hey, we won that rr playoffs of season 10...
i did time 88 as u can see clearly, and dibz 79. what means we won by 1 sec
mods pls check it asap
Actually, we won, get over it, it's just a game.
check the replay komo, u lost not win
99999 ckc's against 3 dohs and need some cheat?
wtf?
If Dibz had 80, CkC won, if he had 79. DoH won.
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I think you should have a tie breaker with the same persons on a much longer and harder level so that the diffrence in time will become more obvius..
That's the least than the mods can tell.
Quote from: Crash on June 14, 2010, 11:25 AM
check the replay komo, u lost not win
Actually, unless you, and zippo are the most retarded, brainless, stupid people on earth that doesn't understand basic mathematics and basic numbers, with the in-game provided milliseconds, which are THERE FOR A REASON ! - we got a faster time with all best times added, IF the TuS rules would state games are not recorded by MS (which it doesn't by the way, the rules says "Best overall time wins")
It does not say "Best time rounded up to the closest full second number so the clan that didn't actually get the fastest time, but rounds up to a faster time can win even though they didn't really win"...
You can argue all you want, you can cry, get angry, get upset, get jealous, try and seek revenge, get depressed, I don't care, you CANNOT change time and physics, 0.04 of a second is still time, people's lifes I am sure have been saved by a fraction less of this time, which is 0.04 of a second faster than your teams overall time.
Trust me, time matters.
At the end of the day, I measure this game by TRUE time, that is supplied by MS.
I wouldn't care, IF crash wasn't such a pain in the ass waiting for the best time to try and do the playoffs without me not being there so I couldn't BnG, or if he didn't bail on us after already admitting he had time to play before then bailed when we mentioned BnG, or leave us hanging the other countless times, OR trying to get playoffs done with the players of CKC that HE thinks are not as good as the rest so they have a better chance of winning, it's pathetic.
The proof is there that CKC won by 0.04 seconds, do not try and deny it or you will look even more stupid.
dibz - do not have a problem with you, you wanted to play the playoffs at anytime.
Even Zippo was cool about the playoffs and didn't act like an idiot.
Crash, you need to take a lesson from your clanmates, before they get fed up with you, seriously.
In all honesty, RR league games have never been about milliseconds. I get your point though Dave.
Quote from: darKz on June 14, 2010, 01:25 PM
In all honesty, RR league games have never been about milliseconds. I get your point though Dave.
Actually, they did used to be, especially on FB, quite a number of games were settled with the MS time, I remember personally winning a few/losing a few, with MS times, I remember when you could watch your replays at the same time as playing the game so you could check specific times before reporting and deciding who won, but leagues changed after I pointed out in a T17 that you can open up the game, and fast forward to find out what crates your opponent picked up to give you an OBVIOUS advantage, thats when DeadCode or CyberShadow re-coded the patches or whatever so you couldn't do this anymore, no one even thanked me for it...
And I personally think it should be settled with the MS time from now on.
Of course, it's better to have a clear winner, save not having stupid arguements like this lol
I'd say rematch.
Darkz said it all.
Can I ask, what is wrong with using MS as the final time, when people finish on the same second?
Is it to give the loser another chance to win?
Is it not, without a doubt, a faster, more efficient and fair way of clearly seeing who won?
I'm personally ok with them all having a re-match, if they all agree, but it is EXTREMELY unfair and demeaning to have a re-match, after all the time we have waited, and kept CF waiting, all the crap we have been through, to play it again when there is a clear winner with MS times.
Quote from: Komo on June 14, 2010, 02:01 PM
Can I ask, what is wrong with using MS as the final time, when people finish on the same second?
Nothing wrong with that, could make it a rule for next season but as of right now it seems unfair to rely on milliseconds - kinda out of the blue, you get what I mean. :)
Current "traditional" rules say rematch if the second count of both teams are the same.
ckc didnt win that rr
lol miliseconds? nah
rules say about seconds
if u want to make this rule it cant be for this season
We told doh to rematch this game right after the rr but they obviously refused to play any rematch. While t17 was played I had a conversation with DarkOne where he decided that our times were better (167 vs 168). Then doh, without any complaint, asked for a rematch game which was very weird assuming to how much they fought with their '100% win' at the beginning. This clearly shows how doh wanted to fool us with their tricks - firstly claiming it's their win and refusing to rm and then, after moderator's decision, begging for it. Shame on you.
dulek did u check my turn? i did 88 there
we should rm this..
and mablak did 55.98? ridicious lol
Quote from: darKz on June 14, 2010, 01:25 PM
In all honesty, RR league games have never been about milliseconds. I get your point though Dave.
darKz is right.
I checked the replay and times are as follows:
Dulek: 82
Crash: 89
Mablak: 85 (he touched the 'h' letter at 85.98)
Dibz: This one is the trickiest. It certanly isn't 79 (as crash might say), and to me personally, the 'touch' in 80 second doesn't seem like a touch to me, so the actuall time would be 81 (81.76). But let's assume it was 80.
So:
82 + 85 = 167 for CKC.
80 + 89 = 169 for doH.
I'll leave this open if any other mod wants to add something.
Like dulek said.
We gave doh the chance to rematch. They refused. We went to a mod directly. He decided that it was CKC's win.. Then they asked for rematch when they realised they lost. Now they complain.
Well, actually, Rok, I thought Dibz touched the side of the h, since you can see his worm slow down at that point, though I agree that it's difficult to see.
That would make doH's total time 168, which is still slower than CKC, so it really won't matter.
When Dulek sent me the replay, he said you did 89, crash, and that there was no disagreement there. So I didn't check that turn myself.
However, Rok confirms it's 89, so again, I'm not checking your turn.
On another note...
Komo, stop writing posts that, there's no need for it. If it were Zippo posting like that, we would've had several complaints by now and we will not work with double standards here.
Crash simply made a complaint about an important game that had a very close ending and he's entitled to do so. His post was less than subtile, admittedly, but it did not warrant the kind of response he got from you.
It's fine if you state your opinion, but flamewars are not the way to do it. I already asked you not to post like this about a week ago and I don't like that you still did it anyway. There are plenty of people that show their opinion without the need to do it the wrestlemania way.
K. gg's CKC
Quote from: DarkOne on June 14, 2010, 06:45 PM
Komo, stop writing posts that, there's no need for it. If it were Zippo posting like that, we would've had several complaints by now and we will not work with double standards here.
Monkey, that's because Zippo done it like 10 times a day, every day, I do it when I have to, end of story.
You know i'm right.
Quote from: darKz on June 14, 2010, 02:09 PM
Quote from: Komo on June 14, 2010, 02:01 PM
Can I ask, what is wrong with using MS as the final time, when people finish on the same second?
Nothing wrong with that, could make it a rule for next season but as of right now it seems unfair to rely on milliseconds - kinda out of the blue, you get what I mean. :)
Current "traditional" rules say rematch if the second count of both teams are the same.
Sorry for the double post, I just woke up, and i'm in a hurry lol, anyway, I completely agree with this Rene, anyone else agree?
And crash, 85.98 is like 79.80 rounded up it's 86 and 80, but it still finished on the second before.
hahahaha soo nice!!
85,98 of the mablak is 85...
79,96 of dibz is 80 XDD
nice mathematics komo ;*
nice mathematics too rok XD
crash does 88.
Why not flip coins xDDD
Hey, I just had a look at this topic.
First of all, I think a worm finishes at a roperace, when its hitbox hit the land whichc is being marked as the finish. In this map, its the letters of the word itself (like both side accepted at the start).
This means that touching the line under the word doesnt mean finishing the map.
Based on this I had a look at the times:
Crash: 89.06
Dulek: 82.82
Dibz: 80.90(hits the line at 79.58, but this isnt finishing)
Mablak: really tough to say. its either 85.98 or 86.00
but anyway: doH has 80+89 = 169 and CKC has 82+85/86 = 167/168, so I think that CKC wins.
But we should definetly have some clear somment on what finishing at a rr map means (hanging on rope is allowed? what means touching? just the sprite or does the hitbox of the worm have to touch the finish?) to avoid these discussions in the future.
And btw: I think millisecs shouldnt count if draw. (There should also be a rule for this :P )
Quote from: Random00 on June 14, 2010, 10:49 PM
Hey, I just had a look at this topic.
First of all, I think a worm finishes at a roperace, when its hitbox hit the land whichc is being marked as the finish. In this map, its the letters of the word itself (like both side accepted at the start).
This means that touching the line under the word doesnt mean finishing the map.
Based on this I had a look at the times:
Crash: 89.06
Dulek: 82.82
Dibz: 80.90(hits the line at 79.58, but this isnt finishing)
Mablak: really tough to say. its either 85.98 or 86.00
but anyway: doH has 80+89 = 169 and CKC has 82+85/86 = 167/168, so I think that CKC wins.
But we should definetly have some clear somment on what finishing at a rr map means (hanging on rope is allowed? what means touching? just the sprite or does the hitbox of the worm have to touch the finish?) to avoid these discussions in the future.
And btw: I think millisecs shouldnt count if draw. (There should also be a rule for this :P )
we should just avouid those players.
it was alwys like it is, so what?lets just avoid them.
i think that milissecond should count.... i mean... what else is the replays for??? i did not look at the replay yet.. but obviously ckc won (according to all the posts) (gg crash)
but seriously, why have replays??? sporting events use replays in case a ref. makes a bad call... thats why w:a has a replays, so mod's can make correct calls.... OF COURS MILLISECONDS COUNT... case closed IMO
Quote from: Random00 on June 14, 2010, 10:49 PM
Dibz: 80.90(hits the line at 79.58, but this isnt finishing)
And btw: I think millisecs shouldnt count if draw. (There should also be a rule for this :P )
mablak say in the game....
hit the line or any letters...!
dibz hit "h" in 79.58
avirex...not all posts...!!
spw say doh wins...
and others guys too...
and mablak do 86 not 85.98
just watched the replay.... crash said "i need to do better then 89" in private msg to dibz... he knew if he did not beat his time, he lost..... lol.. gg doh.
nah better than 89 for wins!!
he did 88,9
Quote from: ZiPpO on June 14, 2010, 08:45 PM
hahahaha soo nice!!
85,98 of the mablak is 85...
79,96 of dibz is 80 XDD
nice mathematics komo ;*
nice mathematics too rok XD
crash does 88.
Actually I said 86 & 80 not 85 and 80
it shuould be a draw mods..
check the times for all again.
i touch the letter " H " it's 88
and dibz it's 79
mablak and dulek rematch it? or are you so happy of this win?
be men and replay it.
mablak did 85.98 it's like 86
Can someone make a decision and stick with it please?
Quote from: Komo on June 15, 2010, 12:17 PM
Can someone make a decision and stick with it please?
In case you missed the relevant stuff:
Quote from: Rok on June 14, 2010, 05:15 PM
So:
82 + 85 = 167 for CKC.
80 + 89 = 169 for doH.
Quote from: DarkOne on June 14, 2010, 06:45 PM
Well, actually, Rok, I thought Dibz touched the side of the h, since you can see his worm slow down at that point, though I agree that it's difficult to see.
That would make doH's total time 168, which is still slower than CKC, so it really won't matter.
Quote from: dibz on June 14, 2010, 06:54 PM
K. gg's CKC
*locked*