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when can i pick w2roper as my pick?

Started by avirex, August 01, 2010, 05:33 AM

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avirex

been more yes votes then no's for a while now...  but in all fairness, its pretty much even... for sake of argument lets call it 50%...    so its fair to say it can be a second option to the roper game...     


please can we move this along, there are alot of people that are waiting for this... 73 to be exact.

TheKomodo

It should either replace the original Roper scheme or not even be in a league at all.

We don't need 2 seperate Rope schemes, think about it...

Pick 1 or the other.

Dulek

This scheme is mainly for skilled ropers. We find it more interesting than normal Roper since it's not as luck based as the previous version was. I can bet that top ropers will play it almost everytime. Let's just add it, finally.

TheKomodo

The original scheme is MUCH better in my opinion, if played on a map that doesn't fill 80% of the land available...

I have played the w2 scheme alot, I even played proper ropers on w2.

Neither scheme is for better skilled ropers, both schemes take as much skill as the other.

Ropers were perfect 4+ years ago, then people started hosting more and more evil maps.

Seriously, if you look at ropers back then, and ropers now, you would notice the only thing stopping it from being purely skill, is the fact the maps are so ridiculously evil nowadays that EVERYONE gets crate raped eventually, even the BEST ropers around now always lose a fair few games due to evil crates even when they rope perfectly.

Some people say "It's boring on old style maps" I don't see why, imo they were perfect because you could actually collect your crate AND attack every turn with hard crates, if you fell, then that's where you deserve to lose, not because of crates, and imo it was much more fun being able to collect your crate and attack EVERY turn because you have the skill, not the luck.

This scheme, with still ridiculous maps, doesn't solve it in my opinion, however I would like it if it took over form original roper, but NOT as a second choice, it should be one, or the other, there is absolutely NO need for 2 rope schemes...

Rok

Whatever happens, it won't happen before the next season/league update. That's at least 17 days from this moment on.
chakkman> if rok was a girl i d marry the bitch lolz

avirex

komo, we understand ur one of the 55 the voted no... but this thread is not about whats better, its about when we will move on for the sake of the 73 that want the scheme in ;)

roks post seems pretty fair, but still waiting to hear from MI.

TheKomodo

To be fairly honest, if this was a proper vote, it shouldn't even be worth it unless EVERYONE votes, and there are hundreds apon hundreds of players, so 128 votes, isn't anywhere near a perfect count.

I voted no because I do not want 2 seperate roper schemes, there should only be one, now if the option was Should w2Roper replace the original Roper scheme on TuS? Then perhaps I might have voted yes...

73 people? Please... Not even close to being worthy enough.

Maciej

#7
lol, there will not be added w2roper scheme to classic league
that's the same idiotic thing like 7 girders added to t17 scheme
for what changes scheme which is here for long long years, even bofore I first time joined wn, if you are gonna destroy it, create your own w2 league, and play worms2 instead of w:a
57% is not enough, but I'm still surprised that 73 ppl voted for yes... I feel some cheat here. There was poll about karma system, where almost 50% wanted any change, there was nothing. So next time get 95% of votes or make own league like freestyle bng ROFL (but from other site it's not best option too, because it seperates worms world... I mean players)
I played few times in my life in this scheme and I didn't like it, even if I don't like much classic roper scheme too. I voted NO ofc

avirex

when i first started playing w2.. it was 15 second roping too... shortly after people learned to shadow, it evolved... lmfao...

another important reason it was 15 second turn time, is because b4 S*natch made the w2 patch, there was only 9 rope swings per turn!! so u would either have to use long strides of rope, or after getting cr8.. drop down, and re-fire rope b4 u go to attack...   


so yea, the scheme has been around on w:a for a long time sure...  but unless u guys cant shadow, or only have 9 repeat swings, there is no reason for 15 second turn time... 

but anyways, this debate is not about if u guys like the scheme or not, that was the other thread, ur a day late, and a dollar short...

this thread is about when i will be able to pick w2roper scheme, majority voted yes.

Maciej

you will not be able to pick it because it won't be in classic schemes...

MonkeyIsland

W2Roper (which I voted yes to) is like a fetus now. Although some of you have worked hard to spread the word about it, but many parts of the community haven't tried it yet.
So as the poll stated in the first place too, it will be a second choice to the classic roper MEANING upon agreement 2 players can pick this scheme and report it as Roper. If someone disagrees with the w2roper, then the classic Roper scheme must be played.
As time passes, we'll have more clear image of w2roper and its role may change in the league.

Quote from: Rok on August 01, 2010, 08:36 AM
Whatever happens, it won't happen before the next season/league update. That's at least
17 days from this moment on.

This.
Due to massive misunderstandings: MonkeyIsland refers to an island not a monkey. I would be a monkey, if my name was IslandMonkey meaning a monkey who is or lives on an island. MonkeyIsland is an island which is related to monkeys. Also there's been a legend around saying MonkeyIsland is a game. So please, think of me as an island or a game.

avirex

how will it ever change? the people that dont want to give it a try will never give it a try... ur giving the lesser majority power over the higher majority? what are we a bunch of n@#!!!s? wtf?!! BULLSHIT!

avirex

i understand your trying to be fair to everyone here MI.. but ur fairness (although probably unintentional) is leaning towards the "no" votes, and that is just bullshit...


if 2 players want to play snipers shotgun game, and report it was a t17, as long as THEY agree on it, what the f@#! is the difference, its their choice!!  *cough* like when me and dibz played w2roper, both agreeing on it, and accepting it yet got warned... that was also bullshit...


its just all bullshit.. bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

MonkeyIsland

Quote from: avirex on August 01, 2010, 02:39 PM
if 2 players want to play snipers shotgun game, and report it was a t17, as long as THEY agree on it, what the f@#! is the difference, its their choice!!  *cough* like when me and dibz played w2roper, both agreeing on it, and accepting it yet got warned... that was also bullshit...

Spain and Netherlands in world cup final could agree on using their hands in the game right? or maybe punch each other in the face? It was their final game, their decision? no! It is still football and it is still a WC game, running by FIFA.
It is still a Roper game, running by TUS.

Trust me, you don't want the other way around. If a system validate a scheme, it gives credit to it. A league which people play "our agreement, our rules, our schemes" creates a big mess and kills any credit/honor a scheme could have.
Due to massive misunderstandings: MonkeyIsland refers to an island not a monkey. I would be a monkey, if my name was IslandMonkey meaning a monkey who is or lives on an island. MonkeyIsland is an island which is related to monkeys. Also there's been a legend around saying MonkeyIsland is a game. So please, think of me as an island or a game.

Chicken23

I agree with komo!! All the roper maps 8-9 years ago were so much easier and all the top ropers still dominated them. Gundam used to be used in clanners by HoS and TEA and what not and other map packs were too hard as the super evil ones you have today! I have a nice map pack of maps were you don't get many impossible cr8s if anyone is interested! It reduces cr8 luck and focus's on consistency of attacking EVERY turn.

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