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Title: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 15, 2009, 04:44 AM
Was like the most boring game ever. Hyst is a shit scheme when ppl decide 2 be lame at the end of games... Should be rules against this shit. a waste of time.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Ray on December 15, 2009, 02:30 PM
Or moved to Free League, which I would support. Seemed a good idea at the beginning of the league, now we experienced it, it seems the worst. Uber start a topic about it! ;D
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 02:35 PM
Was like the most boring game ever. Hyst is a shit scheme when ppl decide 2 be lame at the end of games... Should be rules against this shit. a waste of time.

hysteria got a lots of strategies, and is that make the scheme fun for me, u can play relaxed all game, be losing, but at the end, if u are smart u win. even if some one do dark sides u can even move or worm, destroi his hide, etc, etc there are alwys many things to do, and it makes hysteria so interesting. u can watch my games in hysteria cup in knockouts, that was alwys fast game.
btw play with ur make krezo and tell me if the game will take mutch time :P

ray, lmao at moved to free league, as zippo says, 'hysteria is noob scheme' but he lose xd

edit:u call that lamme but he was just trying win, it was a league game, and he played ftw. its the same shit as in t17 when u dnt have anyway waeponds and u keep bloking, its lamme? yea, but u are doing ur job to win, thats all, its ur strategi

im sure that ull like it uber
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Camper on December 15, 2009, 02:52 PM
i agree with  beer :}.


Hyst is schme for smarter players :}
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 03:06 PM
i agree with  beer :}.


Hyst is schme for smarter players :}
i didnt said that. u must be smart yea, even in elite and t17. im not saing that hysteria is the must skilled scheme, dunno maybe is maybe not, who cares. im saing that is a realy good scheme, and evryone can be good on in, like in all other scheme, u just must pratice.
and yea, camperz sometimes u are bored in hysteria, u make me think to mutch to fuk ur darksides, but i pwn u XD
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Ray on December 15, 2009, 03:12 PM
I don't believe in Hysteria being a good scheme or enjoyable for a minute, that's me, sorry for me being like this. :D
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 03:15 PM
I don't believe in Hysteria being a good scheme or enjoyable for a minute, that's me, sorry for me being like this. :D

dunno if u remember in xtc one thread about remove hysteria, i was one of them that say to remove that scheme, and many other guys that was against and i see now them hosting hysteria on ag, like fr4nk for example, he was really agains that, now the few games i see hosted by him, its hysteria. lol
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Camper on December 15, 2009, 04:15 PM


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and yea, camperz sometimes u are bored in hysteria, u make me think to mutch to fuk ur darksides, but i pwn u XD


hahha, when i play serious u never pwn me beer :}
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 15, 2009, 04:23 PM
Well, look at my hyst stats, i won much more than i lost in this scheme, so it's not that i suck in it. But i just think it doestn take much skill 2 teleport down left side, down right side every other round..?? show me the skill in that, u need a fast mouse, thats all. In elite/t 17 ends u choose style after the weapons and the zone u made for urself towards the end of the game. Cant in any way be compared 2 hysteria imo. But if u guys think its funny 2 darkside and then hope for the other guy 2 get his worm a little 2 seperate so u can tele close and kill and get 1vs1 thats fine by me.. If i would be as lame as him i would tele both my worms into a lame spot and pressed /afk. This is like darksiding in a bng almost. soooo boring.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 04:35 PM
Well, look at my hyst stats, i won much more than i lost in this scheme, so it's not that i suck in it. But i just think it doestn take much skill 2 teleport down left side, down right side every other round..?? show me the skill in that, u need a fast mouse, thats all. In elite/t 17 ends u choose style after the weapons and the zone u made for urself towards the end of the game. Cant in any way be compared 2 hysteria imo. But if u guys think its funny 2 darkside and then hope for the other guy 2 get his worm a little 2 seperate so u can tele close and kill and get 1vs1 thats fine by me.. If i would be as lame as him i would tele both my worms into a lame spot and pressed /afk. This is like darksiding in a bng almost. soooo boring.

where are the skills of bloking alwys in t17?there are no skills also but u have to do that to change ur side, or to make ur opponent move or do something that u want, or to just wast time to get bettr weapond!but there are no skill using that, lol but u have to do it, its a strategi, its lamme? yea?no? of course not..
yea he has to be fast with mouse and make sure that he doesnt plop his worm lol. but  the skills are when u made something that make ur opunent move his darkside, making showing up. here are the skill, not stay on top waiting for good wind to kill him, as he is waitng for good wind to kill u, if both play like that, yea boring hysteria.
dnt take me wrong dude, we played hysteria and i guess it wasted that bored for u, ur it was (if u can remeber that)?
im just trying to show u that if u play diferent hysteria can be funny and skilled scheme
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Camper on December 15, 2009, 04:50 PM
U are forgetin that hyst has SD.
If he is in a dark f@#!ing side, u can wast time and he'd tele to up map x}
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 04:54 PM
U are forgetin that hyst has SD.
If he is in a dark f@#!ing side, u can wast time and he'd tele to up map x}
SD» when? 1 hour late? i never had SD on it, lmao realy. my games dnt take so long.
btw the way to wait for him is the most moring and lamme. we are talking about diferent ways to kills players like u that do that lol
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Camper on December 15, 2009, 04:57 PM
rofl beer,  in schme that i have.  SD comes in 25 min.

And i dont play hiddin all the time.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 15, 2009, 05:36 PM
So Camper, u expect me 2 wait for him for like 10 minutes that game? when each turn is 1 sec.. man if thats not boring, then nothing is. Im not saying u dont need skills for playing hyst. all the bng, weapon choosing etc obviously require skills. But im saying that lame darksiding style at the END of games really mess up the charm of that scheme, at least for me.. If u disagree then its ok.. Im just stating my opinion.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Camper on December 15, 2009, 05:49 PM
hum, i know, i am just givin my opinion too . xD
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 15, 2009, 05:56 PM
Uber, Hysteria SD comes is 10 sec. If you need to force SD to your opponent you gotta waste 10 of your turns which is not a big deal in hysteria since the game is so fast. (Not 10 mins)
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 05:58 PM
So Camper, u expect me 2 wait for him for like 10 minutes that game? when each turn is 1 sec.. man if thats not boring, then nothing is. Im not saying u dont need skills for playing hyst. all the bng, weapon choosing etc obviously require skills. But im saying that lame darksiding style at the END of games really mess up the charm of that scheme, at least for me.. If u disagree then its ok.. Im just stating my opinion.

eya i got u. but im saing is that there are ways around it. hysteria isnt that only about bng. i suck at bng and im ok with hysteria, cose ther eare many diferent things tht u can do instead of playing bng with ur opponent in darksidr
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Camper on December 15, 2009, 06:16 PM
Thanks MI, i think 25 sec, but said 25 min :D.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: pr on December 15, 2009, 08:23 PM
Hysteria is one of the most LUCKLESS schemes or even the most luckless scheme within the wormnet.
You can't blame anything here.

Here are examples of luck factors within other schemes:

Roper - Crates fall spots
Team17 - Crates, Start positions
BnG - Notch, some external programs
RR - External progs which many of RRs use
Elite - No luck factors
Shopper - Crates
WxW - Crates
Hysteria - No luck factors
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: chakkman on December 15, 2009, 09:13 PM
pr your not posting facts but your own opinion about those schemes. So much talk about luck factor in schemes... i remember when some1 came up with his opinion about inter being a luck scheme as well. Elite can also be more or less decided by luck, e.g. when you have lucky wind and can chute into a good position you couldnt reach otherwise because you ran out of ropes or so.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 15, 2009, 09:13 PM
Who brought luck in the picture??? Look at what im saying; im saying the style where u tele between hides where u cant be reached or sometimes even can reach ur opponent is lame.. Its a rule against it in bng. Why not in hyst? In bng u also can tele 2 a sick spot and just stand there.. Ur opponent can dig, sure, but is that the meaning of this game? Nah i doubt it.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Dub-c on December 15, 2009, 09:23 PM
Its just not a classic scheme, put it in a league with all fun schemes. Why not have wfw? bungee race? everything else then for tus
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 09:34 PM
Its just not a classic scheme, put it in a league with all fun schemes. Why not have wfw? bungee race? everything else then for tus
for exemple xtc and the last fb had hysteria in their scheme, and there wasnt any other league like free league, only one and it had hysteria. since is one of the most picked scheme why should it be in free?
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: pr on December 15, 2009, 10:04 PM
for exemple xtc and the last fb had hysteria in their scheme, and there wasnt any other league like free league, only one and it had hysteria. since is one of the most picked scheme why should it be in free?

that's it.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: pr on December 15, 2009, 10:06 PM
Who brought luck in the picture??? Look at what im saying; im saying the style where u tele between hides where u cant be reached or sometimes even can reach ur opponent is lame.. Its a rule against it in bng. Why not in hyst? In bng u also can tele 2 a sick spot and just stand there.. Ur opponent can dig, sure, but is that the meaning of this game? Nah i doubt it.

that's hysteria  8)

feel the stress at the end having one worm versus 3 opponent worms and WIN IT!
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Dub-c on December 15, 2009, 10:21 PM
Its just not a classic scheme, put it in a league with all fun schemes. Why not have wfw? bungee race? everything else then for tus
for exemple xtc and the last fb had hysteria in their scheme, and there wasnt any other league like free league, only one and it had hysteria. since is one of the most picked scheme why should it be in free?
BECAUSE its not a classic scheme. I never even heard of the damn scheme before I played this season
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 10:24 PM
maybe u are 2 old now (:

edit: maybe as 'new player' have to learn these old schemes like bng u also ahve to learn this new one, since the players of thise days play it. and i guess u dnt dslike it since u played an clanner agains me yesterday. u was more bored with bng, even more
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: NAiL on December 15, 2009, 10:45 PM
So Camper, u expect me 2 wait for him for like 10 minutes that game? when each turn is 1 sec.. man if thats not boring, then nothing is. Im not saying u dont need skills for playing hyst. all the bng, weapon choosing etc obviously require skills. But im saying that lame darksiding style at the END of games really mess up the charm of that scheme, at least for me.. If u disagree then its ok.. Im just stating my opinion.

Hysteria isnt BnG, its Hysteria.

When it comes down to the last worm in Hysteria, darksiding will happen alot, its a TACTIC. Lets remember that you are trying to WIN the game... Its how you counteract the darksiding that matters, i.e. digging a little, stalking the worm with teleports until he messes up etc...

As Monkey said, all you'd needed to have done to bring on SD would be wasting less than ten turns.

What would you rather he did Uber? Teleport somewhere where he can be hit by you and loose the game? Is that what you'd want?

Well evidently it would be, seeing as you want to WIN the game just as much as he does.

I'll tell you whats really lame, its people yelling lame when they loose a game, and people saying that certain schemes shouldnt be played for the classic league (dubc) when they havent been around for the last 3 years to see what people are playing these days.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Dub-c on December 15, 2009, 11:30 PM
Anyone know the meaning of "Classic"?
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 11:34 PM
Anyone know the meaning of "Classic"?
maybe u are 2 old now (:

edit: maybe as 'new player' have to learn these old schemes like bng u also ahve to learn this new one, since the players of thise days play it. and i guess u dnt dslike it since u played an clanner agains me yesterday. u was more bored with bng, even more


its classic in these days.

So Camper, u expect me 2 wait for him for like 10 minutes that game? when each turn is 1 sec.. man if thats not boring, then nothing is. Im not saying u dont need skills for playing hyst. all the bng, weapon choosing etc obviously require skills. But im saying that lame darksiding style at the END of games really mess up the charm of that scheme, at least for me.. If u disagree then its ok.. Im just stating my opinion.

Hysteria isnt BnG, its Hysteria.

When it comes down to the last worm in Hysteria, darksiding will happen alot, its a TACTIC. Lets remember that you are trying to WIN the game... Its how you counteract the darksiding that matters, i.e. digging a little, stalking the worm with teleports until he messes up etc...

As Monkey said, all you'd needed to have done to bring on SD would be wasting less than ten turns.

What would you rather he did Uber? Teleport somewhere where he can be hit by you and loose the game? Is that what you'd want?

Well evidently it would be, seeing as you want to WIN the game just as much as he does.

I'll tell you whats really lame, its people yelling lame when they loose a game, and people saying that certain schemes shouldnt be played for the classic league (dubc) when they havent been around for the last 3 years to see what people are playing these days.

word
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Rok on December 15, 2009, 11:37 PM
Anyone know the meaning of "Classic"?

Quote from: wikipedia
The word Classic means something that is a perfect example of a particular style, something of lasting worth or with a timeless quality. The word can be an adjective (a classic car) or a noun (a classic of American literature). It denotes a particular quality in art, architecture, literature and other cultural artefacts. In commerce, products are named 'classic' to denote a long standing popular version or model, to distinguish it from a newer variety. Classic is used to describe many major, long-standing sporting events. Colloquially, an everyday occurrence (e.g. a joke or mishap) may be described as 'an absolute classic'.

"Classic" should not be confused with classical, which refers specifically to certain cultural styles, especially in music and architecture.

 ;)
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 15, 2009, 11:58 PM
'classic' league just started in tus. the name is now the problem, there was only worms league. thats all.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: NAiL on December 16, 2009, 01:42 AM
Anyone know the meaning of "Classic"?

Anyone know the meaning of "Evolution"?

Word beer ^, thats a good point.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:35 AM
U guys got me all wrong, when u keep on saying why we play it, and if we should remove it or not. I NEVER told i wanted 2 remove the scheme. And tell me Nail, do it mean u dont want 2 win the game in bng just cause u dont darkside? nah, cause the RULES tell u not 2. Its not fair against ur opponent that made u come in a spot that means u can lose the game anytime. Im for the hyst scheme, i played many funny matches vs good and bad players in it. I just think we should consider adding rules 2 it, as we have for ALL the other schemes.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:37 AM
And im glad this "thread" got so much response. Discussion only makes the league better imo. Every1 should be able to state their opinion, without being called "2 old" or "2 new" etc.. :) Just keep to what this post was about (50& of answers been off-topic).
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: NAiL on December 16, 2009, 03:42 AM
With regards to hysteria being removed from the classic scheme list we were talking to dub.

U guys got me all wrong, when u keep on saying why we play it, and if we should remove it or not. I NEVER told i wanted 2 remove the scheme. And tell me Nail, do it mean u dont want 2 win the game in bng just cause u dont darkside? nah, cause the RULES tell u not 2.

The thing is, I repeat, hysteria is NOT bng.

The reason darksiding is not allowed in bng is because its unfair, your opponant cannot hit you.

In hysteria you can MOVE anywhere, every turn, so darksiding isnt a problem.

Sure its a problem if you dont do anything about it (like in the case of this game), but thats YOUR problem, not the scheme's.

If your opponant moves to an unreachable spot, there are many things you can do to counteract this (surely I dont need to tell you what these things are).

And if worst comes to worse, waste 10 goes. Then SD comes and its problem solved.

Adding a "no darksiding" rule to hysteria is absurd, primarly for the reason that its NOT NEEDED, and is also very circumstantial. I mean, is it ok for me to darkside at the beginning of the game? If my worms start in a darksided position must I move them so that they can be shot? etc...

There is no need for any darksiding rule to be added to hysteria, if anything it RUINS the scheme.

Ill say something again just incase you missed it:  if worst comes to worse, waste 10 goes. Then SD comes and its problem solved.

For that reason alone, your theory of making a no darksiding rule falls flat, because ITS NOT NEEDED!
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 16, 2009, 04:39 AM
I hear u say it isnt needed, well as I said b4; thats your OPINION. as I have mine, and others have theirs. It can easily be solved with a rule that darksiding isnt allowed for a far amount of rounds at a time, u must show some willingness 2 attack at least, once in a while. And I know its not BnG, but it was just 2 make a point. In all kinds of sports and games, willingness 2 attack should be awarded. If not this will be the lamest scheme ever played in this game.. I find it boring 2 SKIP or w/e 10 times in a row. its so retarded that it should be necessary in the first place.. THis is gladly not the case in most hyst games, as people share my views on how 2 play it, and wants attack more then hide at a bottom cave 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 16, 2009, 05:12 AM
Uber,
The reason you think like this or anybody else gets pissed off in Hysteria, is that you are leading in the game and that makes your expectations high. We can't tell hysteria result till the end of the game. Having more health or more worms in hysteria doesn't mean an advantage.

For example, if in shopper you kill one of your opponents worm and you become 4 to 3. Your opponent can pile all his 3 worms on your 4 and each turn you have to attack your own worm. Now because you have plopped one of this worms, you might think this sucks and ask for rules not to 'pile on worms'.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Dub-c on December 16, 2009, 06:37 AM
Less worms, more health?
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:20 PM
Uber,
The reason you think like this or anybody else gets pissed off in Hysteria, is that you are leading in the game and that makes your expectations high. We can't tell hysteria result till the end of the game. Having more health or more worms in hysteria doesn't mean an advantage.

For example, if in shopper you kill one of your opponents worm and you become 4 to 3. Your opponent can pile all his 3 worms on your 4 and each turn you have to attack your own worm. Now because you have plopped one of this worms, you might think this sucks and ask for rules not to 'pile on worms'.

U disappoint me with this "easy" way of thinking, lol. Im well aware off that worm advantage can be good in worms, and that goes for all schemes. U still dont plop 2-3 of your worms at the start in hyst or w/e 2 get it no? The whole meaning by this is 2 make the game more fun 2 play/watch. If he has worm advantage, then fine, use it. But dont hide down at the caverns like a shithead. If I hadnt gone after him, as I did, and insted played just as lame, Hide both my worms in a little hole in the mid of the map f.ex. What a parody of a game it would be?? U wanna reward players that do so, fine, be my guest. The thing that I find strange is u dont see my point. lol. And that "ask for rules not to pile worms" was just 2 stupid 2 comment. I dont see how u can even mention that in the same sentence as this post..
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: NAiL on December 16, 2009, 07:19 PM
Uber, when debating you need to learn to make factual points based on evidence, rather than emotionally charged scrawls of bias trash.

Ill go through some of the things you've said, again.

You said in responce to MI:

U disappoint me with this "easy" way of thinking,

Eh? You disapoint me with your "easy" way of thinking, look at what you say:

But dont hide down at the caverns like a shithead.

You see saying things like this based on the emotions of a certain game you have played, displays the characteristics of a very single minded individual.

What a parody of a game it would be?? U wanna reward players that do so, fine, be my guest.

Eh? Come again?

The scheme does not reward you for doing so, the PLAYER may or may not reward you for doing so.

As you said yourself:

If I hadnt gone after him, as I did, and insted played just as lame, Hide both my worms in a little hole in the mid of the map f.ex. What a parody of a game it would be??

If you'd hid in a hole, then he would have taken the high ground and then YOU would be in the worser position. I think you need to be reminded that hiding is not "being lame". You had no complaints up until he was down to his last worm with under 30 health, OF COURSE HE ISNT GOING TO HIDE ON THE TOP OF THE MAP WERE HE CAN BE SHOT AND KILLED AND LOOSE THE GAME!

This isnt a funner, this is a league game of which BOTH of you are TRYING TO WIN.

I could use your pathetic "being lame" argument in other schemes, but I have the higher intellect to know not to. I could say "HEY YOUR LAME"  if you were constantly blocking my last worm in a T17. Sure I could have a bannana bomb to kill your last worm, but then again I might not. What would be (as you say) "more fun to play/watch"? You blocking me, or risking the fact that I might not have a bannana bomb all in the name of making the game "more fun to play or watch".  

Of course it would be "more fun to play/watch" if you didnt block me and risked me not having a bannana bomb, but you wouldnt do that would you, no, why? BECAUSE YOU WANT TO WIN.

So by the same token how can you criticise him for hiding where he cannot be hit in hysteria, when its a LEAGUE  game that both of you WANT TO WIN.

WINNING A GAME RELYS ON MORE THAN JUST ATTACKING, YOU KNOW THAT.

Your argument is this "stop darksiding me". This is the same as the argument for limitied girders in T17, "stop blocking me", i.e. it isnt an argument at all, its an irellevant, inappropriate STATEMENT that is yelled by SIMPLE MINDED people who instead of thinking of other strategies in order to win the game, would rather shout "LAME LAMERRRR U SOO LAME THIS SCHEME SUCKS". < Your own words from this game.

Your other argument is this, "game is more fun to play/watch when you try to attack more".

This just plain STUPID. Its not "more fun" if I am loosing, for me to FURTHER INCREASE MY CHANCES OF LOOSING. Its more fun for me to MAXIMISE MY CHANCES OF WINNING. Why can you not see that?

All hysteria players know that the game REALLY starts when its down to the last worms. This is where the hiding, following, predicting and trapping begins, this is where the "hysteria" begins.

The reason ive been more forceful in this post is because I find it kinda LAME, that you should tell people to "respect" others opinions, and then call Monkeys post stupid when he is just adding his say, be it useful to you or not.

I could go through so many more of the points you have made and contradcit you on every one of them. Your argument isnt  just pathetic, its non existant.

This isnt a matter of opinion, this is a matter of me being right, and you being completely and utterly wrong.

:/
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 16, 2009, 11:21 PM
I see u done ur homework on this one. Long did u use on it? Im glad u are such an debate force as u show here Nail. :)
My statement 2 MI was kinda "simple minded" but that was cause his example treated me like a 10 y old. U could clearly see the sarcasm in his example, if not, ur the simple minded one.

As for this scheme, ok then i clearly need 2 deal with and learn these "pro" tactics then. As u see here, alot of players agree with me in this being a scheme thats clearly debatable, as u can see of all posts here.

U have some good points, but many of em goes for that "wanting 2 win" stuff. There's a difference between wanting 2 win so bad, and lose with ur flag high. Im obviously not saying this goes for all, but in all schemes u find methods of beeing cheap, some choose it, some dont. Its a reason ppl are being called "cheap" and some arent, or what? And the difference between cheap/smart(wanting this win sooooooo bad)  is vv little. Then again, this is just a 10 y old computer game, and I dont wanna be "unpopular" in this community, so I'll rest my case here (already got 2 smites,rofl). But u can ask any1 that plays with/vs me alot about me, i doubt "single minded", "lame" or any of those words u mentioned are one that u'll hear about me..
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: NAiL on December 17, 2009, 03:37 AM
As for this scheme, ok then i clearly need 2 deal with and learn these "pro" tactics then. As u see here, alot of players agree with me in this being a scheme thats clearly debatable, as u can see of all posts here.

lol who agrees with you? Only Ray and Dub said that they dont really like the scheme, I havent seen a post agreeing with your "no darksiding rule".

More so than other schemes, hysteria  comes down to the very last worm in order determine who looses and who wins.

Most of the game is usually spent on the last worm.

You should know Uber, as a good T17 player, that its not over til its over.

Just as you wouldnt criticise a player of being "lame" for blocking and hiding his 1hp worm in a T17, why should you for a player who is blocking and hiding his 1hp worm in hysteria?

You should be able to see that this is not "being lame", nor is it "loosing with your flag down", this is fighting until the very end (sustainably) in order to secure a win.

If you'd rather not put up a fight for the sake of making the game "more fun to play or watch", then thats good for you, I admire your willingness to increase your chances of loosing simply to entertain your fellow wormer, hats off to you.

Watch this game Uber 14026, its an example of how simple and ENJOYABLE it is to bring on SD when you have an advantage. Watch the ending and you'll see how to avoid any darksiding problem.

And then tell me that the ending of that match wasnt fun and enjoyable, or how I "won with my flag down".

Anyway I hear you Uber, I cant really say any more to convince you to think otherwise, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 17, 2009, 03:45 AM
eya nail, word

where are the skills of bloking alwys in t17?there are no skills also but u have to do that to change ur side, or to make ur opponent move or do something that u want, or to just wast time to get bettr weapond!but there are no skill using that, lol but u have to do it, its a strategi, its lamme? yea?no? of course not..
yea he has to be fast with mouse and make sure that he doesnt plop his worm lol. but  the skills are when u made something that make ur opunent move his darkside, making showing up. here are the skill, not stay on top waiting for good wind to kill him, as he is waitng for good wind to kill u, if both play like that, yea boring hysteria.
dnt take me wrong dude, we played hysteria and i guess it wasted that bored for u, ur it was (if u can remeber that)?
im just trying to show u that if u play diferent hysteria can be funny and skilled scheme
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Chicken23 on December 17, 2009, 04:02 AM
So much to read here.

I have 1 question.

When you take ur turn on hysteria it doesn't effect the sd clock? So if 10 turns are wasted you are going to see waterrise???? I dont think this is the case, lets reduce sd time?
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: beer on December 17, 2009, 04:06 AM
lol i didnt event know about sd stuff. i guess the scheme is ok how it is. pls stop changing stuff in schemes. if that sd time is bad for u in one game, will be good in other, its fair ae
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Chicken23 on December 17, 2009, 04:43 AM
but if u never effect the sd clock because every turn moves are being made before 1 second is over the SD clocks never goes down and hence no waterrise to prevent these guys darksiding.

my question is do u turns make the sd clock tick
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 17, 2009, 05:26 AM
Nail, i understand what ur saying, and I appriciate ur modest behaviour in both what u write and ur points. I know there is ways 2 "counter-attack" these moves, I just find it so damn boring. wasnt really meant 2 become this big of a deal, suddenly it was almost 50 posts in here. lol.

Still, my conclusion is just I hope i dont get as many of these kind of games (been like 1 of 10 or something), cause it will ruin the fun in this scheme for ME :) But still, I understand the whole hiding process, I've played this game for a while me 2. :) Well then, lets go back 2 our tus'ing now shall we?

Hyst NAIL? :p rofl
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 17, 2009, 06:23 AM
Uber,
There wasn't a tiny bit sarcasm in my post. It was as simple as that. If you think being 'easy and simple' is stupid, then good luck. Life is as simple as that, if you want to solve 2+2 with 'Integral and Differentiation', be my guest.

1.
Quote from: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-11903/ chat
<<RoH`Uber>> this is why i hate this scheme. worm advantage shit

2.
You would have never say anything about being lame if you were the one losing with 1 low hp worm and you had to hide.

I'll leave it here as if I continue I'll drag the topic where I don't want it to be.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: NAiL on December 17, 2009, 07:16 AM
chicken read the posts its good fun, and yes you can waste 10 turns andbring on sd, which takes less than a couple of minutes to do

+ Uber yeh lets tus more again soon Xd
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Rok on December 17, 2009, 12:09 PM
but if u never effect the sd clock because every turn moves are being made before 1 second is over the SD clocks never goes down and hence no waterrise to prevent these guys darksiding.

my question is do u turns make the sd clock tick

To clear things up, turns where you use a weapon (including Teleport and Skip Go) don't make the SD clock tick, you need to waste the turn to do that.

Nice debate here, btw  :)
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Uber on December 17, 2009, 03:48 PM
Ya, and i find it boring just 2 waste turns. :p

@MI : My apologies then, but that example seemed v sarcastic as u know, and i know that piling in worms is the most common thing ever, and u said it in a way that seemed u meant I would like a rule against that if some1 did it vs me... So if that was not ur meaning, then fine.
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: Crazy on December 17, 2009, 10:04 PM
Its just not a classic scheme, put it in a league with all fun schemes. Why not have wfw? bungee race? everything else then for tus

I`ll take a what I like to call, "PR-example", here: In biathlon, Ole Einar Bjørndalen has been the best for many years. But he is growing old, and the World of Biathlon is at all time under development. They shoot faster, they ski faster, and so on. So, Ole Einar Bjørndalen has to, in an age of 36, keep up with this development, and constantly stay updated to still be in the top! So, if you draw some parallells... You have been away for some time Dub, Worms have changed, but you haven`t  :D Are you willing to give the scheme a chance? That being said, I suck in hysteria myself, I believe I have played max 10 games of the scheme. I don`t enjoy it very much, as I like more then 1 second to aim lol ;p But still, I have no reason to judge those who enjoy it ^^ Maybe in two years I will start to play and train in it myself  ;D (I know the discussion has been drawn towards if the scheme is based on luck or not, I don`t have the knowledge or time to set myself for real into that, which is why I aint commenting. But if Mablak played this scheme seriously for one year, I`m sure he would`ve been the best in it. Which means, it is not based on luck, but on practice and gaining experience, period).
Title: Re: Game #13958, Reported by Uber
Post by: NAiL on December 18, 2009, 01:00 AM
heh crazy, Dub likes this scheme now after he got beat by me