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Title: [SOLVED] Game #131089
Post by: barman on November 20, 2012, 08:33 PM
Game not finished. Chelsea's partner dropped in a key moment, giving Chelsea a huge turn advatage.
We'd like a fresh start, chances were quite equal prior to the drop.
We also have an unfinished TTRR (our pick), because dibz dropped.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Chelsea on November 20, 2012, 08:35 PM
Quote from: barman on November 20, 2012, 08:33 PM
Game not finished. Chelsea's partner dropped in a key moment, giving Chelsea a huge turn advatage.
We'd like a fresh start, chances were quite equal prior to the drop.
We also have an unfinished TTRR (our pick), because dibz dropped.

you plooped my worm = agred to continuume play, so I agred too and played 1 vs 2

same sitaution was here:
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-104986/
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Peja on November 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
all i see is dt asking for rm:)
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Chelsea on November 20, 2012, 08:40 PM
Quote from: Peja on November 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
all i see is dt asking for rm:)

asked but still played so I not accepted ^^
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: franz on November 20, 2012, 11:27 PM
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-131089/

dt is still free to ask nicely (Chelsea seems to currently not accept though)

the torch kill in my eyes is a clear aggressive move to continue, despite the clanmate asking to rh. unless there's mutual agreement to try a rh, I'd say it stands, but I also encourage other mods to post.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: avirex on November 21, 2012, 01:25 AM
barman asked to RH even before he torched...


i honestly think thats a bad decision franz...

you should reconsider that one...


if barman was asking for RH after the death, then i can understand, but c'mon.. lol
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: OrangE on November 21, 2012, 01:27 AM
Quote from: franz on November 20, 2012, 11:27 PM
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-131089/

dt is still free to ask nicely (Chelsea seems to currently not accept though)

the torch kill in my eyes is a clear aggressive move to continue, despite the clanmate asking to rh. unless there's mutual agreement to try a rh, I'd say it stands, but I also encourage other mods to post.

i've always agreed with the other team to continue the game using the chat.
it's so obvious, especially in hyst, we can't count an "aggressive move" as the willing to continue the game. its so clear that if the move will cause serious damage to the opponent he will not continue, if not he will just go ahead (if having some advantage). so this situation should be ruled by an explicit agreement, not just by "feelings", to avoid these situations. that is what i have always done, using the chat. it's so f@#!ing simple.

i was sure this was clear and obvious but probably it's not.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: OrangE on November 21, 2012, 01:28 AM
Quote from: avirex on November 21, 2012, 01:25 AM
barman asked to RH even before he torched...


i honestly think thats a bad decision franz...

you should reconsider that one...


if barman was asking for RH after the death, then i can understand, but c'mon.. lol

that is what i said to chelsea all the time, but he kept closing his ears like a kid.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: MonkeyIsland on November 21, 2012, 05:33 AM
Normally in such cases, there are a lot of chats going on, pointing to the fact that they will continue the game but there'll be also a complaint. In this case the only thing we have is "rh?" or "he is not in AG".

barman asks rh, but since he knows it is undecided, he chooses to play as he normally would. He kills with torch but he also chose the worst hide knowing the next turn is Chelsea's. He could just walk right and hide in the hole then argue on whether rm or not. In other words, you can't put yourself in the most dangerous position (tempting to kill for your opponent) and expect a rm. To me the game must stand too. Would you like for another mod to kick in?
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Chelsea on November 21, 2012, 08:04 AM
thx Franz and MI  :-*

(http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/10/19/129004267162105611.jpg)

Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: barman on November 21, 2012, 09:54 AM
Can you just tell me what would be the correct move in such situation? Should I have simply hit alt+f4 before doing anything else?

I torched because I was not prepared for such a sudden change of a worm order, our plan was totally different. The game was ruined by the drop and we were expecting RwA to see it.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Chelsea on November 21, 2012, 11:06 AM
Quote from: barman on November 21, 2012, 09:54 AM
Can you just tell me what would be the correct move in such situation? Should I have simply hit alt+f4 before doing anything else?

I torched because I was not prepared for such a sudden change of a worm order, our plan was totally different. The game was ruined by the drop and we were expecting RwA to see it.

just say rh and alt f4 or shot yourself say rh and alt f4...
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Husk on November 21, 2012, 11:45 AM
Quote from: Chelsea on November 21, 2012, 11:06 AM
Quote from: barman on November 21, 2012, 09:54 AM
Can you just tell me what would be the correct move in such situation? Should I have simply hit alt+f4 before doing anything else?

I torched because I was not prepared for such a sudden change of a worm order, our plan was totally different. The game was ruined by the drop and we were expecting RwA to see it.

just say rh and alt f4 or shot yourself say rh and alt f4...

isn't that exactly the opposite of what MI keeps telling us? I remember reading that the game should be continued and not alt f4'ed and complain after game
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: avirex on November 21, 2012, 12:54 PM
if you actually let this game stand your creating a huge mess....


is dropping out of hyst going to be the next strategy? oh cant wait!!

"tele rape, tele rape, tele rape, alt f4"



ok, your the mods for a reason... game stands, gj chelsea
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Chelsea on November 21, 2012, 01:28 PM
Quote from: avirex on November 21, 2012, 12:54 PM
game stands, gj chelsea

thx  ;)
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: blitzed on November 21, 2012, 01:47 PM
lets replay the ttrr tho ;o
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: OrangE on November 21, 2012, 01:50 PM
Quote from: barman on November 21, 2012, 09:54 AM
Can you just tell me what would be the correct move in such situation? Should I have simply hit alt+f4 before doing anything else?

I torched because I was not prepared for such a sudden change of a worm order, our plan was totally different. The game was ruined by the drop and we were expecting RwA to see it.

so obvious, i really can't believe you guys don't understand.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Peja on December 03, 2012, 10:30 PM
btw thanks for creating a huge mess through this complaint.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-132324/

i had no f@#!ing idea what to do, i asked for rh he doesnt answer. i was so f@#!ing scared of doing an agressive move so i just jumped. he just played on and abused.

i want a f@#!ing decision what to do in such situations and i want it f@#!ing now and for all time. if i quit the other may complain and get the win, if i ask for rehost i get f@#!ing abused and maybe the slighest move gets called agressive so a game stands. if i just keep playing every dumbass will be f@#!ing happy  when his teammate disconnects.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: ANO on December 03, 2012, 10:40 PM
Peja, just play. If someone wnats a rh they ABSOLUTELY has to say it immediately, not after some turns. Btw he said @it s ok@ even if he said after some turns and he didn t skip. However he had to skip because yu lost a turn to wait for him, he didn t...
Btw, we won cause we are better uahuah
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: Peja on December 03, 2012, 11:15 PM
u dont get it ano, if we just go on some players (wont mention any name, but its a girls name for sure) will always abuse it to their favor. i dont want to have any disadvantage because the other team is having a disconnect.
Title: Re: Game #131089
Post by: franz on December 03, 2012, 11:18 PM
I would've just left and rehosted Peja, I don't think MI's advice to always continue playing is valid advice in every scenario