The Ultimate Site of Worms Armageddon
Leagues => Leagues Games Comments => Topic started by: Kradie on March 20, 2024, 07:23 PM
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Sometime I can have a good rope day, a good rope game. or just a good rope turn where play coherently and consistently. And sometime during such events, I can perform super fast taps. But this does not equate to cheating. It is quite difficult to tap super fast consistently throughout a game, or multiple games at once.
There is absolute no reasons for blitzed to cheat. However, in another thread I did provide a loose conjecture that perhaps some people of the now(minority) and past, may have used some sort of assisting tool to give them super fast taps consistently.
I am saying all this based on my experience with the game.
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Sometime I can have a good rope day, a good rope game. or just a good rope turn where play coherently and consistently. And sometime during such events, I can perform super fast taps. But this does not equate to cheating. It is quite difficult to tap super fast consistently throughout a game, or multiple games at once.
There is absolute no reasons for blitzed to cheat. However, in another thread I did provide a loose conjecture that perhaps some people of the now(minority) and past, may have used some sort of assisting tool to give them super fast taps consistently.
I am saying all this based on my experience with the game.
wormnet is pretty active with players, this game is far from dying, but WA related sites and groups are surely close to die.. when you need to offer money for people to play in your cups, you are kinda admitting that the game is dead, and money needs to be involved so that the few players remaining would be interested to join. (this is not directed at you kradie) certain obvious noob cheaters in roping schemes avoiding to play certain schemes, where their roping cheats will not help them in any way towards victory, but they expect you to never back down from their own false challenges, is also making this game closer to die. for me its ridicolous that there are still cheap cheaters in this game even today in roping schemes.. some I have named in my previous comments before, some are known cheaters to others.
what WA (and TUS) would need is some serious advertising, like Steam and on different platforms. bringing some life and new players. this is what never happened in the past 3-4 years since I'm around. the only good advertisement that happened in connection with WA was Kirill making a 300 K views video for youtube, which is a very nice thing, but it doesn't bring a new playerbase to TUS for example.. it brings a few wandering souls into #AG on a daily basis though : ) if the last resolt is scripters/macro users in roping schemes still not giving up their old habit to sometimes get some advantage in 2024 in a game like worms armageddon, and it's only 3-4 salty girls over the age of 35 commenting on a WA related forum, I propose the title of this song as a closing statement. ♥
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Imagine calling others salty while being so bad himself he has to accuse legend of the game for cheating :D
And yes ffs remove tower already. "Allround" league scheme and only lupa plays it.
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when you need to offer money for people to play in your cups, you are kinda admitting that the game is dead, and money needs to be involved so that the few players remaining would be interested to join. (
Do you think I offer money in Cups JUST to get people to join?
Your ignorance never ceases to make me laugh lol.
Even if this game had thousands of active players I would still put money into the Cups and TRL etc.
You are surely aware, that a lot of people who play this game are not very wealthy yes?
I am not wealthy by any means, the good technology I have was affordable over the course of 5-10 year because I'm not interested in expensive clothes or other materialistic possessions, I do not go on holidays multiple times a year, I scrimp and save everything possibly.
The reason I do this is so that it gives some other people a chance to make some extra money doing something they love doing so that they can maybe buy better technology, pay off some bills, go on vacation or whatever...
I'm committed to about £800+ every year to TUS events etc, that prize pool will grow with other generous players like Walrus, sniper, Korydex, oldsock, Senator and many others who contribute.
It's not about being desperate for activity, it's about being grateful enough to share with other people, it gives them an extra incentive to play, just having a prize makes the event feel more professional, it gathers more hype, more good players and creates a healthy competitive environment.
Not that you understand, or care, you really are one of the most selfish and toxic players I've ever seen in this game.
As for the rest of your delusional ignorant rant...
You're the only person who thinks blitzed cheats, and most people don't really care what you think anyway so whatever.
If you genuinely believe they cheat, you can ask Deadcode or MonkeyIsland to test them. They can catch people who use macros and scripts with ease.
Also, Lupastic is below average at Tower Race, he couldn't beat any good roper who actually practised it.
I've already challenged him and he conveniently ignored it because he sucks lol.
To be honest I was drunk last night and wouldn't waste my time on such a selfish person anyway doing something I already know.
In fact most of the schemes he's high in statistics he wouldn't be so high if he played better players more often.
He definitely does not avoid top players, but he sure as hell noob bashes as much as possible.
Lupastic can lie, but his statistics and game history does not.
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Do you think I offer money in Cups JUST to get people to join?
Your ignorance never ceases to make me laugh lol.
Even if this game had thousands of active players I would still put money into the Cups and TRL etc.
You are surely aware, that a lot of people who play this game are not very wealthy yes?
I am not wealthy by any means, the good technology I have was affordable over the course of 5-10 year because I'm not interested in expensive clothes or other materialistic possessions, I do not go on holidays multiple times a year, I scrimp and save everything possibly.
The reason I do this is so that it gives some other people a chance to make some extra money doing something they love doing so that they can maybe buy better technology, pay off some bills, go on vacation or whatever...
I'm committed to about £800+ every year to TUS events etc, that prize pool will grow with other generous players like Walrus, sniper, Korydex, oldsock, Senator and many others who contribute.
It's not about being desperate for activity, it's about being grateful enough to share with other people, it gives them an extra incentive to play, just having a prize makes the event feel more professional, it gathers more hype, more good players and creates a healthy competitive environment.
Not that you understand, or care, you really are one of the most selfish and toxic players I've ever seen in this game.
As for the rest of your delusional ignorant rant...
You're the only person who thinks blitzed cheats, and most people don't really care what you think anyway so whatever.
If you genuinely believe they cheat, you can ask Deadcode or MonkeyIsland to test them. They can catch people who use macros and scripts with ease.
Also, Lupastic is below average at Tower Race, he couldn't beat any good roper who actually practised it.
I've already challenged him and he conveniently ignored it because he sucks lol.
To be honest I was drunk last night and wouldn't waste my time on such a selfish person anyway doing something I already know.
In fact most of the schemes he's high in statistics he wouldn't be so high if he played better players more often.
He definitely does not avoid top players, but he sure as hell noob bashes as much as possible.
Lupastic can lie, but his statistics and game history does not.
Komo double spacing every sentence, blood pressure must be rising ;D
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Komo double spacing every sentence, blood pressure must be rising ;D
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It's easier to type like this, it's more convenient, separates things that are different, and easier to read/find specific parts.
I've been writing like this ever since I found out about this method.
I type up to 130wpm, it's very casual for me lol.
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Komo double spacing every sentence, blood pressure must be rising ;D
I have wrote him the same thing recently, but he keep building his walls of text :D
Why should one player forcing another to play a scheme he doesn't want to? Why can't we change these rules? Guys, just play that scheme that you BOTH enjoys. Simply and easily.
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I have wrote him the same thing recently, but he keep building his walls of text :D
Why should one player forcing another to play a scheme he doesn't want to? Why can't we change these rules? Guys, just play that scheme that you BOTH enjoys. Simply and easily.
Very interesting, you just did the very thing you complained about me doing! :D
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Very interesting, you just did the very thing you complained about me doing! :D
In my case this is the correct segregation of paragraphs, because there are 2 completely different thoughts. :)
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In my case this is the correct segregation of paragraphs, because there are 2 completely different thoughts. :)
Correct? Says who lol? Is there a universal law on how we should read and write on the internet?
The way I type is the same way most people who think deeply speak, they say a sentence and a bunch of stuff together separated with commas.
After a few moments with a brief pause, they continue to speak which establishes the gap between each train of thought.
The way I type is very effective and easier to digest and more useful in a forum environment where people constantly quote each other, and need to look back at various threads for relative information.
If I were writing an email, or a peer reviewed article, then I would follow the formal way of writing there.
More people should write like this in my opinion, it's very useful, quicker to read, easier to digest, easier to differentiate, easier to keep track of your position due to the memory and eyesight of humans and their pattern recognition doing an internal measurement with the different lengths of each sentence.
Sure, a few people complain about it, but most people, once they actually realize it, are usually appreciative of people who speak and write more clearly and efficiently.
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Correct? Says who lol?
I say.
Is there a universal law on how we should read and write on the internet?
Yes there are formal writing / copywriting rules. Try to read any article, book, or even newspaper (damn it), online or offline... And you will see a big difference.
The way I type is the same way most people who think deeply speak, they say a sentence and a bunch of stuff together separated with commas.
This is an irrelevant statement and demagoguery, you are overcomplicating again. We're only talking about paragraph separation and your artificial increasing post's size in that case. I've never complained you of using commas or 'bunch of stuff together'.
After a few moments with a brief pause, they continue to speak which establishes the gap between each train of thought.
This is not such a strong gap between of thoughts, not worth to start an every sentence from a new paragraph, this is insanity.
The way I type is very effective and easier to digest and more useful in a forum environment where people constantly quote each other, and need to look back at various threads for relative information.
It is only your opinion. I completely disagree with it, for me it looks like an artificial increase a size of the post to show false depth of thought and your own ego.
If I were writing an email, or a peer reviewed article, then I would follow the formal way of writing there.
I'm not sure you are able to do this... Will you prove me wrong? :D
Sure, a few people complain about it, but most people, once they actually realize it, are usually appreciative of people who speak and write more clearly and efficiently.
I think that the words "clearly" and "efficiently" doesn't applicable to your writing style. :) I guess the "demagogery" and "overwhelm" fits more. :)
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Sorry flashR, the world, and more specifically, this forum, does not revolve around you.
Try brainwashing someone else.
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Sorry flashR, the world, and more specifically, this forum, does not revolve around you.
Try brainwashing someone else.
Ok.
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holy shit you guys rly don't know how to let go clearly.. much fixation I see :D like 2 Karens on the street. you always find each other every 3 days in the comment section of a reported league game, and it restarts over and over again, and you just keep on spamming and spamming bullshits endlessly.. :'D
I will keep speaking up against retarded cheaters though ^^ to me its hilarous that someone is still cheating in a half-dead worms game in 2024 by using tools to help roping :D most known scripters/macroing cheaters are kinda away or inactive from this game now thankfully (asbest, micro, runaway) its sad someone still does it in league games even now.. pathetic.
however I never backed down from challenging even cheaters in their favorite rope games! you can bring fingerrolls, macros, programs, any tools to help you like a retard, you gonna lose in tower and in many other schemes vs the Lup :-*
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holy shit you guys rly don't know how to let go clearly.. much fixation I see :D like 2 Karens on the street. you always find each other every 3 days in the comment section of a reported league game, and it restarts over and over again, and you just keep on spamming and spamming bullshits endlessly.. :'D
He's chasing me everywhere, I'm not guilty. ;D
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Advanced audio and camera equipment won't cut it. This is what is required for you to show that you are true.
1. Order plane tickets to anyone who wishes to monitor, judge, and evaluate your biological authenticity, and gameplay.
2. Blood and stool test.
3. Take your crowd with you to tech store, to purchase brand new PC, and untouched modified peripherals.
4. Purchase 100 4k webcam to set up all over your room.
5. Upgrade network bandwidth to max.
6. Have Lupastic, Shtaket, and anyone really, to study the PC, and anything connected to it thoroughly.
7. Play on maps selected by stream participants as well as people there with you.
8. Hire Seth MacFarlane to do Peter Griffin Impressions while you play.
If I missed anything, let us know.
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As a linguist, I agree with flashR about the text formatting (although being a linguist does not make what I say necessarily true, rather, I just want to present my point of view). Yes, internet is a free place, you can write your posts however you want, but I think we also reserve the right to criticize you for it. Sure, since you are not writing these posts in an official environment, it indeed makes more sense to form criticism on subjective criteria (I don't like it because X, I prefer Y because Z) rather than on an objective one (you are incorrect because X, it should be Y because Z). But that applies to you, Komo, so:
The way I type is very effective and easier to digest and more useful in a forum environment where people constantly quote each other, and need to look back at various threads for relative information.
This has no objective basis, you THINK it is effective, easier to digest and more useful in a forum environment, but the fact that I, one of your fellow forum readers, disagree with this notion proves that this is not an objective fact. I could say using five-word sentences is very effective and easier to digest (because shorter sentences), and more useful in a forum environment where most people have short attention span, but would you say it's an objective fact:
Folks, five words is enough. Five word sentences are fantastic. That I can tell you. And I am really smart. Believe me, I know words. I have the best words. Everyone agrees, and that's true. Now you look at Mexico. And you look at China. And you count their words. And it's too many, folks. Too many words, too many. Now I look into this crowd. And I see smart people. Smart people with five words. Maybe some who have six. But that's pushing it folks. I had Putin call me. He said, 'you know words'. 'How many should I use?' I said to use five. Because five words is enough. I can be so presidential. So presidential, with five words. It's tremendous, they tell me. Crooked Hillary uses too many. Always sick, too many words. You just can't trust her. Too many words to trust. Vote Trump, and believe me. We'll make America great again.
Is there a universal law on how we should read and write on the internet?
No, but it's a bad arguement. I could write all my posts like this:
A vheclie exlpedod at a plocie cehckipont naer the UN haduqertares in Bagahdd on Mnoday kilinlg the bmober and an Irqai polcie offceir
And argue that I don't have to worry about correct spellings since most people can decipher every word, but that doesn't mean I should write like that.
I would also argue that proper paragraphing (in the linguistic sense) is better than double-spacing every sentence. It makes more sense to separate sentences by their content rather than separating them indiscriminately, because I think most people can find what they want to quote more easily that way. I assume you're suggesting that double-spacing each sentence makes it easier to quote because you can more easily see where a sentence begins and ends, but seriously, if you want to quote a particular sentence, how hard is it to delete the sentences before and after it? I think making it easier to find the sentence makes more sense in this respect.
By the way, maybe a better alternative would be to incorporate bullet lists in your posts? Bullet points are shorter than traditional paragraphs, and you can even group them using sub-bullet points. I would argue that the new official Darts description (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-1137/) is better formatted for most people than the old one (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-745/).
Hope you guys don't mind me barging into your flame war lol, I just really love linguistics.
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See that's the thing that bothers me.
You've learned to read and write a way that someone decided is the way they like doing it. It isn't objectively the best way to do it, it's just the most common way. Also, yes I'm saying it subjectively for the way I do it as I've seen the evidence for it.
The point I am making - 6 of one a half dozen of the other.
Same destination, multiple paths.
If you don't like it, then don't read it. I'm not forcing you, but I know it's more effective for the reasons I do it this way and this is the way I will continue to write on forums.
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flashR, you're the one who started this nonsense a few weeks ago when you critisized the way I type, I'll stop when you stop.
Why nonsense? This is true. I wrote this after you've started flooding me again with a huge mass of text, the half of which was off topic. It was difficult for me to read it, so I've started criticizing this "every sentence to a new paragraph" style. Walrus noticed the same thing btw.
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You've learned to read and write a way that someone decided is the way they like doing it. It isn't objectively the best way to do it, it's just the most common way. Also, yes I'm saying it subjectively for the way I do it as I've seen the evidence for it.
I would argue that the common way IS the better way, as you use these posts to communicate with other people, rather than just writing them down in your journal for your own viewing pleasure.
Your style of writing doesn't really bother me anyway. Actually, your writing style kinda reminds me of instant messaging (sending messages sentence-by-sentence), so I don't mind. I mean, it would definitely be more annoying if you never used any double-space. ;D
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I would also argue that proper paragraphing (in the linguistic sense) is better than double-spacing every sentence. It makes more sense to separate sentences by their content rather than separating them indiscriminately, because I think most people can find what they want to quote more easily that way.
Agreed 100%. But it seems like Komodo will never understand this. :D
Bullet points are shorter than traditional paragraphs, and you can even group them using sub-bullet points. I would argue that the new official Darts description (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-1137/) is better formatted for most people than the old one (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-745/).
The new description is surely better formatted and much easier to understand and read.
Hope you guys don't mind me barging into your flame war lol, I just really love linguistics.
Sure, you are welcome. ;D I used to work as a copywriter in the past btw, therefore I could have write a lot about this topic as well, but I didn't want to argue.
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I just want to clear something up by the way.
When I said about roping faster than those guys, micro and shtaket are FAR more consistent than me, those guys are AMAZING at Big RR.
Not even sure I'll ever be consistent again, the amount of practise it requires is ridiculous at this age lol.
I would argue that the common way IS the better way, as you use these posts to communicate with other people, rather than just writing them down in your journal for your own viewing pleasure.
Of course, because that's what you are used to, and usually people don't like change, especially when presented with it without them asking for it! :D
I write this way, because I personally like it and found it to be more useful!
I still interpret other techniques/methods and am fine reading those as well when actually required.
Agreed 100%. But it seems like Komodo will never understand this. :D
Of course I understand it, just don't agree with it, you clearly need to learn tolerance and how to accept other peoples perspectives.
I am not telling you to write a certain way, you're the one being selfish and ignorant trying to tell me what to do when there is no universal law about it, it doesn't hurt anyone or doesn't affect anyone negatively only by their own subjective hatred.
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Lately I'm lazy to read all comments on TUS. I wonder if Monkey Island reads all stuff that is going on all these years. Specially when Komo joins the discussion, what is very common, I confess I loose a bit of interest to continue reading the discussion.
Something that is strange for me is to see exclamation points all the time. On a poem I could understand it, but even on poems it's rare to see so many exclamation points. I never seen Komo talking the way he writes on his streams, I know that a forum and a stream are different environments. But, man I really can't imagine someone talking with so many exclamation points like we're experiencing here!
Because it looks like that someone is unnaturally happy all the time! You gotta read to understand it!
Imagine someone talking like this on a hospital!
Imagine someone talking to you like this on the street!
Then I think on Lupastic's emojis and I wonder if he talks using emojis in real life lol. Making faces every sentence and calling people he is not close to with nicknames he created. My favorite is Daddycode lol.
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Not even sure I'll ever be consistent again, the amount of practise it requires is ridiculous at this age lol.
This is bullshit. If you were 60-70+ I'd agree. In general, people often blame their age as an excuse. I am not even talking about athletic sports. If you have the same amount of excitement, enjoyment, will and desire, you can do what you did before.
When I said about roping faster than those guys, micro and shtaket are FAR more consistent than me, those guys are AMAZING at Big RR.
Oh, some names has been dropped here. These names have openly admitted to use third party tools/gimmicks to rope better.
Someone said somewhere something like ''If a pro roper learns to play hardcore maps / towers, they will crush anyone who already plays it''. I have had people who are ''pro'' in my ZaR RRs. These people have played a lot of ZaR RR, but still they rage quit after a few fails now and then. Perhaps some aren't as adaptable. Which leads us back to ''age''. Some people are so embedded in to things they already have learned, it makes it hard for them to adapt to a new way.
(https://c.tenor.com/nXhfMzITuB8AAAAC/yoda-you-must-unlearn-what-you-have-learned.gif)
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Yes the hackdoublespecialkey ropef@#!ers
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Ahaha, Komodo's ass is on fire now. :D I don't even wanna quote his last post, pure madness :D
Yes the hackdoublespecialkey ropef@#!ers
I think no one of the ropers doesn't need a drunken football commentators here.
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It's quite amusing watching you all analyse the way people write, instead of the points of what they are actually saying.
Why would I need to talk the same way I write? You do not see body language via text so emphasis and emoji help.
Kradie, of course you wouldn't understand because you aren't even close to being a top player, so it's very easy for me to rope at your level within even a few weeks of practise.
To be as consistent as Sir-J or Masta at that speed is something you will never achieve, in my opinion, you may yet who knows, personally I'd like to see it but whatever.
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Why would I need to talk the same way I write?
Wait, you said that you write the same way as most people who think deeply (meant yourself, obviously) speak. So if you write the same way as you speak, then you speak the same way as you write. L - Logic. Is that right?
Proof:
The way I type is the same way most people who think deeply speak, they say a sentence and a bunch of stuff together separated with commas. After a few moments with a brief pause, they continue to speak which establishes the gap between each train of thought.
You do not see body language via text
Exactly, this is the reason why we need to pay x2 attention to the way people write. :)
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Kradie, of course you wouldn't understand because you aren't even close to being a top player, so it's very easy for me to rope at your level within even a few weeks of practise.
To be as consistent as Sir-J or Masta at that speed is something you will never achieve, in my opinion, you may yet who knows, personally I'd like to see it but whatever.
You are quite haughty with your assumptions. I never claimed to be the best. But I claim to understand due to personal experience. You lack insight due to nepotism, and bias.
Come to my game in WA and face me in BIG ZAR RR. Let's game a few rounds.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812421407933857802/1215374235812364298/2024-03-07_18.22.18_Online_dF-Kradiezar_Trey_rUNaW4y.WAgame?ex=660ef976&is=65fc8476&hm=5ce293a9e612b76bb58d85f7998210c9fb83bb547f97f5ddd1db53027b12f82d&
Edit: I do not praise nor endorse people who uses tools to enhance their skills.
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Komito TheKaren, you fapping to your favorite cheaters in roping schemes has always been - and even now - is cringy and boring. (Probably to everyone, not just to me.)
as Sir-J or Masta at that speed
When you mention these random names (and others too, probably known for macros and tools as well) out of nowhere and start blablaing about "XY is the best, no one can challenge him" you need to remember there's like roughly ~150 schemes overall in worms armageddon ever created, and they'd lose to me at least in 140/150, but not just vs me, there has been other very colorful players.
what I have always liked about WA is how vast varity of schemes we have, and each consisting different ways to play. remember the forum topic where we discussed who might considered to be the "all time best player" ? well first of all this is very hard to determine, but surely not the quick tap scripters + cheaters you like to mention over and over again. they wouldn't even be in top 15. it's mostly about; when you have such a big palette of schemes to choose from, putting 2 players there and see which one of them muster more schemes and thus, get wins ^.- not sure why I'd like to "convince" you of anything, you are like the most annoying and smallest salty Karen I have seen, mate (: innit.
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*edit*: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/top-5-players-clans-of-all-time-28128/60/
was the thread I was mentioning
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Dear Lupastic please stop calling the veteran player a cheater, moreover you don't have any proofs
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Bro stopped taking his pills
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as Sir-J or Masta at that speed
When you mention these random names (and others too, probably known for macros and tools as well)
Sir-J literally posted a vid of him playing TTRR, with keyboard cam and everything, and he only used one remapped space key (Q), and nothing else (beside a quality mechanical keyboard and his own skills), so refrain from resorting to baseless accusations.
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When you mention these random names (and others too, probably known for macros and tools as well)
Sir-J literally posted a vid of him playing TTRR, with keyboard and everything, and he only used one remapped space key (Q), and nothing else (beside a quality mechanical keyboard and his own skills), so refrain from resorting to baseless accusations.
thats the best roping ive seen on video for sure
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Wait, you said that you write the same way as most people who think deeply (meant yourself, obviously) speak. So if you write the same way as you speak, then you speak the same way as you write. L - Logic. Is that right?
Think of the way someone speaks publically...
They will say a sentence...
*Pause a bit longer than usual while they think of the perfect words to say*
Then they continue.
Here's an idea though, if it's that important to you, then just decrease the size of your browsing window, and it'll look like longer paragraphs! :P
thats the best roping ive seen on video for sure
Sir-J is in my top 5 of all time, but for competitive TTRR and Big RR, not for roping in general.
Warmers are still vastly more impressive to me and always will be, there are like 20-30 ropers more impressive to me from my memory. Sir-J told me he's not even interested in Warmers, though I feel like I can say with confidence that if he chose to do so, he'd probably be one of the best ever.
Speaking of which, Imma go a stream warmer for a bit I'm in a very good mood!
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Calling out dibz on community forum and trying to convince people that he's cheating...wasn't the brightest move.
You're now digging that hole even further, so listen to Kory and just stop typing.
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Sir-J told me he's not even interested in Warmers, though I feel like I can say with confidence that if he chose to do so, he'd probably be one of the best ever.
He did an excellent run on the latest trick race challenge, so he can definitely handle freestyle roping.
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He did an excellent run on the latest trick race challenge, so he can definitely handle freestyle roping.
Lmao trick race isn't warming.
I stand by what I said but just because you can do specific tricks that are choreographed doesn't mean you can play from the heart and chain together stuff you wouldn't see in any other schemes.
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From a spectator view with basic to no knowledge of WA, could find watching a warmer tedious. That's because they do not understand what is happening and the tricks people perform. Having said this, I personally find warmers tedious and a waste of time. It is like a sandbox, free roam. Eventually you will get bored of it. You get much more from other rope games than a warmer because there's more objectives to do, and fun to be had. Warmer is just a niche scheme for a few select people and their acolytes. Real skill is shown in other rope schemes, not aimless spectacle of showoff. Of course I am speaking for myself. Then again I do not see any warmers on wormnet as frequently.
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From a spectator view with basic to no knowledge of WA, could find watching a warmer tedious. That's because they do not understand what is happening and the tricks people perform. Having said this, I personally find warmers tedious and a waste of time. It is like a sandbox, free roam. Eventually you will get bored of it. You get much more from other rope games than a warmer because there's more objectives to do, and fun to be had. Warmer is just a niche scheme for a few select people and their acolytes. Real skill is shown in other rope schemes, not aimless spectacle of showoff. Of course I am speaking for myself. Then again I do not see any warmers on wormnet as frequently.
Warmer is more artistic than any other scheme and for me it's the top of rope schemes in terms of skill. Because there are no limits. In RR you go through the same paterns all the time doing the same moves with muscle memory. Roper offers more variable roping but it has it's limitations and has a serious luck factor.
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Warmer is more artistic than any other scheme and for me it's the top of rope schemes in terms of skill. Because there are no limits. In RR you go through the same paterns all the time doing the same moves with muscle memory. Roper offers more variable roping but it has it's limitations and has a serious luck factor.
That solely depends on the RR map (Not counting Tower) in this case. If you play a map that offers variety of paths, you will get different approaches that could accompany a person's style. A standard barebone boxed RR is more predictable and less exciting. Of course with all rope schemes we have consistency, speed, and style which is impressive in itself.
I am not sure if luck factor should be correlated with a person's roper style of choice.
But I respect your opinion though.
In the end it depends on who you as, I don't think there is a right or wrong answer here. It is like discussing basketball and football. Any elements has its merits and whatnot.
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Kradie the only thing you like is zar no parachute. :D
What Korydex said.
I love warmers, wish they were active, but most people chose easier schemes these days.
Warmers are the pinnacle of rope skill in terms of control and crestivity, nothing else even comes close.
Even in the rope challenges I'm faster than Masta and Sir-J but I always mess-up... Those guys are just absolutely mesmerisingly consistent. I get to the first 10-40 seconds faster than them(not by much but still) then it all goes wrong.
I'm faster because of my Warming skills, they are just much better because they spent as much time doing actual serious races as I did warmers.
Anyway. What Korydex said.
I like ZaR, and had anyone else made it I might actually play it lol, Kradie ruins it for me though.
Kradie is right about one thing though. It applies to the entire game in general though...
Most people don't understand how impressive this game is because on a surface level its a wacky casual game you play with your mates.
When they actually take the time to try any the stuff we all do that's when their minds are blown.
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Kradie the only thing you like is zar no parachute. :D
What Korydex said.
I love warmers, wish they were active, but most people chose easier schemes these days.
Warmers are the pinnacle of rope skill in terms of control and crestivity, nothing else even comes close.
Even in the rope challenges I'm faster than Masta and Sir-J but I always mess-up... Those guys are just absolutely mesmerisingly consistent. I get to the first 10-40 seconds faster than them(not by much but still) then it all goes wrong.
I'm faster because of my Warming skills, they are just much better because they spent as much time doing actual serious races as I did warmers.
Anyway. What Korydex said.
I like ZaR, and had anyone else made it I might actually play it lol, Kradie ruins it for me though.
Kradie is right about one thing though. It applies to the entire game in general though...
Most people don't understand how impressive this game is because on a surface level its a wacky casual game you play with your mates.
When they actually take the time to try any the stuff we all do that's when their minds are blown.
You are like me then. We're both fast but lack consistency now and then. None of my games here on TUS has really demonstrated my speed anyway.
J and Masta are both great players, there was never a doubt. I just never cared about being the best. I never cared for points. I only care for contribution, and solidarity. Having a good time with the fellow commoner here in WA. But then again maybe Masta e.g, never cared about being the best either. Nothing wrong being the best. It is a source of inspiration.- But my prioritize are different.
It is great that you confirmed my suspicion that you and perhaps other old schooler have avoided ZaR because I endorsed it. I made it with sm0k btw. But the argument from you could be that he is not the one playing and expressing themselves, you are, Kradie. I do not know how and when your personal feud against me began, yet we never had a normal chat, game, and talk for 9 years. But yet you have allowed whatever this is, to come between the us, two pillars of community of WA. We should Instead recognize each other accomplishments, strength, and work with recognition for the solidarity of the WA community. But can you do this? Somehow I doubt, but I been wrong before.
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I'm locking this thread. I don't see it going anywhere useful.