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Title: [SOLVED] people avoiding schems
Post by: Agneau on July 08, 2010, 02:41 PM
long time i want to make this topic,

some ppl in tus avoid schems

for example if u say to renatoSL u pick rr, he says i dont play rr and dont tus :|

same for banca7t

i means thats stupid all the interest of tus is to become a good allrounder and improve where u are weak!

if each time some1 picks bng ppl say sry but i suck at it i dont play that, komo would have nobody to own!

in tus u have to respect any choice of schem even if u hate it, that's what i think
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: nino on July 08, 2010, 03:25 PM
ye i agree agneau and i think if someone avoid, there should atleast have a button, then you report as not played cos opponent refused your pick.
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: TheKomodo on July 08, 2010, 04:42 PM
I believe I am the winner of the "Most avoided" victim award, for people not wanting to play BnG...  Seriously lol
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: Csongi on July 08, 2010, 04:54 PM
well if ur opponent says he won't play X scheme if u tus with him,BEFORE u start playing any of the pick's is still not that bad
true that avoiding any of the schemes is lame but...some ppl will neva EVA neva EVA neva EVA will change xDDD
and if u play ur opponents pick and he don't want to play the scheme u picked,that's just lack of good-breeding.
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: beer on July 08, 2010, 05:12 PM
i do avoid bng since i dnt realy enjoy it and i guess will never enjoy..
but i say that at start, not big deal.. whats the point of play something that ill not hf?
but i got u agneau, they avoid cose they dont wanna lose on it, i do cose i dnt ENJOY, i guess its diferent
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: SPW on July 08, 2010, 05:21 PM
ye i agree agneau and i think if someone avoid, there should atleast have a button, then you report as not played cos opponent refused your pick.

this.

Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: beer on July 08, 2010, 05:26 PM
its annoying, but if u say before any game isnt that bad.. as i said ill keep avoiding bng, as CF avoid rr when u play for exemple, or as CKC avoid rr also when chicken plays..
whats the deal?
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: TheKomodo on July 08, 2010, 06:45 PM
Well, Chicken avoids TTRR not CKC lol, I avoid TTRR for clanners too lol In fact i'll try to avoid anything except BnG in clanners, but in SINGLES ! i'll do anything :D
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: beer on July 08, 2010, 06:54 PM
Well, Chicken avoids TTRR not CKC lol, I avoid TTRR for clanners too lol In fact i'll try to avoid anything except BnG in clanners, but in SINGLES ! i'll do anything :D
if he does CKC does too.

just let it be.. evryone does or done it.. it must be said at start thats all.. if u dnt like u can not play him. ez
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: Chicken23 on July 08, 2010, 08:07 PM
Everyone avoids me in TTRR you mean? Thats why i never get to play in them.

I don't look for clanners with just 1 other member because people will pick my weakness. That topic came up of me asking for no RR clanners and since then i don't bother looking for clanners when im not prepared to play someones pick.

diana has recently been avoiding bngs. cfc asking in ag for clanners, then ask what we pick and say if bng they won't play us..
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: chakkman on July 08, 2010, 08:32 PM
That's quite a normal thing to pick the scheme you are most likely to win... no lame point in that chicken. Of course vs. certain people/clans you can't rely on any weaknesses so you would probably pick the scheme u get the most points in. If you have a weakness, work on it, every1 can do that according to their abilities up to a certain point.
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: Madden on July 08, 2010, 09:22 PM
I think it's fine if people don't want to play certain schemes. Not everyone plays TUS to become good all rounders, they just enjoy  competitive games of schemes they enjoy. Does it really matter if people avoid? I don't believe it causes many problems and if a point was made of reporting avoiders, I think that could only harm league activity. There are new players who don't like playing defaults and love to shop, also new defaulters who don't want to rope. I'd rather have them playing a few games than throwing them out for avoiding games.

The only reason I could see this being a problem is if a clan/player was greatly benefitting from avoiding and achieving a higher ranking than they deserve. Is this happening?
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: Agneau on July 08, 2010, 09:54 PM
maddy makes a point!

i just find this boring, for example somedays i love rring and some others i prefer ropers

and change my mood coz of a guy who most of cases pick a think u dont want to play is boring!

i just want to say, the problem is not because they dont play a schem, but they have to think that the schem they pick can be a schem which ppl dont want to play

imo its just about respecting choices, thing that all ppl dont do and its getting worst and worst with the new wave of players
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: Snoop on July 08, 2010, 09:55 PM
Lol agree 100% i hate that ppl.. Speciiale renato i just had a problem with him, also i told him to rr me and he denied LOL noobs. Well something should be done
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: beer on July 08, 2010, 10:42 PM
Everyone avoids me in TTRR you mean? Thats why i never get to play in them.

I don't look for clanners with just 1 other member because people will pick my weakness. That topic came up of me asking for no RR clanners and since then i don't bother looking for clanners when im not prepared to play someones pick.

diana has recently been avoiding bngs. cfc asking in ag for clanners, then ask what we pick and say if bng they won't play us..

im not saing that u did something wrng, or not, just saind that u avoid rr in clanner, like SPW who is agains this but used avoid ropes in clanner!
tom im jus saing.. I also avoid BNG and ill keep avoindg bng i dnt give i f@#!.. i say that before play my game so thats must b ok, if my opont doesnt like, gg and we do no play.

i just said and e.g i dont wanna start a WAR, the e.g was realy for SPW who avoid, but on this thread is agains what is weird
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: beer on July 08, 2010, 10:43 PM


The only reason I could see this being a problem is if a clan/player was greatly benefitting from avoiding and achieving a higher ranking than they deserve. Is this happening?

happend with ckc, but noone care anymore. let it be
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: DarkOne on July 08, 2010, 11:22 PM
I don't really see the problem here, to be honest.
You can report free wins if your opponent refuses to play your pick. And someone is a notorious scheme avoider, you could always, you know, collectively ignore him until he changes his ways.
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: angus on July 09, 2010, 02:26 PM
yea today whit mr. dmitry89'che

he say, i pick hysteria you what pick?....
me: i pick ttrr
he: sry i DONT PLAY ROPER SCHEME bye ....

-conection losing-


what a mofo and gay!!! stupid people whitout scrotum....
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: Twyrfher on July 09, 2010, 02:35 PM
You can report free wins if your opponent refuses to play your pick.
That's valid, legal, but lame as f@#!, and nobody that reads the forum will do that.

so, take a ZippyBearDancer:
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Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: TheKomodo on July 09, 2010, 06:52 PM
Does it really matter if people avoid?

The only reason I could see this being a problem is if a clan/player was greatly benefitting from avoiding and achieving a higher ranking than they deserve. Is this happening?

You just answered your own question mate, and it's already happened.

ANYONE who avoids, is a pussy, I WILL play any scheme if I have to, I won't turn down a clanner just because I don't like a scheme, I do like more or less every scheme, I just like BnG a million times better.

I will refuse to play, IF another clan member is on to take my place with a scheme I can't be bothered playing, if not, then I will play :D
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: NAiL on July 09, 2010, 07:07 PM
There are certain clans out there who will only play an opponants pick if they have players who can play that scheme well online. I find this lame because then your clan doesnt do well because all of you are good all rounders, it does well because those who are weak in certain schemes won't play those schemes.

I find it lame that certain clans hold everything up by waiting for another player to come online, it just ruins the clanning experience. Your supposed to be all rounders, so why cant you just have the same two people play both picks, rather than wait for the better roper/bnger/eliter to come online.

Your not an all rounder if YOU personaly won't play any clans pick, your lame!
Title: Re: people avoiding schems
Post by: Madden on July 09, 2010, 08:39 PM
You just answered your own question mate, and it's already happened.

ANYONE who avoids, is a pussy, I WILL play any scheme if I have to, I won't turn down a clanner just because I don't like a scheme, I do like more or less every scheme, I just like BnG a million times better.

Can you give me an example of it happening? No one in the singles playoffs has avoided to get there. It happens sometimes in clanners, where some clans won't play certain schemes unless they have the correct members present (CKC have done this on more than one occasion btw!). This is annoying for those who play everyone at everything but it's simply unresolvable.

And I think it's extremely short sighted to call anyone who avoids a pussy. Anyone who has aspirations of becoming an allrounder and/or climbing up the TUS leaderboard should be villified in such a way, but as I mentioned earlier, what's wrong with the more casual player enjoying his shoppers/defaults against other enthusiasts?