Quote from: Free on July 07, 2012, 09:43 AM
Quote from: Komito on July 07, 2012, 09:37 AM
Quote from: Flori on July 07, 2012, 01:41 AM
kaleu the main problem of hysteria is that every game can last 1 hour if both player are never bored and play their "life".
That isn't everyones problem, that's YOUR problem, i've seen other schemes take ridiculously long times to finish, if 2 guys, want to play Hysterias for 1 hour, because they enjoy it so much, who the hell are you, or anyone, to stop them? Let them play it the way they want, and you play it the way you want.
And then we complain how Intermediate shouldn't be added cos it takes too long.
Not everyone ENJOYS hour long hysterias but your opponent can FORCE you to play hour long hysteria unless you want to force SD which gives your opponent 10 free attacks and usually the best part of the map to control.
I agree with all of this.
I haven't read all the thread. But if people want to take an hour playing darksiding hysteria, let them enjoy that. If you'r stuck in a game where someone is darksiding, force sudden death.
If people are having hour long hysteria's, where is the harm in allowing inter bo1, or agreeing to bo2,bo3 (if people are happy playing for that amount of time then where is the harm in that?) Maybe make bo1 standard.. although there is luck in placements, but then luck makes worms fun, what makes a great player is still being able to win when luck has gone against him... Instead of crying about it cr8 rape, bad weapons in t17 or poor winds in bng, just get on, face the music and enjoy worms for what it is.
Shopper is great, comparing it to wxw is like comparing t17 and elite as random00 and others have said.
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If its not broke, don't fix it" - We are giving players the chance of playing schemes they enjoy in a league environment, it doesn't matter if some are tactically crap, or time consuming or less popular, the great thing is having the choice to be able to take part in competitive games across the schemes you enjoy. We're playing TuS to have fun, and because we enjoy competition.
Nothing needs to be removed from classic league. Maybe consider adding inter. If you wanna play big RR, ask your opponent and if both players agree, why not?
I think what needs to be fixed is TUS t17 scheme, it needs to be more BOOM BOOM in my opinion with a larger amount of sudden death weapons. HHC's and FB's t17 schemes are far better. The majoirty of people argue about the 7 vs unlimited griders, but you can still play FB and HHC's scheme with 7 grides, I think the crates in tus t17 are the biggest problem. But thats only 1 out of 7 schemes that work well.
People talk about shopper being pointless, try beating Savage in a shopper and you'll see there are experts in that scheme. Again, the tus scheme in this could be editted if players want to. Try playing with my scheme with added miniguns and axe's to not create such a bais towards flame thrower.
Then there is the bng debate, people notch, some don't. Learn to darkside, and be comfortable knowing what the darkside rules are. Watch this clanner where barman and free are doing 4sec nades notched nades well. Through legal darksiding with nice bank shots CKC had a come back spell and i enjoyed this match regardless of what people say about notching.
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-116438/At the end of the day feel happy theres a classic league that allows the majority of fun, tactical, and competitive games to be played that keep both ropers and defaulters happy.
