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Other Things => Off Topic => Topic started by: nino on May 10, 2012, 05:57 PM
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I want one, to discurss about training, nutrition and steroids.
Make me the mod please
Thanks
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Woulda be very interesting. +1 for that. I'd like to be mod aswell ;x
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heh, I know its kinda serious but I took steroids for 2months once, just to see the difference xd
idiot
I'm a regular in the gym as well, for 10+years now, so I can help with info here for anyone who wants.
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heh, I know its kinda serious but I took steroids for 2months once, just to see the difference xd
idiot
I'm a regular in the gym as well, for 10+years now, so I can help with info here for anyone who wants.
Seriously, what happened after you took steroids? I mean the side effects tho.
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Depends on what you take and for how long ofc. My dosages were controlled by a "specialist", and I only saw a very fast shedding of fat, and bulking up, period. No (visible at least) side-effects for me.
Potential side-effects from the substance I was using could've left me blind and shit like that :P I've never taken drugs or smoked, so I guess I had to try something heh
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lol nice, i never took any kind of steroids , i could take if some doctor help me, like they help profissional bodybuilders.
ye would be nice to have a forum to talk about this indeed.
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Wanna talk about body and stuff? Google it and search a proper forum .
This is a Worms Armageddon forum firstly.
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any1 interested in pets? want to know what are the weirdest and best pets, or maybe what pet not to buy to ur kids? come to Husk's new pet forum: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/off-topic/pet-forum/
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STFU fat boy, that an adult talking not ur business .
I know there are many bodybuiding forum over internet but i want to talk about it with my friends of WA can i? ty gtfo ae
Yes, talk via pms or link them to another forum, lol.
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Depends on what you take and for how long ofc. My dosages were controlled by a "specialist", and I only saw a very fast shedding of fat, and bulking up, period. No (visible at least) side-effects for me.
Potential side-effects from the substance I was using could've left me blind and shit like that :P I've never taken drugs or smoked, so I guess I had to try something heh
You were taking pills, right? It would take quite a big body not to suffer the side effects if it was liquid enhancers, and not just gym big, but pounds big.
Unless they're now selling a really weak Winstrol (which is a brand that gets weaker and weaker just in hopes they are legally accepted in some countries)
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STFU fat boy, that an adult talking not ur business .
I know there are many bodybuiding forum over internet but i want to talk about it with my friends of WA can i? ty gtfo ae
Yes, talk via pms or link them to another forum, lol.
Dude ill talk here, i bought tus ask MI feel happy for not being banned lol
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STFU fat boy, that an adult talking not ur business .
I know there are many bodybuiding forum over internet but i want to talk about it with my friends of WA can i? ty gtfo ae
Agree.
Kaleu, I really dunno what's the sense of your post.
@Desetroyah
So you took pills? If you take it trough injection, you can get steroid-acne on yar back and yar breast, or?
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It was in tiny pills, only used it for 2months like I said. No side-effects at all for me, but I'm not sure what would happen for a different body-type/length of time etc.
When I did that small "treatment" I was 80kg (175cm) with 11% fat. It was during summer around 4years ago and the results were: more general strength, slightly more defined abdomen (everyone knows that if you continue for years with steroids you obtain a protruding stomach) and thats all I recorded really, I didnt want more because of the risk involved and because I just wanted some fast results for a photoshoot. I dont plan to do it again in the future and I wouldnt recommend it to anyone, some bodies have limits that their owners are unaware of ;/
Thats about it.
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STFU fat boy, that an adult talking not ur business .
I know there are many bodybuiding forum over internet but i want to talk about it with my friends of WA can i? ty gtfo ae
Yes, talk via pms or link them to another forum, lol.
Dude ill talk here, i bought tus ask MI feel happy for not being banned lol
Very funny nino, btw I can be banned from a site but not from playing worms, fool.
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Just stfu fatboy lol
Bedeep bedeep bedeet thats all folks
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STFU fat boy, that an adult talking not ur business .
I know there are many bodybuiding forum over internet but i want to talk about it with my friends of WA can i? ty gtfo ae
Yes, talk via pms or link them to another forum, lol.
Dude ill talk here, i bought tus ask MI feel happy for not being banned lol
Very funny nino, btw I can be banned from a site but not from playing worms, fool.
Kaleu who the f@#!ing cares....
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We can always give kaleu a subforum in the bodybuilding section where he can keep on improving his 'before' pictures gwahaha ;D
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XD would work I think
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Impossible, have u already shown any pic to us?
I wonder how weird u can look, to be idiot like this everytime or just 4ever alone no offense. XD
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come on now nino, kaleu and impo. stop being 12yo and let this topic serve its purpose, ty.
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go to my mafia forums also and post some hot shit there pls!
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/off-topic/mafia/30/
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lol destro i opened the thread forgot? iam not here to troll
actually id love if MI creat a forum for these kind of talking for real
MI please? :)
or I could just create a community , but porra id have to quit any iam already in >:(
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I'd be up for a body building forum here. Would be cool for all of us to be a hench community as well as an amazingly skilled one :>
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Nino, u just have to have 4 or 5 members in the community... Then u can get a forum...
Style and cue are community-less thats a start
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ye mate but iam already in fos,ea and mm cant join another lol.
MI >:( huahuaha
But ye good idea ae. atleast we would have it and could discurss about.
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So it got serious? Really? A bodybuilding forum inside a worm-related website?
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Ye MI it is, tus is our second house, we dont just share our WA love here, we share our lifes.
Bodybuilding isnot just a sport man! this is a lifestyle! aeeeeeeeeeeeee
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sorry drunk xD
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So it got serious? Really? A bodybuilding forum inside a worm-related website?
I think the solution would be to create a community BoW - Boybuilding WOrmers or something like that :P
This way, we could just create a forum for the community.
Just an idea
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Attaching forums to groups is still done manually and I'm not sure if it is a good idea to have non-related "boards" on TUS. Same goes for music, pets and cars, At least not so visible as other wormy boards.
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I dont have a clear idea about this either and not sure it'll be that popular, just trying to help heh
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To be frank, I don't see why you would need a forum for, I mean, an official maybe even stickied thread would be enough IMO.
Because these forums tend to die.
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I came here to watch the the bodybuilding "forum" that some guys told me :P
well, good luck next time.
Btw, oral steroids sucks... go to the vein man, less harmful.
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Btw, oral steroids sucks... go to the vein man, less harmful.
awww mate u dun wanna go there, I did that and my balls disappeared... xDDDDdddddddd maybe :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Here we go, taken during bulking up period a while ago. Now I'm a bit less defined cause of the damn injury :/
PS: Open Image (not "link") in a new Tab after you click on them here
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Nice pics Deset.
How long till you're back to that level do you think?
;O
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not much, around 2weeks or so. The bulk is not lost easily as long as you eat relatively properly in your break.
Important tip: if you find yourself in situations where you cant workout for a few weeks it only takes working out once a week but with 90% weight and 6-7 reps with 1-2min intervals (2-3sets) to maintain your max strength levels and since this workout is pretty easy, you can do all muscle groups (you can even use compound exercises like chin-ups, tricept dips, push-ups etc so that the workout takes even less) once and you'll be kept at a stable level for up to 5weeks like this.
I dont think I'll go for a leaning stage this summer, I'm happy with my definition even now and I wanna get even more dense before I attempt to shed all the fat.
My goal is to create such dense muscle ( I dont wanna increase body weight anymore, I'm already big enough for my taste) that even relatively prolonged absence from the gym for whatever reason wont affect my overall fitness level.
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Glad you put on some shorts for the third picture, after the first two, i felt like there was going to be a large helping of cock in my future ;D
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Glad you put on some shorts for the third picture, after the first two, i felt like there was going to be a large helping of cock in my future ;D
Disclaimer: ALL PICS were taken with shorts.
maybe cropping them made them worse I guess :P
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Cool. Hopefully I'll have some update pics in a month or two.
:)
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My goal is to create such dense muscle ( I dont wanna increase body weight anymore, I'm already big enough for my taste) that even relatively prolonged absence from the gym for whatever reason wont affect my overall fitness level.
Go for a sarcomeric workout instead sarcoplasmic, 5 reps max, or like you said before with 90% :P
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(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3466/201205271641201.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/201205271641201.jpg/)
Let's see how I change from now in another month or 2.
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(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3466/201205271641201.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/201205271641201.jpg/)
Let's see how I change from now in another month or 2.
damn cu you been hitting that head with the razor, you look hard as hell. Don't want to run into you in the alley bro. ;)
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Lol, weird seeing your chest hairier than your head.
But yah, baldness is a good way to intimidate people, especially when you have spent hours in the mirror taking "tough guy face" pictures xD
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But yah, baldness is a good way to intimidate people, especially when you have spent hours in the mirror taking "tough guy face" pictures xD
That makes no sense. You starting?
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The 1st part is true, it DOES intimidate people, the 2nd part is just a joke mate.
Seriously, you are so paranoid these days mate, I can see you getting into alot of fights in the future if you don't stop being so para lol. (I'll be cheering for you obviously xD)
Are you taking drugs for the bodybuilding? They may be making you more para/aggressive or something.
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lol komo xD
@ cue , gj ae.
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Nah, you're cool. I was just trying to get into the whole hard man character.
Drugs. Nahh, if I was taking roids I'd look a hell of a lot different. Plus I can't afford them.
Just good old fashioned protein :)
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Yah well, it's working mate, you do look intimidating :)
You just need to practise on your voice now, because I don't fancy your chances against Englands toughest after they hear you singing "I'm a noob" lol xD
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cue, i remember you as different looking.. and on the chunky side... have you improved your body this much?? or is my memory bad??
either way its looking good.. but didnt you break up with your girlfriend??? whats with all the feminine bedding and stuff??? lol.. new gf? or you have a soft side? ;p
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whats with all the feminine bedding and stuff??? lol.. new gf? or you have a soft side? ;p
Lol just noticed that when you said it, true, wtf's up with that, are you a gigilo for an old person?
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Hah, you don't have to water down your words. I was fat, pure and simple. Here's an old picture of me which my mate sent me the other day.
When I split from the whore and had to move back to my folks I have been training like crazy. This picture was probably at my fattest stage around when I filmed the I'm a noob unplugged video but since July last year I've gone from a 36" waist to a 30" and gone from 14.5 stone to 11.
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5456/dsc005461.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/256/dsc005461.jpg/)
That's my parents room in the recent pic.
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Keep them pictures coming boys
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Keep them pictures coming boys
hahaha i don't want to imagine, what you're doing in front of your pc now. jokee... ;)
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Yeah cue, you were a fatass! I gotta give you props thougj, very good job man! Keep it up ya stud
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Good shit boys...
I'm a hardcore gym/fitness rat.
I lift 4-5 days a week, and do cardio at minimum 3 days a week - heavy into cycling as well.
Also big into stretching, so recently I have been trying to do yoga as often as possible.
I also diet heavy with the leangains program.
5'10
170-174lbs
Don't know any of my 1RMs because I don't really max out ever. Usually do 4 sets of everything
For bench I'd assume my 1RM is about 305LB, give or take. I typically work 4 sets of ~10 with ~225lb, with slight increases/decreases depending on strength/sleep/food.
Deadlift [Just started doing these again recently, ie: 6 weeks ago due to a back injury]... I work with 315LB, probs 1RM is somewhere around 405-455lb..
Barbell Squats, always do ATG - usually only work with ~285 depending on how I'm feeling. If I'm feeling a bit shaky, I'll go to smith or squat machine [not the lying squat sleigh...] and go to 315 or so.
Military Press usually work with 125lb-135lb only.
Forgot to mention... No 'bikes'.. all natty w/ supplements....
current stack:
(http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/bc9c2c4c8b4c11e19e4a12313813ffc0_7.jpg)
Haven't used the oxyelite yet though bc I didn't bulk like I had planned to...
Also my cardio from the other day...
(http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/8a683128aac111e1a39b1231381b7ba1_7.jpg)
edit to include some progress photos...
this is while I was trying to bulk, using leangains diet.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/shaides/workout_3-02-12.jpg)
After one month of cutting, I was here [pic taken warm after workout]
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/shaides/april_16.jpg)
This is me at rest 2 weeks or so ago... these photos are cold and on rest day...
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/shaides/relaxed2_5192012.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/shaides/relaxed_5192012.jpg)
Last edit bc I didn't proofread well when I wrote this.
for DLs and bb squats I work upwards to 315 [DL] and squats [285]..
usually will warm up with 135 always on both, then for DL I typically will do 185x12 [really an extension of warmup on DLs], 225x10, 275x8, 315x6, 315xfailure, if its over 3 reps I'll do another set til failure, if its over 3 reps then I'll continue, until finally failure is under 3 reps....
Barbell Squats I work with a similar building progression except if I start feeling my legs shake or my back breaks correct form, then that's my equivalent of failure.
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ae mofockers!! no work outs, no suppliments, no diets...
just naturally sexy ;D
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haha, avi cant you upload a higher resolution pic?
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I'm down from 235 when i broke my pelvis playing tackle football in grant park in downtown Chicago last year. I had my girlfriend feed me with a spatula most nights when i was lying down for 3 months recovering. Today I hit the scales at 194. Not too f@#!ing bad, chaps. My 1 rep was 190 after not working out in ages, looking to get to where shady is. Granted im a tall bastard at 6'3". Shady, I feel like i saw pictures on first blood when i visited those forums, you were a beanpole looking bastard. You have put on some serious weight since then. Good job training there bud.
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That's awesome dude. Huge congrats on your progress and I have so much respect for you, between the injury, rehabbing, and then your progress to where you are at now. That is huge and takes so much dedication and heart. Nothing but respect to you.
The numbers are nothing but that... numbers. Of course it's fun to compare, but hell, if I could have the same results lifting at lower weights, then I would absolutely love to do that. I'm only 'so high up' here from the time I've put in, and of course natural progression .
Yep, I was a beanpole back from ages 13-20... In my 20s I was around 185-190... then after breaking up with my gf of 4 years, I let myself go pretty hardcore. Got to 198lbs when I realized, holy shit, I am a fat f@#!. Of course 198 wouldn't be bad, but I have to imagine I was something like ~30%BF.
I've been working out and eating healthy religiously for over 2 straight years now. Would love to know what I'd look like, if I didn't drink so much... Lately I've try to cut it back hardcore, but Summer makes it difficult... Right now I have been getting BF% readings between 9-11% with calipers, and upwards to 13% based on scales.
edit: Forgot to say thank you for the kind words; greatly appreciated.
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Heres a good pic of me right now i snapped,
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/jimcoombs/2012-06-06213614.jpg)
I'm not as rounded as the rest of the fellas here, but at least im not wearing a bra anymore, and the ladies aren't exactly cringing.
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That's awesome dude. Huge congrats on your progress and I have so much respect for you, between the injury, rehabbing, and then your progress to where you are at now. That is huge and takes so much dedication and heart. Nothing but respect to you.
The numbers are nothing but that... numbers. Of course it's fun to compare, but hell, if I could have the same results lifting at lower weights, then I would absolutely love to do that. I'm only 'so high up' here from the time I've put in, and of course natural progression .
Yep, I was a beanpole back from ages 13-20... In my 20s I was around 185-190... then after breaking up with my gf of 4 years, I let myself go pretty hardcore. Got to 198lbs when I realized, holy shit, I am a fat f@#!. Of course 198 wouldn't be bad, but I have to imagine I was something like ~30%BF.
I've been working out and eating healthy religiously for over 2 straight years now. Would love to know what I'd look like, if I didn't drink so much... Lately I've try to cut it back hardcore, but Summer makes it difficult... Right now I have been getting BF% readings between 9-11% with calipers, and upwards to 13% based on scales.
edit: Forgot to say thank you for the kind words; greatly appreciated.
yeah it is what it is when you have money and live in a big city. i feel like a lot of people here cant really relate, when i lived in downtown chicago it was going out to restaurants every night, and drinks after. Once it warms up in the big two (CHI, NYC); theres a festival every weekend, an event with an excuse to fire down food, when during the winter you can just go home on a daily basis. I feel like when i get back to chicago in a week, people are just going to be hammering me to go out and eat nasty food and pound down mixed drinks on a daily basis. Problem being, I dont want to kill all the progress ive made here in tucson.
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you look like you are sucking in, Walrus :P
shady, I was always under the impression that supplements were a huge waste of money... also read many articles saying that most of studies involving supplements were done by people who were hired by the supplement industry... doesn't sound very trustworthy.
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i guess we will hear from shady but from what i see multivitamin, fish oil and creatine esp all have plenty of research on the benefits and should be a given
protein as a supplement as in to supplement what you can't get in your diet from real foods same as bcaa's and glutamine
cla is a fatloss substance that i believe has okay research but these things arent necessary an can cost a load
tbh its fkin confusing all the research i agree.. especially when you see long lists that say "may help with blah blah", a lot of stuff has no conclusive evidence but the top three are pretty much accepted
if you eat right and lift heavy you will see results regardless of supplements
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you look like you are sucking in, Walrus :P
f@#! ya im sucking in, what do you think men have been doing in self-pics since the beginning of time? You ever taken a picture for a woman that wanted one? You suck that shit in and take the picture. It's a cute idea that i took this picture just for TUS, but unfortunately, thats not the case, the other pics are NSFW.
EDIT: And for the record, about half the stuff shady has is beneficial, the other half, oversold as beneficial. Creatine, protein, fish oil (fantastic minus the burps), multiVIT, beyond that, the stacker is garbage, might as well stack some deca with annabol, i did a cycle in high school to get big. I wish i had the money to get all that stuff though, i just use protein.
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Madog is correct and on point for the most part.
I haven't had a moment to respond to this thread from my computer, but will be back shortly and give a more detailed response.
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Creatine gives you nice results, for me it is the most efective supplement
but really nice and impressive results...only with steroids and hard work. = /
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you look like you are sucking in, Walrus :P
shady, I was always under the impression that supplements were a huge waste of money... also read many articles saying that most of studies involving supplements were done by people who were hired by the supplement industry... doesn't sound very trustworthy.
He posted a progress photo, which takes balls. Who cares of what he is doing or how he looks. It's motivation for him, myself, and others - ya know?
As far as supplements being a waste of money... That's all relative to what you believe your money is worth lol.
As far as supplements being bullshit... some are, no question about it. Those are the ones that don't do well and aren't reviewed by hundreds etc. The supplement industry is a multi-billion dollar industry; there are bound to be thieves in there.
To go as far as saying all supplements aren't effective or do as promised is a blanket statement. That's certainly not true.
Madog was pretty much on the money when it came down to breaking down my stack.
Everything I am currently taking [with the exception of OxyElite, which I haven't started taking yet], are all natural dietary supplements that you get from food. The problem is when you're an athlete or working out in a gym, in order to receive the proper amount of nutrients and vitamins, you'd go broke based on cost of food, and you'd be sick as a dog to eat that much.
Protein, Creatine, BCAA's, and Glutamine have all been researched and tested for decades now. They are effective; and they 10000% provide results. That being said, the results vary from person to person - but they're all COMPLETELY beneficial to athletic training. Protein and creatine work hand in hand to build muscle, and delivery hydration to your muscles.
BCAAs/Glutamine help with recovery of muscle [since working out is tearing/ripping muscle and letting it rebuild], as well as they slow down the rate at which your body burns muscle... So by taking these, the rate at which muscle burns becomes even slower even if the rate at which you're burning fat increases.
CLA is heavily researched, but results vary completely. It typically comes naturally from salmon, but by increasing the dosage, studies show that it has anti-cancerous properties, and is a natural fat burner.
Optimen is in my mind, the best vitamin on the market.
Also I disagree with nino to an extent on roids; which I have no problem going into further detail to discuss when I have a bit more time.
I haven't ever taken them; but I wanted to and considered it in the past... I researched heavily, and know quite a damn bit about them considering a lot of my friends have taken them, and my extended family is comprised of all heart surgeons and gastrointestinal surgeons...
After extensive research I became against using gear like that and the only time I can sympathize and agree with people using them is when it's directly correlated to one's income and/or under the guidance of an endocrinologist due to a disability to produce sufficient hormone levels.
Edit: Forgot to mention that fish oil is a completely proven supplement as well. There is a laundry list of benefits that fish oil provides... Things such as keeping your joints lubricated, anti-cancerous properties, preventative of heart disease/alzheimers... the list is huge. Def worth taking regardless of whether or not you burp up fish smells.
Optimum Nutritions fish oil pills do not have a taste or a smell whatsoever. I never burp up anything like that.
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ae komomilkman! huahauha
and.. nah, could not take a better pic.. took it from my phone, only kind of camera i own....
not sure why its as blurry as it is though, i took 2.. both came out shitty.. normally they are a bit better quality...
i wanna start working out again... but i can never get motivated...
once you get in a routine, its easy to keep it... but its hard to start :X
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shady, what i want to say @ steroids is... if u really wanna look big.. like arnold looked, ronnie coleman, jay cutler and many others u need to take them.. no way.. you and me may look strong near some wormers here..but we are just small rats near these pro bodybuilders... u know that.. they live for that ...
so what i mean is.. if u want to be 120 kilos all veins and massive as f@#! u must take it and train hard for years..
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shady, what i want to say @ steroids is... if u really wanna look big.. like arnold looked, ronnie coleman, jay cutler and many others u need to take them.. no way.. you and me may look strong near some wormers here..but we are just small rats near these pro bodybuilders... u know that.. they live for that ...
so what i mean is.. if u want to be 120 kilos all veins and massive as f@#! u must take it and train hard for years..
i met jay cutler in florida, i need to find the pic and post it, i got a picture of both of us flexing with me looking all tiny haha. ran into him in the airport.
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shady, what i want to say @ steroids is... if u really wanna look big.. like arnold looked, ronnie coleman, jay cutler and many others u need to take them.. no way.. you and me may look strong near some wormers here..but we are just small rats near these pro bodybuilders... u know that.. they live for that ...
so what i mean is.. if u want to be 120 kilos all veins and massive as f@#! u must take it and train hard for years..
i met jay cutler in florida, i need to find the pic and post it, i got a picture of both of us flexing with me looking all tiny haha. ran into him in the airport.
haha nice m8, now tell me do you think you would get big like him only with proper food, suppliments and hard trein? no way xD
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Oh, of course it takes roids to get big like Coleman etc...
I thought you were generally stating that to look good, you need roids...
Jay Cutler of the Chicago Bears??
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ahh k. now we are talking the same language shady. hehe
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Haha shady, more so this:
(http://www.rebodybuilding.com/forum/attachments/pro-npc-competitors-photos-videos-forum/177827d1281429153-new-jay-cutler-pics-per-bernal-photo-shoot-jay-cutler2.jpg)
Than this:
(http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/jay-cutler-qb-chicago-bears.jpg)
Although I would have rather met Jay Cutler of the Bears.
Jay Cutler was really big back in the early 2000's i think, im pretty sure he was mr. universe at one point.
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Hahaha, oh yeah definitely not the same Jay Cutler I was referring to.
Nino - do you legitimately want to be a professional bodybuilder and look like Coleman??
I mean, everyone works out for different reasons - mine certainly isn't to look anywhere near that.
I'm pretty damn happy where I am at; ideally the only thing I would like is for my six pack to be more visible. My top 4 abdominal muscles show blatantly, but the lowest 2 need more work..
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Nino - do you legitimately want to be a professional bodybuilder and look like Coleman??
yes and no... ye i d like to be a professional bodybuilder.. but for this u must dedicate ur life and have a genetic favorable too. lid say iam too old for this and genetic isnot that favorable.
but ye i work out to get big not to get fit. :)
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Nino - do you legitimately want to be a professional bodybuilder and look like Coleman??
yes and no... ye i d like to be a professional bodybuilder.. but for this u must dedicate ur life and have a genetic favorable too. lid say iam too old for this and genetic isnot that favorable.
but ye i work out to get big not to get fit. :)
Dude, the best bodybuilders are close to 40 ;)
Its a very well-known fact that muscles get more and more mature with age, they look much better by time. I can see it on me as well. My muscles look great even when I stop gym and good eating for a while. Its the transition from ~20 to 24 that has made a visible difference on me and I think it continues much longer than that, every bodybuilder acknowledges this.
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i know man but they start around 15 or so too..anyway... lol
brb endocrinologist get some roids hehe.
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ye i aint read no replys yet but lift consistent an hard an u will enjoy urself
nino uahaha
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sukn in wal ;D
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Decent morning lift session then great run on the beach - recovery time now.
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i know man but they start around 15 or so too..anyway... lol
brb endocrinologist get some roids hehe.
Phil Heath started at 21 (at least his 1st cycle), of course he has an amazing genetic, but as someone said before, 38 - 40's are the best age for BB (the peak), so I'll assume that you still have some years to reach that point ::) . I know some people who started at 26, 27, and they are amateur BBs now (they have like 35,36), with steroids of course, there's no discussion on that, BB it's a sport, not a matter of wellness nor just gettin shape and shit like that.
Ah, the numbers of weights in squats/DL/BP doesn't matter... this is bodybuilding, not weightlifting, where the main reason of the strength comes from the CNS, not the muscles.
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So it's legal to take steroids in professional body building?
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So it's legal to take steroids in professional body building?
Yah, for "clean" BB there is the "natural" class.
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Ah fair enough. I was gonna say. Bit like using hax. Shouldn't be allowed!
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the natural bodybuilders dont get any recognition, name me one that can compete with a name like ferrigno, shwarzenegger, ruhl, or coleman. they should, but unfortunately its only the biggest and baddest that get the endorsements and attention.
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Guess I'm the only one here who lifts/diets/trains for fitness :D
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Guess I'm the only one here who lifts/diets/trains for fitness :D
Its all about the chicks and glory xd
Hah, I do it because I've been into high level sports since I was 6 and exercising is a drug for me, if I dont do it, I get depressed and feel shit.
Also, it is something that gives structure to my day since I havent had a really long-term job so far. Having to wake up at usual time, make something specific to eat and prepare something for later, plan how many hours you'll have till your next meal and workout, etc etc.
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I've shagged significantly more women since training seriously. I can't lie that this is the main motivator.
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I mean, those are all the reasons why I do it as well.
It's a mixture of things, but it certainly isn't for the sport to look like Ronnie or any of those guys. I would never want to look like that, but for each their own.
I grew up playing sports as well, and working out is a good way to keep me mentally healthy as well. I have a GF of 4 years who gave me an ultimatum to get married and I said nope... after that I was like "holy shit I am a fat f@#! now". I was 198lbs and in the worst shape of my life.... That very day I joined the gym and have been working hard every day since.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/te1rk/offering_broscience_service_ill_test_your_protein/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/uva9t/big_reddit_protein_powder_measurement_results/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ag9uT-E4EIL7dFZPZnR0WVZybGtFWnRKNzdKNm9XOVE&toomany=true#gid=0
i have no idea if this is legit, but this guy apparently testing the protein content of various powders compared to what they claim
shady... your myofusion is in the list and it says it only has 50% of the protein content that it claims to have. fack lol. one of em american pure whey doesn't even have any in lol.
i've been a bit demotivated to go to the gym recently. i've made progress but its so fkn slow, when i add up all the time i imagine i spent in there this year it just seems like a lot of time.
i agree its good for mental health so im not plannin on stopping, just hitting the gym everynow and then to hopefully maintain before i go in hard again.
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fuccck lasted about 25 mins in the gym
need to stop smoking, need some motivations guys
@shady, where do you live man nice beach
@cue, fukn nice progress how'd you do it? i'm about to do a week at 1500 cals to drop some fat, i know i should do it slower but i cant stand dieting for too long (inb4 steroids)
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i'm about to do a week at 1500 cals to drop some fat, i know i should do it slower but i cant stand dieting for too long (inb4 steroids)
Switch carbs with protein dude. The digestion or protein burns far more calories and increases the metabolism 30-40% more.
General knowledge: For a person who does not exercise (or a gym man on his "off" day), the maximum amount of calories in his day is expended during digestion! Digesting is a process that requires suprisingly high amounts of energy from the body. This is the reason why all diets have 4-7 meals per day. Practically, the more you eat the more you burn calories!
Obviously, in order for this to happen, you need to make sure your calories come mostly from slow carbs (wholemeal stuff mostly, and no "white" wheat/pasta/bread) and protein.
So madog, I suggest not decreasing your calorie intake, but increase (spread through the day) your meal count and switch everything that has fat in your diet with something with less fat and/or more protein.
As a rule of thumb, have in mind to keep the protein-carb ratio to 50-50. Doctors suggest 60-40 but for weight-loss diets its recommended the carbs are dropped to ~30% even.
Motivation: Dude, take pics of yourself. There is nothing more motivating (for 90% of people) than seeing your "before", "during" and "current" pics and reminding why you do what you do and seeing it paying off :)
Good luck with it.
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that's interesting destroyah except i more or less completely disagree
whilst digestion does use some calories i think it's negligible the difference between what you're suggesting i.e. meal timing or what it is, if you have any studies to this i'd like to see (edit: been searching for a breakdown of how maintence calories are spent.. not found much.. any hints?)
i have come to understand the 4-7 small meals a day a myth of past decades, what matters is overall daily intake and timing is not important, and also that to lose weight you must be in a calorific deficit (below maintenance) like to gain weight you must be in a surplus
hence many new diets since as intermittent fasting, lean gains and so on where there really is no "window" as such like "you must drink your protein shake within 20 minutes of working out" which is just lies
maybe one day i will try your method of keeping the same calories just switching out carbs but for me i'm sure its a simple equation of calories in vs calories out for weight loss, plus i want to do it quickly
the thing i do agree with is that high protein is good to keep as much muscle mass as possible
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If yo wanna lose fat without losing muscle and energy, try a semi-ketonic diet like the Anabolic Diet of Dr. Di Pasquale. You can eat alot of tasty meals (cheese, sausages, all meat that you want, with fat, eggs, etc) for 5 days a week, without worried about the 2-3 hours stuff and shit, and the the weekend you can eat spagettis, bread, rice, whatever you want. Make some strenght routines, and keep away from cardio, or at least, do cardio without passing the 130PPM. The idea is to burn the fat, not the entire body
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@Madog: what I said about the diets are basically the bread and butter of every bodybuilder, its common knowledge stuff among people who exercise. I'm not quite sure how you can "completely disagree" with something that has been the recipe that has worked best for so many athletes, including fitness athletes ofc, without having that much experiece in the field.
@Twyrfher: I'm talking about people who want to look good with fitness/BB standards, if the goal is to simply "be thinner" then yeh, w/e diet makes you happy :P
PS: the fact that digestion is such a calorie-spender can be easily seen in the very damn purpose you dont go to the sea after having eaten. Most of the body's blood and resources have concentrated around the stomach for the digestion process and because the heart cannot pump hard enough to satisfy the digestion taking place together with pumping to the skin so that the heat loss is minimised (body temp is 36.6 Celcius and the sea usually is at best 27 so the body is trying to maintain its temp) and you end up having a heart failure. That's the main cause of "drowning", not swallowing water, that's just the end result ;)
Just a little example to show just how much energy is expended during digestion.
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@cue, fukn nice progress how'd you do it?
Running. When I got my smartphone and and ap called Runstar I got very motivated.
It records all your runs and routes and times and distances etc then it will upload them automatically to a community called Dailymile where like minded people encourage one another to reach their training goals.
I recommend getting Runstar if you have a smartphone.
When I went from 13 stone to 11 I was running 50 or so miles a month.
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@Twyrfher: I'm talking about people who want to look good with fitness/BB standards, if the goal is to simply "be thinner" then yeh, w/e diet makes you happy :P
So you don't know the Anabolic Diet my friend.
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@Twyrfher: I'm talking about people who want to look good with fitness/BB standards, if the goal is to simply "be thinner" then yeh, w/e diet makes you happy :P
So you don't know the Anabolic Diet my friend.
The anabolic diet is meant to be coupled with strength and power training, did you get the impression madog is on that stage?
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@Twyrfher: I'm talking about people who want to look good with fitness/BB standards, if the goal is to simply "be thinner" then yeh, w/e diet makes you happy :P
So you don't know the Anabolic Diet my friend.
The anabolic diet is meant to be coupled with strength and power training, did you get the impression madog is on that stage?
So i didn't get your point @ the first quote of me ;O. Anyway, I was going to post a pic of the guy who taught me the diet, but also I know people who has just started to lift weights with very good results.
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@Twyrfher: I'm talking about people who want to look good with fitness/BB standards, if the goal is to simply "be thinner" then yeh, w/e diet makes you happy :P
So you don't know the Anabolic Diet my friend.
The anabolic diet is meant to be coupled with strength and power training, did you get the impression madog is on that stage?
So i didn't get your point @ the first quote of me ;O. Anyway, I was going to post a pic of the guy who taught me the diet, but also I know people who has just started to lift weights with very good results.
Yeh, but like I said, the An.Diet is not good for: athletes, and people who dont exercise intensely.
If Madog were to take up gym seriously then he could look into it, otherwise I dont think it's a good choice for him. Also, An.Diet is hard on your pocket. Grocery bill goes off the roof heh xd
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destroyah that was the bread and butter of bb'ing 20 years ago, things have moved on
you don't need to eat every 2 hours
the simple formula i have ingrained is calories in vs calories out
so have you actually lost weight staying at the same calories and just replacing carbs with protein? i dunno...
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@cue, fukn nice progress how'd you do it?
Running. When I got my smartphone and and ap called Runstar I got very motivated.
It records all your runs and routes and times and distances etc then it will upload them automatically to a community called Dailymile where like minded people encourage one another to reach their training goals.
I recommend getting Runstar if you have a smartphone.
When I went from 13 stone to 11 I was running 50 or so miles a month.
damn, that's a lot of running mate
i'll have a look into it, i have now got a phone with gps so was lookin at these things
my main problem was shin splints so i'm gonna ease into it and stretch properly before/after
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destroyah that was the bread and butter of bb'ing 20 years ago, things have moved on
you don't need to eat every 2 hours
the simple formula is calories in vs calories out
Well, you clearly need no help from us I guess. I explained why and how what I said is the fact.
Tell us how your plan is working out for ya.
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sorry dest, i realised that was a bad post, please read the edit, i wanna know if that's really worked for you cause it's completely the opposite to everything i've read since i started training
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It has worked perfectly for me for years (with minor modifications each time, in trial-and-error method, since I had to find which foods work best for me for example). I was a professional swimmer and I found that only small changes were needed (although they were substantial in some cases, since sometimes I wanted to gain 5kg of muscle, or lose 2kg of fat etc).
I will try find my "before" and "after" pics. When I do these diets (while exercising regularly ofc), I usually lose 3-4kg staight off the bat (if I havent gone to the gym+been too busy for a few months), and then I stay on a normal weight and the conversion of fat into muscle happens, while keeping pretty much the same body weight. This means you look thinner in clothes, while being bigger and stronger.
Obviously, the greater the weight you wanna lose in the beginning, the bigger adjustment in calories you need to make for that time, and then see how its going.
I'll update with pics when I find them.
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it's been trial and error for me also, i have spent most of the past 9 months trying to find the right calorie count and macro breakdown to gain lean mass
for the last month i havnt been f@#!ed counting cals and eatin a lot of carbs to the point i'm gettin fat
last time this happened i dropped to 1500 for a week or so and dropped it almost instantly so yea i guess this works for me (edit: with EC stack)
i've been meaning to give this a go and is the basis for most of the things that i've read http://artofmanliness.com/2012/01/25/intermittent-fasting/
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I would say eat normally. Cut out the obvious like chocolate and crisps, junk food etc and do as much cardio as possible.
Good luck man.
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yea that can work.. the idea being you burn calories doing the cardio and leave yourself in a deficit (i.e. under maintenance) and hence lose weight
the same effect (i.e. weight loss effect, minus cardiovascular health etc) can be got by not eating some of these calories in the first place so you don't have to burn them off
the thing i'm having a hard time understanding is dest sayin you can lose weight by changing the composition of the macros you eat i.e. more protein, less carbs and you can lose weight this way
afaik if you eat at maintenance no matter what the macro composition you will not lose weight however this is something i will have to try for myself, maybe it can go some way to changing body composition i.e. lose fat, gain muscle i honestly have no idea
the only thing i can think of is maybe without the available carbs for energy the body turns to fat stores however also afaik protein can also be utilised for energy and essentially a calorie is a count of energy so in some regards a calorie is a calorie, and whatever calorie you stick in is going to be used instead
fyi i'm not fat i'm looking to lose a single kg at most, i'm naturally very lean
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yea that can work.. the idea being you burn calories doing the cardio and leave yourself in a deficit (i.e. under maintenance) and hence lose weight
the same effect (i.e. weight loss effect, minus cardiovascular health etc) can be got by not eating some of these calories in the first place so you don't have to burn them off
the thing i'm having a hard time understanding is dest sayin you can lose weight by changing the composition of the macros you eat i.e. more protein, less carbs and you can lose weight this way
afaik if you eat at maintenance no matter what the macro composition you will not lose weight however this is something i will have to try for myself, maybe it can go some way to changing body composition i.e. lose fat, gain muscle i honestly have no idea
the only thing i can think of is maybe without the available carbs for energy the body turns to fat stores however also afaik protein can also be utilised for energy and essentially a calorie is a count of energy so in some regards a calorie is a calorie, and whatever calorie you stick in is going to be used instead
fyi i'm not fat i'm looking to lose a single kg at most, i'm naturally very lean
Protein helps build bigger muscles and having bigger muscles naturally burns more calories so you could say that protein leads to greater calorie loss.
But in terms of general weight loss I did understand that it didn't matter how you consumed your calories or in what form.
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ye that's what i understood cue, however i'm open to some kind of recomposition that i have read about specifically with carb cycling and other such techniques however i'm unsure of how great the ability to build muscle without eating a surplus is, most sources i've read claim it's impossible but i kinda hope it's possible in some way
i am kinda the exact opposite of you cue, i have next to no body fat - i'm sure you had a good base under that, trust me it's fkn harrrrd to gain lean muscle when it aint there in the first place and just hidden
the only place i get fat is my neck which has led most of b2b to call me fatneck ever since i mentioned it months ago ;D
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Then you gotta eat tonnes of protein and lift loads of weights. I would get yourself a protein shake to supplement the protein you get from your food. You know all this shit anyway I bet.
Would be good to get you posting a pic so you have more motivation to work hard for your goals and post some progress pics.
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Would be good to get you posting a pic so you have more motivation to work hard for your goals and post some progress pics.
:<
and so we can see this fatneck you speak of.
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:)
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Good shit. Nice and lean. Any definition and muscle growth from now on will be instantly noticable.
Get to it mofo.
I also use a press up ap which you can get on android (and probably ios too) - I've done it every other day for months now and can now do 100+ press ups in one hit. It really worked on my chest. Also it will be worth you doing some ab work every other day as well if you can be arsed. Get some definition on the old 6 pack.
Good luck man. Now you've posted that pic you gotta get on it.
:P
(this is the ab workout I do. I've been doing it for months now and can only just get to the end of the workout without dying) - Will move onto stage 2 in a few weeks I think) - When I started I couldn't even get half way through it. It really is a bitch but you will notice some considerable growth in your ab muscles after a short time)
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ill be uploading some pic of bull nino soon... working hard on legs xD
looking like a lil ronnie...10x smaller hauhua
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i had my top 2 abs showin at one point, i have weighted captains chair on one of my days
i'll check out that vid later, one thing i've seen is p90x has a pretty brutal ab workout but i think weighted is the way to go tho, abs are a muscle like any other, gotta overload it progressively to get some growth
the main thing i've changed since the first year is i'm hitting the free weights and compound lifts exclusively since i've stopped f@#!in around doin stupid machines
absolutely love working on bench press and deadlifts, my bench needs some serious consistent work to make any progression, deadlift has made good progress, literally only started workin arms exclusively past couple of months... bench is a fkn bitch that doesnt love me, if i ignore her for a week i go back two
cue i would definitely get a bit more mass and then lean down hardcore imo you would be ripped mate
nino get some pics up mate, legs are brutal, i am genetically gifted with nice legs, i hate not bein able to walk for days but it's something i need to start working on soon
avi, no fatneck pics, trust me its fat as f@#!
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maddog have u seen some recent pics of me on "post your pic" thread? anyway ill take some others to show ae.
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rofl ya iam looking strong? xDD strong monobrow porra
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Even your brow got muscles lol
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I haven't had a chance to really read in detail what all of you are saying; but I too do not agree with the 5-6 small meals a day method.
I don't think it's wrong, nor do I think that it doesn't provide results.... I just personally have personally had and have seen better results with IF diets. I am on the leangains diet, and I rave about it. I'll never do a 5-6 meal regimen ever again.
edit: misspelled 'think' lol.
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rofl ya iam looking strong? xDD strong monobrow porra
arms looks sick man
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ae img is f@#!ed cos i was holding my cock..to take the pic then i decided to delete it from pic.
so thats my progress in legs..i want it much bigger.
(http://s17.postimage.org/rsxyxruwr/pernas.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rsxyxruwr/)
Calf aeee
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Bull man. Gj ae.
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the legs looks fine.. why would you want bigger?? wtf !!
or is it the pernas that you want bigger? huahauha
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lol avi..perna = leg xD
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omg, why i ddint see this topic b4?
nino, u got looks really bigger than the last time i saw ur pic 0o
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omg, why i ddint see this topic b4?
nino, u got looks really bigger than the last time i saw ur pic 0o
thouson is ready to fux huahuahaha
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omg, why i ddint see this topic b4?
nino, u got looks really bigger than the last time i saw ur pic 0o
thouson is ready to fux huahuahaha
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omg, why i ddint see this topic b4?
nino, u got looks really bigger than the last time i saw ur pic 0o
thouson is ready to fux huahuahaha
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just joking buddy ;) man the language barrier is strong on these boards sometimes!
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i ddint undestand... shit... explain ae plz hehe
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today
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edit: had to make the pic lighter... for some reason when i upload from my phone to here it came out much darker...
hope this is better
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do u work out legs too shaddy? or since you do it to get fit u dont care?
show some progress ae puto
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Ya I work out legs too... Usually twice a week at a minimum.
Only thing is that I do cycling/spinning, which is somewhat counter productive to putting size on in my legs. My calves are decently big, with veins popping out like crazy, and my quads and hammys are thick.
I'll post pics when I get home. Your legs def look far bigger than mine.
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working out legs is useful, but the ppl who have really big legs that i see here are used to Cycling/spinning as u said, or play soccer, run on the seaside.The ppl who only work out legs without aerobic exercise, dont get big.
Do yu do it nino?
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what i do mainly is sguat ( agachamento ) exercise.
leg press and some others i dunno the name in english xD
and always with heavy weights.
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See but cardio follows the laws of diminishing return. Depending on what your RHR, WHR, and MHR is, and whether or not you keep your heart in its correct zones is what determines the type of results you have.
Usually the trick is to do low impact cardio at a brisk pace, keeping your heart rate slightly above RHR. Most builders will only walk on a treadmill at 3-4mph with an incline.
Since I spin heavily, as well as stairs and run, I burn fat at a higher rate, but at the cost of burning muscle at a higher rate as well. So often I end up setting myself back on lifting gains, bc I burn away too much muscle. That's why "most" cyclists are extremely thin, and not bulky/muscular. They end up burning through stored sugars and fats, and their body begins fueling itself with muscle.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/te1rk/offering_broscience_service_ill_test_your_protein/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/uva9t/big_reddit_protein_powder_measurement_results/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ag9uT-E4EIL7dFZPZnR0WVZybGtFWnRKNzdKNm9XOVE&toomany=true#gid=0
i have no idea if this is legit, but this guy apparently testing the protein content of various powders compared to what they claim
shady... your myofusion is in the list and it says it only has 50% of the protein content that it claims to have. fack lol. one of em american pure whey doesn't even have any in lol.
i've been a bit demotivated to go to the gym recently. i've made progress but its so fkn slow, when i add up all the time i imagine i spent in there this year it just seems like a lot of time.
i agree its good for mental health so im not plannin on stopping, just hitting the gym everynow and then to hopefully maintain before i go in hard again.
Funny that you posted this recently.
A legitimate lab [not some dude doing home tests] tested a bunch of the proteins today, and Myofusion came out with some of the best results.... They uploaded it to their own website.
Check it here : http://www.gasparinutrition.com/news/viewnews.aspx?id=276
Results posted here:
(http://www.gasparinutrition.com/images/misc/examplea_myofusionprobiotic.jpg)
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Shady, i looked into the leangains diet, looks good because im trying to lose weight and build a little muscle, mostly weight loss right now, do you have any good links you could shoot me or resources online? Thanks.
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Good place to start is here:
http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html
It's sorta like a site map, as you read it, you'll follow through onto other links of articles he has written. After that I suggest you go on BB.com and sign up to the forum there, start using the search function and using Lean Gains.
There are several different routines you can use while on the LG diet; you have to choose whichever one makes most sense to you - or adjust one to work with your daily schedule.
Any specific questions, don't hesitate on asking. I'll do my best to answer :)
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See but cardio follows the laws of diminishing return. Depending on what your RHR, WHR, and MHR is, and whether or not you keep your heart in its correct zones is what determines the type of results you have.
Usually the trick is to do low impact cardio at a brisk pace, keeping your heart rate slightly above RHR. Most builders will only walk on a treadmill at 3-4mph with an incline.
Since I spin heavily, as well as stairs and run, I burn fat at a higher rate, but at the cost of burning muscle at a higher rate as well. So often I end up setting myself back on lifting gains, bc I burn away too much muscle. That's why "most" cyclists are extremely thin, and not bulky/muscular. They end up burning through stored sugars and fats, and their body begins fueling itself with muscle.
i knew about burn muscle with a high exercise, but ddint knew it was based on the heart rate...
Shady, i was reading on that guide,it discussed about a fasted training... so eating too much "good things"(like proteins) can decline the gain rate? Or its bad only for lean body mass?
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becoz i gain mas and definition "easily" but i lose very fast when i stop, so i think i couldnt do a fasted based training, i can gain only eat a lot 0o
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eat a loooooot , train like a bull..results will come.
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i need to work out regularly for mor than 3 months to get really big...
last year, may,june, i had 37cm arm, nice legs from football, ( i am short, so 37 arm is really nice for me, my ideal is stay with 38-39,5 to be gostoso hehe) but i travelled and returned sick... -2 months, now i am going to return to that point, in 2 months i ill be there... next week i ill have money for my whey protein hehe
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My daily workout regimen:
Lift+Throw Hay x20
Wheelbarrow pushs x40
Shovel Shit x100
Split Wood x?
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6 pack!
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My daily workout regimen:
Lift+Throw Hay x20
Wheelbarrow pushs x40
Shovel Shit x100
Split Wood x?
lol dub f@#!in lumberjack haha. theres a real canadian right there.
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haha nice workout dub
solid mate
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/te1rk/offering_broscience_service_ill_test_your_protein/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/uva9t/big_reddit_protein_powder_measurement_results/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ag9uT-E4EIL7dFZPZnR0WVZybGtFWnRKNzdKNm9XOVE&toomany=true#gid=0
i have no idea if this is legit, but this guy apparently testing the protein content of various powders compared to what they claim
shady... your myofusion is in the list and it says it only has 50% of the protein content that it claims to have. fack lol. one of em american pure whey doesn't even have any in lol.
i've been a bit demotivated to go to the gym recently. i've made progress but its so fkn slow, when i add up all the time i imagine i spent in there this year it just seems like a lot of time.
i agree its good for mental health so im not plannin on stopping, just hitting the gym everynow and then to hopefully maintain before i go in hard again.
Funny that you posted this recently.
A legitimate lab [not some dude doing home tests] tested a bunch of the proteins today, and Myofusion came out with some of the best results.... They uploaded it to their own website.
Check it here : http://www.gasparinutrition.com/news/viewnews.aspx?id=276
Results posted here:
yea some lab testing paid for by gaspari hmm... not quite independent is it
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for nino - not the greatest pic, will take a better one
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good job ae man.
dunno why u said my legs looks bigger than yours, it seems kinda the same for me.
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Dinner... love brussels sprout so much.
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Hardcore back session followed by an intense 170F sweat session. Wasn't long before my iPod and iPhone stopped working.
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Why'd you take them in with you, just testing or what?
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It was no big deal.
I needed to shave, so I went in there thinking that they would be fine for a few minutes while my pores opened up. Guess I was wrong.
Today was a serious squats and deadlift day.
Exhausted now... Relaxing in my living room as the sun sets.
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ill be starting a steroid cycle next week...this gonna last for 1 month..ill post pics after that..cos bull xD
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ill be starting a steroid cycle next week...this gonna last for 1 month..ill post pics after that..cos bull xD
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My lunch when i finished the nutritional supplement... hehe
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My lunch when i finished the nutritional supplement... hehe
That's some muscle food right there. Good job. Progress pics?
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Real men work to get muscles. Metrosexuals workout :P
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My lunch when i finished the nutritional supplement... hehe
Eggs?? ahuaha, farting like a boss after XDDD
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Real men work to get muscles. Metrosexuals workout :P
Metrosexuals do look better though, gg xd
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My lunch when i finished the nutritional supplement... hehe
That's some muscle food right there. Good job. Progress pics?
I ill put a pic here, lemme take some photo... now is 3-4weeks i restarted to work now
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3-4 weeks of training... its less than now, now i am with 36cm, in this pic i was a little smaller...
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Your build is pretty athletic, gj :)
I'll post some progress pics, 4weeks after my injury, this Saturday.
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Your build is pretty athletic, gj :)
I'll post some progress pics, 4weeks after my injury, this Saturday.
Ty man
What kind of injury did u have? i had 2 months totally stopped coz of 2 injurys + exams...
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I'm not sure about the precise translation but I think its called "muscle rupture", and I got a bad one. I basically tore my right quad in 5 places :/ It wasnt pretty.
I've lost 4kg of muscle because of that heh, oh well.
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=O
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I'm not sure about the precise translation but I think its called "muscle rupture", and I got a bad one. I basically tore my right quad in 5 places :/ It wasnt pretty.
I've lost 4kg of muscle because of that heh, oh well.
what exercise u were doing when it happened? squat?
btw i can squat with 100 kilos on my backs for 6 reps, 90 graus mode. f@#! YEA! hehe
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Nice job. Im currently squatting 320lbs (145kilo). Usually ladder up there and do about 10 reps, and ladder back down.
On Tuesday I laddered up to 265lb on flat bench (120kilo) for two reps , but think I overextended on the way down to my chest as my rotator cuff is hurting like a motherf@#!er ever since. =(
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Nice job. Im currently squatting 320lbs (145kilo). Usually ladder up there and do about 10 reps, and ladder back down.
On Tuesday I laddered up to 265lb on flat bench (120kilo) for two reps , but think I overextended on the way down to my chest as my rotator cuff is hurting like a motherf@#!er ever since. =(
Be careful with the rotators ;O try some Cuban Press for warming up before train again chest or shoulders, and sometimes the rotator suffer too much when the rear deltoid is unbalanced compared to the rest of the shoulders muscles. And well, keep the scapular retraction during all the move, always =/ for some bodies the flat bench press is a pain in the ass excersise, producing the pinched rotator cuff injury even if your technique is 100% well executed.
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Back in the gym after several days off bc of shoulder injury.
Ate like CRAP all weekend.
Felt like euphoria stretching today.
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Love your photos Shady, you got a keen eye :)
You actually make it look, meaningful, passionate... A lifestyle, instead of something just bragging about or showing off...
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Indeed, but still, progress pics are a different story, and only represent what the name suggests: pics of one's flexed muscles as a photographic diary, they're not, "oh lets not look like trying to flex cuz thats gay" hehe.
I got to get my camera shit together and post something here like I promised soon.
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Love your photos Shady, you got a keen eye :)
You actually make it look, meaningful, passionate... A lifestyle, instead of something just bragging about or showing off...
Thank you friend.
I'm big into photography, although I haven't been as active with my DSLR as I should be.
I'm very active on instagram however.
Destroyah: That pic isn't me flexing, neither is the one sitting on my couch lol... That was strictly more of an artsy photo; though I do definitely take progress pics along the way.
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Good job ae putos.
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Destroyah: That pic isn't me flexing, neither is the one sitting on my couch lol... That was strictly more of an artsy photo; though I do definitely take progress pics along the way.
Yeh I got that dont worry :P
I was referring to Komo's comment about "these are nice pics, whereas the others show self-involved and egotistical people posing in front of a camera" :) Despite that the fact that it is partly true, that does not change the fact that they also are very useful as far as motivation etc go.
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i dont like to post a lot of pics of mine in front of mirror too, its a bit weird, like we are showing ae are ncie 0o
But about work out, progress pics are nice to motivation, motivation is extremely important to we dont stop trainning
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take a picture of ur dick and post here, I can pay u via PayPal
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Just an update here...
Had to take it easy in the gym over the past month or so.
Had some stranger spot me in the gym on a chest day... bad idea. I was working out with 225lb (102kilo), and he told me that I need to go up in weight... to make a long story short, he encourages me all the way up to 265lb. Tried to knock out a few. Like an idiot I only got two reps before I got stuck with it, and he didn't spot me in time... and I felt my shoulder strain immediately.
Ever since it's been hurting, although right now it's close to all gone. That being said, I've been trying to work through it at 185lb, max reps per set until complete failure.
Ironically today I do squats and DLs and I'm not sure if I worked too hard, or if my form got sloppy on the squats, but my lower back already is agitated. Damn it I suck. Sad thing is I felt it happen while I was at 285lb squat, which is 35lb lower than what I typically work up to.... Goes to show you that you don't have to be lifting 'heavy' in order to hurt yourself....
Always be careful fellas.
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maybe best to take the time off shady, just keep the same movement with bar weight or slightly more - i heard you don't want to rest it completely so yea working through it sounds best but maybe lower for a bit, all depends how you feel tho, they say a week to deload is beneficial anyway
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549 interesting article here on intermittent fasting, altho slightly more hardcore version than the bodybuilding version, the lowering of growth hormone is meant to be good for long life but i can't see that being too good for building muscle. not sure if any of you non-UK people can get it over there but the full documentary is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01lxyzc .. showed some ancient man running a marathon at the start, absolute madness
as far as what i'm doing im back home now and missing the fully equipped strength training room at uni and endless olympic weights, tryin to maintain an get by on a less than ideal dumbell workout as i can't really afford to join a good gym right now, weighing up the possibility of gettin a good 100kg+ olympic barbell & bench or goin for the gym membership.. what ya'll reckon? i reckon id go harder in the gym but then a good set of olympic weights should be a life long investment
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i have never had a gym membership, but just an opinion... based on theory, i guess....
if you have the money for only 1, or the other.. i would go for the gym... get the bench down the road when you have more money to spare...
like you said, you will get a better work out, you will meet people, make friends, etc... form work out partner friendship, and maybe even outside the gym friendships, maybe even find a gf (if u dont all ready have one) ... or maybe just a f@#! buddy, even better.. but yeah, gyms the way to go :D
as for me, i have been jogging recently, im starting to see more defined abs... im a skinny (gangster, right frank?) guy so i dont think ill ever be big... i have tried... but i just wanna be defined, and cut... reall nice abs would be awesome, and down the road some great pecks to compliment the abs will seal the deal, girls will not be able to resist me.. ;D hauhauah
btw: im also doing pushups when i go on jogs, dont think i hope to get pecks strictly from jogging :p
i feel pushups, situps and body weight work outs are best for the results i want... i think a better diet would be good, but i could never stick to it... i eat whatever, whenever... i could never see myself getting on a strict diet...
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avi i think you may have to get fat to get pecs... maybe just get super fat and absolutely smash chest and back for a few months and then u can go back to being gangsta
ofc people will tell you to do it properly but then again we aint all super humans who have the self discipline to go against our natural habits and start some nazi diet and training routine
edit for words
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also i think the gym membership and banging athletic girls left right an centre is kind a myth, the kinda gym i wanna go to i doubt there is many girls that dont have clitoris larger than my cock
kinda leanin towards olympic weights but i aint got the money for either so im a bit f@#!ed
btw i would try get a backpack/some sheet on your back full of bricks/rocks etc and do your press ups that way, bodyweight is fine up till a point, then you are gonna want to get a bit more weight involved
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are you saying you have a small dick??
why are you saying im "gangsta" ? because that gay looking guys says it??? or is there another reason im not seeing at the moment? :D
anyway.... i cant get fat if i tried... and trust me, i have tried... the only time i got even remotely close to fat was when i had a broken foot, but even then.... not so much......
on a side note, gl with ur big clitoris girls.
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why are you saying im "gangsta" ?
Huuauhauauhahaua
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because that gay looking guys says it???
whats so funny fr4nk?
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Y u involved in all fights N discussions in TUS, avirex?? because u fail troll?? xddd
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apparantly that would mean i succeeded the troll...
your obviously the failure... all you do is try.
your a smart kid kaleu, you should see fr4nk tries to attack me any chance he can get lately... its just too bad hes not smart enough to come up with anything but "your a gangster who wears a hat"
he should quit while he is ahead, because i have a lifetime of material for him :D
Me and the "Madonna"
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Aauhauhau xdddd
I have the solution for you frank, post a video of you kissing a chick liek a boss if you are not gay, ofcourse. xddddd
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if frank can produce an image of him kissing a female i will personally mute myself from these forums for 1 month.
thats how sure i am he is... well... you know
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Accept this challenge pls.
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Aauhauhau xdddd
I have the solution for you frank, post a video of you kissing a chick liek a boss if you are not gay, ofcourse. xddddd
Theres an avirex parent who can tell us the truth, jajajaja
She's a gangster like him
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Actually WE WANT TO SEE YOU AVIREX, we are in bodybuilding thread, stop talking about your guns, just show yourself.
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He's also on cam4.com, under the nick AV153X, tip for him
ae mofockers!! no work outs, no suppliments, no diets...
just naturally sexy ;D
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WHERE'S UR HAT? And your gang tattoos?
That's the most homo pic I've ever seen lol, not even showing face xDDD
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ae mofockers!! no work outs, no suppliments, no diets...
just naturally sexy ;D
Hahaha, can't even take a pic, it's like 100x100, too scared to show details!?
You are a joke
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lmfao, your so original, all you ever.... EVER...... EVVVEERRRRRR say is im gangster, guns, tattoos.... lmfao
but since you wanna see a pic of me, here ye go.
the only thing you will be able to say is... "wheres your hat" or "your a gangster" or... something equally stupid...
and i will then just reply with a pic of you and a xxDDDDDDDDDD
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You have earring, lier!! WHERE'SE YOUR GHETTO IMPRINT? You must've something to recognize you're from a ghetto.
P.S: keep posting your pics please, you remind me how life is funny.
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You have earring, lier!! WHERE'SE YOUR GHETTO IMPRINT? You must've something to recognize you're from a ghetto.
P.S: keep posting your pics please, you remind me how life is funny.
what has bitten that rage mofo in the ass? fr4nk how old are u? 15?? life is funny and u are pathetic, stop raging on everybody ;D
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Who are you? Some mad guy who I played with? God, you don't need to hate me for games, why do you want to show us how poor you are?
Did avirex and nino call you for some help? Or you just want to contribute to the stupidness of this thread? If so, you are the best that could come.
Welcome.
Ah f@#!s sake, you are in the same community, that explains lol
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Seriously girls, go menstruate somewhere else, this is a thread we made to chat about gym stuff, whoever wants to troll others, or thinks the idea of men posting gym picks of themselves is silly, they have a permission from me to go f@#! themselves.
avi, frank and whoever else is part of this, go find another thread to shit on, thank you very much.
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You all really look like girls auhauauhauh
I would like to wathc you fight, right now!!! like you, GIRLS, are use to do auhauha
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edit: mod could move the discussion to the FoS forum.
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You're right guys, I just had to laugh at avix's pic.
I'll stop now, sorry!!
Avi you can PM me for some erotic games whenever you want.
Back to the topic, where's Wiz? He was a fanatic of this!
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Who are you? Some mad guy who I played with? God, you don't need to hate me for games, why do you want to show us how poor you are?
epic ;D u just made my day
and dont think that i said it because we are in same community,
i said it because u are rage kid and i love to give a lesson of behaviour to rage kids like u, so stop being rage kid and dont call me mad guy coz this is pathetic shit,
u started to rage when u lost that game, u showed how poor you are so like i said stop raging kid ;D i dont hate u but loooks like u hate everybody, some emo problems??
sorry for offtop, heres little present:[/youtube]
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Ah that's giving a lesson then. Surely it doesn't seem to be an English lesson though, but nice try.
Now gtfo please! We are talking about muscles.
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stop offtopics drama kid my respond is in ur inbox...
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check this out muscle maniacs this is hardcore shit ;D watch from 6;30 min
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If you turn off the music it looks pretty stupid. :D
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nice skinny rat pic avi :D
fr4ngo u r like these kids who u slap in the head for fun , and he takes it serious and pass all day long trying to slap you back. HUAHUAHA
id love to slap you ass with a shoot of my pistol but nvm.
back to the topic, wiz is competing in few days in a natural bodybuilder championship, lets hope gl to him ae.
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id love to slap you ass with a shoot of my pistol but nvm.
xDDDDDD. OK STOP!
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hauha ye lets stop.
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frank, you cant keep my name out of ur mouth!!!
judging by you pic, ill bet there is other things you can keep out of your mouth... if u know what i mean....
nino!! im not skinny rat!! i have six pack and toned arms xDDD bahahaha
and no earings... dunno wtf frank is talking about
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So here it is, the update of mine. I'm currently at 79.5kg and 175cm with unknown percentage of fat.
Supplements: Phd Preworkout Formula, and Muscletech protein (standart whey)
Diet: I've mentioned the basic principles and some details about my diet in previous posts, I can provide more info for those interested.
EDIT Click on photos and then press "open in a new tab" to watch them properly
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damn, destroy is abeast!!!
nice work
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That's a nice shape deset. I wouldn't get any bigger than that.
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Woah man. I would so do you!
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Nice work Destroyah!!
You look lean and vascular as hell!
If I had to guess your BF%, I'd say somewhere between 7-9%; unreal.
Fantastic work! Keep it up brotha!
I say up your caloric intake/protein... I think you'd look badass with a little more mass to you. Not much, Maybe just another 2-5kg at most.
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damn, destroy is abeast!!!
nice work
Woah man. I would so do you!
thanks guys :)
That's a nice shape deset. I wouldn't get any bigger than that.
I havent explored my potential yet, I already thought 76kg is fine for me but then suddenly I went to 79+ within a week and it also looked shredded and lean, making no big difference in overall size in clothes. I'll try stick to this weight for a while longer (stuck to 76kg for 2months and got them lean and lost fat+gained muscle to maintain it.) but I have a feeling that as long as I keep on eating like I do and train properly I could look pretty mean even at 85kg without looking ridiculous.
I am very aware there is such a thing as too big so I'll be careful along the way heh.
Nice work Destroyah!!
You look lean and vascular as hell!
If I had to guess your BF%, I'd say somewhere between 7-9%; unreal.
Fantastic work! Keep it up brotha!
I say up your caloric intake/protein... I think you'd look badass with a little more mass to you. Not much, Maybe just another 2-5kg at most.
Thanks man, I'm actually doing that right now, hence the increase in weight, I'm being very careful about where I get my calories from and I think the results are satisfying for sure. I intend to increase my chest size, particularly my upper chest but there are details and details, and I know that this will be just in the fine-tuning process which is slow and I'm not rushing heh.
Thanks for the encouragement all, its tough to be so disciplined with what you eat in Greece with all the tasty food around!
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I am very aware there is such a thing as too big so I'll be careful along the way heh.
The thing is since you yourself get bigger slowly you won't notice. Also bodybuilders reach a point where themselves enjoy their big muscles while they look ridiculously big to people around them. To me that is a perfect shape. I wouldn't change it :)
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I know what you mean!
Love me some saganaki, souvlaki, hummus, tahini, pastichio, mmmmm list goes on.
I have a few greek restaurants in my area that I go to all the time.
My weakness is indian food... loveeee me some indian.
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The thing is since you yourself get bigger slowly you won't notice. Also bodybuilders reach a point where themselves enjoy their big muscles while they look ridiculously big to people around them. To me that is a perfect shape. I wouldn't change it :)
I'm aware of your point, but still, I think I'll find my personal ideal weight.
I know what you mean!
Love me some saganaki, souvlaki, hummus, tahini, pastichio, mmmmm list goes on.
I have a few greek restaurants in my area that I go to all the time.
My weakness is indian food... loveeee me some indian.
haha, this could turn into a what-are-ppl-trying-to-build-their-bodies-not-suppose-to-eat-but-freakin-love so easily :P
On topic: next week I got a week off gym since I completed a cycle of working on building strength, so my body weight will change, I'm curious to see how!
I'll post another update next week on the last day of the week off to see my start off point of the real training that's to follow!
Waiting for other ppl's updates and q's as well!
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Yeah, very impressive work Deset.
I really haven't progressed as much that I can give update pictures yet. I will in a month or two but now I seen those pics I think I need to work a bit harder.
What ab work do you do?
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yea i have a question, what does your cycle look like? stacking/amounts etc
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What ab work do you do?
I only work on my abs 2 times a week, the most common mistake ppl make is to overwork their abs. I simply dont.
4 exercises, 4 sets each, sometimes I super-set them in pairs, I make sure to make them difficult enough so that I cannot physically manage much more than 20 reps. after that I do midsection turns for 5mins to shred the obliques (you dont want large obliques, you'll look too wide, bad for proportions).
I can tell you the exercises if you want as well.
yea i have a question, what does your cycle look like? stacking/amounts etc
I started on 1rst of June weighing at ~72kg of pure fat (2years off any exercise while eating trash :P) and reached the stage I am now in 2+1/2 months.
During that time I started from cyclic training (multiple bodyparts per training session few times a week), to individual bodypart training per day, 5times a week (chest+back, shoulders+abs, arms, legs, abs) and I literally worked week by week on increasing set numbers, increasing rest between sets, increasing weights and progressively decreasing exercises per bodypart so that I reached a single exercise per bodypart, for 7sets, at 90-95% of my 1rep max weight for 3-5reps, and 4+mins rest/set.
The goal was to build my strength mostly. now I have a week off gym completely starting on Monday so that the muscles can grow through rest, and I can finally get into my proper proper, hardcore gym sessions! During the next 4months I'll be working on different exercises per bodypart, changing them every week, switching them around etc so that I keep my body guessing and force the muscles to get denser, if that makes sense.
EDIT Food-wise, things are slightly more complicated, I have a basic protein-grams-per-kg-of-lean-body-mass (weight of body without the percentage of fat. This was done approximately since I didnt actually measure my bodyfat but got it pretty spot on by experience!) and from there on I make sure most of my calories come from protein and fat (yah, fat), rather than carbs. I was off carbs almost completely for 1+1/2months and only then I started to slowly add extremely low amounts of it which I still maintain more-or-less unchanged.
Ofc, there are a few more "secrets" which I guarantee no one who's not heavily into bodybuilding or has friends into the sport would otherwise know and are stupidly important for such quick and decent results such as the ones I had so far but that's another chapter heh.
PS: Ab vascularity rocks :D bonus pic
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ye when i said "cycle" i meant what "secrets" you are taking, cos i know it aint the phd preworkout formula :D
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ye when i said "cycle" i meant what "secrets" you are taking, cos i know it aint the phd preworkout formula :D
Ok, let me make something clear:
I have achieved what I have, using information about how my body reacts to different food and exercise after being a professional swimmer and athlete for 14years, and ofc, f@#!ing hard work and discipline.
I will not participate in any conversation that belittles my hard work by insinuating I take "shortcuts" or f@#!ed up substances of any kind.
Thank you.
PS: obviously I get some comments like this at my local health club by equally ignorant ppl (even by some friends) and I deeply resent them.
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i don't know who you are trying to kid or why you don't want to admit it (does fbi monitor your internet there), but looking at your progress since the last picture, in such a small amount of time, not to mention the massive increase in vasularity that wasn't remotely visible last time...
ye sure you didnt.. so 14 years training and suddenly in the past 2 months you have figured it out and acquired "that look"?
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i don't know who you are trying to kid or why you don't want to admit it (does fbi monitor your internet there), but looking at your progress since the last picture, in such a small amount of time, not to mention the massive increase in vasularity that wasn't remotely visible last time...
ye sure you didnt.. so 14 years training and suddenly in the past 2 months you have figured it out and acquired "that look"?
In no particular order:
1) Do you think the diet for having optimum performance (back when I was swimming) is the same for having optimum looks (doing n atural bodybuilding now) so you compare them?
2) Do you think I had all that knowledge all along or is it possible I acquired it, and in fact still do to this day?
3) Do you think its possible my last progress pics, which were from 3months ago, are simply in the beginning phase (I was out of gym for a year because of an injury) and that now I just reached my peak? Is there such a thing as improving progressively?!
4) Is it possible you know that after the age of 23/24 in men, the body completes its development and that muscles look and are more mature (ie the look better) so this would add to the effect (turned 24 on March)?
5) Please describe your credential/experience in the field of natural bodybuilding that allows you to "not be fooled" by a kid like me with only so many years in the field of sports and nutrition! I bet it'll be like "I have gone to the gym many times and I've heard many things even more times, enough to make me prejudiced and/or opinionated about things I have little/no understanding about!"
*GASPS*
omg...I just woke up from a nightmare! I saw that I was in a parallel universe in which I had to explain to a total nobody why I look far better than his knowledge allow him to understand but he's at the same time small-minded and self-righteous enough to think he's right and he has to call me out on something he has no idea about!
Scary stuff I tell ya!
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ok so being 24 makes me even more suspicious and claiming its all in 3 months. tren? if you were 30 and had been training for 10 years hard core then maybe i could accept it. anyway i'm not trying to knock the hard work an dedication u put into it but please pull the other one mate (it means pull the other leg, i.e. stop joking).
Ofc, there are a few more "secrets" which I guarantee no one who's not heavily into bodybuilding or has friends into the sport would otherwise know and are stupidly important for such quick and decent results such as the ones I had so far but that's another chapter heh.
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ae some pics.
sorry for the quality but taking pics alone sucks lol.
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your arms have gotten much bigger, gj ae king
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n ass xDDD
nice strong arms nino
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haha thanks guys.
and about big ass.. hmmm ya thats what happens when u squat a lot to get strong legs.. your ass grows too, girls are loving my big ass tbh xDDDD
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ok so being 24 makes me even more suspicious and claiming its all in 3 months. tren? if you were 30 and had been training for 10 years hard core then maybe i could accept it. anyway i'm not trying to knock the hard work an dedication u put into it but please pull the other one mate (it means pull the other leg, i.e. stop joking).
Ofc, there are a few more "secrets" which I guarantee no one who's not heavily into bodybuilding or has friends into the sport would otherwise know and are stupidly important for such quick and decent results such as the ones I had so far but that's another chapter heh.
You continue making a fool of yourself dude. You have obviously never got into serious bodybuilding, hence the inability to possibly assess my work, I cannot argue/converse with someone who's clearly not in any position to actually discuss, process and know any of the things I'm doing, "sorry".
The "secrets" I was talking about are actually "info nuggets", or "golden nuggets" of freakin knowledge dude, advanced things that ppl who arent in the trade (ie ppl who simply go to the gym, even for years without actually achieving anything - feel free to add yourself in that category), cant possibly know, so there you have it.
You can go on believing others take drugs simply because you lack the facility of openess to understanding and not judging straight away with false information acquired god-knows-where, and being damned to never see any real progress in the gym/on your body - all that assuming you even exercise, or have ever been involved with any high-level natural bodybuilder at all.
PS: Gj nino but I cannot see any details with these pics :/
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ok dest.. maybe you could enlighten us as to some of these natural secrets
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ok dest.. maybe you could enlighten us as to some of these natural secrets
I'll entertain myself by taking your question as an honest one and replying to it.
I'll only divulge one and analyse it enough to make it understood.
Tip: After training (gym sessions in this "sport"), consume approximately 0.8grams of sugar per kg or lean body mass ( {body weight} - {body weight x fat percentage} ) before drinking your protein shake or take your protein meal. Btw, the meal after the gym should take place within half an hour from the end of the gym session.
Reason: after intense muscular exercise the body's glucose has been depleted and the body goes into catabolism (essentially muscles eating themselves so that they heal. a paradox but that's how the body works if left to act without sugar after exercise/work). Sugar acts as a catalyst in stopping this procedure whilst spiking insulin and provoking fat burn after your training session.
I consume 50g of sugar after gym in the form of either gummy bears (25 of those f@#!ers give enough sugar without many calories) or sesame bars (which I'm eating now in order to build mass. Note that sesame bars give around 1000+ calories in order to provide the needed sugar so I've turned my post-workout meal into a proper meal in this way).
The reason this is such a huge revelation to many is because sugar is considered a bad thing when talking about leaning down, or even when bulking up. Well, it isnt if used at the right moment in the correct form (not from syrup pancakes for example) and in the correct amount.
You can thank me when you've used it and seen the difference.
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it was an honest question
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To be honest, I think that's pretty commonly known; at least within the United States gym community.
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nino :D
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xD.
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To be honest, I think that's pretty commonly known; at least within the United States gym community.
well it was a revelation for me, and I found out only relatively recently, so yeh.
Still, I think the metabolism and the body frame I created through my years in swimming have provided an excellent jumping board for fitness competitions.
I'm planning on going for natural bodybuilding contests at around winter time, after the holidays or something
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I'll take some photos on weekend, then I'll post something more about supplements etc. xd
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Last week was my week off gym, total relaxation of muscle and mind, I also ate like a pig xd
On my last pics I was on 79kg, right now I'm on ~83kg which now needs to be leaned down!
I'll be posting some pics with the final result after my first week of the serious training.
note: this week has 70-75% of 1rep max, 10-15reps per set, 3-4 sets per exercise, 4 exercises per muscle group, 60-120sec rest between sets and last set to failure, its f@#!ing tiring I can tell you that! first day today was 2h30mins, including abs workout and 25min cardio.. I couldnt lift my bottle of water in the gym after the workout!
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Well, Destroyah might not be, but im going on the gear in about a month. I'll let you guys know how my cycle goes. Ill be taking test and dbol for 10-12 weeks, havent decided yet.
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Well, Destroyah might not be, but im going on the gear in about a month. I'll let you guys know how my cycle goes. Ill be taking test and dbol for 10-12 weeks, havent decided yet.
hope you recover soon man.
I got a f@#!ed up throat infection and I missed today's training, I'm planing on doing it tomorrow even though thats not too clever but f@#! it, 2 days of rest afterwards, just wanna finish my sessions for the week.
I'll be posting pics after tomorrow's session hopefully, I managed to stay on 83kg throughout this week (hence maintaining my gain) whilst leaning it down a bit, despite the 40degrees we have here which makes training, eating and dieting freakin hard!
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So here they are!
This is me right now, at 6am, should've been in bed but remembered about the pic update I forgot heh.
I'm 82kg atm and going down slightly despite my sincerest efforts to stabilise and lean down, I hope 82kg will stick more than 83 did heh.
I'm obviously less lean than in last bunch of pics but clearly bulkier and I feel stronger and with more stamina than ever before in the gym atm.
Also, I started working on my poses but it'll take time for that to be perfected/improved and I need someone to take pics of me which isnt as easy as it sounds always heh.
Feel free to comment.
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Very impressed man. Jealous.
I'm totally out of sync with my training. Comfort of a relationship has made me totally lazy and lose focus. Focused on something but not training :<<<
Good luck man and keep up the great work.
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Focused on something but not training :<<<
Hah, I'll just say this: last night we had a break with my gf and used the time to go to the kitchen and eat my meal xd
*wink wink*
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I tell ya. The comfort of a relationship totally kills my motivation. I'm dragging myself into my garage several times a week for a weight session but the intensity is not as good as it was. I'm still doing one 7 mile run a week, my usual Tuesday night run. So about 1 hour of cardio a week :/
If I keep going this way I'll be putting on the weight again soon. I've put 4 pounds on in about 2 months which really isn't too bad considering the increased intake of alcohol and yummy restaurant food. I guess I'm doing just about enough.
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hehe, food has always been the thorn on any kind of athletes' side! Its one of the few earthly pleasures that never lets you down or fails to give you health issues xd
I was a proper trooper for 3months, now my dedication has faded slightly, this summer we've had a 2-month heat-wave with breaks for 4days inbetween only, its really wearing me down, give me some winter to train my ass off damnit!
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Feel free to comment.
How tall are you dude?
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Feel free to comment.
How tall are you dude?
175cm average to short felah heh, why?
PS: awesome sign btw, lol Cue xd
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Feel free to comment.
How tall are you dude?
175cm average to short felah heh, why?
PS: awesome sign btw, lol Cue xd
Dunno, it surprised me you were only on 82kg, looked like close to 90, even if you're 175 cm
maybe it's the pics
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Feel free to comment.
How tall are you dude?
175cm average to short felah heh, why?
PS: awesome sign btw, lol Cue xd
Dunno, it surprised me you were only on 82kg, looked like close to 90, even if you're 175 cm
maybe it's the pics
Not sure why you see it like this tbh, I'm in fact slightly below 82 now I think, such a struggle to keep all this weight on me with the heat we're facing over here, water evaporates and muscles are dry as shit atm.
I'll post a pic tonight of full body in a pose so that maybe you can get a better idea of the proportions.
If my facts are right, I'll take on another 3-4kg as soon as cold weather starts, for no other reason other than the change in temperature...God help me but MI was surely right, I'll need to take on a lot of weight and then slowly pick my spot where I'll decide to stay permanently cause for now, as soon as I lean down some weight, I just wanna go higher "just to see what happens."
Nonetheless, I consider this stage I am atm, very premature and the weight I got on me now needs 2good months of training to show its full potential, so I'll be keeping a pic diary here since I'm in unexplored territory for me now, afa my body is concerned I mean.
PS: oh, and I always had big legs, maybe that makes you think that, good genes I guess :)
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Well, im starting a cycle of clenbuterol and T3 to get down in bf% so i can do my AAS cycle. Going 3 weeks on to try and get down to the 15-16% range. I'm at 21% now, wish me luck people! I'm going to be doing a lot of P90x and insanity to get the weight down. I'm currently at 195 lbs/89 kg at 6'3"/190cm. I have a journal going on another site, ill also post some pictures and results here.
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Well, im starting a cycle of clenbuterol and T3 to get down in bf% so i can do my AAS cycle. Going 3 weeks on to try and get down to the 15-16% range. I'm at 21% now, wish me luck people! I'm going to be doing a lot of P90x and insanity to get the weight down. I'm currently at 195 lbs/89 kg at 6'3"/190cm. I have a journal going on another site, ill also post some pictures and results here.
Gl bro, think positive and it'll happen in no time :)
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Put on some mass over winter...
Cut out all supplement other than protein powder.
Now i've been doing cardio again to try to lean up a bit.
From today
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gj, what kind of cardio & diet will you do? : )
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Any advise for beginners? I don't want to put on too much mass but want to be fitter, lean/toned and increase my staminia and strength for when I go on skiing holidays.
My current lifesytle is that I rarely eat junk food but do eat unhealthy meals, although mainly red meat and carbs. I drink heavily, excersise doesn't happen often as drive to work and sit in an office all day behind a desk.
Currently I try and do 3 sets of 15 reps of sit ups and push ups a day, plus 2 sets of 25 reps on super light dumbells on biceps. I try to do 2 or 3, 2.5 mile jogs a week.
Im 5'9 and weigh around 10'10 last time i checked!
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Any advise for beginners? I don't want to put on too much mass but want to be fitter, lean/toned and increase my staminia and strength for when I go on skiing holidays.
My current lifesytle is that I rarely eat junk food but do eat unhealthy meals, although mainly red meat and carbs. I drink heavily, excersise doesn't happen often as drive to work and sit in an office all day behind a desk.
Currently I try and do 3 sets of 15 reps of sit ups and push ups a day, plus 2 sets of 25 reps on super light dumbells on biceps. I try to do 2 or 3, 2.5 mile jogs a week.
Im 5'9 and weigh around 10'10 last time i checked!
What's ur BF%? There are some calculator based on some measures of your body (neck, waist circumferences, height, weight, gender, age) that give you an approx. %. Don't use those electronic stuff, only calipers works ok.
IMHO...
- change the jogs with some kind of HIIT like sprints (Google what's HIiT), increasing progressively the number of intervals, and decreasing the time of rest.
- increase your protein intake pre and post workout, I'm sure that you are not eating at least 1,5g of protein per Kg of body mass, that's the minimum.
- don't be afraid to get too big, it takes years (and lot of foods and working out with resp bewteen 1 to 12, never with 15-25 like you are doing)
- Try to do some close grip pull ups and forget those dumbbell curls. (remember that you have Back too, not only biceps)
- try to avoid eating fat+carbs together, you can eat fat+protein, carbs+protein, or fats, proteins and carbs alone, but never carbs+fat together.
- fruits in the morning are ok, you don't want to eat saccharose/glucose at night.
- more water, cold
- you can eat a "cheat meal" once a week if you are ectomorph, or maybe 2 per month in other case (meso, endomoprh)
- try to eat brown rice instead white, brown paste instead rice, oatmeal is tha shit
- In case you become to get too big, stop doing all this ;D it's a joke... look this:
(I'll put the links only, there's no Spoiler tag in this forum ;(
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O8FqxBmlfLA/T-pVj5etkbI/AAAAAAAABEQ/YQMD_8h0hRU/s640/don't++want+to+get+big.jpg
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/18377498.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FvZfQ.jpg
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/26564160.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/993052_10152895650030215_941760004_n.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m97kf8thcL1r5ib4vo1_1280.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/294967_632916580071109_391457694_n.jpg
All the shit that I said is relative as f@#!, all depends on your type of diet, your kind of body, experience, there's no one formula, but this hints can be helpful to start.
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tip from the king tom.
just start to lift and then if u like it, u gonna learn by the time what to eat and what to do to get best results ae.
just move ur ass puto.
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I agree with Nino..
You're first starting to get in to it..
Start off easy and light.
Simply go on bodybuilding.com, check out exercises, and start with the basics.
Curls
Bench Press
Incline Bench Press
Lat Pull Downs
Seated Rows
Kickbacks
Rope Pulldowns
Shrugs.
Once you get into the hang, and start getting addicted.. Move on to more intermediate lifts...
I wouldn't do any squatting, lunges, or deadlifts until you're comfortable with intermediate lifts and ready to move on to more advanced.
Diet is absolutely the most important part. 80% of your body is made in the kitchen.
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hola hola culiaos!
just wanted to drop a pick of my progress ! ive been doing lifting for 6 months, ive not gained much mass but the weight ive gained it's been waay clean
the picks are from the first month and some weeks (left photo) until the 6th month(right photo, im doing an stop, kinda bussy and some troubles (pain) with my forearm and shoulder)
i have to tx twyrfher for his help, he has helped me A LOT (not to say the only one, but almost :P) and i hope he can keep helping me
there u go (free)
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nice xperia S
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its not S but U
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its my photo after 10 month workout - i been very small guy... b4 i dont know even weight : < but i now my weitght is 70 kg and i looks like that
for that looking i didnt use anything from 3 mothns i have diet ...
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you must not have worked out too hard in those 10 months...
either that or you have shitty genes....
not saying its bad results, its just not great, for 10 months... keep at it tho!!
i cant say much, i been slacking on fitness!
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well first month i didnt do even 5 pull ups ... lo .. and i didnt been in gym i did it alone without nothing just i do it for myslef and no1 help me in it
JUST NO GYM NO STEROIDS NOTHING xD
3 moths with diet and good workout plan...
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well first month i didnt do even 5 pull ups ... lo .. and i didnt been in gym i did it alone without nothing just i do it for myslef and no1 help me in it
JUST NO GYM NO STEROIDS NOTHING xD
3 moths with diet and good workout plan...
So your just doing pull ups and pushups? Thats why you have so little progress. You need to weight train.
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looking good cinek, keep up the good work
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Gj Cinek, keep working out hard, but if you have been hardcore at wo's, then try to be hardcore at kitchen aswell. Don't skip leg day :D
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im street workout dude no gym never gym xD i wanna do hutman flag i think i need 3 weeks and i will do it ~5 sec for sure
and i dont need looks very big i can looks like right now ... ;p i wanna have more power nothing more
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What you have achived is great, now you should just keep your form. I mean, you don't need more of what you have now
You've motivated me eheh :)
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keep going Cinek :)
i am after 3 month of hard and intense workout on my own gym + good diet; gonna keep doing this till end of this year !!
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oh man I only got the motivation to go gym 4 days in week but my diet is as good as shit
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well first month i didnt do even 5 pull ups ... lo .. and i didnt been in gym i did it alone without nothing just i do it for myslef and no1 help me in it
JUST NO GYM NO STEROIDS NOTHING xD
3 moths with diet and good workout plan...
So your just doing pull ups and pushups? Thats why you have so little progress. You need to weight train.
Look this Street workout site http://www.madbarz.com/all-routines (http://www.madbarz.com/all-routines) ... i dont need any stupid machines for get more stronger :D
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well first month i didnt do even 5 pull ups ... lo .. and i didnt been in gym i did it alone without nothing just i do it for myslef and no1 help me in it
JUST NO GYM NO STEROIDS NOTHING xD
3 moths with diet and good workout plan...
So your just doing pull ups and pushups? Thats why you have so little progress. You need to weight train.
Look this Street workout site http://www.madbarz.com/all-routines (http://www.madbarz.com/all-routines) ... i dont need any stupid machines for get more stronger :D
Not machines, but in a few months you'll need more WEIGHT than you body weight if you want to gain more strength.
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Not machines, but in a few months you'll need more WEIGHT than you body weight if you want to gain more strength.
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DUDE :D many exercise i have and easy and hard no need any weight ... look in YT Planche or clap pull ups
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Alright ^^ just trying to help. Keep it up mate :)
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also cinek, at some point u will need more than ur own body weight for dips for example
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I usually use beer, pizza and sex to increase my muscles
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Cinek, the rule has always been only one, before and forever:
NO PAIN, NO GAIN.
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i know about that no pain no gain xd
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I usually use beer, pizza and sex to increase my muscles
Yea, lately I grew some nice muscles on my abdomen with pasta and beer, but something's wrong, I can't tense.. :/ any suggestions? I suspect it's the 12% fat sour cream, maybe I should stick with the 20%.
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u said at some point my weight will be not engouh but i say no ... I still have progress in workout becouse i do Dynamic power :) my new photos
Btw. I Do Muscle ups , Hutman flag , One Arm pull ups , explosive dips (Almost 180*) Trucked planche and i going to Staddle planche and bent arm.:)
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very nice m8
yeah my post was dumb, it was towarded to u but the context content was for the regular guy who goes to gym, obviously u have ur own stuff and u know 1000% more about them than I do...
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yes, but eat more boy
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I Trying :D i eat evrytime fresh food but... its hard :D
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I Trying :D i eat evrytime fresh food but... its hard :D
Go fasting for a week (no food but water). You need to desensitize yourself to unhealthy food.
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Ive been using cocaine for weight loss easier than cardio