Pretty lame from you Dub once again. I and Daina won't play with you again, but enjoy your points, we know they make you happy.
Quote from: lalo on May 05, 2011, 06:53 PM
Pretty lame from you Dub once again. I and Daina won't play with you again, but enjoy your points, we know they make you happy.
There is no need for this attitude. You are acting very childish. What was lame was you and Daina quiting.
Personally I don't think that was an illegal move. Despite not being intentional, it wasn't your average block. ;s
Quote from: darKz on May 05, 2011, 07:00 PM
Personally I don't think that was an illegal move. Despite not being intentional, it wasn't your average block. ;s
I know it wasn't intentional nor illegal, but we wouldn't have done that, that's all :).
You could have easily come out from there and even the crate was close, this could have been avoided I think... :( And yea, neither do I think it was intentional. :-X Too bad this happened.
If it's self-inflicted, it's not a block -> your own partner knocks/attacks you into a block with the enemy. Tough luck.
But if your partner blocks the enemy using your worm with a knock/attack, accidental or not, that's a block. Take penalty.
Dub blocked lalo at the very beginning (worm placement), even if it wasn't a permanent one, it's still illegal imo.
i dont know if it was legal or not , i dont care
ray: thats not the point :)
and as lalo said , we wont claner u again because we simply dont hf playin with u
why do u plays anyway? always bitching about us
Quote from: franz on May 05, 2011, 07:59 PM
If it's self-inflicted, it's not a block -> your own partner knocks/attacks you into a block with the enemy. Tough luck.
But if your partner blocks the enemy using your worm with a knock/attack, accidental or not, that's a block. Take penalty.
You are wrong.
lalo, daina bit unfair not to play us again imo. I have fun playing you I dont see why you wouldn't have fun playing us. it's good competition. we never bitch about u btw.
I don't understand your+lalos comments. EACH player is different just cos u wouldn't have done something doesn't mean we have to do the same at the end of the day. plz dont avoid, no need to fall out over such a little pathetic thing... ;S
aww butthurts
Quote from: dibz on May 06, 2011, 01:08 PM
lalo, daina bit unfair not to play us again imo. I have fun playing you I dont see why you wouldn't have fun playing us. it's good competition. we never bitch about u btw.
I don't understand your+lalos comments. EACH player is different just cos u wouldn't have done something doesn't mean we have to do the same at the end of the day. plz dont avoid, no need to fall out over such a little pathetic thing... ;S
We are ok with you Dibz, we just won't clanner against Dub again. We have been tolerating his big mouth for a long time without replying his taunts. We have a lot of patience, but he exhauted it.
Quote from: dibz on May 06, 2011, 01:08 PM
lalo, daina bit unfair not to play us again imo. I have fun playing you I dont see why you wouldn't have fun playing us. it's good competition. we never bitch about u btw.
I don't understand your+lalos comments. EACH player is different just cos u wouldn't have done something doesn't mean we have to do the same at the end of the day. plz dont avoid, no need to fall out over such a little pathetic thing... ;S
It's not you dibz, never has been, please remember that.
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 04:31 PM
Quote from: dibz on May 06, 2011, 01:08 PM
lalo, daina bit unfair not to play us again imo. I have fun playing you I dont see why you wouldn't have fun playing us. it's good competition. we never bitch about u btw.
I don't understand your+lalos comments. EACH player is different just cos u wouldn't have done something doesn't mean we have to do the same at the end of the day. plz dont avoid, no need to fall out over such a little pathetic thing... ;S
It's not you dibz, never has been, please remember that.
get a room ;)
Quote from: oldsock on May 06, 2011, 04:41 PM
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 04:31 PM
Quote from: dibz on May 06, 2011, 01:08 PM
lalo, daina bit unfair not to play us again imo. I have fun playing you I dont see why you wouldn't have fun playing us. it's good competition. we never bitch about u btw.
I don't understand your+lalos comments. EACH player is different just cos u wouldn't have done something doesn't mean we have to do the same at the end of the day. plz dont avoid, no need to fall out over such a little pathetic thing... ;S
It's not you dibz, never has been, please remember that.
K xD
get a room ;)
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 04:53 PM
Quote from: oldsock on May 06, 2011, 04:41 PM
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 04:31 PM
Quote from: dibz on May 06, 2011, 01:08 PM
lalo, daina bit unfair not to play us again imo. I have fun playing you I dont see why you wouldn't have fun playing us. it's good competition. we never bitch about u btw.
I don't understand your+lalos comments. EACH player is different just cos u wouldn't have done something doesn't mean we have to do the same at the end of the day. plz dont avoid, no need to fall out over such a little pathetic thing... ;S
It's not you dibz, never has been, please remember that.
K xD
get a room ;)
lets play some chess? bored @ work xD
Can't mate, just going out, maybe later si xD
Quote from: lalo on May 06, 2011, 04:28 PM
Quote from: dibz on May 06, 2011, 01:08 PM
lalo, daina bit unfair not to play us again imo. I have fun playing you I dont see why you wouldn't have fun playing us. it's good competition. we never bitch about u btw.
I don't understand your+lalos comments. EACH player is different just cos u wouldn't have done something doesn't mean we have to do the same at the end of the day. plz dont avoid, no need to fall out over such a little pathetic thing... ;S
We are ok with you Dibz, we just won't clanner against Dub again. We have been tolerating his big mouth for a long time without replying his taunts. We have a lot of patience, but he exhauted it.
i remember once u and komo were being a cuple of faggots bitching on dub , well actually it was lalo and dub , and thats was ok , was even being funny xD
and so komo joined to that wordfight with no reason , just to troll around, and being a total stupid man without any little intelligence talking stuff about his brother , it was even annoying me , and i had nothing to do on it ...
...that thing about tolerance and patience is just unbelievable
oh and i saw a game , an hysteria if im right , where shui was insulting dub and his brother in spanish (lol) , only because cfc was losing xD
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if u are avoiding dub , u are avoiding mm
what if u pick ttrr/roper/wxw against nino and dibz , and nino call dub to play it ... are u gonna demand that nino has to play? are u gonna void the game? are u gonna give a free win ?
just chill lalo/daina , that knock was not even intentional , he obviously wanted to knock lalo to hit him
and he didnt even broke any rule , ye was kinda cheap , but ffs when is the ppl gonna understand that they are playing league games? if someone wanna play fun , go ahead , a lot of ppl is gonna join to the host ...
a rm could be a possible solution lol , but " i and daina won't play against dub " is just not a solution , dub is not even cheap or a kind of zippo lol
actually i hate a lot of ppl from cfc and i would prefer not to play them , but i never avoid them... i even enjoy beating them
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 05:38 PM
Can't mate, just going out, maybe later si xD
K xD >:(
i wont talk much about this case, which is for sure waste of time.
just let me know if u are going to avoid us for real, if ur decision is yes, mm is going to avoid whole cfc, sorry for this but small decisions sometimes gets big.
if u decide to dont avoid , mm will not avoid of course and all will be fun as should be.
lalo i like you u r cool, daina is one of the most boring person ive meet in the net, and still play and stuff with her.
so please think a bit more b4 take this decision ae :)
Quote from: Guaton on May 06, 2011, 05:57 PM
and so komo joined to that wordfight with no reason , just to troll around,
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 04:31 PM
It's not you dibz, never has been, please remember that.
I never said a bad word in this entire thread...
nino, pffft, you know me and you have <3 wtf...
ye komo still <3.
but cant do much if lalo and daina avoid dub. =/ lets hope they think a bit about this and take it easy ae :)
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Guaton on May 06, 2011, 05:57 PM
and so komo joined to that wordfight with no reason , just to troll around,
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 04:31 PM
It's not you dibz, never has been, please remember that.
I never said a bad word in this entire thread...
nino, pffft, you know me and you have <3 wtf...
i was talking about that time on wormnet , ag , you were drunk
and im not gonna smite u back , not gonna waste more time on u
Quote from: Guaton on May 06, 2011, 07:51 PM
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Guaton on May 06, 2011, 05:57 PM
and so komo joined to that wordfight with no reason , just to troll around,
Quote from: Komito on May 06, 2011, 04:31 PM
It's not you dibz, never has been, please remember that.
I never said a bad word in this entire thread...
nino, pffft, you know me and you have <3 wtf...
i was talking about that time on wormnet , ag , you were drunk
and im not gonna smite u back , not gonna waste more time on u
Guaton, omg, I seriously didn't smite you... Ask MI he has a record of smites...
And I was drunk lol, so what, I talk even more crap when i'm drunk lol it's fun xD
come on shady, i used to think u are a really nice guy. so just admit u handelt that situation wrong. u told maciej his behavior in clanner was not correct, maybe u should work on ur own. imo it was disrespectful against cfc and thats why they left game. maybe im wrong with my interpretation is wrong but i used to know mm as cool guys with a lot of skill havin just fun in their clanners. but in this case u jerked off on an unlucky situation happened to your opponents.
Quote from: Peja on May 06, 2011, 10:33 PM
come on shady, i used to think u are a really nice guy. so just admit u handelt that situation wrong. u told maciej his behavior in clanner was not correct, maybe u should work on ur own. imo it was disrespectful against cfc and thats why they left game. maybe im wrong with my interpretation is wrong but i used to know mm as cool guys with a lot of skill havin just fun in their clanners. but in this case u jerked off on an unlucky situation happened to your opponents.
u cant compare maciej's behaviour with dub , u just cant , i think u dont even know how maciej used to be ... plus u dont even know dub to give some opinion about his behaviour
u are rly going in a bad way talking about mm in general , this was just an unlucky situation and they (dibz and dub ) were playing a clanner league which mean they are not playing to their own , they are playing for whole group of guys
Worms is no different to any other game or sport when it comes to playing in a league. You have the rules you have to follow by the book, written in the FAQ of the league. But you also have the unwritten rules, the norms of a community/society which everyone agrees upon even though you ARE allowed to brake them without being "punished". The punishment is being disrespected by the rest of the community.
If it this was a new clan doing this, or a new player, playing against CFC and doing this in a clanner, I don`t think it would create such a great "drama" as in this case. It would be more acceptable, because they are new to the game and they haven`t played enough to understand every aspect of playing in the league (sportmanship). Dub is one of the most experienced players in this game though, and I think his behaviour in this game is unaccaptable and I truly believe he regrets it after having thought about the situation. He knows that he shouldn`t have attacked that worm after collecting those crates. We`re a small community and we don`t play after this kind of "cold" behaviour.
I don`t want to blame dibz here though, he is a nice and fair player and I don`t believe he would have acted the same way. I feel the only right thing is Dub to come with an apology to lalo and daina, even though I know it might be hard for him. But seriously Dub, just apologize in this thread and make friends again. We can`t have two clans of mm and cfc capacity ignoring each other, it would kill the clan ladder. And you know im right ;P
Quote from: Peja on May 06, 2011, 10:33 PM
come on shady, i used to think u are a really nice guy. so just admit u handelt that situation wrong. u told maciej his behavior in clanner was not correct, maybe u should work on ur own. imo it was disrespectful against cfc and thats why they left game. maybe im wrong with my interpretation is wrong but i used to know mm as cool guys with a lot of skill havin just fun in their clanners. but in this case u jerked off on an unlucky situation happened to your opponents.
This is ridiculous. I wasn't talking smack to Dibz or to cfc so your comparison is greatly flawed.
Dibz worm did not block lalo. After a knock thats how they ended up. Look at it this way; you zook 2 worms which are piled and the other teams worm ends up blocked after.
Quote from: Crazy on May 06, 2011, 10:55 PM
Worms is no different to any other game or sport when it comes to playing in a league. You have the rules you have to follow by the book, written in the FAQ of the league. But you also have the unwritten rules, the norms of a community/society which everyone agrees upon even though you ARE allowed to brake them without being "punished". The punishment is being disrespected by the rest of the community.
If it this was a new clan doing this, or a new player, playing against CFC and doing this in a clanner, I don`t think it would create such a great "drama" as in this case. It would be more acceptable, because they are new to the game and they haven`t played enough to understand every aspect of playing in the league (sportmanship). Dub is one of the most experienced players in this game though, and I think his behaviour in this game is unaccaptable and I truly believe he regrets it after having thought about the situation. He knows that he shouldn`t have attacked that worm after collecting those crates. We`re a small community and we don`t play after this kind of "cold" behaviour.
I don`t want to blame dibz here though, he is a nice and fair player and I don`t believe he would have acted the same way. I feel the only right thing is Dub to come with an apology to lalo and daina, even though I know it might be hard for him. But seriously Dub, just apologize in this thread and make friends again. We can`t have two clans of mm and cfc capacity ignoring each other, it would kill the clan ladder. And you know im right ;P
It was legal and if someone could actually do it on purpose then it would be an awesome move of skill. It was nothing to whine about. The cr8 landed close, there was lots of space for Lalo to knock get the cr8 and attack. This has happened before lots of time. Most people knock get out and move on without whining.
They quit the game, they were the ones who were disrespectful to me and Dibz. You have it twisted.
It surely would be an awesome move of skill, but it would kill the guys reputation ;P Where the crate landed has nothing to do with the case in my opinion, it would be the same if it landed on a difficult spot. People clearly have different opinion on this bisarre case, it doesn`t occure often (luckily), I just hope it won`t have long term affects for the relationship between mm and cfc.
Quote from: Crazy on May 06, 2011, 11:15 PM
It surely would be an awesome move of skill, but it would kill the guys reputation ;P
I don't understand this.
Stop being so damn stubborn Dub. I`ts because it goes against everything the games stands for, it goes against the ethical part of the game. It`s like a soccer player being great at faking when he falls when he really isn`t falling (he is filming in order to get an advantage).
Quote from: Guaton on May 06, 2011, 10:55 PM
u cant compare maciej's behaviour with dub , u just cant , i think u dont even know how maciej used to be ... plus u dont even know dub to give some opinion about his behaviour
u are rly going in a bad way talking about mm in general , this was just an unlucky situation and they (dibz and dub ) were playing a clanner league which mean they are not playing to their own , they are playing for whole group of guys
In a game of soccer you kick the ball off the goal post and it bounces back and hits the player on the other team in the head and goes into the net.
Does the other team cry and whine and say its not fair and attack the other teams personality.
Suck it up and move on.
This is going off topic though Dub. It`s impossible to be so skilled you can knock out your own partner to block your opponent on purpose from a pile.
Quote from: SnipeR` on May 06, 2011, 11:26 PM
Quote from: Guaton on May 06, 2011, 10:55 PM
u cant compare maciej's behaviour with dub
it was not my intention to compare the behavior of both. i just wanted to show the double standard.
just look at the chat
[cfc-lalo] well I'm bloqued now xD
[mm-dibz] soz :( f@#! it
[cfc-dainub] ..
[cfc-lalo] well that's not so fair :|
[mm-dibz] i will not attack rule right? i dunno
[mm-dibz] or skip w/e
and then:
[ThaShady1`mm] Nah attack
[ThaShady1`mm] Wasn't a blockl
its not really evil or an insult, but it shows u dont care for their situation. of course u can say its not illegal etc. but atleast u should show some understanding for the feelings of cfc. and after 1 day u still dont do it. i dont wanted to insult you, its just sad to see another useless trouble caused by an lack of communication.
Quote from: SnipeR` on May 06, 2011, 11:26 PM
Quote from: Guaton on May 06, 2011, 10:55 PM
u are rly going in a bad way talking about mm in general
i used to clanner alot with em during the time of LL, maybe the coolest clanners i ever played. the reason: they just enjoyed playing the game, a situation like that wouldnt cause any trouble.
Dibz asked a question. I answered.
f@#! anyone who is attacking my sportsmanship or my personality.
Many times I have shown good sportsmanship and done things in league games that 99% of the people in this league would not have done. How many of you called it a draw and said lets rm in a ttrr because all the other persons worms plopped? How many of you have rematched a roper because the other person had nothing but bad cr8s?
To me a clanner is a lot more serious of a game then just a 1v1 league game. I'm playing because its fun but also to win the clanner. The clanner is more serious because I have a whole group of people I don't want to let down by playing bad or losing.
I don't think there was anything wrong or illegal about that worm ending up being blocked. So I continued on with the game. Just because you have a different opinion don't attack my sportsmanship or personality. Just agree to disagree and move on.
[23:25:13] [okeii] Clanner ne1
[23:27:39] [sdainub] claner ne1
[23:28:00] ChanServ changes topic: [#AnythingGoes] 00 Open games with 'Rope Knocking' allowed & blood fx
[23:28:21] [nin0oo0o0o0o0o0] okeii we are up to clanner, all depends of u, me adun and dub
[23:28:27] [JR----normal] hi
[23:28:32] [lalo] no thx nino
[23:28:54] [nin0oo0o0o0o0o0] ok then u guys are going to avoid mm for real?
[23:29:16] [AL] !host shopper
[23:31:00] [sdainub] claner ne1
it is fine then, seems that cfc really took the decision to avoid mm for what happened in this game.
All i can say in the name of mm is sorry and that mm wont play cfc anymore too. thats not cool but thats as things are now.
Quote from: nino on May 07, 2011, 02:33 AM
[23:25:13] [okeii] Clanner ne1
[23:27:39] [sdainub] claner ne1
[23:28:00] ChanServ changes topic: [#AnythingGoes] 00 Open games with 'Rope Knocking' allowed & blood fx
[23:28:21] [nin0oo0o0o0o0o0] okeii we are up to clanner, all depends of u, me adun and dub
[23:28:27] [JR----normal] hi
[23:28:32] [lalo] no thx nino
[23:28:54] [nin0oo0o0o0o0o0] ok then u guys are going to avoid mm for real?
[23:29:16] [AL] !host shopper
[23:31:00] [sdainub] claner ne1
it is fine then, seems that cfc really took the decision to avoid mm for what happened in this game.
All i can say in the name of mm is sorry and that mm wont play cfc anymore too. thats not cool but thats as things are now.
nino, lalo and daina just do not want to play dub, and personally neither do I, dub isn't THAT bad, but I just never have fun playing against him or when he's around. I would still happily play the rest of mm, and nino, just to remind you, you said the same thing about zippo when he "joined bOr" and so did alot of other people, they won't play bOr when Zippo is around, and that is np for you, so don't be a hypocrit here please, it's really unfair, although I don't wanna play dub, I will not publicly insult him or talk about him behind his back, I still have respect for him.
aeeee <3 king nino xD
komo, dub cant be comparated with zippo in any way, c`mon mate wtf, daina and lalo is just taking it tooooo serious, and then if it is time to throw shit on fan... lets start throwing an elephants`s one :)
if dub were atleast 0.1% than zippo is, he would never join mm btw.
Quote from: nino on May 07, 2011, 03:21 AM
komo, dub cant be comparated with zippo in any way, c`mon mate wtf, daina and lalo is just taking it tooooo serious, and then if it is time to throw shit on fan... lets start throwing an elephants`s one :)
if dub were atleast 0.1% than zippo is, he would never join mm btw.
nino, that is irrelevant, I like you, I don't like him, accept it and let us be man enough to continue our friendship and you and dub continue your friendship?
who said ill break up our friendship? we are still friends, and u has the right to dont like dub, you and whole world, thats not my problem, i just expected more respect with mm since everyone knows me, i try to be cool as much as i can with almost everyone in here, iam not comming here in defense of dub btw, iam comming here in defence of mm, because we will be penalized because lalo and daina dont like him, same as nail and whole bor would be penalized for recruiting zippo, which ye mm would avoid them because of zippo, but once again, zippo is zippo.
we are up to keep it nice still komo, since daina and lalo chill a bit and stop that, mm will be glad of it and no hard feeling.
Thats what the king expect.
Just remember, I do respect mm though.
now that I watched the turn, it was vfnj from both of u Dibz and Dub-c [: vgj it rly won u the game, ae cfc quitters, don't hate the player hate the game
amazing to see one of the top clans at overall avoiding another clan huehue ...
ill just call it fear!! xxxDD!!
i would avoid cfc too ... but i want their points!!! xddd
Thats sad to see, but if thats what daina and lalo wants. Can't help much then ;)
Quote from: nino on May 07, 2011, 04:20 PM
Thats sad to see, but if thats what daina and lalo wants. Can't help much then ;)
Yes you can, teach Dub to shout his big mouth when we're clanning.
Quote from: lalo on May 07, 2011, 04:30 PM
Quote from: nino on May 07, 2011, 04:20 PM
Thats sad to see, but if thats what daina and lalo wants. Can't help much then ;)
Yes you can, teach Dub to shut his big mouth when we're clanning.
Because I said a lot of inappropriate things during that clanner right?
lalo, r u complaining about this game only, or dub have been acting that bad so often when clanning with u guys? please let me know and show me some games if u can, we can try to fix that, then just play and have fun which it the matter for me. and i guess it is for u too.
f@#! them, move on mates there are many clans to pwn. GG cfc.
i watched the reply twice.. dub was never rude, he even tried to explain why he thinks there should not be a penalty, it was dain and lalo who acted immature by leaving the game... first of all, your always sposed to finish the game, then make a complaint, 2nd of all.. it was not even illegal...
its like dub said, if you zooked a worm, and it resulted in a block, should you be penalized? hell no... its just a cooky thing that happens in the game.. its the element of surprise. thats what makes this game fun... you guys acted foolish to leave the game... i can not believe anyone is siding with cfc in this situation.. dub did not do anything wrong...
not to mention, cfc did not seem too upset until they f@#!ed up the turn, as it was mentioned that cr8 was simple... and to get out of that block was simple, all u head to do was stand on dub's head and shoot horizontal, then release your rope.. and your out... your the one that did some stupid thing trying to knock him down, resulting in losing your turn.. then you get angry and say its not fair... its always funny how that works.
i agree with nino, we can avoid cfc if they will avoid dub :D
we are spartans
sorry this may be late, but im not too active :D
damn, this topic seems interesting but already 4 pages!
too lazy to watch the replay, too lazy to read all the posts
is it the same for ya to always be interested by topic who started like 3 weeks ago with too much information to read all ?!!!!
not 3 weeks, i was not playing on that game and yeah im interested coz im on mm and i gotta check why we going to avoid this clan :) this topic isnt rly for u, u know.
muahaha im interested in everyhting even if it's not for me! :p
I didn't notice this game before, but I have to say I seriously doubt the situation is covered appropriately by the rules, which incidentally I can never even find on this site.
Personally, although I didn't think so a few years ago, I believe blocking rules in ropers need to be done away with, simply because there are too many situations like these where both sides aren't sure what to do. Any adequate definition of blocking, something that covers every situation, has to take at least a paragraph to explain, and that kind of convoluted rule isn't worth having when the alternative is just fine.
With blocking allowed, you could simply opt to play on maps with no blockable spots if you don't want to deal with blocking at all. And on maps with blockable spots, you'd just need to be extra careful where you hide; if you want to avoid getting a mine on your head by being up against a wall, you might pay the price and get blocked. The only situation that I used to be concerned about with blocking allowed was making a specially designed map where you could continually mine-block or ass-block (like a worm covering the exit of a very thin vertical passage) a worm to death, but it's not hard to spot maps with features like that, and even if you were playing on such a map, you should be able to avoid hiding in those susceptible spots.
I can easily agree with this, but can also imagine the mess changing this rule would cause. :) Still worth a try, imo.