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Other Things => Off Topic => Topic started by: Ray on May 04, 2011, 06:42 AM
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As the title says... I had enough. Expensive, makes me slow, makes my breath smell like ass. Let's see how long I'll last. Bye bye all time favorit red Marlboro! :'(
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Good luck man, it's hard to give up, i've never tried, cuz to put it simply I absolutely love smoking, I have been thinking about giving up cuz my fav brand Richmond Kingsize has went above £6 now, which is pathetic, I remember buying 20 l&b's for like £3, 10 l&b was like £1.50 when I 1st started...
I love smoking but I just feel like such a c@#! paying so much to the f@#!ing selfish goverment when they don't even cost 2p a packet to make...
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Yes, that's true.
To be honest, I love smoking too, it's a great feeling. But I also feel that it makes me less energetic, less healthy every day. I play football also and recently, I realized that I cannot run! I can't!!! So it was enough for me. :(
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well gl ray if u really want it.
some years ago i stopped smokin for same reasons, but after the energy come back to the body and half an year i started smokin again. cause the reasons to stop just disappeared.
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Ey good luck man. :)
It's my 4th day without ciggs, yesterday was probably the hardest one, but every hour that passes by without me smoking, I'll applaud myself about it to keep positive momentum going.
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i love smoking too, and price isnot problem here in brazil xD like $2 -3
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i love smoking too, and price isnot problem here in brazil xD like $2 -3
Seriously, I think i'm gonna immigrate someday, I am starting to really f@#!ing hate the UK...
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good luck mate, and if you succeed well done, i managed to quit smoking weed for myself andm y daughter, but still like smoking ciggies, so wont quit them yet.
Komo: irememeber when i first started, 10 richmonds were like £2:20 or something, and now im lucky to get 10 L&B for under £3, ridiculous government.
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hospital bill is a couple of thousand, I suppose :o
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hospital bill is a couple of thousand, I suppose :o
If I get cancer doing something I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really enjoy, i'll happily avoid Hospital and die happily, seriously.
Some humans are born and don't even live one day, I feel lucky and happy enough to have lived what I have lived so far, anything beyond this no matter what I can't complain.
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ye agree with komo, thats true noone wants to die, but i love smoking too and np pay the price of die early ( maybe) cos of that, everyone has to die anyway and some peoples who dont smoke, dont drink and stuff..gets a car crash and GG.
About Drinking, i drink too, but i dont care for drinking, i can quit this easy. drinking for me is w/e ae.
if i quit smoking, i think ill quit playing worms too, cant imagine playing an elite without light a cig, seriously .
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I'm starting to cry because of the lack of Marlboro... First day even and I'm starting to give up. :-X
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if i quit smoking, i think ill quit playing worms too, cant imagine playing an elite without light a cig, seriously
Ah yea, BnG, Team17 and Elite have the requirment of smoking. :)
Ehh, sorry for the double post. :-[
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team 17 ok but the others got pretty low turntime, so u always need to lay your cigarattes away for playin (stessy) or keep em in mouth (hf with the eyes)
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I have never smoked and I'll try to never start
GL Ray ;)
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i tried to quit smokin like 100 or more times but eventually i did it!!! aint impossible but very hard indeed, the only advice i can give: dont think that u must quit or u have to do it or else coz u`ll get more stressed and pressured, u must start thinking that u dont need to smoke that shit at all coz it makes u smell like dogshit dont even mention about odour from your nasty smokin mouth ehehe and makes u more unhealthy lazy fatass ayee
most irrational thing about smokes is that they dont give u any high at all but they are 1 of the most addicting shit, and i find most funny when smokers say that it makes them relaxed. BIGGEST BULLSHIT EVER HEARD!!!!! it only makes u relaxed coz ur ass gets more tense when u cant smoke
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i tried to quit smokin like 100 or more times but eventually i did it!!! aint impossible but very hard indeed, the only advice i can give: dont think that u must quit or u have to do it or else coz u`ll get more stressed and pressured, u must start thinking that u dont need to smoke that shit at all coz it makes u smell like dogshit dont even mention about odour from your nasty smokin mouth ehehe and makes u more unhealthy lazy fatass ayee
most irrational thing about smokes is that they dont give u any high at all but they are 1 of the most addicting shit, and i find most funny when smokers say that it makes them relaxed. BIGGEST BULLSHIT EVER HEARD!!!!! it only makes u relaxed coz ur ass gets more tense when u cant smoke
exactly.
i quit 20 days ago and i don't feel the will to smoke again. I feel so f@#!ing good now: i taste better food, i can run more, my cock is more hard in less time and i feel f@#!ing powerful. i'm less tired during work and stuff..
just be a man and don't smoke again, ray.
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i tried to quit smokin like 100 or more times but eventually i did it!!! aint impossible but very hard indeed, the only advice i can give: dont think that u must quit or u have to do it or else coz u`ll get more stressed and pressured, u must start thinking that u dont need to smoke that shit at all coz it makes u smell like dogshit dont even mention about odour from your nasty smokin mouth ehehe and makes u more unhealthy lazy fatass ayee
most irrational thing about smokes is that they dont give u any high at all but they are 1 of the most addicting shit, and i find most funny when smokers say that it makes them relaxed. BIGGEST BULLSHIT EVER HEARD!!!!! it only makes u relaxed coz ur ass gets more tense when u cant smoke
exactly.
i quit 20 days ago and i don't feel the will to smoke again. I feel so f@#!ing good now: i taste better food, i can run more, my cock is more hard in less time and i feel f@#!ing powerful. i'm less tired during work and stuff..
just be a man and don't smoke again, ray.
Will my pussy get harder?!?!
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i smoked during 6 years and i stopped since almost 7 years !
The 1st months are f@#!ing horrible !! i started to be also inactive on worms coz cigarettes lol i was smoking between 10 to 15 cigs during worms lol so when i stopped everytime i was playing worms i was like omg i need a f@#!ing cig lol
But one thing which motivated me was the money !!! i bought a car 2 months after i stopped to smoke so all the money i wasnt using for cig was used to payback my car !
But even 7 years later i still want to smoke sometimes, i even buy cigar sometimes but very rarely like once a year
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hospital bill is a couple of thousand, I suppose :o
If I get cancer doing something I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really enjoy, i'll happily avoid Hospital and die happily, seriously.
Some humans are born and don't even live one day, I feel lucky and happy enough to have lived what I have lived so far, anything beyond this no matter what I can't complain.
And what about all those non-smokers who die just because they've been breathing the same air as which smokers released all that huge amount of carbon monoxide, nicotine, lead and all other toxic shit into? No offense, but they might have wanted to live...
Edit: I really wish you good luck, Ray!
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hospital bill is a couple of thousand, I suppose :o
If I get cancer doing something I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really enjoy, i'll happily avoid Hospital and die happily, seriously.
Some humans are born and don't even live one day, I feel lucky and happy enough to have lived what I have lived so far, anything beyond this no matter what I can't complain.
And what about all those non-smokers who die just because they've been breathing the same air as which smokers released all that huge amount of carbon monoxide, nicotine, lead and all other toxic shit into? No offense, but they might have wanted to live...
Edit: I really wish you good luck, Ray!
good point, but have u even thought about fight with goverment or even the whole world cos of the f@#!ed air we breath nowadays in this world?
best way should be carverman forever xDDDD
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hospital bill is a couple of thousand, I suppose :o
If I get cancer doing something I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really enjoy, i'll happily avoid Hospital and die happily, seriously.
Some humans are born and don't even live one day, I feel lucky and happy enough to have lived what I have lived so far, anything beyond this no matter what I can't complain.
And what about all those non-smokers who die just because they've been breathing the same air as which smokers released all that huge amount of carbon monoxide, nicotine, lead and all other toxic shit into? No offense, but they might have wanted to live...
Edit: I really wish you good luck, Ray!
good point, but have u even thought about fight with goverment or even the whole world cos of the f@#!ed air we breath nowadays in this world?
best way should be carverman forever xDDDD
Nope, and I don't really think there's much I can do about it. I try to talk as many people as I can off of smoking, but there will always be more idiots. And even if smoking was banned, it wouldn't take two hours for a black market of tobacco products to develop - just look at all these drug dealers nowadays, lol...
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i dont smoke near peoples who i know dont like it, unless iam at home xD , but i respect people who dont like it, and when iam in a open area or something..if u dont like smoking? GO TO f@#! OFF away from me.
peoples has the right to do what they want, it doesnot matter if it is smoking or putting a 30CM cock in the ass.
calling peoples who like smoke idiots, make u idiot too.
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I have never smoked on regular basis [; bl ae
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I didn't call every smoker an idiot, I call every smoker *who doesn't give a sh*t about other people's health" an idiot. Everybody has the right to do what they want - until the point when it's threating my f*cking life! No, I won't take kindly to that. Smoking's effect does not stop in the immediate 2-3 m area of the smoker, the toxins go a little further - that said, everywhere. Besides, I f*cking hate when I'm at a bus stop waiting for a bus to turn up, it's raining, there's 20-30 people under a shelter with the size of about 10 square meters... And some puto/a suddenly feels like he/she must smoke at the f@#!ing moment, making x-1 people suffer from the smell of that crap he's smoking, or I can choose to stand out in the goddamned rain to get soaked to the skin - how nice. And that 30cm cock is fine until it becomes a "cool" thing to do - fortunately, in the eyes of most people it's still a retarded and unnatural thing to do. God gave you that hole to sh*t, not to shove up stuff in it...
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I didn't call every smoker an idiot, I call every smoker *who doesn't give a sh*t about other people's health" an idiot. Everybody has the right to do what they want - until the point when it's threating my f*cking life! No, I won't take kindly to that. Smoking's effect does not stop in the immediate 2-3 m area of the smoker, the toxins go a little further - that said, everywhere. Besides, I f*cking hate when I'm at a bus stop waiting for a bus to turn up, it's raining, there's 20-30 people under a shelter with the size of about 10 square meters... And some puto/a suddenly feels like he/she must smoke at the f@#!ing moment, making x-1 people suffer from the smell of that crap he's smoking, or I can choose to stand out in the goddamned rain to get soaked to the skin - how nice. And that 30cm cock is fine until it becomes a "cool" thing to do - fortunately, in the eyes of most people it's still a retarded and unnatural thing to do. God gave you that hole to sh*t, not to shove up stuff in it...
i guess the world is becoming a real paradise when we are able to focus on such trivial topics like the effect of passive smoking
next time when im gonna smoke a cigarette on a busstop i imagine how the people sourrounding me are going to die. t, now i know im a murder.
well i really understand ur point that ur feeling annoyed in this situations, but chill down dude lol
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I'm chilled. I know it's hard, but sometimes people should think about others too...
Sorry if I went nuts.
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that bus parade was a cool exemple, id not smoke among then..i could go to rain with my umbrela and light my cigarret, but some peoples are just afff u r smoking so far and they even complain lol and lmfao @ god gave u the ass to shit.
cos lmfao @ god xD
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hehe tbh i would stay in rain anyway cause i dont like to be such crowded. but let me think, if there are 20 nice girls in the bus stop shelter.
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Well, I recall reading somewhere a couple of hundreds a year supposedly get sick because of passive smoking, but tbh, that's so hard to reliably research that I'm not taking much stock with it.
There are, however, a lot of people with asthma, which is known not to respond very well with cigarette smoke.
Giving the example of young people dying cause of car accidents is just deflecting. I've met a few people younger than 40 with a massive heart attack or destroyed lungs, requiring oxygen at home. Same kinds of exceptions, but the numbers don't lie. All I can say is it's better to stop smoking, for more reasons than is generally known.
But you gotta do what you gotta do, right?
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ye my hero, u r right, cigarrets f@#! up with u, thats a fact.
what i meant with the car accident was everything can happen in this life, of course smoking can make it easier to u get a cancer or something, but for who really enjoy that, thats worth.
btw drinking is much more agressive than smoking, imagine someone who drink everyday like smokers? this person is f@#!ed up lol. and i dont mean 50ml of wine in dinner, i mean drink for real. like 10 beers a day.
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ye my hero, u r right, cigarrets f@#! up with u, thats a fact.
what i meant with the car accident was everything can happen in this life, of course smoking can make it easier to u get a cancer or something, but for who really enjoy that, thats worth.
btw drinking is much more agressive than smoking, imagine someone who drink everyday like smokers? this person is f@#!ed up lol. and i dont mean 50ml of wine in dinner, i mean drink for real. like 10 beers a day.
oyy i know a guy, 1 time he bought 3x 0,20 ml of vodka and 0.33 ml can of pepsi, after 20 mins vodka glasses were empty and the pepsi can was almost full and it was a morning warm up hehe
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what i meant with the car accident was everything can happen in this life, of course smoking can make it easier to u get a cancer or something, but for who really enjoy that, thats worth.
I used to say that and believe in that when I used to smoke. But then I saw some of my relatives getting tortured by cancer pain, biting their pillow from the pain from day to night. I don't know what I believe now. :)
But hey, maybe I could try telling them when biting their pillow "If you really enjoyed, then it's OK" and see if it helps?
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that bus parade was a cool exemple, id not smoke among then..i could go to rain with my umbrela and light my cigarret, but some peoples are just afff u r smoking so far and they even complain lol and lmfao @ god gave u the ass to shit.
cos lmfao @ god xD
Fair point. You are God. Thanks for the ass :)
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hospital bill is a couple of thousand, I suppose :o
If I get cancer doing something I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really enjoy, i'll happily avoid Hospital and die happily, seriously.
Some humans are born and don't even live one day, I feel lucky and happy enough to have lived what I have lived so far, anything beyond this no matter what I can't complain.
And what about all those non-smokers who die just because they've been breathing the same air as which smokers released all that huge amount of carbon monoxide, nicotine, lead and all other toxic shit into? No offense, but they might have wanted to live...
Just wanna point out before I begin, I just lit a cig :)
What about all those non-smokers who hurt innocent people?
What about all those non-smokers who take other drugs?
What about all those non-smokers who are criminals/murderers/pedophiles/thiefs/etc and make others suffer even worse than 2nd hand smoke EVER could do?
What about all those non-smokers who do ALOT more damage to the world who drive due to pollution? (I don't drive by the way)
What about all those non-smokers who have evil secret hobbies?
What about all those non-smokers who look down on hard working, tax paying, very kind people who do anything to help someone else?
What about all those non-smokers who die for (I am guessing) at least 99% other reasons than 2nd hand smoke?
What about all those non-smokers who create other bad toxins?
What about all those non-smokers who don't smoke, but are alcoholics instead?
What about all those non-smokers who illegally download music/games/software and other media content?
What about all those non-smokers who just simply don't give a f@#! about anyone else?
I don't smoke around people I know don't like smoke, please don't assume I don't know about 2nd hand smoke and I don't care about others, I am only 25 years old I may sit and play WA alot in the last year, but i've done alot of very good and kind things in my life, and done alot of favours for people I didn't have to do, i've even saved a strangers life when I could have kept walking.
Most people I know, who smoke, are very hard working class people and will hold that door open for the person behind them, or help that old lady across the road.
Smoking isn't as bad as people make it out to be, yes it can kill, but so many things can kill, smoking doesn't hurt people as much as literally millions of other unexplained mysterious "accidents" and natural ways of life does, to me it's a luxury I am glad and thankful to have.
Ray, stick in there mate!
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"What about all those non-smokers who hurt innocent people?"
It's very unlikely that it affects 6,5 billion people. Nevertheless, it's a bad thing, and I never said only smokers hurt people, I'm just saying it barely has any positive effects, it's expensive, it stinks, and so on... all explained in this topic. And it would be completely avoidable if people wouldn't want to smoke whenever they can.
"What about all those non-smokers who take other drugs?"
Except for a few (MJ for example), they have no global effect. They break down in the body of the user in a relatively small time. Some are even useful as last resort painkillers.
"What about all those non-smokers who are criminals/murderers/pedophiles/thiefs/etc and make others suffer even worse than 2nd hand smoke EVER could do?"
Tell me that there's anything worse than dying a slow and painful death screaming for air. Please. Okay, maybe there are worse things, like getting raped or - Nino forbid - losing your life's work in a natural disaster (or some idiots burning your house down), but it's completely different, in that case, you can't stop people suffering just by quitting a habit.
"What about all those non-smokers who do ALOT more damage to the world who drive due to pollution? (I don't drive by the way)"
Neither do I (I'm 16 ffs, how could I honestly drive? XD), but after all, everything causes pollution (even using the computer - requires electricity - power plants - carbon/petrolium, and there you have CO2, SO2, nitrous oxides, methane, all kinds of toxic shit also causing global warming), so it's a fair point, but also inevitable.
"What about all those non-smokers who have evil secret hobbies?"
Hmm... Could you please explain this one?
"What about all those non-smokers who look down on hard working, tax paying, very kind people who do anything to help someone else?"
There's plenty of them, and I really hate them too... But you can't kill someone for his/her behaviour until it threatens the community, and they usually ultimately reach that point. I've known a lot of people like this, and I try to avoid them - but once again, they're not technically killing anyone, they're just idiots and parasites.
"What about all those non-smokers who die for (I am guessing) at least 99% other reasons than 2nd hand smoke?"
Smoke's toxins kill slowly, so one can never know how much these chemicals had to do with that person's death.
"What about all those non-smokers who create other bad toxins?"
If it's unnecessary, they should stop (or at least moderate) what they're doing, too.
"What about all those non-smokers who don't smoke, but are alcoholics instead?"
Again, until the point they hurt other people, it's fine. It's up to you what you do with your body, your soul... and your life in general - but do not trifle with other people's lives. Besides, you drink heavily, too, don't you?
"What about all those non-smokers who illegally download music/games/software and other media content?"
I wouldn't even call them thieves. They just want some entertainment without having to starve - e.g. a better game in Hungary still costs about 1/12 of an average salary of a hard-working white collar worker - about 1/6 of a blue collar worker. Now is that fair?! Media sales are high enough even with piracy at its peak - imagine how rich those companies would get if everyone had bought what they've made.
"What about all those non-smokers who just simply don't give a f@#! about anyone else?"
They're called assholes, and they will be judged in the end, don't worry.
Believe me, I know what it's like to live with a smoker - my father smoked for over 25 years (I was 13 when he finally stopped it), but it looks like it was a bit too late... He literally has no intact organs now. That's why I argue so hard against smoking - but these are my last words in this topic, it seems pretty pointless to try to convince a heavy smoker not to smoke.
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Everyone will start quitting when it's time. But smoking/drinking is a need for humans. It always have been.
Say if they ban smoking/drinking and remove all cigarettes and alcohol from the earth, many people will start looking for alternative, smoking/drinking new stuff to get the same effect.
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Smoking isn't as bad as people make it out to be, yes it can kill, but so many things can kill, smoking doesn't hurt people as much as literally millions of other unexplained mysterious "accidents" and natural ways of life does, to me it's a luxury I am glad and thankful to have.
Alright, I'm gonna have to go with "ROFL" here.
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Smoking isn't as bad as people make it out to be, yes it can kill, but so many things can kill, smoking doesn't hurt people as much as literally millions of other unexplained mysterious "accidents" and natural ways of life does, to me it's a luxury I am glad and thankful to have.
Alright, I'm gonna have to go with "ROFL" here.
How many people die from smoke(cigarettes)? How many people die from every other single thing possible, I laugh at you my friend ;)
What I meant was, mysterious accidents like, freek accidents and things people science or religion just can't explain.
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Oh gosh stop it. ;D I'm simply trying to quit smoking, not trying to start a mass debate about smoking. CMV, chill man! I hate those people who endlessly bitch about smokers, be a man and inhale it, all those legends about second-hand smoking, that it gives you cancer and makes your life shorter is BULLSHIT! It's just as likely as a meteor hitting you in the face.
Some things CAN accelerate tumour growth or make it more likely, but the chances of these are so minimal. Either be a man or ask the person smoking next to you politely to go 3 meters away. But don't be bitching like a 90-year-old!
Gosh, now I'm going to light a cigarette... SEE WHAT YOU ALL IGNORANT FOOLS DID TO ME?!?! :D
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Oh gosh stop it. ;D I'm simply trying to quit smoking, not trying to start a mass debate about smoking. CMV, chill man! I hate those people who endlessly bitch about smokers, be a man and inhale it, all those legends about second-hand smoking, that it gives you cancer and makes your life shorter is BULLSHIT! It's just as likely as a meteor hitting you in the face.
Some things CAN accelerate tumour growth or make it more likely, but the chances of these are so minimal. Either be a man or ask the person smoking next to you politely to go 3 meters away. But don't be bitching like a 90-year-old!
Well said :) +1
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CMV, you should watch Doug Stanhope. I adore the guy. ;)
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ok i dont smoke more...
neither less...
same amout still xD
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Go look it up, Komo :)
Ray, I held back! That's why I just went with "ROFL". I just can't help myself whenever someone says "it's not so bad".
Also, gosh!
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I'm not saying it's good or anything, just that I hate people that bitch like this. ;) Then again, if it gets me through my day, why can't other people just accept that?
It's a different thing that I'm on the other hand was born with the intelligence that I don't need to be told to go 3 steps away and blow the smoke into the atmosphere instead of some strangers' face. There are some disgusting pigs who don't do that by themselves, and I'm on the same side on that one as you, I'd choke those people to death if I could. :D
Just end the argument already, okay? Get a beer and let's play some worms, shall we? ;D
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Go look it up, Komo :)
Ray, I held back! That's why I just went with "ROFL". I just can't help myself whenever someone says "it's not so bad".
Also, gosh!
But D1, you are a Doctor lol, and apparently you really really don't like smoking.
I don't care about "health" and all that, as long as you do what you can in life to enjoy it and be nice to others, and I ain't giving up smoking to "possibly" life an extra 5-10 years.
I know ALOT of facts about smoking and how "bad" it is, but it is only "bad" if you "think" it's "bad", the "bad" things about smoke, to me, is nothing compared to more important things in life, and other, much more harmless things.
In fact, the ONLY bad thing about smoking imo, is the f@#!ing price :'(
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...all those legends about second-hand smoking, that it gives you cancer and makes your life shorter is BULLSHIT!
You believe in what you want... But after having analysed in a laboratory what a cigarette contains, and having seen its effects on animals, I do believe what I'm saying.
And again, the atmosphere does not make those toxins disappear. But... whatever, just smoke it.
Edit: ty smiter
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...all those legends about second-hand smoking, that it gives you cancer and makes your life shorter is BULLSHIT!
You believe in what you want... But after having analysed in a laboratory what a cigarette contains, and having seen its effects on animals, I do believe what I'm saying.
And again, the atmosphere does not make those toxins disappear. But... whatever, just smoke it.
1st, we are not animals, and 2nd, different peoples bodies can handle different things, some people are even rare enough to be allergic to inhaling smoke, seriously.
Comparing what humans can handle and animals, just isn't accurate and specific enough for humans, plus the fact most peoples body chemistry is different to others.
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Just end the argument already, okay? Get a beer and let's play some worms, shall we? ;D
Ehhhh?!?!? NE1?!?!?
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Completely agree, Ray :) I'm hoping that could be read as the message in my first post :)
Whenever I had a patient that was smoking, I asked them how many people had given them a stern warning before and if that number was relatively, high, I'd just keep it at "just pretend I gave a rant". People get sick of hearing it over and over. I used to go about as CMV does right now, but really, there are 2 kinds of smokers: 1 that knows and doesn't want to hear it. 1 that doesn't know and refuses to listen anyway.
Okay, perhaps a third that doesn't know and would do things differently if they knew :) Small minority, though and I try not to abuse fear tactics with those people.
Komo: ROFL (@ both posts).
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But... whatever, just smoke it.
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This is true: My great Gran died at 92 years old, she had been smoking since she was 16(legally), although the family knew she started a few years before this cuz of the war and all that. From the age of 40 onwards, she smoked at least 60 a day, I swear I am telling the truth.
She died of natural causes and everyone who lived around her had no health issues/problems or even coughed(due to smoke), even my little cousin didn't have issues with the 2nd hand smoke and she was only 6-7 when we gathered round for Xmas.
But, saying that, we are used to everyone smoking around us here, it doesn't bother us, but, for someone who lives generally most of their life nowhere near smoke, I can see how it's bothersome, and I can see how growing up without a strong influence for smoking as I did unlike me* why you would be so against it.
I am 100% serious when I say this, if I couldn't smoke, due to MY choice and it wasn't MY choice*, I wouldn't want to live anymore.
D1, stop being cocky lol, it really doesn't suit you, for a person who claims to be so smart, you are acting like such a retard/dumbass right now, you should KNOW what my point is, and what I am getting at.
Also D1, I know, and I just don't care, and I don't mind you or CMV saying the stuff you are saying against smoking, each to their own, we will all die anyway.
*I edited the parts I wrote wrong there, said it wrong way round lol.
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Yes, that's a little contradicting, afaik the oldest man in the world had smoked until he was 90-something... I think that's an example of positive mutation - though I really can't explain it. I'm suffocating when anyone's smoking in my 5m area, so maybe I'm a little biased...
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Yes, that's a little contradicting, afaik the oldest man in the world had smoked until he was 90-something... I think that's an example of positive mutation - though I really can't explain it. I'm suffocating when anyone's smoking in my 5m area, so maybe I'm a little biased...
Sorry I don't get this, what did I say that was contradicting?
I don't mind if you hate smoking really, I respect that, I wouldn't smoke in front of you out of respect, i'd like, walk round the corner or out your house or something, have a cig, go toilet wash my mouth out spray some deoderant before coming back to you...
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It's contradicting that there are some people who live for 90 years and smoke through 70 of those and we al know that smoking kills. :)
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It's contradicting that there are some people who live for 90 years and smoke through 70 of those and we al know that smoking kills. :)
How is that contradicting? If anything it's luck/or their body has strong immunity towards those deseases?
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Yes, that's a little contradicting, afaik the oldest man in the world had smoked until he was 90-something... I think that's an example of positive mutation - though I really can't explain it. I'm suffocating when anyone's smoking in my 5m area, so maybe I'm a little biased...
Sorry I don't get this, what did I say that was contradicting?
I don't mind if you hate smoking really, I respect that, I wouldn't smoke in front of you out of respect, i'd like, walk round the corner or out your house or something, have a cig, go toilet wash my mouth out spray some deoderant before coming back to you...
Ray explained it already, I'm sorry if I made you misunderstand something. My English is not perfect on these levels ;(
Edit: Immunity towards poisonous toxins... Well, they take generations to develop, but yeah, it's possible.
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Smoking CAN kill, it doesn't mean it does 100%
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Life kills!
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I just can't help myself whenever someone says "it's not so bad".
It's not so bad! -----> as massive propaganda makes it looks like.
Yes of course it increases the chances for getting sick, but not more as other shits.
I know a lots of old ppl that have smoked all of their life, and yes, they are not in top form, but cigs didn't kill them and they have enjoyed their hedonists way of life.. It's their choice.
On the other hand, I have a several friends (young ppl) which have seriously f@#!ed up their stomachs and ended up in a hospital cause they were addictive and drank a lot of Coca-Cola.. Now tell me, why the hell there is no so massive propaganda against shitty Coca-Cola drink?
Anti-smoking propaganda is excessive, forbidding ppl to smoke in parks or in their apartments or balconies in some countries.. pffft, that sux.
And the lie/propaganda that the cigarette smoke pollutes the earth atmosphere is ridiculous and cynic. Only 1 military war missile pollutes the atmosphere more than all the cigarettes ever smoked (counting Indians pipes too).. ;x
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On the other hand, I have a several friends (young ppl) which have seriously f@#!ed up their stomachs and ended up in a hospital cause they were addictive and drank a lot of Coca-Cola.. Now tell me, why the hell there is no so massive propaganda against shitty Coca-Cola drink?
Because they can afford to bribe every government which would start a propaganda.
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Falling out of an airplane CAN kill, it doesn't mean it does 100%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Magee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Chisov
It's not a question of whether I'm cocky or not. It's just a matter of laughing at something ridiculous. Saying smoking isn't all that bad when it's the single most important risk factor in the three leading causes of death (cardiovascular disease, cancer, COPD) is just so silly. And you say it with such certainty, too. I just can't help myself!
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Falling out of an airplane CAN kill, it doesn't mean it does 100%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Magee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Chisov
It's not a question of whether I'm cocky or not. It's just a matter of laughing at something ridiculous. Saying smoking isn't all that bad when it's the single most important risk factor in the three leading causes of death (cardiovascular disease, cancer, COPD) is just so silly. And you say it with such certainty, too. I just can't help myself!
Risk factor lol, exactly RISK!!!!
It isn't a certainty is it? No, exactly, so shutup ya smug git :P
So funny how you believe in silly statistical numbers etc with your fancy medical degree lol.
Like I said in the PM, you are a Doctor, of COURSE you are gonna see alot of people dying from smoke related issues, but, note you don't take into account, the millions, no, billions of people who die with NOTHING to do with smoking.
Case closed.
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So funny how you believe in silly statistical numbers etc with your fancy medical degree lol.
It helps that those silly statistics have helped us raise the standard of medicine and is still doing so ::) If I could not work with statistics, I would not have been able to function in my job, because there's no such thing as 100% certainty in my job.
You can scoff at that, but it says more about you than about me, mate.
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So funny how you believe in silly statistical numbers etc with your fancy medical degree lol.
It helps that those silly statistics have helped us raise the standard of medicine and is still doing so ::) If I could not work with statistics, I would not have been able to function in my job, because there's no such thing as 100% certainty in my job.
You can scoff at that, but it says more about you than about me, mate.
Ok you are right there, but as far as smoking is concerned, more people DON'T die from it, I still stick with I don't think it's as bad as all the hyped up bullshit Doctors and media make it out to be, if it was THAT bad, it WOULD be illegal.
But, your last sentence, just goes to show your ridiculous smugness cuz you don't smoke and I do, I still feel you are the one losing out living with that attitude.
From now on I ain't arguin with no Doctor about smoking, it's pointless lol.
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I've been a chain smoker for 5 years and I enjoyed it with all of my soul!
but Komo, if anything, you're the smug one here.
D1, stop being cocky lol, it really doesn't suit you, for a person who claims to be so smart, you are acting like such a retard/dumbass right now, you should KNOW what my point is, and what I am getting at.
You just described yourself!! It's amazing how life works :)
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I've been a chain smoker for 5 years and I enjoyed it with all of my soul!
but Komo, if anything, you're the smug one here.
D1, stop being cocky lol, it really doesn't suit you, for a person who claims to be so smart, you are acting like such a retard/dumbass right now, you should KNOW what my point is, and what I am getting at.
You just described yourself!! It's amazing how life works :)
I don't claim to be smart lol, I know i'm "streetsmart" but when it comes to having degrees and making statistical claims etc wasting time researching pointless things you don't really care about to try and win an arguement with someone you've never met, that isn't me, I say what I think, what I feel, and don't care what others.
When it comes to researching and studying etc, i'm f@#!ing dumb and proud of it lol xD
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It's not uncommon :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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It's not uncommon :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Ok so basically, i've stated I love smoking, I think it's great, I don't think cigs are as bad as people make them out to be, and statistically more things kill than smokers/smoke from cigarettes, that's up to me to think that ok? (except the last one, which is actually true).
Then d1 is getting all cocky and smartass by posting what he's posted, acting all smart posting links with research that still doesn't take anything away from my opinion, he's wrong because he cannot give any evidence whatsoever that more people die from smoking/smoke related illnesses etc than anything else in our present existence.
I've already said I know smoking is "bad" because yes, it can be harmful to your body, it definately makes your breath smell like shit, but only to those who really really hate the smell of smoke, some people like it, I like it, whenever I smell someone who reeks of smoke, I gotta smoke it's that good! Whenever I see someone in a film or TV program I am watching light up a cig, guess what, I light one up to it's like, hell yeah, gimme one of those bad boys!
If you can give me 100% undeniable, and plausible proof, that smoking/2nd hand smoke, and cigarette related illnesses cause more people to die than, natural causes, accidents, other illnesses which have nothing to do with smoking/2nd hand smoke and cigarette related illnesses, pollution, natural disasters and the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on etc etc etc, (which you can't lol) then I swear, I will do ANYTHING you want, you name it, i'll do it.
Hate smoking all you want, but don't lie about it lol.
And lol:
Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:
1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they can be trained to substantially improve.
I know I pass this thing cuz I know I can always improve at everything, always, I always compliment others and constantly notice skill and talent in others and ALWAYS advise people to never give up, I am stubborn, obviously, I will defend myself with everything in my power and when I have indeniable proof, not just a theory and some clever words put together, that I am wrong, I will accept that/admit that, and try to see where I went wrong so I can learn.
Ok but the last one, I don't get, isn't recognising and acknowledging your own previous lack of skill, and trying to train and improve that, a good thing?
What's wrong with knowing you are better than you were before? Yet still knowing you can still improve, or am I reading it wrong?
Shouldn't it be, fail to recognize and acknowledge, if they can be trained to substantially improve?
That is actually quite interesting D1 :)
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FTW
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FOR YOU RAY
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Well lol, you tried xD
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Lmao. xD
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Ok you are right there, but as far as smoking is concerned, more people DON'T die from it, I still stick with I don't think it's as bad as all the hyped up bullshit
Doctors and media make it out to be, if it was THAT bad, it WOULD be illegal.
hahaaha u just made my day, are u 4 real?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u really believe something gets illegal coz its unhealthy?!!?!?!? OMG OMG LMAOOOOOOOO in what world are u living??
simple examples: weed is 1000 times less unhealthy than ciggs, tell me why is it illegal??? COZ SOMEBODY GETS MONEY ON IT, and then why u can just simply buy in stores most dangerous poisons which can kill u in 5 mins??? where is the logic???? THERE IS NO LOGIC, ONLY MONEY COUNTS deal with it
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redi, i dont think weed is 1000 times less unhealthy than ciggs, both f@#! up, but hmm i smoke like 30 cigs a day xD
and it since iam 17...try to make the same from now on, smoke 30 joints a day, ill keep smoking 30 cigs, see you in 10 years.
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hmmm let me think... ofcourse im not saying that weed isnt making any damage but mostly it deppends on person, i started smoking ciggs when i was like 13 and weed when 14, now i dont smoke ciggs and i feel 1000 times healthier than when i did, and im still a daily stoner like 3-4 years and most probably will smoke 10 next years so maybe we will be able to compare, and weed can do some damage only to the lumbs and it also has many medicinal practises, what cant u tell about ciggs, they f@#!s up everything not only lumbs but the rest of the organs also
and ur example isnt really good, why should i smoke 30 joints a day when i just simply dont need that much? :DDDD i think i would be able to do but u would have to buy them for me first since i cant grow my owns already :/
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Lol Nino xD.
IN MY OPINION.
It's not like you smoke 30 joints a day, so you can't really compare them.. yes SMOKING weed can be/is unhealthy because of all the toxins that the burning process itself contains. You could either eat or vaporize weed and it would be really healthy way to get high (body-wise).
Smoking cigs is f@#!ing LETHAL, there's no denying that. It's just not that it affects your health long-term, it also f@#!s up so many things in your day-to-day life.. for example, lowered energy levels, you smell like shit, your kisses smell like shit, food doesn't taste so good.. not to mention you SPEND money to do your body HARM (you only love smoking cigs because it relieves the nicotine addiction which you wouldn't have if you didn't smoke). Paradoxal, yea?
I haven't smoked a cig in 8 days but even when I used to smoke I knew it's really bad for me. You really don't respect yourself a lot if you don't want to be healthy, and this works in all areas, not just smoking.. eating well etc.
It's just a dumb habit and the only thing that REALLY makes it enjoyable, is the fact your body is addicted to it. When I stopped smoking I noticed it's DEFINATELY not the cigs I craved most, it was the habit of smoking.
I'm not attacking anyone personally here, I'm just attacking cigs.
Peace.
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I agree with free, but for me the diference betwen weed and cig it that u just cant smoke weed like you do with cigs, i mean, iam going to work..then i light a cig in my car, then i just get in the office and start to work, then i stop a bit and smoke again. that just cant be done with weed lol, weed is something to relax, but really relax xD
sometimes i smoke weed too, usually at fridays when i meet deco xD then hes smoking i just smoke a bit.
the only thing i like at get stoned is the sex u cum like a horny dog rofl u know when the dog keep bombing the dog girl when he already cummed for minutes ago? thats what happens to me XDDDDDDDDDDD
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Weed is THE plant: it grows easily, worth nothing, and you can make almost everything with it (plus it can heals some diseases).
Why is it illegal ? Cause it would ruins THEIR economy.
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(plus it can heals some diseases).
Really? Source, please. So far, I have not found any sources to confirm cannabis curing disease.
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Really? Source, please. So far, I have not found any sources to confirm cannabis curing disease.
:OO my words can confirm, it always helps me when i have stomach ache and after i smoke i sweat much less and its good coz my ass dont gets wet huaha
if u dont believe my words just watch that video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#
u dutch ppl... :DDD
hmm i watched it long ago not sure in which part it was but there are many videos about marijuana healing practises
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Really? Source, please. So far, I have not found any sources to confirm cannabis curing disease.
:OO my words can confirm, it always helps me when i have stomach ache and after i smoke i sweat much less and its good coz my ass dont gets wet huaha
if u dont believe my words just watch that video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#
u dutch ppl... :DDD
That's symptom relief, not curing the source of your stomach ache. Morphine doesn't cure cancer, but it does relief cancer pain.
Very important difference.
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hmm i wouldnt be so sure, when someting hurts me and i smoke it doesnt stop to hurts me so there must be something different going on there pal ;D there are also many different herbs that helps for stomach ache like melissa u should`ve heard about it, would say it also does the thing u said? ;D
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So, if you cut your finger and then you take paracetamol (or tylenol in america) so it doesn't hurt anymore. At some point your finger will stop hurting even thought you're not taking paracetamol anymore.
Did paracetamol cure the cut?
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So, if you cut your finger and then you take paracetamol (or tylenol in america) so it doesn't hurt anymore. At some point your finger will stop hurting even thought you're not taking paracetamol anymore.
Did paracetamol cure the cut?
XDDDD
it is funny cos usually peoples who like the weed, says it is good, it helps, LOL
usually who smoke cig, is much more honest , we know it f@#! up, we just dont give a f@#!.
but of course weed f@#! up lol.
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Smoke weed in a vaporizer, then completely healthy. I think cigs and weed are both healthier then alcohol.
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No. You could argue they're less harmfull, though... :)
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I did my researches long time ago for a talk exam on Marijuana, before I started smoking (so it's not my case Nino :) ).
And D1, I clearly can't give you the sources anymore (except if I search a bit, but I really don't want/have the time to).
Maybe I'll try to find it again after my exams.
But I can tell you which deseases it cures:
- Breast Cancer.
- Multiple Sclerosis.
- Bone Marrow Cancer.
- And another one I can't remember.
Those were the only one I found. About other deseases, they only said it helped to get hungry during a chemotherapy and sometimes had a anti-pain effect.
Where I mostly found my sources: Canada Laboratories.
I also found that weed became illegal for economic reasons.
But yeah, it was always Web documents, so it can be not true.
I wish I had the skills and the stuff to make self researches on Marijuana.
I'm sure there is more things to find, especially the effects on the neurons.
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If you make a wild claim, you better back it up, man. Sources can make a critical man change his mind, while baseless claims are just that.
Cannabis is not included in the standard treatment of breast or bone marrow cancer. Not here, not in america, not anywhere. Perhaps it can be used to help treat symptoms, but not the disease itself.
The same applies to multiple sclerosis afaik, though I'm not sure about that, since neurology is not a field I was active in.
I could claim cannabis causes alzheimer's disease, schizophrenia and strokes, but if I don't have sources that back that up, you would not believe it. I don't know of sources that makes such claims, though there are reports that show a relationship between cannabis use and psychosis.
I still won't make the claim that cannabis causes psychosis, because there could very well be a common cause of both.
If you're going to check websites and do "research", I strongly advise you to check back the original source. Otherwise, you will continually fall victim to people like monckton ( 4 videos, but it should give you a good idea. Note that in the video description, this guy gives sources.)
A claim should stand on it being logical or proven, which means you're going to need a source. In the age of information, nothing less will be taken seriously.
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(plus it can heals some diseases).
Really? Source, please. So far, I have not found any sources to confirm cannabis curing disease.
This is just first out of 7 parts of 8-9 mins, all together it's about an hour, watch it all if U have time..
It's our ancestors cure/medicine, it's in our genes.. Ppl have cured skin cancer with it, they say.. But it depends of a point of view, depends of which evidence U take for the real ones, same as in 9/11 topic.. ;x
Edit: Like having a claim that airplane have or have not hit the pentagon building even if there's no video to back it up as a source.
And the paradox is in the fact that the pentagon must have like hundreds of security cameras which have recorded it... Still there's not just 1 video of it for all the "non-believers"..
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I wish my english was good enough to understand what they say in those videos.
But anyway, I'll try to find you the sources in 2 weeks minimum.
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Shit wrong thread!!!
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I'll check the video entirely later, Ramone (too late now), but I'm happy to see it has sources :)
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Smoking cigs is f@#!ing LETHAL, there's no denying that. It's just not that it affects your health long-term, it also f@#!s up so many things in your day-to-day life.. for example, lowered energy levels, you smell like shit, your kisses smell like shit, food doesn't taste so good.. not to mention you SPEND money to do your body HARM (you only love smoking cigs because it relieves the nicotine addiction which you wouldn't have if you didn't smoke). Paradoxal, yea?
It's just a dumb habit and the only thing that REALLY makes it enjoyable, is the fact your body is addicted to it. When I stopped smoking I noticed it's DEFINATELY not the cigs I craved most, it was the habit of smoking.
Yes, cigs can be lethal, it can lower your enery levels, you do smell bad (to most people), most smokers I know date other smokers so kissing doesn't matter lol, for me, I love the taste of smoke and the smell of it, food I don't know I can't take someone elses word for that but if you read on, I will find out, yes, waste of money in a sense, if you don't want to be doing it.
But, I totally disagree with the last sentence, in my experience my body is NOT addicted to cigs/nicotine, I just love the smell of smoke, even when I didn't smoke I love the smell of it, I f@#!ing love everything about smoking, I just really really REALLY like the feeling of inhaling smoke and it travelling down my throat then the feeling of blowing it out, it just amazes me, and personally anyone who tries to tell me it's the nicotine, im addicted, seriously, go f@#! yourself lol maybe for most people it's addictive, but for me, I just do it cuz I like it, which brings me to my next point.
I have to disagree, after a huge PM arguement with Darkone about smoking and stuff, and then having a seriously massive arguement with a friend of mine in real life who said its impossible to quit smoking and telling me it's addictive n shit, I decided to stop smoking, just to see what it's like, and just to prove a point.
I don't want to stop smoking, but I definately want to prove a point, it's been 3 days already now, and so far, seriously, I haven't even craved a cigarette once yet, it's so easy to give up smoking for me I am actually in shock that it's so easy for me, I don't know why it's easy for me so far and for others it's hard. To me this is proof I am not addicted, and it's not "just a habit" for me I do it because I want to and I really enjoy it, like some people enjoy peanuts or sex or driving cars or f@#!ing anything really, and I know, before anyone says it, "it's not the same cuz blah blah scientific mumbo jumbo no one really f@#!ing cares about it's just to make me look smart blah blah" I know cigarettes have "addictive" elements to them that are proven to be "addictive", but to me, it's not.
But so far it's only been 3 days, i've still gotta testdrive not smoking whilst drinking which i'll be doing this weekend
My body doesn't feel "the need" to have a cigarette, as in, I haven't even once thought "I need a cig, I can't do this, IM GOING TO DIE AAAAAAH" nope, so far i've actually laughed at how easy i've coped with it so far, and I bloody hope it stays this easy lol.
I really really don't want to give up smoking, I just like it so much :( But funnily enough, the same way I quit smoking weed, I just stopped to prove a point to someone and realised what's the point, so for me, I love smoking but, what's the point?
I'll see how long I can last, if I don't see any improvement over the next 2-3 months i'll probably just start again, but lol, when I told my gf that I have quit smoking, she actually got mad at me "Don't me telling me to quit smoking, don't be getting angry and taking frustration out on me blah blah" it was quite funny, I done a classic re-inactment of her shouting @ my "good" news and she was laughing xD
Oh and, i've been smoking since I was 12, about 3-4 a day till I was about 16 where I started smoking about 10 a day, then when I was 19 started drinking started smoking about 20 a day, and for last 5 years i've been smoking 120-140 a week. I am 25 now.
I will say this, the thought of having an extra £1440+ a year (£120+ a month), to spend on ANYTHING, is pretty exciting stuff :)
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before anyone says it, "it's not the same cuz blah blah scientific mumbo jumbo no one really f@#!ing cares about
This, my friend, is why people voted for you in a certain category in the worms awards ::)
But good for you that it's so easy to quit for you so far. Of course not everybody is going to have a hard time quitting, but plenty of other people do show signs of withdrawal unfortunately.
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before anyone says it, "it's not the same cuz blah blah scientific mumbo jumbo no one really f@#!ing cares about
This, my friend, is why people voted for you in a certain category in the worms awards ::)
But good for you that it's so easy to quit for you so far. Of course not everybody is going to have a hard time quitting, but plenty of other people do show signs of withdrawal unfortunately.
Is it? Well, maybe it should win them the dumbass award? The reason I said that, is cuz most people act like a smartass here and automatically assume you have no idea you know something that they know, we all have the internet, we can all do research, don't need some stupid links from someone else trying to be a smartass to tell me something I already know, like you in your PM's telling me things I already knew and I already told you I knew yet you continue to say it as if I don't know, hoping to achieve something lol...
I don't get it though, I thought i'd be having these weird "I NEED A CIG" moments, but nothing... Maybe it won't affect me until after 1 week or something?
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smartass ftw xD
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Cig does not provoke a physical addiction, but a mental one - such as many drugs.
As you said you love it. But do you love it by yourself, or the nicotine makes you feel that way ?
Try to stop smoking. If after some days you really need to smoke, then you're addicted.
If you'd like to smoke cig and not being able to doesn't matter for you, then you're not.
Anyway, it doesn't mean it's bad. Since many there are mental addicted to Worms. :p
Since you like it, you're free to do it. :)
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Ray I just want to copy-paste for you the personal note from my profile page -->Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. ;)
I study medicine and I plan to dedicate big part of my life helping people who want to quit smoking do so, helping others who don't want such thing to realize why they should want it (if of course they want to hear about it), and tell those who haven't smoked yet why they should stay away for their own good. I 've never smoked and I think I won't do it now (I'm already 29) What I know from example in my very family is that a serious health issue arising could be a great motive to withdraw but why do we have to come to that point? There is a greek proverb I'm gonna try translate here: A clever man can successfully deal with a problem that a wise man won't even encounter in his life. You should also know that prevention will always be better than the best treatment. Life is yours, decisions are yours I wish to everyone to always make decisions that will never regret later in his/her life
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Cig does not provoke a physical addiction, but a mental one...
I wish people would stop posting bullshit. Your statement comes in handy, sorry for taking you for example again ::)
Nicotine indeed causes physical addiction. Don't even try to convince me it doesn't.
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sorry for taking you for example again ::)
Np, it's how it works. ;)
Don't you think this physical addiction is just born from your mind ?
Since people who really want to stop had no problems to do it ? (I'd like to point again the "really want".)
Anyway, the books I read told me that (the mental addiction, not the rest). So who's right between us too ?
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Don't you think this physical addiction is just born from your mind ?
Since people who really want to stop had no problems to do it ? (I'd like to point again the "really want".)
Anyway, the books I read told me that (the mental addiction, not the rest). So who's right between us too ?
Have you ever thought mental addiction can originate from chemical processes in your brain? Serotonin, various neurotransmitters, whole bunch of chemical receptors on nerve cells, there's a lot of shit going on when you drag a smoke. When few hours later you're dying for another cig, you can bet molecules in your skull are playing games with you. :)
Don't ask me for sources on that, people who study medicine, physiology, biochemistry (like D1) can be the source for you, and you better believe them. :)
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I know there is chemical processes. But what is sure, is that 4 years ago when I read books about drugs, cigs was noted as a mental drugs and not a physical one (such as heroin).
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It's all a matter of neurotransmitters anyway :)
Psychological factors play a large role in how we experience things. Some people feel a heart attack as a huge amount of pain in the chest, while others may feel a slight feeling of pressure on the chest.
But that's not to say that only psychological factors play a role. There has to be a physical stimulus to begin with. Doctors all around the world hate René Descartes for ever suggesting the physical and the mental are two completely separate entities.
Just saw this hilarious video I had to share :) Someone talking without credible source!
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Hey D1 how long do you reckon it will take for me to start feeling the benefits of not smoking like easier breathing n stuff, like will my nose stop being so blocked up when I wake up and food
tastin different and can you tell me some other good things it's quite exciting now lol
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In 20 minutes your blood pressure will drop back down to normal.
In 8 hours the carbon monoxide (a toxic gas) levels in your blood stream will drop by half, and oxygen levels will return to normal.
In 48 hours your chance of having a heart attack will have decreased. All nicotine will have left your body. Your sense of taste and smell will return to a normal level.
In 72 hours your bronchial tubes will relax, and your energy levels will increase.
In 2 weeks your circulation will increase, and it will continue to improve for the next 10 weeks.
In 3 to 9 months coughing, wheezing, and breathing problems will dissipate as your lung capacity improves by 10%.
In 1 year your risk of having a heart attack will have dropped by half.
In 5 years your risk of having a stroke returns to that of a non-smoker.
In 10 years your risk of lung cancer will have returned to that of a non-smoker.
In 15 years your risk of heart attack will have returned to that of a non-smoker.
Source: Google Effects of quitting smoking.
I can confirm most of that myself (of course I can't prove myself that my heart attack risk has dropped) but my energy is better than with smoking, my coughing is gone and the best effect is smelling and tasting. I can't tell you how often I taste/smell things smokers don't taste or smell, it's really funny.
I have quit smoking quite easy, it never had been an important status for me, it was purely our of boredom and a bad habit of course. I mean if you use your logic you can't deny that smoking is bad. It's smoke! You are willing to breath in smoke that you would naturally avoid, your instincts even tell you that it's bad. (Smoke from fire, pollution etc.)
A little tip if you have a hard time quitting smoking: Try quitting when you are sick, most people don't smoke when they are sick. I know this sounds stupid but the best time to stop smoking is when you are really feeling bad. (surgery, bad cold) That's mostly because your body has more important things to handle than your little stupid addiction, so it won't bother you with "I need to smoke". ;)
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ae anubis, i agree with u 100%
one thing that i never had or have is cough, i find it nice hehe, cos cough sucks.
the thing of try to stop smoking when sick is really a good point, i never tryed, but i f@#!ing h8 when iam with cold or something cos cant smoke as i usually i do, i use to say id rather a shoot in my feet than this f@#!ing cold lol, of course as a joke, anyway long time i dont get a cold or something.
i just started to go to gym again since a long time i dont, and this made me remember that when i was really working out hard ( some peoles here remember the bull i was) i used to smoke much less, ill try to make it back again, i dont want stop smoke now tbh, but smoke less amount of cig would be really nice :)
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It's been almost 4 days now, and my sense of smell and taste are still the same as if I was still smoking...
LMFAO, for a minute there I had completly forgot I stopped smoking, I just finished eating a pack of crisps, then put a cig in my mouth and almost lit it and I sorta spat it out like "wtf *laughed* I've quit *laugh again*..."
Just a habit of lighting up after eating... Jus glad I remembered in time xD
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I remember a few years ago I stopped smoking for almost a week while I was ill.
The increase in taste was dramatic. I remember a bacon sandwich tasting absolutely amazing. And beer too. I could really taste the difference.
;O
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I am gonna be drinking tonight, so, it might turn out to bother me while drinking, but sober, I am fine without haven't had a single crave for a smoke for 4 days now.
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I am gonna be drinking tonight, so, it might turn out to bother me while drinking, but sober, I am fine without haven't had a single crave for a smoke for 4 days now.
I don't smoke a huge amount. Maybe 5-10 a day. But I would definitely have the odd urge if I suddenly went cold turkey. I just know it.
I decided to stop smoking, just to see what it's like, and just to prove a point.
You went into this 'experiment' fully committed to proving your point. Because of the type of person you are, I don't think anything would be able to stop you proving your point. It was absolutely guaranteed in my mind that you would successfully prove your point.
To me, if a habitual smoker suddenly goes cold turkey and doesn't have a single craving for a cigarette in 4 whole days. That just shows what amazing things the mind can acheive when trying to proving a point.
I don't really think it proves anything about smoking. It just proves that you're a stubborn arse.
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If people who wanted to stop smoking were like Komo, they would have already stopped. :D
I personnaly thinks it's just about envy. I saw many very "addicted" people stop(ping?) smoking when they really wanted.
And many who has restarted confessed they, in fact, just didn't want to.
It's just about admitting it. :)
Well, I can be wrong, but I really believe it. If you want something (at least you believe in it), you can get it, even if it's an impossible one (dreams are there for those). :)
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I bought three packs since the day I created this topic... Well, that's still some sort of an improvement, that means I smoke a pack in three days instead of one.
Let's get better now.
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Gj ! Continue that way ! ;)
If I cold give you an advice, do not try to reduce anymore, but to stay at 1 pack every 3 days. At least until you feel ready to reduce again. :)
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I don't really think it proves anything about smoking. It just proves that you're a stubborn arse.
hahahahaaha that was good! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I don't really think it proves anything about smoking. It just proves that you're a stubborn arse.
Obviously I have other reasons to stop, such as saving money, smelling better lol, and why you so close-minded?
I can stop easily, because I am a strong person who has the will to do whatever I want...
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Ok so I am a little tipsy now, had 2 ciders, and 5 vodkas lol, and thinking about having a cig, I know I don't need one, it doesn't bother me to go without, but I just "want" one, if that makes sense?
Ah f@#! man, wtf is it about alcohol that amplifies your desire for a cig? I actually really want one now... I was fine when I was 100% sober... It just tastes so f@#!ing good when drinking...
Ok, I just smoked 1 cig, i've had 1 cig, and it tasted pretty shit cuz I haven't had one for 4-5 days, but, I got a serious head rush and THAT felt weird, but sorta like, druggy lol, like, I felt this intense rush to my head like orgasm in my brain or something...
I am confused now lol... I will try to not have anymore see what happens...
I won't be doing that again, actually felt horrible after 5 minutes, starting to realise it is better without although I KNOW I still enjoy the feeling of smoking... I just had to try 1 while drinking to see the effects... And now I know so, yay xD
AH seriously,k I cannlt NOT smoke while drinkiing, that's 2 cigs i've had now in 5 days... I can't heklp smoke while drunk lol, i can avoid when not dirnkioing wtf !!!
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looks like u r much more addicted in alchool than nicotine, poor komito xD
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looks like u r much more addicted in alchool than nicotine, poor komito xD
After tonight, I quit drinking for a while, so in 3 months, with no smoke, maybe I can drink with no smoke, but still I only had 2 cigs so far, cuz drink, and normally i've had 20 by now... I normally smoke 40+ cigs in one night drinking, so 2-3-4 cigs is a VERY VERY big improvement for me, atm... I will try to manipulate my own mind further, and stop this nonsense...
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i always put in my mind that, if one day i really quit smoke, i have to quit drinking too, i dont really care for drinking, i used to drink a lot when younger, then going to drink in some bars then bang some girls and f@#! and go home sleep, but nowadays iam very quiet, just making my plans with girls and f@#!ing in a darkside place lol, and when iam home i never drink alone.
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i always put in my mind that, if one day i really quit smoke, i have to quit drinking too, i dont really care for drinking, i used to drink a lot when younger, then going to drink in some bars then bang some girls and f@#! and go home sleep, but nowadays iam very quiet, just making my plans with girls and f@#!ing in a darkside place lol, and when iam home i never drink alone.
I can not smoke, but I can not drink and not smoke, I am addicted to smoking, while under the influence of alcohol, BUT, I am NOT addicted to cigs when sober...
Am I weird or something? Or is that normal?
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Can stop smoking . . . . but can not stop drinking . . . . . it happens
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I am actually impressed... I got annoyed in s "warmer" with shady os and flowingwater, so I decided to go shop, get some food, I got crisps, and sticks of cheese, and f@#! ME, the cheese and crisps taste more, "powerful" than before...
This "no smoking" thing, is starting to seem really really really f@#!ing good, D1, thank you very much, for being a part of the reason I decided to stop :)
OMFG MAN, EVEN SALT N VINEGAR CRISPS WITH CHEESE TASTE 100000 TIMES BETTER !!!
Seriously... Am I trippin or something, I can't believe how damn good, these salt n vinegar crisps taste right now, normally, alcohol makes me a bit hungry when tired but WOAH MAN !!! This is amazing, those were seriously the best crisps and cheese i've ate for like, at least 10 years lol...
I swear, I am ordering a MASSIVE! PIZZA tonight !!!!!!
D1 lol, although I still stand by everything I say (probably stupidly) I just tested, smoking another cig, and after 2 puffs felt totally disgusted, and put it out, and I actually made an angry gesture towards the cig, that in MY language is like "f@#!ING c@#! WASTED f@#!IGN 14 YEARS OF MY f@#!ING LIFE MOTHER f@#!ER" but in half a second and a flick of the wrist...
D1, you were right, I was wrong, smoking IS bad, although I enjoy it, and accept I am NOT addicted, I still LIKE it, but realise it has no use and/or place in my life, I feel better already, I can't explain enough how grateful I am, one day, I will do something very VERY good for you and you won't even expect it...
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Ray, a testimony for you! :)
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Komo, the reason why you have a harder time while under the influence of alcohol is because your will power is lowered, that's why people do stupid things while drunk, that's common sense though. :)
But nonetheless, great to see another one escaped the silliness that is called smoking, in a few weeks you will stop thinking about smoking at all and can't even imagine smoking again. And of course you will soon understand why 2nd hand smoking sucks hard, it smells worse than the actual smoke you breath in.
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I am proud though, I only had 3 cigs, compared to the normal 30-40 I normally have when drinking, i'm fcking astonished it's amazing xD
So far 5 days without cigs, then got completely smashed drinking from 8pm-5am and in that time only had 3 cigs, f@#!ing miracle to me xD
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komo, u r lucky, and not really addicted in any way, like my granddad, smoked for like 30 years, one day he said wont smoke anymore and he didnot smoke till die, some peoples are passive to get much more addicted than others imo, now next step, soop drinking forever, i bet thats much more hard for u xD
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komo, u r lucky, and not really addicted in any way, like my granddad, smoked for like 30 years, one day he said wont smoke anymore and he didnot smoke till die, some peoples are passive to get much more addicted than others imo, now next step, soop drinking forever, i bet thats much more hard for u xD
I know I wasn't addicted lol, that's what I was trying to say from the start lol... But, I wouldn't call it lucky, I am a believer anyone can do anything if they put their mind to it, you gotta control yourself, not let other things control you ;)
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indeed man, thats what makes u more or less addicted lol, now next step since u r a believer! god exists!! gogogog beleive hauhauha
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indeed man, thats what makes u more or less addicted lol, now next step since u r a believer! god exists!! gogogog beleive hauhauha
Not that kinda believer dumbass :P ;)
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indeed man, thats what makes u more or less addicted lol, now next step since u r a believer! god exists!! gogogog beleive hauhauha
Not that kinda believer dumbass :P ;)
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Wtf is that picture lol? It doesn't make sense... What does it mean lol?
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i dunno, just thought funny :D
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It's been over a week now since I stopped :)
I am sure I can safely say I won't be smoking again, for now, I like smoking but, it's so good having that extra money I think i'll never smoke again...
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This is my 9th day without smoking. I took the opportunity of my surgery that made me pretty much unable to smoke for at least a week, now I feel like I could, but I don't want to.
Now that I'm thinking about it, I do miss it a lot. Well, they say the body needs 21 days without cigarettes to switch to the non-smoker mode... I hope I'll be strong enough...
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good luck ray 8)
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i've stoped smoking since 19 november of 2011. Feeling good, at this carnival i've smoked 1 box of cig at party but i dont really feel smoking again, iam back to gym , got more 7 kilos since I stoped and getting strong like a bull again. Ill post some picture soon.
Gl ae Ray.
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Gl and willpower Ray.
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its already been 1 month and some days without weed ... cos i dont have any , atm i would kill for a single joint ;(
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6 days without a smoke here.
Come to Canada Guaton. I'll get you one.
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This is my 9th day without smoking. I took the opportunity of my surgery that made me pretty much unable to smoke for at least a week, now I feel like I could, but I don't want to.
Now that I'm thinking about it, I do miss it a lot. Well, they say the body needs 21 days without cigarettes to switch to the non-smoker mode... I hope I'll be strong enough...
Trust me mate it's all about willpower, you gotta outthink your own mind, force it to think things, in my opinion, and I am a very strong believer in this, there is no such thing as addiction, because literally, you CAN survive without it, and only the weak people give in to the "addiction".
I quit last January, it's been over a year for me, and i've never felt better, technically, I do still smoke though because I use these cigarettes for joints to smoke cannabis, the ridiculously light ones that aren't even f@#!ing cigarettes, the ones if you gave them to a criminal they would probably slap you in the face for insulting their throat, I used to use dried cannabis leave trimmings, but they ran out about 4-5 months ago lol, anyway, I go through about 20-30 of these "extra extra extra light" cigs a week, which is still alot better than the 160+ a week I was going through before.
But I quit drinking alcohol too, since I stopped, I started performing alot better at my job, everyone respects me now, the managers don't tell me what to do, I tell them what I'm going to do (resonably, of course).I've lost some weight, starting to get back into shape, even though I'd prefer being bigger weight/looks don't bother me like they did when I was young.
I don't smoke joints outside, so that means I still sometimes go days without smoking a joint, and I still don't get any urge whatsoever to smoke cigs.
I don't really care if people look at me for smoking weed and say "ah that's bad" cuz the truth is i've never felt so good, I smoke it after my work it helps me to unwind and relax and helps me to sleep, plus it's great for concentration when I am producing music, I don't hurt anyone, and it definately doesn't make me lazy lol.
Most importantly, I haven't had a smokers cough for about 9 months now, and everytime I am ill, it's not as bad, because I don't have the "smokers symptoms" on top of regular symptoms...
Anyway, good luck people !
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komo, i agree with your willpower thing...
but its still addiction... addiction has nothing to do with surviving with out it
addiction can be mental, physical, or emotional.... or all of the above....
so you kinda contradicted yourself saying its all willpower, but its not addiction, just sayin'
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Yes avirex, but alike God, I don't believe in it, addiction, I see it as things you do, or don't do, for unique reasons for each person.
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I kind of think the same, I mean, it is me, buying it, taking it out of the package, putting it in my mouth and lighting it, that is all me, I'm doing it consciously even though I know it is bad and it costs a lot.
Yes, I feel the need to smoke and that is most likely my body, biologically, it's sending signs to my brain that it would like to get some nicotine, but I basically only feel this when I'm thinking about smoking, like now, in this thread.
On a different note, it's great that my smell is coming back slowly, because the other day, I could smell a cigarette my dad was smoking and it stroke me as so f@#!ing disgusting, I think I couldn't smoke one now if I was given one.
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That's the best part of it, after you quit smoking you flame all the other smokers how bad they smell. I loved that double morale. =D
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im smoking right now, this sleeping bitch on my couch doesnt mind! whats up Kaiiiiiiiii
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dude rn't u gonna take advntage of her pass'd out?