[Berria`TDC] kurwa mac skipne      kurwa i ll skip
[Berria`TDC] ale jestes zjebem      you are so f@#!ed up
[Berria`TDC] i chuj wielki ci w dupe cwelu      and a big dick in your ass queer
[Berria`TDC] i will skip in next turn   
[`69`Sbaffo] what's happening?
[Berria`TDC] maciej is gay
[inf`Maciej] nie potrafisz sie zachowac widze     you can't behave well i see
[`69`Sbaffo] oh shit
[`69`Sbaffo] how you can't love pussy maciej?
[Berria`TDC] i had turn when i was in front of wall
[Berria`TDC] 1minimetr
[Berria`TDC] and he forced me tu skip
[Berria`TDC] coz hes faloling non stop
[`69`Sbaffo] that's why i usually don't pick schemes when my opponent isn't fair
[`69`Sbaffo] btw u're drunk damn
[Berria`TDC] but
[Berria`TDC] am fair
[`69`Sbaffo] ah yeah, u didn't pick it
[Berria`TDC] hes statament is allweys gey
[Berria`TDC] u should saw it
[Berria`TDC] chcialem byc mily - prosilem     i wanted be gently - I begged you
[Berria`TDC] jednak widze ze sie nic nie zmieniles      but i see then u didnt changed yourself
[Berria`TDC] nigdy bym nie pomyslal nawet zeby ci zwrocic o to uwage      i never ever could even think about to forcing u to do it
[inf`Maciej] sluchaj, zagrales niezgodnie z przepisami i zaczale smnie wyzywac idioto      listen, u did move agaist rules and u started to insult me idiot
[inf`Maciej] do tego jestes pijany      and u are drunk
[inf`Maciej] albo po prostu taki jestes, nie wiem      or u are just that kind of person, i dont know
[inf`Maciej] chuj mnie to obchodzisz      f@#! i dont care
[Berria`TDC] tym sie roznimy      so here we are different
[Berria`TDC] jestes zerem typek      u are nothin guy
[Berria`TDC] i chuj ci w dupe ostatni raz gramy      dick in your ass we are playing last time
[Berria`TDC] najpierw prosilem      at first i just asked u
[Berria`TDC] niezdarza mi sie wyzywac nikogo      i never insult anyone
[Berria`TDC] to ze jestempjany fakt, wzmorzylo tylko moja reakcje      fact then i am drunk maybe just increased my reaction
[inf`Maciej] wlasnie widze      i just see
[Berria`TDC] aczkolwiek w dalszym ciagu wedlug mnie sluszna     although i still think then it was right
[inf`Maciej] kulturalny czlowiek      cultured man[/b]
[Berria`TDC] nigdy odkad gram nigdy sie nie zachowalem tak jak ty teraz      since am playing i never behave like you right now
[Berria`TDC] moze to ci cos uswiadomi     maybe it will help to understand something
[inf`Maciej] narazie uswiadomiles mi tyle ze matka cie nie wychowala      for now i just know  then mother didnt educate you
[Berria`TDC] to twoje zdanie      this is your opinion
[inf`Maciej] dobra, dlasze gra nie ma sensu, gg frajerze      ok, continue game have no sense, gg faggot



my english isnt that good but it wasnt hard to translate i think. i know then i am one from sides here but i tryed to translate it
as much objectively as i could.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 11, 2013, 10:12 AM

[Berria`TDC] no kurwa      vulgar
[Berria`TDC] nbie przypierdalajs ie o pierdoly      (hard to translate - its mean something about - stop lookin on such small things)   vulgar
[Berria`TDC] przeciez mialem w chuj czasu zeby to kurwa zrobic      i had many many time to do it        twice vulgar

my english isnt that good but it wasnt hard to translate i think. i know then i am one from sides here but i tryed to translate it
as much objectively as i could.

for more: "dotknolem", "oszczec", "minimetry"
You don't know only english well, but polish...

next time take look at your vulgars too, not only mine ;) There are more for sure, but I'm too lazy to read that whole conversation
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Hussar on March 11, 2013, 10:46 AM
99% of ppl here know u as a **** and nothin will change this fact. so keep talkin....


and words "kurwa" is just an addition to whole sentence, not at all directed in ur side in that case.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 11, 2013, 11:03 AM
99% of ppl here know u as a **** and nothin will change this fact. so keep talkin....


and words "kurwa" is just an addition to whole sentence, not at all directed in ur side in that case.

It doesn't change I have right here. You can check my last games, I have changed myself about behave in game, and I'm not annoying anymore. I just stay silent instead of getting into flame wars and complainings as I used to (same in this game with you). You just use my bad reputation to destroy it even more.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Hussar on March 11, 2013, 11:17 AM
come on, u starrted fight on details coz u was mad after ur fail turns during whole game...... kid....
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Maciej on March 11, 2013, 11:28 AM
I wasn't frustrated, I was calm and quiet all the games. It was you who started to insult me and got mad.
There is rule about skip in the case of cow, not saying 'please' as you mentioned. I just pleased you to skip then, but you got furious...
I haven't played wxw for ages, I'm inactive nowadays, I played badly all the game. I was bored and wanted to find TUS to have fun. But I found you.....

If I was kid, I would react and behave like you, but I still stayed peace and quiet.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: DarkOne on March 11, 2013, 03:37 PM
there is league rule about not insulting eachother, and it wasn't me who did, but berria, so why the f@#! I got 'watched'?

I answered that question. It's also mentioned in 2stickies. We put up that rule because we were being flooded by "ban him!" threads and we've kind of had enough of that. I'm not going to make exceptions. If Berria had asked us to ban you, I would've warned him just the same.
Also, the complaint is not marked 'solved', so it's still ongoing. You can complain about the outcome after it has been resolved. Considering I'm in Berria's clan, I think it would be only fair that I ask MI for his opinion - which is what I'll do.
The reason I posted the way I did is because you clearly have not read the sticky/stickies - again.

I don't have to give link to the game, because it's not complaining about game, but bahaviour.

Irrelevant, it's still a complaint. We ask for links in the sticky when it comes to complaints.

Why did I mention ban? Because I have got punishment once for similar behave, I think you must do it, to be fair. Otherway it's favoritism just because he has better reputation then me, or he's your clanmate.

You're free to complain about behaviour, which is why I haven't closed this complaint.

Yes, he skipped, but after few turns when he saw he has got some advantage. I was about leaving the game.

He didn't ask about another map, he started to complain in game. Worth to add is, that we had RM (on the same map), because I thought wxw is played by 4 worms each team. If he really didn't like the map, he would tell it before the RM, don't you think?

I merely stated what should be done with regards to complaints about maps. If he lights up, then he agrees on the map. If you had won, and he had made a complaint, because he didn't like the map, the game would stand.

I translated it, Van did it too. Do you need someone from TdC to translate into the way you like? Pathetic.

Considering the complaint is about behaviour, as you pointed out, I wanted to see the whole thing translated. If someone were to constantly insult you for a whole game (in polish) and then you call him a pathetic loser once, he could complain about your behaviour and only translate what you said. So if I were to give you a warning for just that comment, I think that would be pathetic and you know what? I'd be banning the wrong person then.
I see that Berria already translated the whole thing and that you have commented on his translations. Now I have something to work with.

And I don't care if it was 1 minimetr away from wall, or even 0,1. The fact is he didn't make any effort to touch it. I always jumped touching the wall, even if I stayed possibility closest. It always takes you 1-2 sec, and strike you out of the playing rhythm. It was cow, he knew it, and he still used to play. Didn't want to skip.
I watched the whole game, actually. Berria didn't jump at all if he were close to that wall, but I saw you not jump once as well. Personally, I'd jump too, because then there's no doubt. Berria, could you please do that too from now on? Saves us possible complaints.

btw, take off this 'watched' away from me, because you sticked wrong player. Do I really have to join TdC to be fairly assessed in league complaints?

I already explained to you why I gave you the watched status. I also gave you a reason, including a link where you can read why I gave you the warning - but who am I kidding? You're not going to read it. You're Maciej, dammit! Your opinion is law! You already know what's going to happen with this complaint before it's even tagged solved! And anyone talking back to you is obviously biased.

All of that aside. I want to make a good decision when I handle complaints. That means I need all the information. This is why we ask for it all. This is why I asked for the translation of it all. It takes me a lot of time, too, especially if someone is being a smartass during the complaint, so I don't mind telling you that my patience with people who don't cooperate is wearing very, very thin. I also don't like being called biased before I'm even done with complaint handling, mainly because people have been doing that for years, dating back to the times of RRkit.
Despite this, I will still talk with MI about this and do what is appropriate.
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: Hussar on March 11, 2013, 03:51 PM
I watched the whole game, actually. Berria didn't jump at all if he were close to that wall, but I saw you not jump once as well. Personally, I'd jump too, because then there's no doubt. Berria, could you please do that too from now on? Saves us possible complaints.


Sure i will from now coz there can be someone other just like him  :o
Title: Re: Berria
Post by: MonkeyIsland on March 13, 2013, 08:11 PM
Maciej,
It is great that you are holding yourself not to insult back. I do appreciate that. But while you're on that, you might as well learn some sportsmanship? I checked out the replay back and forth a few times to see what's going on. The cow is so negligible, it's not even worth mentioning. This kind of stuff is a huge turn off for your opponent and the exact kind of thing that makes people to avoid you.

Berria,
Being drunk/hung-over is no excuse for that kind of language. However this was your very first time, you're officially warned.