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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: Hussar on December 10, 2015, 11:23 AM
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Hey MonkeyIsland.
We want a league for comunnity of kaos lowers.
You saw how much effort had to be add from DreamTrance to host 4 seazons so far.
Over 30 players played it, but it cant goes forever by one man.
It shouldnt be problem to add it.
1 scheme, games played bo3, 3/4 months for first seazon with Finals.
Do us a favor !
Post below if u wanna sign this petition and help us !!!.
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~Hussar
~Chelsea
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~Mega`Adnan
~Dr. Abegod
~Alien
~Hurz
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~Chelsea
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Life is Kaos so I'am in 8)
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my suggestion: seasonal cups & tourney ranking. Every 4 or 6 months a reset :)
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I could add it, but the points system will be current TUS's system obviously.
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~Lagnan
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I could add it, but the points system will be current TUS's system obviously.
Thats fine, points stand just like in Kaos free league, just do seperate table for seazon 1 !
Do it Boss !!
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Dr. Abegod
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Let's see how many want it to start first.
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I am against this until the return of TRL, as kaos league could just as easily be darts/hysteria/kaos/insert xxx. I'm not against the idea of kaos personally, just that kaos is barely active in free league, so why would it necessitate its own league at the moment?
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I am against this until the return of TRL, as kaos league could just as easily be darts/hysteria/kaos/insert xxx. I'm not against the idea of kaos personally, just that kaos is barely active in free league, so why would it necessitate its own league at the moment?
Kaos free its not that kaos which we played all those long period of time,
you propablly even dont know how big was this event.
4 seazons. Many many hours of comepentive playing.
Each game had to be hosted by one of MOD which counted all points (u could gain points for multi kills, for collecting 100 crates, for fast finish under 10/15 minutes and many many more.
The winner of each seazons won over 100 euros or so........
Check out "kf" communityy.
You wouldnt feel any diference if MI turn it On but all ppl which was part of this WILL.
We will do it anyway even without TUS help but will be easier for us with TUS help.
Would be nice without trowing bricks under our legs.
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I am against this until the return of TRL, as kaos league could just as easily be darts/hysteria/kaos/insert xxx. I'm not against the idea of kaos personally, just that kaos is barely active in free league, so why would it necessitate its own league at the moment?
Kaos free its not that kaos which we played all those long period of time,
you propablly even dont know how big was this event.
4 seazons. Many many hours of comepentive playing.
Each game had to be hosted by one of MOD which counted all points (u could gain points for multi kills, for collecting 100 crates, for fast finish under 10/15 minutes and many many more.
The winner of each seazons won over 100 euros or so........
Check out "kf" communityy.
You wouldnt feel any diference if MI turn it On but all ppl which was part of this WILL.
We will do it anyway even without TUS help but will be easier for us with TUS help.
Would be nice without trowing bricks under our legs.
I doubt my word carries the weight of bricks, I'm more like the village idiot.
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Wally did u played kaos ? You have too :P
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Why not activate TRL Kaos?
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Why not activate TRL Kaos?
GOOD IDEA!
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i would join, but not a league. i don't want to sit the whole day in #ag, asking or waiting for someone to play with me kaos league.
i prefer cup games, with deadlines and date/time agreement.
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Alien you dont need to sit whole day etc...
Just play your 20 games in 3/4 months and go into playoffs.
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ok my bad, somehow i thought like in old kaos free league times. lol
i just see this topic made by dreamtrance, not long ago, maybe he is still interested.
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/kf/an-attempt-to-bring-kaos-official-back-to-life-28040/
if dreamtrance is still willing to bring it back, it would be nice to see some support of tus too.
i don't know how it could look like, but as you already said, it for sure was not easy for dt to make that possible.
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Why not activate TRL Kaos?
best idea
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You should reset Classic Overall both singles/clanners before thinking about adding new Leagues, i've lost count of how many people share this view, hardly anybody can be bothered with TuS classic anymore it's just too boring, there is no fight anymore...
Also, Berria, I know the feeling, i've been asking MI to make dS Tours an official part of TuS for at least a year now, he said he would do it someday, but not yet :D
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~Hurz
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You should reset Classic Overall both singles/clanners before thinking about adding new Leagues, i've lost count of how many people share this view, hardly anybody can be bothered with TuS classic anymore it's just too boring, there is no fight anymore...
How does this solve that?
There's a reset every new season.
If you reset overall theres maybe 1 week more activity and then ppl realize its just the same and stop playing again.
Btw, I've started doing tus classic again :)
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del
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get your classic topic out of kaos :)
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Yeah, go start Classic 2.0 with battle race and no overall at all! It's only seasonal playoffs which matter, imo
battle race needs to be in classic league! there is rope racing, why not jump racing?
but yeh kory we should stop derailing the kaos thread before the kaos people go nuclear and drop a double damage french sheep strike on this bitch.
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aaand there you go wrong.
the "pro" version of kaos does not include those skill killers.
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TRL kaos started! Let's see what you've got!
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nice, please make sure trl kaos will be played with dreamtrance his kaos pro scheme.
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/download/file-1589/
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it is the official kaos Kf scheme on the main page if you don't know what i mean.
most of the kaos player prefer this scheme.
https://www.tus-wa.com/groups/Kf/
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indeed. trl should be played with dreamtrance's scheme only, as bo5 imo, open open close close open.
the tfl scheme sucks.
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Could we split this into it's own topic please?
You should reset Classic Overall both singles/clanners before thinking about adding new Leagues, i've lost count of how many people share this view, hardly anybody can be bothered with TuS classic anymore it's just too boring, there is no fight anymore...
How does this solve that?
There's a reset every new season.
If you reset overall theres maybe 1 week more activity and then ppl realize its just the same and stop playing again.
1 week? Wtf??
Let's not forget the reason Seasonal was invented in the 1st place is because of people complaining about not being able to catch up to the top players and/or make enough points to qualify because they don't play anymore, this is like sweeping your dust under the rug, it's still there.
If you ask me it's only made things worse, Classic League games (both singles and clanners) are at an all time low, and although it's not the most active it's ever been, WNET is much more active now than it was some years ago when TuS Leagues were more popular.
There are several reasons why resetting overall would increase activity, as well as skill.
The major issue being people can't compete with many of the top players because they are inactive and don't play anymore, it has nothing to do with making playoffs or not, it's the fact that it's literally impossible to reach the top spots in Overall and individual scheme Overall, you are taking away hope of "being the best", if there is no hope, there is no point, many players do play just for fun, but those who do have that spark to take things serious how the hell can you expect them to have any serious goals when they are impossible to achieve??? It's easier to make it to PO and possibly win than it is to become #1 overall player with the best statistics.
With a fresh start there will be a huge initial boom in activity and games played, the more people asking/playing the more interesting it seems, some people will get hooked.
Because people have a chance to take the top spots with a reset, they are more than likely to practise more of the schemes in order to achieve this, this will help clanner activity as well because players who were only good at 1 or 2 schemes will eventually be good with at least half of the available classic schemes, they will join clans or make clans and also I imagine it would stop some people asking for "default clanner" or "rope clanner" as well because they have the player base to handle more schemes.
Not to mention it would simply be exciting as a fan of League matches to see how it would play out, would Random00 and barman return and try again? Would Mablak get involved? Would daina or Lukz take #1? Or would someone with potential rapidly increase their skill and shock everyone?? That sh*t is fun!
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lmao komo is raping this thread for his classic league needs, np keep going.. kaos people like to share with others. all are welcome.
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Not to mention it would simply be exciting as a fan of League matches to see how it would play out, would Random00 and barman return and try again? Would Mablak get involved? Would daina or Lukz take #1? Or would someone with potential rapidly increase their skill and shock everyone?? That sh*t is fun!
Yeah... don't see it happening.
The only thing this does is erase the current top overall players. And tbh I don't see the point in this. Random and Mablak and god knows who deserve to be on top there. If you can't reach them... you're not as good as them. Which IMO applies for 100% of current wormnet.
If you erase the list, it will fill up with pretty good, but nothing special wormers. Kinda takes away from that legend list doesn't it?
And what's more if you do you kill the current way the scores are kept. If you happen to play Random when he gets back you'd get 20 points or so for beating him lol.
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The only thing this does is erase the current top overall players. And tbh I don't see the point in this. Random and Mablak and god knows who deserve to be on top there. If you can't reach them... you're not as good as them. Which IMO applies for 100% of current wormnet.
Well it wouldn't be erased it would be saved.
"If you can't reach them... you're not as good as them."
How do you think Random00 was able to get so high in the 1st place? When he was climbing he was still able to play other players in the top 10 to make those points, now it's impossible because half of the top 10 very rarely play if not at all. Just like when avirex was trying to climb the Roper standings, it's impossible when more than half of the top 10 don't even play and the rest are rarely available, even though avirex was one of the strongest active Ropers at that point in time.
I reckon if Random00 was to compete now with a fresh League he would struggle to be #1 as there are more players who are better than him in several schemes now, in no way am I saying Random00 isn't an extremely good player and no doubt he'd be top 5 if he tried, but he had a nack for playing at the right time and avoiding players who would beat him in their best scheme as much as he possibly could, which is why he has less games played and a high win %, I personally think people overestimate him a little bit.
If you erase the list, it will fill up with pretty good, but nothing special wormers. Kinda takes away from that legend list doesn't it?
I disagree, I reckon a few players have the potential to be better than Random00 was all round, imo Random00 is a legend at Elite, but nothing else.
How can anyone have the chance to be "the next Random00" if the opportunity never arises again?
And what's more if you do you kill the current way the scores are kept. If you happen to play Random when he gets back you'd get 20 points or so for beating him lol.
The point is that the top players would be available to play against.
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he had a nack for playing at the right time and avoiding players who would beat him in their best scheme as much as he possibly could, which is why he has less games played and a high win %
You contradict yourself here. If Random got there by avoiding other top players, then why need current top players need other top players to reach that rank? :-X
It all sounds like impulsiveness to me. This Kaos league as well. I think we had this scheme for TRL already one month and it had like 20 players max :-[
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Not to mention it would simply be exciting as a fan of League matches to see how it would play out, would Random00 and barman return and try again? Would Mablak get involved? Would daina or Lukz take #1? Or would someone with potential rapidly increase their skill and shock everyone?? That sh*t is fun!
. Random and Mablak and god knows who deserve to be on top there.
you have a better overall rank than mablak ;D
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You contradict yourself here. If Random got there by avoiding other top players, then why need current top players need other top players to reach that rank? :-X
It would help if that's what I actually said HHC, I never said he avoided other top players that way did I? Maybe think about what I said a bit more carefully.
Let me elaborate a little on what I feel is Randoms thought process, I asked him for TuS a number of times as he was 2nd rank in BnG standings at the time but he knew a 1-1 outcome would lose him points in overall so it's not worth it to him, he would carefully analyze the points he could gain against his chances of winning whatever scheme and if it wasn't worth the risk he would look elsewhere. The exact same method CF used to dominate overall Clanners.
It all sounds like impulsiveness to me. This Kaos league as well. I think we had this scheme for TRL already one month and it had like 20 players max :-[
Hmm, i've been asking to reset Overall every couple months for the past 1-2 years lol, there have been others who have shared this opinion, someone started a thread about it last year I can't remember who but pretty sure there were at least 10 well known players who shared the same opinion.
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you have a better overall rank than mablak ;D
I didn't want to mention myself, but yes, I have a higher rank than him. I'm more allround than him, and probably a little bit better at each scheme as well.
@Komo: aight, ty for clearing that.
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indeed. trl should be played with dreamtrance's scheme only, as bo5 imo, open open close close open.
the tfl scheme sucks.
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-1589/
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It's not outside the realm of practicality to reset overall, it happens on most every ladder or league at some point, especially when activity on the ladder is low. It makes sense.
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Sorry for going so off topic by the way, I did ask for it to be split earlier so hopefully a MOD will do this soon.
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Hi Kaos Players. In the TRL league, can players agree on a best of 3 game? (Not talking about playoffs). It's just that kaos is so long bo5...
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BO3 we playing.
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Is there a possibility to apply most of the rules that were in effect in official pro kaos events?
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be more clear.
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dreamtrances scheme is now official tfl/trl scheme, thanks monkey island.
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-1589/
imo bo3 is good for both, but upon agreement bo5 should be possible.
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TRL kasos wasn't best idea xD
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/TRL-standings/
63 games and 19 players only!!! + 5 days left! >:(
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I guess we don't need a kaos league on TUS after all :D
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yeah sad, but true. whatever..