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sbaffo was throwing a 4 sec sitter at 28:46, nade was sitting for 0.28. it made damage of 14 hp. as you can see at min 44 for example he had 1 hp left at the end of the game. we asked him to do the damage but he didnt. afaik this is our win, i will report when someone confirms.
I would also like to know whether that girder was according to the rules. Can you use it for defensive purposes if it's got an offensive purpose at the same time?
girder at 32:55
Yup, that's a sitter, and you can't blame it on accident like in the other thread when rolling 4s.
I'd say girder is also questionable, but the rule about it is stupid so it can be seen both ways.
the girder blocked kyhos shot he was hitting previous turn. if he just wants to bounce a nade he has many options to place a girder without blocking our attack lol.
Quote from: van on March 13, 2013, 05:12 PM
girder is also questionable, but the rule about it is stupid so it can be seen both ways.
haha yeah girder is okay if its used to be a bank, even ignoring the fact next turn you will tele under that girder and hide xD
I cannot believe you are complaining for that, Peja.
For a bl shot of how? 10 hp with sbafof at 80 hp and yr Aef at 130??? the nade stucked cause of the texture...
i cant believe u guys are calling a sitter caused by a lame 4 sec roller an accident. be a man and take the consequences or tell your mate to stop to gamble with sitters.
if you want to talk about laming, what can you say me about the hide of Guria???? it was also darkside at the beginning...
dunno which game u were watching, maybe an moleshopper? anyway guuuria was been able to hit during the whole game same goes for kyho. even in his hardest hard hard uber hide (where he had to sg to get angle) sbaffo made damage on first attempt.
i don't like 4 secs nade as you know...
lame was the hide, lame was the shot. I probably would have waited that she has opened by herself her own hide. and then shot...
The rolling is lame the sitter was accidentally to me...
It wasn't guuuria ANO, it was me. And I wonder , why this hide was lame XD? Any1 would do this tele in my position, just normal thing.
i wanna see your reaction when i kiss your gf on accident ;). im quite sure you would care as much as i care for this 4 sec nade not moving the way as sbaffo wanted.
Boh... I can't see the hugest problem ever ... up to mods... I was not in that game, if not you would have been killed first uahuahua
i don't care, really... I m hungry only with some people and it's not you... (not yet... :P)
Btw, touch ana accindetally, i won't need mods to solve the question uhauhauh UAHUHAUHA
AH A A HA
i've checked very carefully and the last sound of the nade is at 0:24, not at 28. so the nade was still from 0:24 and can't be considered a sitter.
i'm sorry but this game is still valid.
Quote from: OrangE on March 13, 2013, 09:16 PM
i've checked very carefully and the last sound of the nade is at 0:24, not at 28. so the nade was still from 0:24 and can't be considered a sitter.
i'm sorry but this game is still valid.
Sitters are grenades that sit for 1/4 second or longer and dont make any sounds. nice to learn new things.
Since when did sitters include audio?!
What the actual f**k is going on here at TuS lol?
if there was sound this means the nade was still bouncing.
and bouncing means movement (at least i was taught so).
Are you sure? Sound can also be an echo, I don't know if this applies to WA, either way, audio does not incline something is moving, the sound itself is moving(sound waves), but the object it came from is not.
Ok, let's try a solution:
first I attach the rules how they are (nothing about sounds).
after I'll check again the replay, carefully and I'll be back.
Dunno this story about sounds, but you are right, if a thing moves it makes a sound D.
Thta's why the nade makes the last sound at 0.24 and not at 0.28 and it's not a sitter.
It's lame, Sbaffo has been lame, but it's not sitter.
What the hell are you guys talking about, SOUND DOES NOT MEAN IT'S MOVING !
This is bullsh*t, complete and utter bullsh*t, why the hell does TuS put up with crap like this?!?
Seriously, is life THAT BAD for you guys, you must complain about a meaningless game on WA using SOUND as your arguement, when it has NOTHING TO DO WITH SOUND !
I have never ever in my life heard anyone using "it was making a sound, so it is acceptable" as a valid point before, this should definitely NOT be allowed...
And as I previously explained, because something is making a sound doesn't mean it is moving, the lightning comes before the thunder.
I am honest Komo.
Yesterday I didn't look carefully at the time of the sitting.
Today I've read this thing about "sound" mentioned by Peja, and I have never heard first then today about it. I was curious, I've opened the replay again, and I saw also that what Peja was saying about sound was wrong cause the last sound was made at 0.24 and not at 0.28 as he wrote yesterday.
Honestly I think it's an ugly shot, and I would be angry too if I were Kyho.
Do you think is a sitter Komo then? I m just asking you.
edit: Orange said for first about the "sound" not Peja. Sry.
IMO, it is a sitter, to the naked eye, and deaf people, it's a sitter.
I don't know who said audio is included in the rules, but afaik it isn't, and if it must be, it should be added in the description, and if someone DOES add this rule, I hope they immediately walk off a cliff or headbutt a diamond spike very very very very hard.
69, It's so cute you guys trying to keep your win :)
It was a sitter, we don't have any sound rule. Game is void. Aef can report.
Ok, let's do a summary about what happened:
At about 28:00 minutes, after master died, kyho teleported between 2 threes. I tought "hmm he got panic maybe is tryng to gain time for think something, or he's gonna open with sg" so i used a 3 sec nade for open him, but i almost hit him and i didn't open. But after this , kyho tryed to hit me with a grenade. You all know, kyho couldn't hit me from there as i couldn't do too with a 3 sec nade, there's a rule who says:
Quote- Darksiding is not allowed. A darkside is considered a place where you can't hit OR be hit with a nade. Simply teleport/move to another position.
Now don't tell "kyho could hit you without problem", granade wouldn't even come at me , it just would exlpode before.
And about the 4 sec nade i don't know what say, mod will decide it if was cow or not.
Then let's check at minute 32:47
I placed a girder for bounce my nade and hit kyho, and let's take a look at the chat :
Quote[00:33:16.16] [PeJ`AeF] sbaffo
[00:33:16.88] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) starts turn
[00:33:19.86] [aef`kyho] isn't it cow?
[00:33:20.02] [PeJ`AeF] that gird is cow xd
[00:33:23.92] [`69`Sbaffo] lol
[00:33:24.68] [`69`Sbaffo] cow?
[00:33:24.72] [master`69] no
[00:33:27.58] [aef`kyho] ok
[00:33:28.42] [`69`Sbaffo] i'm using as bounce
[00:33:32.04] [aef`kyho] play it
[00:33:32.68] [aef`kyho] yea
[00:33:32.72] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) fires Granata (3 sec, min bounce)
[00:33:33.22] [PeJ`AeF] it is defesive for sure lol
[00:33:36.78] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) ends turn; time used: 14.42 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:33:40.84] ••• Damage dealt: 20 to snizzle (aef`kyho)
[00:33:40.84] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) starts turn
[00:33:40.86] [master`69] he use it for attack
[00:33:40.86] [AeF`HHC`] its a multipurpose one
[00:33:43.26] [PeJ`AeF] doesnt matter
[00:33:45.66] [`69`Sbaffo] i don't care, i'm using it as an attack
[00:33:48.28] [`69`Sbaffo] lool
[00:33:50.82] [PeJ`AeF] as long as it has defensive use its cow
[00:33:51.52] [AeF`HHC`] :D
[00:33:51.88] [`69`Sbaffo] use sg kyho xDD
[00:33:54.30] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) fires Teletrasporto
[00:33:56.78] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) ends turn; time used: 13.44 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:33:56.80] [aef`kyho] hahahahah
[00:33:57.48] [aef`kyho] nope
[00:33:58.80] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) starts turn
[00:33:59.10] [aef`kyho] just joking
[00:33:59.34] [aef`kyho] ;D
[00:34:04.66] [PeJ`AeF] u block his shit lol
[00:34:07.74] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) fires Granata (3 sec, min bounce)
[00:34:08.44] [PeJ`AeF] with a f@#!ing girder
[00:34:12.02] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) ends turn; time used: 7.36 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:34:16.00] ••• Damage dealt: 17 to snizzle (aef`kyho)
[00:34:16.00] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) starts turn
[00:34:16.02] [`69`Sbaffo] lol
[00:34:24.74] [`69`Sbaffo] you can ask everyone by opening a cryng complaint
[00:34:26.48] [AeF`HHC`] up high kyho
[00:34:30.26] [AeF`HHC`] is harder to hit with bounce
[00:34:31.38] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) fires Teletrasporto
[00:34:33.48] [PeJ`AeF] u will lose this complaint
[00:34:33.86] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) ends turn; time used: 12.68 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:34:34.46] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) starts turn
[00:34:42.42] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) fires Bazooka
[00:34:47.56] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) ends turn; time used: 6.96 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:34:49.16] [`69`Sbaffo] aaah
[00:34:51.38] [`69`Sbaffo] k
[00:34:51.58] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) starts turn
[00:34:51.60] [AeF`HHC`] i guess..
[00:34:57.88] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) fires Granata (3 sec, min bounce)
[00:34:59.58] [`69`Sbaffo] kyho said too "ok"
[00:35:01.90] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) ends turn; time used: 6.28 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:35:03.22] [AeF`HHC`] lol
[00:35:04.12] [AeF`HHC`] bl
[00:35:05.92] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) starts turn
[00:35:06.14] [PeJ`AeF] kyho can suck ym dick
[00:35:08.24] [aef`kyho] yea
[00:35:11.36] [aef`kyho] Im just f@#!ing soldier
[00:35:15.08] [PeJ`AeF] cos f@#!ing way 2 nice towards lame asses like you
[00:35:19.18] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) fires Granata (4 sec, min bounce)
[00:35:24.40] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) ends turn; time used: 13.24 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:35:27.08] [`69`Sbaffo] oh not there
[00:35:28.42] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) starts turn
[00:35:28.44] [master`69] tira normale
[00:35:31.42] [master`69] ke lo prendi facile
[00:35:32.90] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) fires Bazooka
[00:35:33.72] [AeF`HHC`] cmon kyh
[00:35:37.86] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) ends turn; time used: 4.46 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:35:38.62] [PeJ`AeF] there would have been like 10 possabilities using a gird to bounce a nade which woulldnt block his shots
[00:35:40.28] [AeF`HHC`] kurrrwaaa
[00:35:41.88] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) starts turn
[00:35:46.62] [aef`kyho] haha hhc
[00:35:46.92] [aef`kyho] xD
[00:35:50.72] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) fires Granata (3 sec, min bounce)
[00:35:54.92] ••• Gufo powa (`69`Sbaffo) ends turn; time used: 7.86 sec turn, 0.02 sec retreat
[00:35:58.94] ••• snizzle (aef`kyho) starts turn
[00:35:58.96] [AeF`HHC`] yeah thats kinda true
[00:36:03.34] [PeJ`AeF] its a f@#!ing cow lol
now let's check what rules says about it :
Quote- Girders may be used for bouncing purposes only. Destroy the girder before continuing if placed incorrectly.
I used it for bounce my nade , and not for hide my worm. It changed the trajectory of kyho's nades but he still could hit me, so it isn't cow, for sure.
I replied today just for see how the topic would become, if people would have reply responsibly and honestly, i just wanted tell precisely that i'm sorry for that 4 sec grenade, but dunno what happened i just got nervous for kyho's hide, i hate that map and honestly i think that kyho could take a better hide.
Quote from: Komito on March 14, 2013, 01:48 AM
Since when did sitters include audio?!
What the actual f**k is going on here at TuS lol?
Quote from: Komito on March 14, 2013, 03:11 AM
Are you sure? Sound can also be an echo
Since how much grenades in WA got an echo? I could actually say the same thing "What the actual f**k is going on here at TuS lol?"
ok, gg.
I-ve watched again, the nade stops at 28 and doesn t move. Peja has right.
I thought peja talked about sound, i wasn-t paying attention. Sorry for my superficiality.
Quote from: Sbaffo on March 14, 2013, 02:23 PM
I replied today just for see how the topic would become
Never do that. mods normally read complaint and check replay to the point the complaint is talking about. Shedding some light after the decision is made has much less effect.