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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: Lupastic on May 02, 2022, 09:03 AM
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These schemes mentioned below (blast zone is an exception :D) are being hosted very frequently at #AG on a daily basis, maybe it would be a good idea to let the next TRL be one of those? It also might attract new players from wormnet to join and play here
Intermediate (bo3)
kaos (bo3, bo5?)
mole shopper (bo1)
shopper (bo1)
big rr (bo1)
A unique scheme: blast zone (bo1 or bo3?)
One of these could be the next TRL scheme after the current Team17 ends?
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i vote for intermediate but its big long games scheme especially caves make a difference to island
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Wow blast zone bo3 would be nice! Something new, something different, yes, I like that option very much!
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Elite or just open tel
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Elite or just open tel
Elite is not hosted in AG by anyone, but would be a good idea as well yeah : ]
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Forts or Mole or Mole Forts. There was an evident need to make Forts 3x times closer to each other in MF. Maybe some people would like it if the dynamics was speeded up there.
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I pick shopper.
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I pick shopper.
xD no wonder :-*
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ELITE !!!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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i d be down for elite :o
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Elite would be nice as well, but no one hosts and plays it on wormnet as of now. it would get inactive very soon.
The list of schemes I tried to gather here are the most frequent ones being hosted on a daily basis in #AG. Elite is surely not one of them sadly
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ZaR Roper, or BIG zar RR.
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I would enjoy playing Plop Gum (https://worms2d.info/Plop_Gum), but the HostingBuddy version known as Rubber Plop War which has less abuse of Baseball Bat. However, I know no one would play that, because people only play Kaos.
I would play Blast Zone, just because it is part of the game, and I don't remember the last time I played this scheme.
Currently I'm more busy, so don't consider my opinions so much.
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I would enjoy playing Plop Gum (https://worms2d.info/Plop_Gum), but the HostingBuddy version known as Rubber Plop War which has less abuse of Baseball Bat. However, I know no one would play that, because people only play Kaos.
I would play Blast Zone, just because it is part of the game, and I don't remember the last time I played this scheme.
Currently I'm more busy, so don't consider my opinions so much.
haha I played this scheme a lot with UISxFighter (he created it, didn't he? early 2010's), pretty fun scheme, but not suitable for leagues imo
also, the schemes people host in #ag != the schemes league players would play in TRL, they have nothing to do
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haha I played this scheme a lot with UISxFighter (he created it, didn't he? early 2010's), pretty fun scheme, but not suitable for leagues imo
also, the schemes people host in #ag != the schemes league players would play in TRL, they have nothing to do
What are your points about it not being suitable for leagues? It is a scheme with no rules that would be easy to host a competitive event. It is fun as you said and 100% of the people who played this scheme with me liked it, some didn't want to rm, though.
There are situations that a player almost kill someone and then ends the turn near the water and the other player saves his worm from the death and kills easily the worm that failed to kill. But I think pro players would deal with this better. I really think this scheme has many tactics and possibilities that pro players would enjoy. I think this scheme is very well balanced and not so luck-based as some people may think. Collecting crates is easy if you dominate mole jumps (you can also self-hit pigeon to fly to the top again) and save your girders. Parachute is very useful if used well.
The only thing about this scheme that is not competitive is because nobody tried to make a cup or something with it, because I see a lot of potential in it. Maybe not for TRL, because TRL is focused on schemes that many people know and often plays. But I do think if someone hosted a cup of this scheme it would be a success, because it is damn fun and makes you laugh and think fast.
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also, the schemes people host in #ag != the schemes league players would play in TRL, they have nothing to do
I think we shouldn't rely on a TRL where we would expect only TUS players to compete in it considering how a lil bit inactive TUS is : ] While I was still playing TRL:team17, I invited half a dozen new players from wormnet to this site, just so they could play with me. Then it's another thing that 98% of them didn't remain here.
But if there would be a TRL Kaos (bo3) or TRL Shopper (bo1) pretty sure if we would start hosting it on AG people would like to play with us, it could be explained that we are playing for this league, they should register here etc, new players would come. Because as of now in 2022 it seems to be Kaos is probably the most frequently hosted scheme ever. (I'm sad for this :(:D)
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Added a poll. If I missed a scheme, please let me know. 2 votes per member.
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Shopper and Kaos
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Added a poll. If I missed a scheme, please let me know. 2 votes per member.
Aerial could get some votes, imo.
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Bungee Shopper
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You can play ZaR Roper here: http://www.wormsroper.com/
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haha I played this scheme a lot with UISxFighter (he created it, didn't he? early 2010's), pretty fun scheme, but not suitable for leagues imo
also, the schemes people host in #ag != the schemes league players would play in TRL, they have nothing to do
What are your points about it not being suitable for leagues?
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The only thing about this scheme that is not competitive is because nobody tried to make a cup or something with it
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But I do think if someone hosted a cup of this scheme it would be a success, because it is damn fun and makes you laugh and think fast.
That was exactly what I was thinking. There has never been a cup for it, and players have barely ever heard about it before. Even when it might not be as luck based as other schemes, it probably still needs some balancing; for all we know, because it's never been tested outside funners.
Maybe a cup first would be better than just throw it in a league and see how it does, we don't even know if people would like it.
also, the schemes people host in #ag != the schemes league players would play in TRL, they have nothing to do
I think we shouldn't rely on a TRL where we would expect only TUS players to compete in it considering how a lil bit inactive TUS is : ] While I was still playing TRL:team17, I invited half a dozen new players from wormnet to this site, just so they could play with me. Then it's another thing that 98% of them didn't remain here.
But if there would be a TRL Kaos (bo3) or TRL Shopper (bo1) pretty sure if we would start hosting it on AG people would like to play with us, it could be explained that we are playing for this league, they should register here etc, new players would come. Because as of now in 2022 it seems to be Kaos is probably the most frequently hosted scheme ever. (I'm sad for this :(:D)
The point is, you can't really please everyone. Who would you rather please, the people that actually put effort in playing league games? or your casual AG players that you might never see again in your life?
IMO, the good part about TRL T17 was that the skill ceiling isn't necessarily as high as it could be in TTRR or other schemes, so rusty players could hop in and get the hang of it in a couple of games. At the same time, newcomers or rusty players didn't really have problems facing experienced players in a scheme where luck factor is big enough so you can always "have a shot".
It's interesting to see how TRL players are distributed depending on the type of schemes. According to TUS,
- Season 27 (ZaR) had 25 players (10 of them had more than 10 games)
- Season 28 (80 Normal) had 13 players (only 1 of them had more than 10 games)
- Season 29 (T17) had 54 players (23 of them had more than 10 games)
- Season 30 (T17) so far had 26 players (12 of them had more than 10 games)
If you check the names of those players that played more than 10 league matches, you will barely find any new faces. People that keep an eye out for leagues are always the same... I understand perfectly where you are coming from, but it's really hard to make newcomers engage on leagues. Even more so, newcomers probably won't vote in the scheme choosing poll, so their likings aren't even being taken in consideration right now.
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The point is, you can't really please everyone. Who would you rather please, the people that actually put effort in playing league games? or your casual AG players that you might never see again in your life?
IMO, the good part about TRL T17 was that the skill ceiling isn't necessarily as high as it could be in TTRR or other schemes, so rusty players could hop in and get the hang of it in a couple of games. At the same time, newcomers or rusty players didn't really have problems facing experienced players in a scheme where luck factor is big enough so you can always "have a shot".
It's interesting to see how TRL players are distributed depending on the type of schemes. According to TUS,
- Season 27 (ZaR) had 25 players (10 of them had more than 10 games)
- Season 28 (80 Normal) had 13 players (only 1 of them had more than 10 games)
- Season 29 (T17) had 54 players (23 of them had more than 10 games)
- Season 30 (T17) so far had 26 players (12 of them had more than 10 games)
If you check the names of those players that played more than 10 league matches, you will barely find any new faces. People that keep an eye out for leagues are always the same... I understand perfectly where you are coming from, but it's really hard to make newcomers engage on leagues. Even more so, newcomers probably won't vote in the scheme choosing poll, so their likings aren't even being taken in consideration right now.
You are right in this, my idea with this thread was that we should try taking into consideration what schemes are the most frequent ones to be hosted in #AG everyday. When I check AG and the schemes that people prefer to play in the past 1 year or so, I see the ones I mentioned in my 1st comment AND if we choose a scheme that is ok for active TUS players as well, it could work out nicely. Team17 with islands was a very good choice for one season, making a 2nd season of it didn't make sense for me, so I didn't even participate anymore.
I'm pretty sure TRL:Shopper would work just as nice because it's a simple scheme that almost anyone could play with or even bo3 Intermediate would work fine. Choosing a scheme like zar roper (I'm mentioning this because zar roper is at a tie and almost winning in the poll atm) would not work out at all because roper is not hosted in AG anymore, every now and then kradie or Echiko host it occasionally or 1-2 brazilian players from that "w2" clan/community. And as I saw that zar roper was in an earlier TRL already, and even there it wasn't so active. I think if we started a TRL with it now, it would have like 5 very active players, another 5 occasional players, and 10-12 players who are not even into roper too much. While a Shopper could be played by anyone ::) OG TUS players should be okay with it and actually there are very good Shopper players in AG who are not registered here yet. :)
And as you said "anyone has a chance there to beat top/pro players", as it was with Team17 islands, it could be favorable like this.
Blast Zone or this Plop Gum scheme would be nice but I think it would turn out to be the same inactive very soon.
Kaos is even more active than Shopper. It is truly the most active scheme now by casual players on wormnet. But yeah, not sure how it would work out in TRL. Here we don't play too much Kaos in Free League that's for sure.. :D
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Maybe walk for weapons with Jetpack and 7 seconds of Turn time? Or simply Wormopoly? I think it's about time we implemented it.
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Team17? I know there's been a boom recently in that scheme, but having it again.. Doesn't that collide with the whole name of the league? It's Rotation, not Repetition.
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https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-98/
Warg's Mole Shopper is basically Team17 but in Mole setting. Granades take -45, blowtorch -15. All super weapons are there as well. Maybe this would be worth a try, being spiritual successor to current TRL?
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Intermediate ;d
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Noo my blast zone! 😄
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Would be fun with a league with only these schemes.
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team17: George Bush
intermediate: Barack Obama
shopper: Joe Biden
zar roper: Donald Trump
vote for change 8)
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team17: George Bush
intermediate: Barack Obama
shopper: Joe Biden
zar roper: Donald Trump
vote for change 8)
What kind of change?
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Bush and Obama sound like leftovers heated once again for a quick meal...
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how about an Intermediate on 2 Islands? It will be fresh! There isn't a single scheme that uses 2 islands.
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Add Bungee Shopper, then I'll vote.
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team17: George Bush
intermediate: Barack Obama
shopper: Joe Biden
zar roper: Donald Trump
vote for change 8)
No no. Shopper is not senil piden :o
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There isn't a single scheme that uses 2 islands.
1) Space Cows (https://worms2d.info/Space_Cows)
2) Forts (https://worms2d.info/Fort)
These were just the first schemes that popped up on my mind, probably there are others, not many, though.
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There isn't a single scheme that uses 2 islands.
1) Space Cows (https://worms2d.info/Space_Cows)
2) Forts (https://worms2d.info/Fort)
These were just the first schemes that popped up on my mind, probably there are others, not many, though.
I wouldn't call Forts maps "islands". I meant islands which are terrain-generated, and not necessarily symetrical, half of Forts maps are hanging in the air to begin with.
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1) Space Cows (https://worms2d.info/Space_Cows)
2) Forts (https://worms2d.info/Fort)
These were just the first schemes that popped up on my mind, probably there are others, not many, though.
I wouldn't call Forts maps "islands". I meant islands which are terrain-generated, and not necessarily symetrical, half of Forts maps are hanging in the air to begin with.
^ +1
Although I like to see Foxhound being a top notch smartass about scheme in WA, sometimes it's a bit.. too much :D
Btw if shopper wins on the poll, can we start a discussion about what schemes we would use for it? Or the only option is the TUS shopper scheme from 2011? :/ https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-488/
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There isn't a single scheme that uses 2 islands.
1) Space Cows (https://worms2d.info/Space_Cows)
2) Forts (https://worms2d.info/Fort)
These were just the first schemes that popped up on my mind, probably there are others, not many, though.
I wouldn't call Forts maps "islands". I meant islands which are terrain-generated, and not necessarily symetrical, half of Forts maps are hanging in the air to begin with.
Ok, those maps are like floating islands, then. You didn't mention about symmetry on your comment. What about Roper maps, or even your scheme: Mole Forts?
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^ +1
Although I like to see Foxhound being a top notch smartass about scheme in WA, sometimes it's a bit.. too much :D
Well, I try to bring schemes discussion to show the diversity this game has, to be someone different than the stereotype of TUS members in the past, that treated all people who wanted to play casual games like noobs, if you were trying to play something different you would be considered a noob. They wouldn't help beginners in AG, they wouldn't show them how to play or give them attention. They would just spam "TUS ne1?" and think on their points and stats.
I never used to comment here so much before, first because my English was more limited than today, second because I didn't see many cool people here, to be honest. I always enjoyed playing with noobs or 1vs1 in AG with NNN clan.
If I'm being annoying, I can say sorry, something that many people here seem to be unable to do. My intention is not to make people feel bad or to make me feel "superior" because of that, just a matter of justice with other people who made schemes, because many people in the past could easily copy someone's idea and say that it's his/her idea, because there were not so many Schemes historians on the field. If I'm exaggerating to say someone is wrong, then again, sorry.
By the way, at least I never offended someone here, I never caused many troubles here. I never had some crazy rage/fury attack on a comment here to attack developers of this game or people that are doing a lot for this game. I did have some issues with CyberShadow years ago and this is past now. Some people here act like teenagers and seem to don't respect the others, specially who is actively doing something for this community and for this game.
Btw if shopper wins on the poll, can we start a discussion about what schemes we would use for it? Or the only option is the TUS shopper scheme from 2011? :/ https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-488/
I agree with this.
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I never had some crazy rage/fury attack
a crazy FURRY attack :D
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Look at my attachment, FoxHound. Wouldn't such maps be a nice alternative for Intermediate? a bit of a fresh breeze at last?
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As for the scheme for the TRL - I voiced my opinion a long time ago, when the experimental 80normal scheme was allowed in the TRL - it's a great practice to make leagues with new and experimental schemes that are undeservedly forgotten before they appear ...
Yes, perhaps putting experimental schemes in TRL will not achieve much activity than with old, popular schemes, but why not create a separate league for experimental schemes? This could give rise to many interesting schemes and perhaps some of them would become popular with the subsequent transition to the major leagues (Allround or Free).
As for the double islands, I often play Hysteria, Aerial, BnG and Elite on them (in the elite it is even indicated in the TUS rules)
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if suggestions are still accepted, i'd like to nominate BuildConv https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-2137/
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Look at my attachment, FoxHound. Wouldn't such maps be a nice alternative for Intermediate? a bit of a fresh breeze at last?
actually, is there a scheme that uses lake cavern maps? :D (that misses the bottom) that's something I never saw or heard about.. or even cave tunnel maps (cave map that is missing the left and right sides, but has a ceiling and floor)
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Look at my attachment, FoxHound. Wouldn't such maps be a nice alternative for Intermediate? a bit of a fresh breeze at last?
actually, is there a scheme that uses lake cavern maps? :D (that misses the bottom) that's something I never saw or heard about.. or even cave tunnel maps (cave map that is missing the left and right sides, but has a ceiling and floor)
Yeah, actually that would be a pretty dope idea to place Intermediate in this setting. Worms in swinging around the ceiling in lake caverns would be also an Intermediate mixed with Shopper to some extend.
That would really be a fresh breeze put into the scheme
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Yeah, actually that would be a pretty dope idea to place Intermediate in this setting. Worms in swinging around the ceiling in lake caverns would be also an Intermediate mixed with Shopper to some extend.
That would really be a fresh breeze put into the scheme
well this is not what I had in mind, don't think there would be any intermediate players who would play inter on those maps xD I was just wondering if these map styles are actually used for any scheme at all?
complex cave style maps would be good for hardcore shopper maps though
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Look at my attachment, FoxHound. Wouldn't such maps be a nice alternative for Intermediate? a bit of a fresh breeze at last?
It would be better to change the gameplay of Intermediate a bit, but I don't think this would make a huge difference in the gameplay. I think this will make players spend more utilities and use more artillery, but also the start positions would be even more luck based factor and the game would be more ploppy. It might reduce the use of Shotgun, though.
As for the scheme for the TRL - I voiced my opinion a long time ago, when the experimental 80normal scheme was allowed in the TRL - it's a great practice to make leagues with new and experimental schemes that are undeservedly forgotten before they appear ...
Yes, perhaps putting experimental schemes in TRL will not achieve much activity than with old, popular schemes, but why not create a separate league for experimental schemes? This could give rise to many interesting schemes and perhaps some of them would become popular with the subsequent transition to the major leagues (Allround or Free).
I agree 100% with this. TRL for me doesn't make much sense if people will play the same schemes that are always receiving cups and proper leagues, such as CWT, ONL and all these Shopper cups, not to say the TUS Classic League. If you open to people vote, they will always vote on the schemes they are good or that they know. They will never vote on a scheme they never played before. So I agree that it would be nice to have a league dedicated to new schemes or at least experimental schemes, potencial competitive schemes.
(in the elite it is even indicated in the TUS rules)
I didn't know that, interesting. Another scheme example now.
actually, is there a scheme that uses lake cavern maps? :D (that misses the bottom) that's something I never saw or heard about.. or even cave tunnel maps (cave map that is missing the left and right sides, but has a ceiling and floor)
I think I never seen any scheme requiring these maps, they are way too ploppy and easy to end the game. I remember playing with someone in AG that was constantly hosting an intrinsic scheme on "cave tunnel maps", but to be honest: I didn't enjoy much. I also remember using "lake cavern maps" to test Snooker (https://worms2d.info/Snooker), and they were very nice, but I decided that empty maps were better later, mainly due to the graves issue. Now with faster game engine, this graves issue is not so annoying. I might experiment new Snooker variants there. I have some test projects variants of the scheme already, but not ready for release.
It will be challenging to make funny schemes for these specific maps, because even schemes like Loser Shopper (https://worms2d.info/Shopper#Loser_Shopper) or Abnormal (https://worms2d.info/Abnormal) just don't feel good to be played there. Games end way too fast and not many skill involved on this, probably.
Edit: Maybe the only scheme that can use them well, being funny is 1rule (https://worms2d.info/1rule), but the maps have border, so they are not ploppy at all.
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because even schemes like Loser Shopper (https://worms2d.info/Shopper#Loser_Shopper)
I hope I'm not wrong in this - now that you mention - loser shopper (abnormal shopper) is also coming from me :-[ Do you know anyone or you have any replays/games before 2020? If not, then I was surely the first to host shoppers with abnormal rules, same as it was with Moon Shopper. But surely its possible that someone was already hosting this back in 2012. :D At one point in 2020 I hosted tonnes of Abnormal Shoppers and I have a good feeling thats the time it was born.
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I hope I'm not wrong in this - now that you mention - loser shopper (abnormal shopper) is also coming from me :-[ Do you know anyone or you have any replays/games before 2020? If not, then I was surely the first to host shoppers with abnormal rules, same as it was with Moon Shopper. But surely its possible that someone was already hosting this back in 2012. :D At one point in 2020 I hosted tonnes of Abnormal Shoppers and I have a good feeling thats the time it was born.
Bloopy added Loser Shopper to the Shopper page in 2007. The scheme is probably older than this date. It surely existed way before Abnormal.
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if suggestions are still accepted, i'd like to nominate BuildConv https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-2137/
I would like to add a few more if possible.
Rope Reversed
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-1788/
TeleShopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-2048/
Lucky Strike
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-2779/
Total Time Trial Race
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3435/
Active Strike
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3484/
Target Trick Race
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3598/
Double ZaR Roper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3717/
Girder Shopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4002/
Sonic Jetter
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4093/
Spider-ZaR
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4116/
Asteroid Dodge Race
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4122/
Chaos Collect
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4125/
Super Collect
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4130/
Grid Wars
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4134/
Speed Mole
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4207/
Board Shopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4232/
Zone Shopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4263/
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if suggestions are still accepted, i'd like to nominate BuildConv https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-2137/
I would like to add a few more if possible.
Rope Reversed
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-1788/
TeleShopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-2048/
Lucky Strike
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-2779/
Total Time Trial Race
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3435/
Active Strike
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3484/
Target Trick Race
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3598/
Double ZaR Roper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-3717/
Girder Shopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4002/
Sonic Jetter
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4093/
Spider-ZaR
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4116/
Asteroid Dodge Race
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4122/
Chaos Collect
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4125/
Super Collect
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4130/
Grid Wars
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4134/
Speed Mole
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4207/
Board Shopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4232/
Zone Shopper
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4263/
Speed Mole is such a highly enjoyable, underappreciated gem
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Actually half of these schemes are top-class ideas, like Super Collect or Grid Wars. In Speed Mole Kradie did with Mole what Golf did with granades. Sadly, it will take a few years for the community to appreciate the great ideas here.
If Speed Mole doesn't end up being TRL, at least please replace Elemental with it in TFL = (
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Host a cup with speed mole first maybe?
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A scheme like teleport shopper, fly shopper, burning girders, or supersheeper should surely be among the TFL schemes instead of an Elemental or Supersheep Race.. never too late c:
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Actually half of these schemes are top-class ideas, like Super Collect or Grid Wars.
Well, I have replays older than Kradie's collect schemes, older than Kangaroo's Crate Race (which is about collecting crates to win as well). Fighter and DumbBongChow were developing schemes that were very creative back in 2011-2012. Fighter created a scheme like "Collect Super Sheep Race", but he didn't publish it. He also created one that you had to collect crates using Sheep Launcher. DumbBongChow created a scheme that you had to collect crates, but using a Boom Race scheme on cave maps. So when I saw these schemes Kradie made they didn't catch my attention.
In Speed Mole Kradie did with Mole what Golf did with granades.
Have you ever seen D1's Mole Vaulting (https://worms2d.info/Mole_Vaulting)? For me this scheme is much more similar to Golf than Speed Mole. By The Way, I still think Plop Gum is way more funny than this Speed Mole scheme. Plop Gum at least you have a technique to master: the mole jumps.
Sadly, it will take a few years for the community to appreciate the great ideas here.
Yeah, I agree. People only play the same schemes for ever: Shopper, Shopper, Shopper, Shopper, Shopper and Shopper.
If Speed Mole doesn't end up being TRL...
I would prefer playing Speed Mole than Intermediate (again) and Shopper (again), for sure.
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It seems that I know very little about all those experimental schemes that were invented in the last 15 years. Thank you for giving me this much insight, FoxHound. I tried out that Speed Mole and because it's based on placing mole in very precise spots for plop shots, it makes it feel like some sort of spiderweb that you send across the whole map. I would add LG there too for bigger mole acrobatics
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Looks like it is gonna be Shopper.... Surprise surprise.
I would Instead have a new league called ''NSL'' New Scheme League, and it would work similar to TRL. TRL isn't exactly a good league to promote new scheme if they are going up against established schemes.
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There are 2 votes for Intermediate from unknown members. Ignoring those will make the poll a tie between Shopper/Intermediate. Judging by the activity of the members, people who voted for Intermediate are slightly more active than Shopper. So I'm going with Intermediate.
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There are 2 votes for Intermediate from unknown members. Ignoring those will make the poll a tie between Shopper/Intermediate. Judging by the activity of the members, people who voted for Intermediate are slightly more active than Shopper. So I'm going with Intermediate.
What scheme are we using, only the NNN scheme is allowed? What game format, bo3? Cheesing with bo1 matches are allowed as well? ;/
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- NNN scheme
- Island or Cavern doesn't matter.
- BO3 mandatory.
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sorry but having a trl of inter is stupid. This is just duplication of leagues. If you want inter go play ONL?
why on earth did anyone even vote for this? I didn't vote as i've been inactive but those who voted inter when there is already an established inter league running in the community need some common sense check! like wtf?
this website needs a permanent t17 ladder. There is clearly the demand for it... See you all in a few months once the duplicate league is over..
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maybe shopper would really have been a better idea but inter should work as well x$ for me, I'll play on island maps only in this cuz MI didn't say it should be IICC format or anything he just said islands or caves doesn't matter ::)
choosing inter was surely a better option than zar roper or team17.. team17 should have its own "ladder" or whatever it is, it should be a unique separate league, like TEL. everyone likes t17 here and it showed so much activity, but why start a new season for the 3rd time for TRL once again? ._. it's called tus ROTATED league for a reason, nope?
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I agree, T17 is a cool scheme and there really is a demand for it, but if it is constantly in the TRL, then there will be no chance for other schemes. I think it would not be bad to exclude schemes that have already been played out for the last couple of seasons from voting.
At the expense of inter in the TRL - a controversial situation, because there is an ONL and a new season has also recently started there, which coincides with the beginning of the intermediate scheme in the TRL. Some players can duplicate and report to both leagues by agreement, this has happened many times before. Today I was already offered to play the ONL, and in response I offered the TRL, in the end they agreed that if he wins, a report to the ONL, and if I win, a report to the TRL. It's a little strange, I don't even know what will come of it. Time will tell.
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As I explained on Discord.
It is not stupid to have the NNN scheme in TRL.
Team17 has had 2 seasons in a row, so we don't need that again.
I voted for Intermediate & ZaR because Team17 already had 2 successful seasons, and i'm not a fan of shopper.
Intermediate is a great scheme to stream and this is a great time to advertise the scheme in order for players to prepare for CWT.
Yes, we have ONL, though most are not familiar with it, this gives a great opportunity to find new talent and introduce them to one of the greatest schemes that has ever existed.
Not to mention, out of the 4 options presented, I feel Intermediate(NNN/ONL Scheme) was the better option.