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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: MonkeyIsland on May 06, 2013, 11:22 AM
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Next scheme for TRL. Same routine, 2 votes per user and you can change your vote. If you like to see a scheme in the list, post it here.
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Aerial. As a stand-alone :)
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Aerial. As a stand-alone :)
AERIAL !!!
me and Jot wanna Aerial too ! Berria probbaly too ! Husk & Vok probably too ! Casso same ! + few Che clan members :P
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HAL will start its second season after TEL. That's why we don't have hysteria in the list. Still think we need aerial?
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Thought it would be nice to do it without hyst for once :)
Naturally you'd have to skip over a new HAL season then :( Glad to see it's coming back btw :)
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yes ! we wanna Aerial !
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Add Darts to the vote ! ;D
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Add Darts to the vote ! ;D
True, that would rock, but then I'll have to vote again! You can even play like 10 Darts games in the time of only ONE BnG game ...
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kaos ! ;)
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Add elite since tel gets disabled again
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Maybe check statistics (https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/seasons-info/) for games played per season in TRL where the running schemes were Kaos and Intermediate and state the obvious by yourself? Do not put into TRL unpopular or popular among very narrow part of the community schemes like Kaos, Aerial, Darts etc. It brings no pleasure for the major part of the community and kills other potentially more active and offering more willingness to play schemes. Anyway, I doubt Darts and Aerial would have won. 2 ruined in my opinion seasons for TRL are enough.
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Dulek, you are missing the point of TRL entirely, it isn't made for popular schemes.
However, Darts is growing more and more popular each week, I bet within 1 year, it will be one of the most popular schemes, you can't use lame scripts or cheats to get better, there is no advantage for having modded keyboards or better technology, all you need is the game and any equipment, plus it's just as competitive as ANY scheme that's ever been made in the history of the Worms franchise, it has less "scheme flaws" than most schemes ever created, especially less with the "Free League" rules & map pack.
Taking the above into consideration, I wouldn't see any valid reason for people to decline Darts as part of TRL.
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abnormal ? :(
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Komo, ~150 games per season is joke comparing to +1000 games from other schemes were people actually contribute for the future by practising the particular scheme for the duration of the season. They surely play it more often by TRL than they would pick it in regular TUS season thus the skill improvement so generally league level benefits by raising the bar.
Yea, it's not for popular schemes but for schemes that get highest amount of votes (except where for example WxW would won twice in a row, then I think MI would not pick it for the next season) it's fine as long we don't cut the activeness by choosing these schemes. I think we all want the league to grow and see more and more games played, I hope you see my point here.
You're doing great job in popularising Darts Komo, we have it in Free League and it's a good start. Add your passion for the scheme, hosting tournaments, cups, games on WormNet and what not, I hope you'll successfully make Darts really known and played scheme. But it's too soon for a TRL and yet another, almost not played season, where not even 8 players make it to POs.
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dulek, sure you are right about the activity ratio of classic and free league schemes,
but it just doesn't makes sense to put always classic schemes into trl,
they are popular anyway !
no wonder that free league schemes never get any chance to be popular. xd
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Many people just don't wanna learn new schemes (I think I'm amongst them). Moreover, they don't wanna try new "classic" schemes, because they require some time to learn too... The community is lazy and unmotivated. I don't say it's bad, it's just "as is" :D
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Komo, ~150 games per season is joke comparing to +1000 games from other schemes were people actually contribute for the future by practising the particular scheme for the duration of the season. They surely play it more often by TRL than they would pick it in regular TUS season thus the skill improvement so generally league level benefits by raising the bar.
It isn't a joke, it's a big difference, but definitely not a joke, Roper/BnG/Elite have been around since w2, that's over 14 years !!! Darts has been around since what, last year?!
Contributing for the future - goes for all schemes, not just classic ones, and I actually take TRL more serious than Classic when it's a scheme I enjoy, for me TRL is more distinguished.
Yea, it's not for popular schemes but for schemes that get highest amount of votes (except where for example WxW would won twice in a row, then I think MI would not pick it for the next season) it's fine as long we don't cut the activeness by choosing these schemes. I think we all want the league to grow and see more and more games played, I hope you see my point here.
One of the main reasons, an important one which many people don't even realize, why people pick Classic schemes so much, is because it's the most common/popular League, it has the most bragging rights, the internet is all about bragging rights... Have you ever heard of an American short story called "The Lottery", the moral of that story is something that happens all over the world, in this case, is isn't brutality, but the same principal, which is "people going along with the crowd".
You're doing great job in popularising Darts Komo, we have it in Free League and it's a good start. Add your passion for the scheme, hosting tournaments, cups, games on WormNet and what not, I hope you'll successfully make Darts really known and played scheme. But it's too soon for a TRL and yet another, almost not played season, where not even 8 players make it to POs.
Thank you very much ! I know it will become very popular, especially with more and more people giving it a chance ! Perhaps you are right, it MIGHT be too soon to put Darts into TRL, but I am like 99% sure, if Darts was accepted as the next seasons TRL scheme, there WOULD be at least 8 players who would meet the requirements to reach the PO, most of which being dS members probably, but it definitely wouldn't be a wasted Season, and more importantly it would REALLY help support the scheme in general and advertise it to make it more popular.
Edit: I honestly see Darts as having the potential to be in Classic League someday, maybe not for a year or 2, but I definitely feel it has that potential if treated properly, definitely more than Hysteria...
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Can you make a post where you will explain what is darts and why we should give it a chance? I mean not the scheme description, but maybe a video, some "cool" games, basic strategy (is there any?), pros and cons... I watched 2 or 3 darts replay, they were pretty boring. And many people don't even know about this scheme. I didn't find any "guide" on the dS forum...
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short answer for the moment:
best is to try it yourself :o
watching rr replay e.g. without ever playin it yourself is boring as hell, too i think.
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Can you make a post where you will explain what is darts and why we should give it a chance? I mean not the scheme description, but maybe a video, some "cool" games, basic strategy (is there any?), pros and cons... I watched 2 or 3 darts replay, they were pretty boring. And many people don't even know about this scheme. I didn't find any "guide" on the dS forum...
Hurz said it perfect there lol:
best is to try it yourself :o
watching rr replay e.g. without ever playin it yourself is boring as hell, too i think.
I actually agree with this, for years I found TTRR extremely boring, same with BnG, until I tried them for myself and got "into it".
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where is abnormal????
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Statik, Darts is just like real Darts, there isn't "alot" to it except practise alot to stay on form, for me the best thing about it is staying as consistent and accurate as possible competing with other Darts players, the strategy is basically figuring out which angle/power to use for each map, this is especially important in dS Tours.
I need to post more but i've ran out of time my bus is in a few minutes, i'll post more to this when I get back in the morning !
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darts is a very fun scheme...
a game here, a game there... its fun... its even fun to competitive game, trying to beat a mate.. but that's as far as it belongs in freeleague, i can't see it going anyfurther..
but you gotta love komos dedication
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but you gotta love komos dedication
ye :-* ;)
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Every thread gets Komo'd =\
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Also, every thread has pointless, useless comments, like what Breeze done ;D
Anyway, I see Darts becoming much more popular in the future, sure it isn't as popular with the oldschoolers, but that is mainly because they are so stubborn and unwilling to give new things a proper chance, at the end of the day, if you don't give Darts a proper chance, it's your loss lol.
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You got completely told and schooled by Dulek though.
We should listen to people like Dulek.
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You, and Dulek, both are entitled to your opinion, as am I, the world isn't just 1 voice.
Besides, if you want a League to practise popular schemes, why don't you go make your own one called practise popular schemes league or something? (Not trying to mock you, it's a serious suggestion.)
MI asked people to mention schemes they would like to see on the list, and so I done that, Dulek started the debate, I am merely defending my beloved scheme, as would you if you wanted something :)
MI has said before I am sure, TRL is used to experiment new schemes, this is a perfect opportunity to make Darts even more widespread and successful ! It perhaps won't happen, but it's worth a try !
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I don't see what's the big deal about adding any scheme to the vote (except hysteria /jk). The one that gets the most votes will be in the next season. That's what people want, isn't it? Isn't it what TRL is there for?
I'd exclude the scheme from last season and include everything people suggest.
What's the fuss for?
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The fuss is that people are voting or being told to vote for schemes that later become totally unexploited.
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all these ridiculous posts by k0m0 come off to me as spam; theres like 5 people in all of worms that have ever/will ever enjoy Darts, if Darts was on this poll there would be 2 votes for it given willingly(k0m0 and Hurz or w.e) And then probally about 8 more votes from k0m0s nut huggers.
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watch here: https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-572/ 20 players in a cup so far
watch here: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/ds-ds-tours/ds-tours-ladder-standings-19127/ 35 players in a ladder.
you can say about his posts what you want, you can call the scheme boring if you want. but saying there is no interest is just wrong.
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watch here: https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-572/ 20 players in a cup so far
watch here: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/ds-ds-tours/ds-tours-ladder-standings-19127/ 35 players in a ladder.
you can say about his posts what you want, you can call the scheme boring if you want. but saying there is no interest is just wrong.
You're wrong Peja. all these 'registered' players in your ladder/cup are people who k0m0 has told HEY WANNA JOIN MY DST>!?!?
get real man, no one likes this scheme
Note: kindof funny how all the registered players are hysterians. LOL
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mmmmm prank yea that's what trl is about =P but it could be used to give chance for new schemes like abnormal/darts, just like we did with kaos and aerial few seasons back
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watch here: https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-572/ 20 players in a cup so far
watch here: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/ds-ds-tours/ds-tours-ladder-standings-19127/ 35 players in a ladder.
you can say about his posts what you want, you can call the scheme boring if you want. but saying there is no interest is just wrong.
You're wrong Peja. all these 'registered' players in your ladder/cup are people who k0m0 has told HEY WANNA JOIN MY DST>!?!?
get real man, no one likes this scheme
Note: kindof funny how all the registered players are hysterians. LOL
great selfprojection onto evrybody else :)
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all these ridiculous posts by k0m0 come off to me as spam; theres like 5 people in all of worms that have ever/will ever enjoy Darts, if Darts was on this poll there would be 2 votes for it given willingly(k0m0 and Hurz or w.e) And then probally about 8 more votes from k0m0s nut huggers.
you dare talkin bout ridiculousness first and than define it new with rest of post :D awesome.
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Thanks for your input deejay, you are entitled to your opinion.
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lol Komo is on this big "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" kick.. its funny
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The fuss is that people are voting or being told to vote for schemes that later become totally unexploited.
"being told to how vote" - but only if they vote on schemes you find pointless? Anyway, you can't really tell if a certain one will work or not. It's not your job to do anyway. I don't think democracy is always the best solution, but in this case, it is.
@Husk - I'm saying the same, mate, yeah some of the recent schemes (last 1-3 maybe) could be excluded from the list, but other than that, every scheme could be included. Why not?
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short answer for the moment:
best is to try it yourself :o
watching rr replay e.g. without ever playin it yourself is boring as hell, too i think.
Well, all the friends I showed W:A to enjoyed me watching roping more than me playing bng or elite.
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Well, all the friends I showed W:A to enjoyed me watching roping more than me playing bng or elite.
Well, no wonder, BnG looks boring even when you enjoy it lol, even I think it looks boring(but not trick shots by myself and lacoste etc ! Those look cool !)... And Elite, it's hard to enjoy this if you don't understand it fully...
Also, thanks for your opinion avi.
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Komo for mascot and t17/roper for TRL!!!
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ABNORMAL ABNORMAL ABNORMAL !
Im fan of ttrr and kaos you know but we tryed those schemes on trl already as well as all others on list, while abnormal is hot, seriously abnormal is slowly loosing its popularity if you dont give it a chance now soon the scheme will just die as dead kaos (kaos trl started too late after that kaos popularity period finished when every one played it and many kaos-only players leave worms, im talking about stripe, igor, venice, explosive, wowwow and others) as result too late start of trl kaos was just inactivity of that league
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i don't getting enjoy by all schemes last time... unless elite :DD
can someone help me here ?
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MI, will Darts/abnormal be included in the vote?
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t17 :)
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Bazooka and Grenade 8)
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just bng now is a cool scheme :)
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just bng now is a cool scheme :)
Pffft lol, no it isn't :P, it USED to be cool before everyone started notching ;)
It's nice to see interest peaking though, I guess i'll vote for it since Darts/Abn0rmal ain't in it...
MI - If Roper wins, what scheme will be used? Prior to S32 or the 2 worms each thing?
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komo, you notch too... the only difference is you have them all memorized..
you can't expect anyone to believe you just bng by the feel, and some luck..
your shots are memorized notches.. you hate the fact that your no longer boss :p
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I've memorised the angles, because i've played BnG a ridiculous amount, you play BnG for like 10+ hours a day for 2/3 years straight, you would hardly miss either, even NOTCHERS didn't play as good as I did when I didn't notch lol, explain that?
The ONLY reason I was "boss" is because I practised more than anyone else and maintained consistency, hence why I suck now.
And as always, you are entitled to your opinion.
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hmmm... bng i want too c: or ttrr in rope
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What's wrong with adding darts and abnormal to the poll? If people don't vote for it, fine but give it a chance at least.
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Add it to the next vote, there is no point now lol, too many people already cast their vote.
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yea, what a big deal to add those schemes?
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Make a TRL: Alternative schemes season for that!
Don't think classic schemes mix the same interest in players like these alternative schemes.
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Kaos, Intermediate are not classic schemes...
And i've noticed he's added Abnormal but not Darts? Why didn't you add Darts but you added Abnormal?
MI, why bother asking people to suggest schemes if you won't put them in the list? Bit annoying that.
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Kaos, Intermediate are not classic schemes...
And i've noticed he's added Abnormal but not Darts? Why didn't you add Darts but you added Abnormal?
MI, why bother asking people to suggest schemes if you won't put them in the list? Bit annoying that.
Well, they just know more about Abnormal because there was a finished cup already and maybe there are not so many people who prefer fast and skillful games like ttrr.
A lot of people voted already anyway, so it is better to add it to the next TRL Poll then maybe ;)
But at least we can play Darts as T-F-League-Games, maybe it would be good to show more actÃvity there, so ask for "TFL Darts anyone?" in Shoutbox and #AG to make it more famous first?! I know there are several random Darts funners and a lot of DS Tours so far, but it could help to persuade some of that people to play it serious for tus free league.
Right now there are only 17 different people who tried TFL Darts yet: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/free-standings/Darts/?s=overall
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Okay now it got added, but how could we vote again? Otherwise it is much too late now.
Anyway, to play more TFL Darts would be nice, too.
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Okay now it got added, but how could we vote again? Otherwise it is much too late now.
maybe the "remove vote" button exists for a reason?
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I don't think democracy is always the best solution, but in this case, it is.
In that case it is? No, we've already experienced the failure of Kaos and Intermediate as TRL seasons.
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Yeah, exactly Dennis, we can't even vote again... I don't see option to change vote? LOL
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Okay now it got added, but how could we vote again? Otherwise it is much too late now.
maybe the "remove vote" button exists for a reason?
Wow, I looked three times, first over the shoutbox but even at the Forum I couldn't find it first. Thank you, Peja, I didn't know it is possible, lol.
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I remember a joke ... Whats the Flag of East Frisia? White eagle on white background! (I hope I translated correct, it doesn't even sound funny in english).
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LMAO, I was same, couldn't even see it ! Now I do !
Sneaky camoflage !
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komo click on remove vote then you'll be able to vote again.
ABNORMALLLL GOOOGOOO !!!
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I don't think democracy is always the best solution, but in this case, it is.
In that case it is? No, we've already experienced the failure of Kaos and Intermediate as TRL seasons.
Why, what happened? All I see on TUS is complaints everywhere, yet no one was complaining about any TRL season, afaik.
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come on bng :)
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Anyway, just because a Season doesn't meet ALL the requirements to make Playoffs, doesn't mean it's a wasted season, I think that's a rather selfish & ignorant statement to make, the players who competed for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place more than likely enjoyed the Season, and they still get medals in their TuS profile.
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Anyway, just because a Season doesn't meet ALL the requirements to make Playoffs, doesn't mean it's a wasted season, I think that's a rather selfish & ignorant statement to make, the players who competed for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place more than likely enjoyed the Season, and they still get medals in their TuS profile.
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Keep calm!
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You've misunderstood Spider, I was making a point, not moaning.
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seems like he understood just fine.... :D
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I don't think democracy is always the best solution, but in this case, it is.
In that case it is? No, we've already experienced the failure of Kaos and Intermediate as TRL seasons.
Why, what happened? All I see on TUS is complaints everywhere, yet no one was complaining about any TRL season, afaik.
If you and the rest are satisfied with having a seperate league branch where the overall games amount is 30/40 times less than in TUS league and 10 times smaller than schemes that major part of the community play for TRL and please less then 1% of the league (but they all get medals for that at least, that's not a season loss, mhm), then fine, keep producing useless seasons and then moan when MI closes such league branch for inactivity.
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Dulek, people vote for the actual TRL scheme. People, who care enough to take their choice and decide. Where is that other "major part" when there's a vote? I take you voted, so I understand your feelings seeing a lower activity after a less popular scheme got the first place, but I don't see anything wrong about that. People who took their opportunity, have fun. That's what TRL is for, in my humble opinion.
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Dulek, the major activity on this website comes from Classic League & people reading/replying to forums while also participating in cups & challenges.
Free League / TEL / TRL are just merely extra Leagues, they don't really bring in much more activity seeing as the people who play these would more than likely be playing Classic League or doing cups/challenges if they didn't exist.
There is MUCH more to this League than just "popular classic schemes", many people enjoy alternative kinds of competitive schemes in a competitive League like TRL, that is what it's there for, I believe at least.
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seriously abnormal is slowly loosing its popularity if you dont give it a chance now soon the scheme will just die as dead kaos (kaos trl started too late after that kaos popularity period finished when every one played it and many kaos-only players leave worms, im talking about stripe, igor, venice, explosive, wowwow and others) as result too late start of trl kaos was just inactivity of that league
yes, but guys just care for classic and most popular schemes,
while other ''noob'' free league schemes gets lost in nowhere.
but whatever np... we can discuss not popular schemes in other threads, while they are dying slowly. hooray !
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People who voted for shopper and wxw should remind their vote!
TTRR have already been "rotated" very much, thanks.
There is still time, come on!
Go roper/team17/abnormal!
When does this poll expire?
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People who voted for shopper and wxw should remind their vote!
TTRR have already been "rotated" very much, thanks.
There is still time, come on!
Go roper/team17/abnormal!
When does this poll expire?
Cool, except the fact that Roper has already been 'rotated' more than TTRR while Team17 equally with TTRR (2 times).
Abnormal ftw though!
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oh that doesn't count...
I wasn't waving around by that rope17 age :/
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have not had intermediate! So let's play it!
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team17 go go go ;D
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t17 :D
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Set MOLE Shopper !! :).