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Started by Camper, July 26, 2024, 02:42 AM

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h3oCharles

oh yea, my cup lol

the idea of banning a scheme came from the pick/ban system from osu! tournaments and pro counter-strike matches, where banning 1-2 maps means nobody can pick it in a match, meaning some research needs to be done on the opponent (or yourself) to be confident on what to ban

TheKomodo

Or, play every single scheme and see who wins the most since it's supposed to be ALLROUND right?

h3oCharles

not sure if "Allround" is a good name for this league xd

TheKomodo

Quote from: h3oCharles on July 28, 2024, 11:32 AMnot sure if "Allround" is a good name for this league xd

I was literally thinking the same thing... It would only be actual allround if it included all the TFL schemes as well as every other league.

I'd call the combination of every league "Allround", and what we call allround now should be called Classic again or even better "Authentic" because it consists of the most classic/authentic schemes, authentic meaning tried and tested and you can rely on it's authenticity.

These players that can win "allround" are actually not that difficult to beat in most other schemes, of course only because they haven't practised them yet lol.

Great TFL players would whoop top players in the main league in TFL. Barman was probably one of the best at both TAL and TFL.

Wolfgang

btw, why tus league classic changes to allround?




blitzed

I dont even like inter being added as scheme with this bo3 shit.. people lag out etc takes ages

Sensei

Quote from: Kaleu on July 27, 2024, 10:53 PMI really hope you are trolling or using exagerated hyperbole there..
But If you are serious I bet you had a boner indirectly calling others poor saying that you make enough money to equate such a purchase with buying 2 beers, rofl.

It's not about being poor or rich. It's about sacrificing a portion of a 1 day salary to buy a decent monitor for a game you poured thousands of hours into. I just find it silly that healthy grown up "can't" afford something like this. Second hand full hd monitor.. Yeah, I'm not exaggerating. There's probably people getting rid of them for free on some facebook market place in your area.

Anyway, aside the whole buying/not buying better monitor thing - it's like I make a post about banning Inter scheme because some people will surely have advantage playing it on 1024x768, while I'm using 1920x1080. Wouldn't you find that laughable?


Quote from: Mablak on July 27, 2024, 10:35 PMI have tried playing at 1080p and get constant screenlag, my computer is also pretty decent, i7 processor and a GEForce graphics card. Probably not many people have this problem, but yeah it's there.

Hmm, check your advanced settings. First thing I did when installing a game was to disable both vsyncs.
That was to get rid of an input lag while roping, jetting etc. Played with screen tearings for a long time, because of a 60hz refresh rate on my monitor (and the fact it was 20" monitor with a resolution of 1366x768, which I changed in nvidia control panel to get forced 1920x1080 in W:A)
It was afwul in so many ways, but didn't complain too much since I wanted to get used to Full HD resolution.

Few years back bought a 24", full hd, 144 hz monitor and it was a game changer. Couldn't believe 60 vs 144 is that much of a difference. We talked about this recently, you should get yourself one.

They're going quite cheap nowadays, compared to before. Probably can get one for 100$ and with a better IPS panel (mine is TN). Will never go back to 60hz again. Can't stand even moving mouse cursor on it, let alone play anything fast-paced.

Kaleu

#37
Nah man at this point I just assumed you're being arrogant or trolling/baiting, there's no way that a "healthy grown up adult" can be that ignorant about currency.

The currency is not the same, the minimum wage in Brazil is low and I make below the minimum like millions of other brazilians. I just made a quick search and the cheapest decent full hd monitor costs around 65-70% of the mininum wage salary.
Here in Brazil we have the culture of spliting the purchase in credit card as much as we can.. endless debts to survive.

I know that you have no obligation to know my financial situation or that of my country, but before you continue to insist on measuring the reality of the world with your own metric, I warned you that we didn't share the same reality.
Anyway, I'm done with this subject.


QuoteAnyway, aside the whole buying/not buying better monitor thing - it's like I make a post about banning Inter scheme because some people will surely have advantage playing it on 1024x768, while I'm using 1920x1080. Wouldn't you find that laughable?

Yes I would.
But this argument doesn't make any sense because you can switch back to any lower resolution at any time, unlike someone with a smaller monitor who can't use a higher resolution. It's not as if you're being hardware forced to use your monitor's native resolution, you are just choosing to do it...

My point is, this scheme is the only one in the entire classic league that benefits someone solely because they have a better hardware, but not only that, it happens because by default the maps used go beyond the native map size initially established by the game (1920x696), we are going against the main patterns of the game and rules that is fundamental to other all round schemes, big rr/tower is just unnatural to be placed there, all other schemes you can demand default map size by rule.

Btw I think this is the longest post I have ever written here :D
Experience the best TTRR gameplays with my maps!

→ The best of Kaleu ←

↓ Average anti-modules player ↓

FoxHound

I agree with Kaleu regarding Sensei's comment about buying a new monitor.

There are players in this community that are Gig Workers on countries that the economy is not going so well. Think in Argentina now just to say an example. There are players that indeed cannot afford so much, although I believe that just to have a computer, internet, and free time to play WA most people here are medium class or at least have a decent monetary condition to live.

Even if a monitor is cheap and most people can buy one here in this community, people shouldn't have to buy a new monitor just because of a scheme.

Hopefully 3.9 will end this problem with zooming in WA, what is very likely to happen after CyberShadow's interview.

Sensei

#39
Well, sorry guys. Didn't mean to sound rude and surely didn't mean to troll anyone about their will to work/ability to earn money. Mea culpa! Really was unaware of situation in Brazil being that bad. Will not comment on this anymore.

TheKomodo

Quote from: Kaleu on July 29, 2024, 05:15 AMMy point is, this scheme is the only one in the entire classic league that benefits someone solely because they have a better hardware

That is not true.

Better keyboards = better roping, better notching which is required for almost all schemes. To notch the worm into positions for speedrunners, and dyna/mine hats etc.

In fact the only reason I can afford stuff is because I don't have children yet.

There are so many other schemes and reasons NOT to rule out just because some people cannot afford it. Even people buying good chairs to sit at their computer.

Sure, I wish you guys would make more money, but I'm sure if you saved up for an entire year you could afford a good monitor.

To put it simply, it's not ideal to ban a scheme entirely on the basis some countries are poorer than others. This is competition remember, not funners. If you take part in serious competition you yourself have to accept you might need better hardware.

Big RR is the most popular roping scheme right now, to not include it is pretty selfish not to mention just plain weird. I can only hope you get a promotion or something to make more money.

If you ban Big RR then you gotta ban other schemes too because I have the option of using different hardware for different schemes. To remove Big RR completely would be a tragic loss for many.

To say for one screen though is ridiculous, there's Grenade Wars as well, as there are many.

h3oCharles

Quote from: Sensei on July 28, 2024, 09:53 PMIt's not about being poor or rich. It's about sacrificing a portion of a 1 day salary to buy a decent monitor for a game you poured thousands of hours into. I just find it silly that healthy grown up "can't" afford something like this. Second hand full hd monitor.. Yeah, I'm not exaggerating. There's probably people getting rid of them for free on some facebook market place in your area.

bro have you seen the ludicrous inflation levels in brazil?!