I was looking for feedback/support/criticism on an idea:
I was thinking for a while, why am I bored of playing Clanners recently? I was thinking, cFc is the best clan i've ever been in, they are the most understanding and caring honest players i've had the privilege of playing worms with, so much so I am even sharing a house with a member of cFc at this time present, but surprisingly enough me and lalo have played less than 50 clanners together in the 9-10 months he's been living here.
I have came to the conclusion I can never find the "right moment" to play this game due to my hectic schedule of working/producing music, I never have time to take part in the Playoffs because of work commitments and it doesn't help I generally don't enjoy the pressure of Playoffs anyway.
Recently, i've been joining cFc in TuS, playing some clanners, then leaving cFc in TuS again, at 1st it was just to annoy some people, but then i've been thinking, why can't I just be a free man for hire, if theres a clan online asking for a clanner, they can't get one because there are 4-5 clans online, but only 1 member, I could join the clan on TuS, play a clanner, then leave again after the games have been reported, I would never take part in any Playoffs, I could enjoy the game for fun, I am average or above, skillwise, at every classic scheme for TuS, and I would never pick, I would let my partner or opponents pick the scheme, always.
Does anyone think this would be lame? I just want some honest fun, I would try my best to win all games, and have calm conversations with everyone without getting angry or being a bad loser like I have in the past, if I was able to do this I think I could get more involved with this game again, as a music producer sometimes I run out of ideas or generally need a break for an hour or 2, and if I see someone looking for clanner in AG I could help out :)
I know this idea may scare a few people, I fully understand how people would think with the right abuse this could be a bad thing, but with the clanner crisis at certains times of the day because of timezones etc I think I could help clanner activity and generally people could enjoy this league more, I feel I am an honest enough person/player to make this a good thing, does anyone like this idea? Because I want to go ahead with it.
Some other games/sports have "free agents" which is similar to this.
Id hire you but the clan im in doesnt play clanners huahuzhua. But in all reality, to me, there is nothing wrong with that. Do your thing Dave, and maybe get on msn once in awhile, i have been using that lately.
On another note, I remember a time when theone and i used to pretend to be you and sammyj or something stupid and win clanners for sfx ;) aliasing was cool once upon a time, now you can just be a mercenary for hire. GET IT DAVE
I had MSN on my laptop, but since I reinstalled windows to use it for producing, I don't use net on it anymore, I don't use MSN on this PC as I have problems with it, i'll try to figure out something.
ye, the best way is doing aliasing atm.
Professor, I do not want to alias, I am not doing anything illegal, nor do I want to, I don't want to cheat, I want good clean honest fun to make this game interesting.
If I can't find something, then I probably won't play again.
im with you there komo, i havent played in 6 months, i like being a part of the community more than i do actually playing worms, lol.
Clanners are *fun* for a reason you know? I play clanners when I feel connected to my clan mate. Otherwise it is just plain 2vs2 games. When you see people asking for clanner, you could ask them if they'd like to play single 2vs2 instead.
On the side, you asked for a music forum and 4-5 other forum requests popped out. How would you handle such mess in clanning? What happens when you as a player for hire and me (quiting dP on TUS just for clanners) play a game for CF? How about SPW and Mablak play hysteria for HoN? Now you will set a rule only 1 player for hire must take part in each clanner. So, I hire barman to play ttrr for dP. The whole point that the points getting earned this way are not the true stats of a clan.
Make a clan with people at your time zone or get online at w:a peak hours.
Good post komito.
I would point out another problem. All time statistics is an elite CFC, CKC, mm, ps, CF, ES, TDC
Other clans are just weaker .. Almost all the top players play in those clans.
The problem is that the new clans, new players can not even make the competition equal (and so probably will continue)
Here it would be nice if more clans with similar skills.
Sorry for my eng. i hope so understant this :)
Whats the deal here? I can't understand. ??? :-X
Practical problem: none of any clan's stats would be indicative of anything (maybe only of how many good players have been "hired" for games :P)
Also, what MI said. Its a matter of winning/playing with a person you feel you belong to a team (at least for me).
Other than that, I doubt there'd be people who'd opt for that anyways.
I'm sure you're 100% aware of how personal "pride" in this game reflects, translates and is multiplied as clan "pride". Not sure the satisfaction would be the same if your team were to win by using others who simply happened to be there.
Just my opinion here :)
That is what 2 versus 2 singles are for. And stop saying you are a music producer, you are a guy with a laptop and a Cubase on it, that is not music, sorry. :(
Can't wait for your answer.
best is PS, Camper still loves me even if I fail clanners :D
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 07:25 AM
That is what 2 versus 2 singles are for. And stop saying you are a music producer, you are a guy with a laptop and a Cubase on it, that is not music, sorry. :(
Can't wait for your answer.
Dont be harsh Ray heh, if someone has a passion for something and spends many hours a day doing it in order to someday make a living out of it I give them the right to say they are just that :)
Don't like the idea. I'm 99,998% sure CF would never invite a freelancer just for a couple games. And I'd imagine many other clans wouldn't want it either. :)
Quote from: Desetroyah on May 26, 2012, 07:32 AM
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 07:25 AM
That is what 2 versus 2 singles are for. And stop saying you are a music producer, you are a guy with a laptop and a Cubase on it, that is not music, sorry. :(
Can't wait for your answer.
Dont be harsh Ray heh, if someone has a passion for something and spends many hours a day doing it in order to someday make a living out of it I give them the right to say they are just that :)
Tchaikovsky and Strauss were music producers.
Yes, if somebody has the passion for it, do it, it's okay, that's cool, but only because I love worms and I play in tournaments doesn't mean I say that I'm a gaming professional, I hope you get what I'm talking about.
Go and watch Nutcracker. And no, it's not a videoclip, it's a ballet and the stuff you hear in the background, now
that is music.
As for the topic itself... it sounds weird. Kind of takes away the magic of clanners. But I guess there are no rules against it, I don't think it's very nice, clans generally are a group of buddies playing together or I don't know.
Please Lalo, if you are reading this, Komo needs a warm hug.
and you are not a web developer yet, Ray, hehe.
About the topic... do whatever you want, mm will pwn you anyway.
Quote from: Statik on May 26, 2012, 09:13 AMand you are not a web developer yet, Ray, hehe.
And when did I say that?
Ray, I have alot more than a laptop and cubase, i've invested over £20,000 and worked and studied hard as hell to get as good as I am today at producing and I am still not even 5-10% as good as I plan to be by the time I die, not that it's any your business, one day my friend you will look very stupid for saying that, in fact, wait a minute, you already do ;D ;D ;D
Ray - Professional producers I know have said I produce music at a professional level, that's good enough for me :)
MonkeyIsland, to be honest, there is nothing you can do about it, it's my choice if I want to play WA like this, it's just like real life relations between couples, some like to play the field open and honest, and some like dedicated relationships, it's their choice and I believe they are entitled to it and it's perfectly fine with people who are upfront and honest about it. Dirty rotten cheaters are on the other hand, ie, people who lie and play other people like objects are c@#!s.
Clanners are not the same as 2v2 doubles, that's a really stupid thing to say, 2v2 doubles doesn't even have it's own setup, or standings page, are you on drugs or something? Maybe if there WAS an actual dedicated 2v2 doubles league, instead of and having 2v2 stuck with 1v1 which also ruins the 1v1 streaks etc, I might actually play that, but there isn't, and never will be, so this is my solution, and I feel i've been perfectly honest and upfront about it, which is fine. I have made it more than clear, much to my own humiliation, how angry and pissed off I am that my 122 winning streak at BnG was ruined from a 2v2 game, that SHOULDN'T even be part of the same friggin standings, I should still only have 2 lost games, and I should still have 2622+ points.
This is the MOST IMPORTANT REASON why I feel it's ok for me to do this:
I will not participate in ANY Playoffs, so any clan I play for cannot use my skills to their advantage and use me in PO, and I cannot be lame and just join a clan that is in the PO just for the sake of participating in PO.
I'll wait a few days and see other feedback, of course I won't do this if there are so many people uneasy about it, and so far most people think it's ok for me to do this so that's good news, :)
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 07:57 AM
Quote from: Desetroyah on May 26, 2012, 07:32 AM
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 07:25 AM
That is what 2 versus 2 singles are for. And stop saying you are a music producer, you are a guy with a laptop and a Cubase on it, that is not music, sorry. :(
Can't wait for your answer.
Dont be harsh Ray heh, if someone has a passion for something and spends many hours a day doing it in order to someday make a living out of it I give them the right to say they are just that :)
Tchaikovsky and Strauss were music producers.
Yes, if somebody has the passion for it, do it, it's okay, that's cool, but only because I love worms and I play in tournaments doesn't mean I say that I'm a gaming professional, I hope you get what I'm talking about.
nope, did komo say he is a pro dj or something like that? he just said he is a music producer because that's what he does... and u r not a gaming professional, but a wormer.
With that kind of money, you would have been able to buy a piano and learn what music is. You are a professional, but your views on SoundCloud - or whatever that is - is around 100? Don't make a joke out of yourself.
Producing music requires such skills and knowledge that only a very few of us would be able to learn. Not to mention that that, "my friend", has nothing to do with music. Music is done with instruments, not a computer and some softwares.
Please attach those references from those professional music producers.
I think that way will make clanners a "joke". Anyway the main reason of clanners "crisis" is the avoiding attitude. Sometimes there are like 5 players of the same clan just joining random games, or saying they are not good enough, or not even answering.
Quote from: Komito on May 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
MonkeyIsland, to be honest, there is nothing you can do about it, it's my choice if I want to play WA like this.
That's true. But if you do it awfully a lot of times, people will ask rules to be set against this.
Quote from: Komito on May 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
I will not participate in ANY Playoffs, so any clan I play for cannot use my skills to their advantage and use me in PO, and I cannot be lame and just join a clan that is in the PO just for the sake of participating in PO.
So you think it is not good to use you as an advantage in the PO but it is OK to use you to reach PO?
lol @ Monkey's sig xD
Quote from: Komito on May 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
Clanners are not the same as 2v2 doubles, that's a really stupid thing to say, 2v2 doubles doesn't even have it's own setup, or standings page, are you on drugs or something? Maybe if there WAS an actual dedicated 2v2 doubles league, instead of and having 2v2 stuck with 1v1 which also ruins the 1v1 streaks etc, I might actually play that, but there isn't, and never will be, so this is my solution...
I hear this music any time Komo posts ;D
Also, he didn't say clanners are the same as 2v2 doubles. He said quite the opposite. He said it
would be like 2v2 doubles if you were to be a hired gun. It's not nice of you to accuse him of being on drugs either, Komo (especially considering you managed to misinterpret his english even though he made himself very clear). But it does show you have the right attitude to become a music producer :P
Quote from: Statik on May 26, 2012, 12:50 PM
lol @ Monkey's sig xD
Quote from: MI's sigif my name was IslandMonkey meaning a monkey who is or live in an island.
lives* on* :P
I think its fine komo, but you have to understand some clans will never use you...
CF and mm (possibly more)
But i can think of some clans that will (wont mention names)
You may also run into clans that will refuse to play you..
I think i would have no problem playing you in any random clan in any scheme but bng... mm has a fair amount of bng points, would be rediculous to let some random clan claim you just to attempt to gain points in bng.
If you were allowed to play bng, the list of clans that would want to use you would just be in a rat race to pm you first when you enter ag just to have a big advantage..
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on May 26, 2012, 12:46 PM
That's true. But if you do it awfully a lot of times, people will ask rules to be set against this.
MI, I don't care what other people think, and why the should I need to suffer because of the other bad apples?
avirex, I am fine with not playing BnG, like I said, my partner or opponents can pick, I just want the comfort of being able to play any scheme and not feel crap if I lose.
What clan would want you? lol
You're an idiot. You should be happy cfc puts up with your shit
i guess we all know the feeling of "clannertime" when there is no clanmate available for the moment.
komo just imagine all people with this feeling would change their clans. i am sure you dont want this to happen.
Quote from: Komito on May 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
MonkeyIsland, to be honest, there is nothing you can do about it, it's my choice if I want to play WA like this.
im gonna answer your quote with a quote of Kant:
"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law without contradiction"
Honestly man, if you dont see whats wrong with this then there's something wrong here :/
Sure, lets make TUS a playground just so that you're happy and not bored with the game.
I doubt the whole community would bow down to your wishes because they like you so much.
Personally, ofc I dont dislike you, but some things you say should have a bit more of the "dip-your-tongue-in-your-brain-before-you-speak" ;)
Well looks like it would upset too many people then, not such a good idea after all, but at least I checked before I took action, unlike so many other people and players around here, you should give people a chance before jumping to such a defensive yet aggresive conclusion.
Quote from: Komito on May 26, 2012, 02:56 AM
[...]
Does anyone think this would be lame?
[...]
I think it's lame. ::)
Look i'm just trying to be fair and honest, I get the point, and you are right Dub, I don't know why cFc puts up with me, I am truly a very lucky person.
Quote from: Komito on May 26, 2012, 03:29 PM
Well looks like it would upset too many people then, not such a good idea after all, but at least I checked before I took action, unlike so many other people and players around here, you should give people a chance before jumping to such a defensive yet aggresive conclusion.
Yeh, my thoughts are translated much more aggressively on the internet :/ I should have that checked hehe
Confucius say: Man who tests many waters may find crabs.
Guaton would say : ROFL XDDDD gtfo komo
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 10:45 AM
With that kind of money, you would have been able to buy a piano and learn what music is. You are a professional, but your views on SoundCloud - or whatever that is - is around 100? Don't make a joke out of yourself.
Producing music requires such skills and knowledge that only a very few of us would be able to learn. Not to mention that that, "my friend", has nothing to do with music. Music is done with instruments, not a computer and some softwares.
Please attach those references from those professional music producers.
Music can be whatever you want it to be. And you surely know that some true professionals produce music on the computer, don't you like any video game music? Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon on the N64 still has some of my favorite music ever. People who play their instruments well deserve the utmost respect, but music is mostly about ideas; the world would have hardly any good music if only technically-skilled musicians were making it.
so you want to be a clan whore.
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on May 26, 2012, 05:39 AM
Clanners are *fun* for a reason you know? I play clanners when I feel connected to my clan mate. Otherwise it is just plain 2vs2 games. When you see people asking for clanner, you could ask them if they'd like to play single 2vs2 instead.
On the side, you asked for a music forum and 4-5 other forum requests popped out. How would you handle such mess in clanning? What happens when you as a player for hire and me (quiting dP on TUS just for clanners) play a game for CF? How about SPW and Mablak play hysteria for HoN? Now you will set a rule only 1 player for hire must take part in each clanner. So, I hire barman to play ttrr for dP. The whole point that the points getting earned this way are not the true stats of a clan.
Make a clan with people at your time zone or get online at w:a peak hours.
100% agree
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 10:45 AM
With that kind of money, you would have been able to buy a piano and learn what music is. You are a professional, but your views on SoundCloud - or whatever that is - is around 100? Don't make a joke out of yourself.
Producing music requires such skills and knowledge that only a very few of us would be able to learn. Not to mention that that, "my friend", has nothing to do with music. Music is done with instruments, not a computer and some softwares.
Please attach those references from those professional music producers.
Ray, I want to start off by asking you, what is your problem? What have I done to you that causes you to criticise me in this manner? If what you were saying is true that I am just some guy with 100 views on SoundCloud with a laptop and cubase, it wouldn't bother me because it would be true, but you didn't even question me before you attacked me, you know almost nothing of my musical background, I took lessons in piano, keyboard, drumming, trumpet, guitar, flute, recorder, I have used wooden instruments I can't remember the name of and even recored triangles etc for my own sound library, I have been studying hard theorys of music over the last 12 months and it's starting to pay off for me.
I don't advertise my music anywhere except TuS, when I finish a song I will paste the link once in #AG no matter what time of day, and I am a member of a private production website which I respect too much to say with words, it's no surprise my music doesn't have alot of views, I am not a desperate asshole who wants to become famous and waste his life away, music is my life now, it saves me everyday, it's took me too long to realise that but I am working ever so hard and passionate now, I want to be involved in more genres of music such as country classical jazz rock indie maybe even make a cheesy pop song someday for a laugh.
Since the start of uploading my music to my YouTube account I think last Summer-ish i've had around 1500-2000 plays on YouTube, and i've only advertised it to this community and a few friends at work.
I take great pride in the fact people are starting to suggest my music is polished enough to be considered professional, even though I personally believe I ain't even close to being as good as I want to be, and I still find flaws in every piece of work, I am constantly paranoid people won't like my music or make fun of me but I don't care, those few people who actually like my music give me the inspiration to carry on and keep getting better, I believe I have what it takes, I have issues with my life as a person I need to improve on, I am trying my best to be a hard working honest person on this planet which let's face it can be very scary lonely confusing and frightening at times, I am not the kind of person who believes in fate or anything, but if theres anything about my life which I feel like it's just meant to be, it's the fact that I am so involved in music.
One of my songs may be getting played on local radio next month, if it does, it will be a major achievement for me and the beginning of what I am hoping with every inch of my body will be the greatest journey of my life, I am so nervous and paranoid it's freeking me out, I am not even fully sure I want to go ahead with it...
I have been "producing" music for around 10 years now through means of computers etc.
Like I said before, I have been playing instruments my whole life, although not professional or expert at either, it's helped me understand instruments alot better and how to use them together, not to mention countless other little ideas that is the madness of my mind.
My 1st encounter with an instrument was when I was 7 years old, my Dad got my a little tiny electric keyboard with a soundbank of 20 or 30 sounds for my birthday cuz they found it at some jumble sale, the 1st thing I done was play the 1st 6 notes of the flintstones themetune perfectly supposedly, it was my favourite toy for years, then my mum decided to put me in keyboard classes, I can't remember what grade I achieved but I remember learning Fur Elise and canon and the entertainer, properly with both hands, I can only play some of fur elise now, I can sorta play canon, and I can't even remember how to play entertainer past the 1st part.
I took music at school, and was regulary quite popular for playing the piano before our teacher came into class while this nutter Nick done gymnastic crap back flipping n stuff from the tables n stuff it was mad lol, I remember playing Scotland the Brave and the teacher was like, GET OUTSIDE YOU HORRIBLE LITTLE BOY AND WHEN MR CHRISTIE COMES ROUND YOU CAN TELL HIM WHY YOU ARE STANDING THERE, and all I done was play the piano, and pretty well lol, but he came out a minute later and was like, i'll be honest with you, I didn't know you could play the piano, I thought you were just a little nuisance, he was pretty impressed, he actually let me play for the last few minutes of class for the rest of the pupils every now and then.
I have so many memories, so many stories about music, now that i've started thinking about it, I am starting to remember things I thought i'd forgot forever, like this little dictaphone thing, me and my mates were out smoking dope one day, like 14-15 years old or something, and we ran out of cigs to roll joints with, and my mate lee was like, "av got drum baccy mate, will that dae?" and I was like, "hmmm, a drum joint eh.." then all of a sudden I pulled out the dictaphone and started recording, the chorus was like "what about drum joints, have you ever had one?" I still have that dictaphone somewhere I gotta look it out and try and record it, man that shits insanely funny...
I was on a radio station called Youth FM for a few weeks, I won a competition from our local cyber cafe, where I started playing WA actually lol, i still have the T-Shirt, and my mum has all the media stuff, pictures and things, I am sure there is stuff on the net about it somewhere. Then a few people who were part of it were selected to go do another thing which sadly I can't even remember... Well, I remember this girl Chloe lol, man she was so beautiful and I was such a pussy to make a move on her, no f@#!ing wonder with my dad doing my haircuts at that age... Pfft...
I have so much to tell you, if you would listen, I just don't understand how you can say the things you did without even asking me about my background or history... Well, I hope you are satisfied, doesn't really matter, because I am satisfied, I am lucky, I could not be happier, and I have so many people to thank, and so many people I wish I could meet again...
Edit:
Just checked my SoundCloud page, i've only opened the account about 3-4 months ago:
Plays 1113
Comments 25
Favoritings 1
Downloads 10
Profile Views 1157
I've deleted Around 15 tracks which had around 6 favourites, 10 downloads, and 500-600 plays, with about 10 comments(just a guess by the way, could be more, could be less, but it's a good estimate I think). Not that it matters to me, cuz I deleted them lol, but you obviously need statistics to be impressed.
Coming to think about it, i'm very happy with that with only having informed TuS, a few friends, and a private website, get it up ye !
Yea I'll never read this, shorten it and try again.
No.
Quote from: Komito on May 27, 2012, 07:21 AM
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 10:45 AM
With that kind of money, you would have been able to buy a piano and learn what music is. You are a professional, but your views on SoundCloud - or whatever that is - is around 100? Don't make a joke out of yourself.
Producing music requires such skills and knowledge that only a very few of us would be able to learn. Not to mention that that, "my friend", has nothing to do with music. Music is done with instruments, not a computer and some softwares.
Please attach those references from those professional music producers.
Ray, I want to start off by asking you, what is your problem? What have I done to you that causes you to criticise me in this manner? If what you were saying is true that I am just some guy with 100 views on SoundCloud with a laptop and cubase, it wouldn't bother me because it would be true, but you didn't even question me before you attacked me, you know almost nothing of my musical background, I took lessons in piano, keyboard, drumming, trumpet, guitar, flute, recorder, I have used wooden instruments I can't remember the name of and even recored triangles etc for my own sound library, I have been studying hard theorys of music over the last 12 months and it's starting to pay off for me.
I don't advertise my music anywhere except TuS, when I finish a song I will paste the link once in #AG no matter what time of day, and I am a member of a private production website which I respect too much to say with words, it's no surprise my music doesn't have alot of views, I am not a desperate asshole who wants to become famous and waste his life away, music is my life now, it saves me everyday, it's took me too long to realise that but I am working ever so hard and passionate now, I want to be involved in more genres of music such as country classical jazz rock indie maybe even make a cheesy pop song someday for a laugh.
Since the start of uploading my music to my YouTube account I think last Summer-ish i've had around 1500-2000 plays on YouTube, and i've only advertised it to this community and a few friends at work.
I take great pride in the fact people are starting to suggest my music is polished enough to be considered professional, even though I personally believe I ain't even close to being as good as I want to be, and I still find flaws in every piece of work, I am constantly paranoid people won't like my music or make fun of me but I don't care, those few people who actually like my music give me the inspiration to carry on and keep getting better, I believe I have what it takes, I have issues with my life as a person I need to improve on, I am trying my best to be a hard working honest person on this planet which let's face it can be very scary lonely confusing and frightening at times, I am not the kind of person who believes in fate or anything, but if theres anything about my life which I feel like it's just meant to be, it's the fact that I am so involved in music.
One of my songs may be getting played on local radio next month, if it does, it will be a major achievement for me and the beginning of what I am hoping with every inch of my body will be the greatest journey of my life, I am so nervous and paranoid it's freeking me out, I am not even fully sure I want to go ahead with it...
I have been "producing" music for around 10 years now through means of computers etc.
Like I said before, I have been playing instruments my whole life, although not professional or expert at either, it's helped me understand instruments alot better and how to use them together, not to mention countless other little ideas that is the madness of my mind.
My 1st encounter with an instrument was when I was 7 years old, my Dad got my a little tiny electric keyboard with a soundbank of 20 or 30 sounds for my birthday cuz they found it at some jumble sale, the 1st thing I done was play the 1st 6 notes of the flintstones themetune perfectly supposedly, it was my favourite toy for years, then my mum decided to put me in keyboard classes, I can't remember what grade I achieved but I remember learning Fur Elise and canon and the entertainer, properly with both hands, I can only play some of fur elise now, I can sorta play canon, and I can't even remember how to play entertainer past the 1st part.
I took music at school, and was regulary quite popular for playing the piano before our teacher came into class while this nutter Nick done gymnastic crap back flipping n stuff from the tables n stuff it was mad lol, I remember playing Scotland the Brave and the teacher was like, GET OUTSIDE YOU HORRIBLE LITTLE BOY AND WHEN MR CHRISTIE COMES ROUND YOU CAN TELL HIM WHY YOU ARE STANDING THERE, and all I done was play the piano, and pretty well lol, but he came out a minute later and was like, i'll be honest with you, I didn't know you could play the piano, I thought you were just a little nuisance, he was pretty impressed, he actually let me play for the last few minutes of class for the rest of the pupils every now and then.
I have so many memories, so many stories about music, now that i've started thinking about it, I am starting to remember things I thought i'd forgot forever, like this little dictaphone thing, me and my mates were out smoking dope one day, like 14-15 years old or something, and we ran out of cigs to roll joints with, and my mate lee was like, "av got drum baccy mate, will that dae?" and I was like, "hmmm, a drum joint eh.." then all of a sudden I pulled out the dictaphone and started recording, the chorus was like "what about drum joints, have you ever had one?" I still have that dictaphone somewhere I gotta look it out and try and record it, man that shits insanely funny...
I was on a radio station called Youth FM for a few weeks, I won a competition from our local cyber cafe, where I started playing WA actually lol, i still have the T-Shirt, and my mum has all the media stuff, pictures and things, I am sure there is stuff on the net about it somewhere. Then a few people who were part of it were selected to go do another thing which sadly I can't even remember... Well, I remember this girl Chloe lol, man she was so beautiful and I was such a pussy to make a move on her, no f@#!ing wonder with my dad doing my haircuts at that age... Pfft...
I have so much to tell you, if you would listen, I just don't understand how you can say the things you did without even asking me about my background or history... Well, I hope you are satisfied, doesn't really matter, because I am satisfied, I am lucky, I could not be happier, and I have so many people to thank, and so many people I wish I could meet again...
Edit:
Just checked my SoundCloud page, i've only opened the account about 3-4 months ago:
Plays 1113
Comments 25
Favoritings 1
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I've deleted Around 15 tracks which had around 6 favourites, 10 downloads, and 500-600 plays, with about 10 comments(just a guess by the way, could be more, could be less, but it's a good estimate I think). Not that it matters to me, cuz I deleted them lol, but you obviously need statistics to be impressed.
Coming to think about it, i'm very happy with that with only having informed TuS, a few friends, and a private website, get it up ye !
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oh god
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lighten up Ray :P it's ok to have your own opinions, but you're coming off a bit strong lately.
Komo, keep it up, have fun ;)
Quote from: Ray on May 26, 2012, 10:45 AM
Producing music requires such skills and knowledge that only a very few of us would be able to learn. Not to mention that that, "my friend", has nothing to do with music. Music is done with instruments, not a computer and some softwares.
Please attach those references from those professional music producers.
Ray, that's a narrow-minded and prejudiced opinion that i seriously didn't expect from you. :) Producing electronic music requires just as much musical skills as composing classic music, rock music or anything else which can be crated by instruments. And even more imo, imagine you could make a guitar or a violin sound like basically anything you can imagine, just like when you deisgn sounds with synthesizer. Hans Zimmer for instance, one of the most famous film soundtrack composers, almost entirely uses software to compose his stuff.
Not to mention that this is surely not a topic an internet forum argument has to rise about of course. :P
I don't mind Ray having his own opinion, I am just a bit insulted the fact it's so untrue, and i've worked harder on music than anything in my life.
Thanks franz :)
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Shit, I just listenned to your music after all this "your music is crap" thingy and I like it.. But you are not a professional, what should I do doc ?
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I think it is lame also komo. You said somewhere something about the stress playing clanner. Maybe you should give a try to play in a less competitive clan.
I never said I was a professional lol, I said other professionals have said my music is sounding professional now, to be more specific, they said I now have the skills and knowledge of technique needed to produce certain genres of music that I enjoy professionally, I asked one guy through PM if he thought my music was professional enough to make money(just out of curiosity, I am not in it for the money) and to quote he said, "I have no doubt you'll be able to earn money on your music with your enthusiasm."
I know if I keep at it and always have this passion, I will be professional, I only have a very small fanbase now lol, but it means the world and more to me :)
Back to topic, I am sure i'll figure something out :)
Don't let it get to you Dave, I share Ray's opinion to some extent but in fact electronic music also requires certain skills, very different ones from playing actual instruments but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's "so much easier". :)
You're doing a good job, and I'm sure you'll solve your clanner issues too.
Every producer or beatmaker is on cocaine for sure! Try it, thanks me later. xD
darKz, how can you compare playing the actual instruments with music composing? I don't care if the greatest electronic music producers can play piano or guitar. It's like saying architects are better than engineers/builders. So obvious things... and yes, tastes differ.
Quote from: zippeurfou on May 28, 2012, 08:05 AM
what should I do doc ?
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