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Other Things => Off Topic => Topic started by: Abnaxus on May 11, 2011, 12:08 AM
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I would like to open a debate which touches me personnaly.
I've rarely talked about it, 'cause people would call me insane (as Ramone did on a thread).
It's about "supernatural" things (which in fact isn't so supernatural).
First part is about Telekinesy, but in real, it's just about the body magnetism (at least I guess, since it's the only thing I found which made sense).
Second one is unknown. I really don't have any explications, and I'd like to know if someone lived such weird things.
First of all. No, I don't do this due to those "magicians" we see everywhere, but because I lived that, I saw it by myself, and in one case, I weren't alone.
Plus my father lived something similar imo.
I had never took any drugs, and I very rarely took medicines (I was against).
Let me tell you what were the situations:
Magnetism:
- A mate brought back a laser when I was around 12 years old (I didn't yet smoke if it's your first conclusion), and while he was in front of the computer and me on the couch, we both saw the laser box fligh straight up, stay up for around 4 secondes, and then fall back down.
- Some monthes ago, after a huge break about those things, it started again. I was in front of my computer:
1) My Hi Fi started to raise the sound alone. I turned myself to watch at it and it suddenly stopped. Then I put the volume back to what it was.
2) The same thing happenned again in the next 10sec.
3) There I started thinking it was like in the movies: my voltage started to grow highly while I was thinking it would do it again, but when I would turn back it wouldn't stop growing.
And just after I though this (in fact while I was thinking of it, after 3 sec, I continued thinking but I turned myself meanwhile), it exactly happenned.
And I really couldn't stop the Hi Fi, I tryed every keys but nothing worked. I had no other choice then taking the electric plug out of the socket.
- My father used to have an unkown desease which made him gets tumors (benign or not, we don't know, it was just "balls") randomly appear on a part of his body and then randomly dissapear to go somewhere else, from feet to head. He went to many doctors and no ones found what it was.
He went to a magnetisor, and after some meeting, it totally dissappeared and never came back again.
Unknown:
- When I was young again (exactly during the period of the "laser fly"), a day, when I woke up, my pillowcase was cut in 4, like a cross, from half of an edge to the opposite one, and the same for both other edges.
- Anotherday, I tryed to find the solution of a math problem for school and couldn't find it. The day after, when I woke up, the whole problem was solved on a paper, with my writing.
- Around the same dates, almost every night, I felt like a presence in my room, something very weird. I couldn't get if it was a safe or a devil one, but I really could feel it, I could even know the place of it in the room. It just was standing in the opposite part of my bed.
And sometimes when I woke up during the night, I could feel like breaths near my ears.
For this one, I guess my brain totally made it up to get a reason of all those weird things which happenned, but I really don't know.
Btw, when the Hi Fi thing happenned, I felt this presence again.
- Same dates again, this oftenly happenned, it was like if I was living my body, getting 2-3 meters up of it and then I could hear multiple conversations at the same time. But it was real conversations, between people who were sitting not so far of me. But the weird thing is I could hear the 6 or 7 conversations at the same time, getting all words, all sentences and the meaning of them.
Plus I could also see my body down there.
This was always happenning when I had absences (I really often had those).
- To finish, I lived twice a slow motion view, when a mate threw me an object for example. The throw might have lasted 2sec in real, but I lived it for 8 secondes in slow motion.
I think it's all, or at least it's all I can remember.
I hadn't payed much attention to this until I lived it again phew months ago with the Hi Fi volume (I didn't forgot it, but as it seemed to have dissapeared, I left it alone).
I really don't have any clues of what it was.
I first though it was hallucinations, but about the laser we were 2, and there were too much of those.
I had the choice of believing in it and looking like an insane guy, or forget it and live the rest of my life in regret (in case it would have been real).
So you know what was my choice.
Since then, I decided to find why and how; and it is my real and only goal in life.
So I'd like to get your opinion about it, especially from you Cue & D1 who both seems to know pretty much things.
Any clues are welcome, even if it can be false. I really need everything everybody knows about it.
Thanks.
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I will respond to what you say in more detail man but you quickly explain what the debate is about?
You've told some stories from your life etc. But what are we actually debating?
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Is this real or not ? Is this possible ? Can the human controls his magnetism to do some special things like telekinesy (well in this case, it wouldn't have been on purpose) ?
I just wanna know more about it. :/
It's a subject I've dealt with only once, and I really know nothing except what I saw. It's totally confusing.
Well you can take it as a help request instead of a debate.
But preventing the responses, I guess it will open one.
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Don't wanna scare U, but U might need to check your head on X-rays.. Tumors can cause some of these disorders..
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I can maybe search my books for stuff. But I don't think they can help you. It's all pseudo-science.. may make sense, but none of it is scientific fact.
But, there may be medical reasons for quite a few of the situations you describe. When your brain is having an absence I'm not surprised your consciousness 'leaves' your body (changing its perspective is a better word I guess).. and some of those nighttime adventures may be 'normal' sleepwalking (triggered by the stress of having to finish homework), etc.
I've heard stories from people in my family, about inexplicable things happening, but never experienced them myself.
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Is this real or not ? Is this possible ? Can the human controls his magnetism to do some special things like telekinesy (well in this case, it wouldn't have been on purpose) ?
I just wanna know more about it. :/
It's a subject I've dealt with only once, and I really know nothing except what I saw. It's totally confusing.
Well you can take it as a help request instead of a debate.
But preventing the responses, I guess it will open one.
So these strange things are still happening to you at certain times right? And you can't find an explanation for them? So you're thinking that the explanation may be a supernatural one?
Is that it?
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Don't wanna scare U, but U might need to check your head on X-rays.. Tumors can cause some of these disorders..
I asked for it many times, but I can't since it's not free to all.
I really though I get a desease cause I get many unknown troubles, such as nerve pain without a single reason (scans & X-Ray showed nothing).
I'd like to do an MRI, but they don't want me to...
Maybe they'll be ok when it will be too late. ;|
But, there may be medical reasons for quite a few of the situations you describe. When your brain is having an absence I'm not surprised your consciousness 'leaves' your body (changing its perspective is a better word I guess).. and some of those nighttime adventures may be 'normal' sleepwalking (triggered by the stress of having to finish homework), etc.
I can be ok, but how can you explains I see myself from back top ? I don't have any eyes there.
Plus I wonder if those absences don't make the brain work faster, since you get another view. I mean like for a computer, when you don't print on a screen, a programs work much more faster.
And as computer and brain is the same to me...
So these strange things are still happening to you at certain times right? And you can't find an explanation for them? So you're thinking that the explanation may be a supernatural one?
Not that it is supernatural, but I think it's some science we've never yet dug.
Or it can also be hallucinations/troubles, as I mentionned.
PS: I'd like to add I'm hyper emotional and I often suffer of hypertension (due to emotions).
I guess there is a link, since the hearth is a generator of electricity (the one our body needs).
Another weird thing doctors couldn't understand, is that I had hypertension even under general anesthesia, which seems not to be normal apparently.
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But you said that a laser box floated off the floor and both you and your mate saw it.
What's your guess at an explanation for that?
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Thats crazy. I honestly couldn't read past where your pillow was cut into a cross. Freaked me out.
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I support ramones post, could be dangerous man, I remember I saw this movie bout a guy who that had like superpowers and stuff but after he realize it was all his imagination and weird coincidences, sad shit is doctor found a tumor and guy died ;S
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Hmm, Ugo, watch X-Men, it'll explain everything xD
Serious now, some weird things happen to me too but I don't need to discuss them.
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Weird things happen, but everything has a logical explanation. There is no god, there is no higher power, there are no zombies, there is no life after death, there are no supernatural things.
You know what's real? Economy, politics f@#!ing up every single day of your life, you have to go to work, if you drink you get drunk... Come on, be a little sensible and don't watch that much Fringe.
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What's your guess at an explanation for that?
I don't believe in collective hallucinations (I mean yeah, it could happen since there is relation between different people minds, but I don't believe it was one).
I just think we can control magnetism (we all have a magnetism area around our body), so me or him did that imo.
It could be stupid, since it's just a comic, but you should read Thorgal.
The autor talks a lot of atom disassemblin, and all that stuff (plus the comic is one of the best I've ever read, so it worths it. :p It's a bit on scandinavian mythology too).
And I kindda believe everything of what he said, 'cause it's logic.
In fact - I could regret it - but I'm sure it is.
I heard too much things which could be explained with magnetism:
Neurons are used by a transfer of electricity. Which means we could highly develop our capabilities.
There are electicity relations between atoms (electrons etc). Which means we could disassemble them
There is magnetism area everywhere. Which means we could move objects just by a game of magnetism. Also, we could transfer electricity by them, which could explains why some people get mind relation at some times and why we react on radio waves ('cause we catches them).
Have you heard the explanation of the sporting bracelet people gets (the one for the equilibrium) ? I don't know if it's a joke or not, but there again, magnetism is involved (I couldn't support this theory since I know nothing about the metal it contains, but as it works with my though, I'll believe them).
Do not forget we use only few % of our brain and we already did what we see everyday, so what if we could use the whole 100% ?
We get the chance to have a body which can change itself according to the needed.
I have no evidences at all, but it's what I believe on (until someone or I prooves the contrary).
To finish, as I heard from people and some documentaries, teenagers are often subject of such weird things.
I wish I could have the stuff to make researches, it's so passionating.
It could be one of the biggest advance in the history of the humanity.
Serious now, some weird things happen to me too but I don't need to discuss them.
Teleportation has always been my dream, and it could be a first step in this direction.
Plus I can't leave with sucha past without doing anything, I get searches in veins.
I NEED to know, even if I must die to.
This is just a difference of opinion.
But please, tell us what happenned to you, it could help me.
I support ramones post, could be dangerous man, I remember I saw this movie bout a guy who that had like superpowers and stuff but after he realize it was all his imagination and weird coincidences, sad shit is doctor found a tumor and guy died ;S
If it's the way it will be going: since I can't do examinations, then I don't mind.
But I personnaly think that if I really have a tumor or a stuff like that, and all this was real, then it would mean the tumor could have been responsible of this. And there, I would be so happy cause we could get a base to start researches.
In the case I really have a tumor and all this wasn't real (well some were, since it was material), as I said, I won't regret it since I couldn't leave it with a single chance this can be true.
PS: I forgot to mention that when I was young again. After waking up, I had a face in my mind and I couldn't know why. And then I saw it - exactly the same - the afternoon in the street.
Since then, everytime I had a face or a body in mind when I woke up, I was waiting to see it in real life, and it happenned almost everytime.
Note that there is nothing to do with the brain reset (about believing we know someone just when we see it), cause it was far earlier before I first met the person.
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Weird things happen, but everything has a logical explanation. There is no god, there is no higher power, there are no zombies, there is no life after death, there are no supernatural things.
I guess you didn't understand what the thread is on.
I know everything as a logical explanation (I gave some possibilities in my previous thread), but THIS is true.
You call it supernatural, but it's NOT, it's just we don't know the reasons !
And I don't really care about politics etc, my way is science.
PS: How can you know all of this ? I personnaly think there is none of that stuff, but you'll never see me saying such things, since I don't know.
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Do not forget we use only few % of our brain and we already did what we see everyday, so what if we could use the whole 100% ?
We use 100% of our brain.
Do some research "10% brain myth".
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feew years ago when i was in my summer house near the lake, i was lying on bed and one momment i had that pretty scary feeling like i suddenly saw some wierd character next to my bed it was pretty dark kinda dressed in black or something and with really strange head, i stopped breathing and felt like petrified, but it disappeared as quick as appeared, there was also my brother in the opposite side of the room but he didint noticed anything, i didint even told anything about that coz i felt soo wierd and scared, but never happened again
that 1 time i was sauber coz it was long ago, i had also commons feelings like u but on drugs hehe but since i could have them intoxicated why not u with ur wierd trouble ;p
about hearing debates, it was after mdma, i was in my house with friends and took some blabla nvm and then when everybody was gone, couple hours later, i felt kinda tired so went to bed,
closed eyes and started trying to go sleep, and suddenly i feel like im awake and just in momments before when there was still my friends and i was feeling like we were still talking to each other and doing things like smoking ciggs or changing tunes on pc, and woah im awake again and wtf im alone in bed so again i close eyes try to go sleep, and again i feel like couple hours ago and after few momments i wake in bed again, wooord :D
about that living the body i felt that once after DXM destroyer of the mind hehe i was staying on wooden playground kinda above the ground, and in one momment i felt like i was starting to see myself like in gta2 but getting higher and farer and finally i felt like i was in some kind of emptiness like that chamber in dragon ball where 1 day was 1 year, there was nothing next to me but i was feeling i am very high and i can fall down in anytime and suddenly i started to feel im faaling doown really fast and felt again to my real location.
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@Cue:
Well, too much people though of it ages ago, there must have been a reason.
Maybe they weren't talking of the brain itself, but his functions.
Anyway, we can develop our brain, and there is no ceiling known.
And I feel like weed can help doing it. I sometimes get incredible find when I'm under weed, but everytime I start to get one, I try to repeat it as much as possible to not forget it, but it leaves me everytime.
I'm currently trying to keep it in mind (I went from 0.5sec to some minutes now), to finally know if it's dumb thoughs or real good ones. But it is pretty hard...
@Theredi:
I think you're right about the self made troubles (I told it in my first post) about those presences.
I would so much get a reason to those weird things that my mind made this "ghost". At least it's the only logic explanation I found.
About the drugs time, it was drugs. ;)
PS: I also often though I suffered of schizophrenia. Which could also explain this presence I felt.
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ofcourse im aware of it, but there are also deseases which can cause something that will make u feel like after these drugs so u dont need to take them to feel like i did
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Poltergeist maybe? :O
Seriously now, this is all weird stuff that's happening to you, but don't just make wild assumptions and dive in esotheric comics just yet :/
No, your brain can't develop. Neural tissues and neural-connections develop in early childhood, after that the neural cells have a hard time to repair damage that is caused to your body. Take broken neck for example, if spinal chord could repair itself like for example bone tissue, people could walk again after such accidents, but as you know it rarely happens.
No, heart doesn't generate electricity to drive the body. The heart itself is driven by electrical signals, yes, but those signals come from electrical potential difference between Na+ and Cl- concentrations on either sides of heart cell membranes and bla bla bla, you see, there's medical explanation for that... The magnitude of that electricity is too smal to influence electrical devices. (less than 30 mA of current runs through the heart - D1 correct me where I'm wrong, please :) )
We all experienced moonwalking, I believe, not so sure about floating objects, hehe. If I were you, I'd visit one of those, you know, funny women, who see things and can talk to other side... I'm not kidding, I'm sure I would! :) It may not help you, but at least you could maybe get some ansers. But first, nag your doctor to do something and dunno, visit a shrink?
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No, your brain can't develop. Neural tissues and neural-connections develop in early childhood, after that the neural cells have a hard time to repair damage that is caused to your body. Take broken neck for example, if spinal chord could repair itself like for example bone tissue, people could walk again after such accidents, but as you know it rarely happens.
If your brain can't develop, how can you learn things ?
I maybe used wrong english words to explain myself.
No, heart doesn't generate electricity to drive the body. The heart itself is driven by electrical signals, yes, but those signals come from electrical potential difference between Na+ and Cl- concentrations on either sides of heart cell membranes and bla bla bla, you see, there's medical explanation for that... (D1 correct me where I'm wrong, please :) )
I'll try to find you the sources later.
If I were you, I'd visit one of those, you know, funny women, who see things and can talk to other side...
There maybe is some people able to do so, but most of them are liars, so no thanks.
But first, nag your doctor to do something and dunno, visit a shrink?
Yeah, I guess it's the only way left to advance quickly to the answer.
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If your brain can't develop, how can you learn things ?
I maybe used wrong english words to explain myself.
Developing in a sense to gain new abilities, that's I believe not possible. Ability to learn is given to us when we're born, after the brain is just re-arranging to connections between the existing nerve cells. (something like that, at least)
No, heart doesn't generate electricity to drive the body. The heart itself is driven by electrical signals, yes, but those signals come from electrical potential difference between Na+ and Cl- concentrations on either sides of heart cell membranes and bla bla bla, you see, there's medical explanation for that... (D1 correct me where I'm wrong, please :) )
I'll try to find you the sources later.
I'm really interested what you'll come up with, hehe.
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For some, putting a seed to the ground and letting it grow to be a nutritious potato is just a normal thing that is part of life, but for some it can be the most teaching thing about divine power and it's limitless potential which I think we're never able to fully understand.
I've been very interested (sometimes even to the point of psychosis) of things most of us call "mystical" after my personal encounter with Ayahuasca.
Ayahuasca is very sacred brew which contains DMT and it's known for healing deep subconscious issues and also being really visionary and life-changing experience. For me this was the point that "mystical" things became "new and normal" things to explore.
For those who are truly interested going deep into how this everything might work, I'd suggest reading "My big Theory Of Everything" by Thomas Campbell (My big TOE), you can read it free @ google books.
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Ability to learn is given to us when we're born
What if we all get those abilities, but we don't know how to use them ? It's just my opinion on the subject.
I can't find anymore the link I found were it was clearly showed with images etc (if you know a way to find it back using the historic, let me know :P ), but well, I found this..: http://membres.multimania.fr/tpecardio/accccard.htm
It's in french, but it talks of exchanges of Na K & Ca in the "cardiomyocytes" (what you said).
Anyway, let's go back to the subject.
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:)
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Did you watch her talk Rammie? Pretty crazy shit.
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Did you watch her talk Rammie? Pretty crazy shit.
Ye, the whole thing..
Pretty interesting crazy stuff, yah..
Human brain looks like a big spermatozoon when she took it in her hands.. I remember that.. ;x
Left and right side..
World of neverending possibilities..
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For those who are truly interested going deep into how this everything might work, I'd suggest reading "My big Theory Of Everything" by Thomas Campbell (My big TOE), you can read it free @ google books.
Could you link me please mate?
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So anybody gets rational explanations about the rest (admitting the firsts are true) ?.. :/
(You didn't say a word Cue, what did you keep for yourself !? >.< )
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For those who are truly interested going deep into how this everything might work, I'd suggest reading "My big Theory Of Everything" by Thomas Campbell (My big TOE), you can read it free @ google books.
Could you link me please mate?
http://books.google.com/books?id=RYHtBPiZVgsC&lpg=PA1&dq=thomas%20campbell%20My%20big%20Theory%20Of%20Everything&hl=nl&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Can you tell us a bit what's talking about Free ? Just to know if it worths to read it. ;|
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I have it as .pdf and I uploaded it for you guys.
http://www.easy-share.com/1915329956/my%20big%20toe.pdf
Abnaxus, it's a one mans theory about everything, diving into "mystical realms" as well this physical reality.
It can be life-changing read, check it out and see if you like it for yourself.
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By the way dudes, I was like one of the biggest non believer (about weird stuff) in the world when I was young (just like some are: only coincidences, only real explanations).
At least until I lived all those things I quoted on my first post.
Since then, I have been kindda lost: now, I need to find the truth (worth my life for).
So you shouldn't be so rude, or I hope you'll live that kind of things too.
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I am also a big fan of the paranormal.
Just like you Abnaxus, if there was undeniable evidence in paranormal effects such as esp, or moving objects with the mind then I could quickly change my position and accept tham as true.
Let's start with human experiences such as yours. Humans have strange experiences. We are left with a lot of stories.
I'm not saying that these experiences are all wrong and that these things didn't happen, but to get to the truth you can't rely on stories alone. They might be wrong. Studies in memory really do show that our memories are very very capable of being inaccurate, especially over long periods of time.
So where do we go now? Well, how about science.
Paranormal research has been going on for a good 100 years. Gary Schwartz is just one of the big names in parapsychological research of recent years. Rupert Sheldrake is another. He recently did studies on dogs which 'know' when their owners are coming home. He also did studies on whether people know if they're being watched / stared at.
In my mind, so far, paranormal research has not produced convincing proof of the supernatural / paranormal.
But as you can read, I am ready to embrace such possibilities.
Also, I might add. I experienced a hypnogogic hallucination which was as real as anything. It freaked me out. No wonder people believe in the paranormal when our brains can create such convincing illusions.
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Is anyone here interested in UFOs, weird creatures (not just Bigfoot) and such? ^^
Sorry for Off-Topic but maybe we can make a new Thread if there is interest.
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He also did studies on whether people know if they're being watched / stared at.
If you'll enter my room or call me on phone when I'm sleeping, I'll wake up at least 30sec before it happens. Everytime.
Also, if you point somewhere on my skin with a laser, I'll feel a heat at the focused place.
That's why watching the brain activity during those actions would be interesting. To see what is reacting.
Do you guys know any place where you can do such experimentations ?
I don't like the word of paranormal, since I think there is a rational explanation of it (but it still is real, not an hallucination or anything like that).
If we call paranormal everything we don't understand, then nvm. :)
Anyway, thanks for those names, I'll start my researches with their works.
PS: That's what I said, either I'm insane, or I was witness of really strange things.
In any case, I need to find the truth. <.<
PSS: I have a do-able experimentation in mind, I'll give you the results as soon as it will be over.
PSSS: Anu, I guess there could be such things.
We are born on a earth in a certain galaxy.
Nothing proove a such thing couldn't have happenned in other galaxies.
So yeah, I do believe there is somewhere in the universe other kinds of "humanity".
Even maybe they were long time ago and they did incredible finds in science (also with different materials), so they could travel to our planet and let some traces of their passage.
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If you'll enter my room or call me on phone when I'm sleeping, I'll wake up at least 30sec before it happens. Everytime.
Well this should be incredibly easy to test. Forget entering your room because there are all kinds of audio cues which could give you warning that someone was approaching. The phone however is easily testable.
You're saying that you have psychic powers.
Considering it takes as little as 5 seconds to connect a phone call. You can predict that someone is going to call you even before they have dialled your number. You will automatically wake up and be ready to take their call.
Is that right?
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You're saying that you have psychic powers.
Nop.
IMO (It's just my theory) the magnetism of the person who'll enter is entering in contact to mine, that's why I get alarmed.
About the phone, it's the contact between the phone waves and my body magnetism.
Anyway, I don't believe in paranormal (psychic powers or whatever), everything has an explanation.
Considering it takes as little as 5 seconds to connect a phone call. You can predict that someone is going to call you even before they have dialled your number. You will automatically wake up and be ready to take their call.
Is that right?
Yeah, if I could react fast enough when I'm during the sleeping->awake phase (which is not the case, I'm totally lost when I wake up).
But anyway, when I wake up, I can't know if it's 'cause someone will enter, someone will call, or 'cause I just woke up.
I feel like I've not sleep when I wake up (from 7h of sleep time to 15h, is the same, but all this only when I'm home), I don't know if there is a relation between this and the alarm thing.
Plus, I almost lived all my life in my house (except the work times and some "parties"), so I maybe made some marks in it (but do not forgive it's just theories).
Have you ever noticed people can be aware of someone talking of them even very far away ?
I first though it was coincidences when it happenned, but it happens too much to be so.
I forgot to mention that protons and electrons are connected by a relation of electromagnetism.
So maybe our body is just like atoms, our magnetism has different charges (I have no proofs, it's just suppositions), which could explain why when 2 people comes near eachother, there is a "kick" (you can feel it even if he comes from back).
The same kind of electrons exchange there is between 2 atoms.
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If you'll enter my room or call me on phone when I'm sleeping, I'll wake up at least 30sec before it happens. Everytime.
But 30 seconds (at least) before you are called on the phone, doesn't that mean that your 'intuition' kicks in before any phone waves are present?
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As mentioned in "My Big TOE" you can have objective results with subjective experience in the "non-material physical reality" so it can be applicable and useful for one in the "physical reality" also.
It's all really scientific in My Big TOE, so whoever is interested should really read this book. Start of the book can be quite boring, but it get's AMAZING as the book goes on.
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Kept out of the thread cause of business :)
No, your brain can't develop. Neural tissues and neural-connections develop in early childhood, after that the neural cells have a hard time to repair damage that is caused to your body. Take broken neck for example, if spinal chord could repair itself like for example bone tissue, people could walk again after such accidents, but as you know it rarely happens.
No, heart doesn't generate electricity to drive the body. The heart itself is driven by electrical signals, yes, but those signals come from electrical potential difference between Na+ and Cl- concentrations on either sides of heart cell membranes and bla bla bla, you see, there's medical explanation for that... The magnitude of that electricity is too smal to influence electrical devices. (less than 30 mA of current runs through the heart - D1 correct me where I'm wrong, please :) )
Well, there's this thing called plasticity in our brain, which is the creation of new neural pathways :) I saw you mentioned something of that order in a later post. And then there are still a couple of pluripotent stem cells inside our brains (near the ventricles) that are still capable of migrating through the brain and even developing into neurons themselves.
However, it rarely causes regeneration of brain tissue. (though we do see people recover from strokes, exacerbations of multiple sclerosis, guillain-barré etcetera)
I'm not sure about the height of the current, but I wouldn't be surprised if you were spot on :)
At any rate, the potentials involved with neural tissue and heart tissue is minimal; in ECG, we rarely see potentials higher than 20 mV, so I don't think the magnetic field you develop is high enough to cause telekinesis. If it were, it would make compasses useless, since your body throws it off.
You might be interested in Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, though. It's something they were researching in treating depression, though it's been a long while since I heard of it. No idea if it has positive effects, though as far as I recall, the results were encouraging.
There's not a lot I can say about your experiences though, it's not something I was actively involved in, though absences in earlier life sounds like something that could fit with epilepsy. Since I have no idea how these episodes happened, I can't give any definite opinion on it.
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i dont exist.
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Also, if you point somewhere on my skin with a laser, I'll feel a heat at the focused place.
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U don't have to consider that strange because it's a common thing. I've also felt that and some of my friends did too.. Lasers do that..
Well, at least it's 1 mystery less! ;)
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i dont exist.
sorry i exist XD
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i dont exist.
That is so deep! :)
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But 30 seconds (at least) before you are called on the phone, doesn't that mean that your 'intuition' kicks in before any phone waves are present?
Well, 30sec is what I feel. But as I said, when I wake up, I'm kindda lost, even in time.
Experimentation could tell us how much exactly, but I can't do it without stuff. :/
U don't have to consider that strange because it's a common thing. I've also felt that and some of my friends did too.. Lasers do that..
Well, at least it's 1 mystery less! ;)
Great, but isn't it about feeling electromagnetic waves ?
Anyway, I'm talking about my experiences ('cause I have only them as example), but if my theory is true, we all can live those.
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To delete. <.<
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I can speak finnish, I dedicate my life for trying to understand how I am able to do that.
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We are like a computer.
If you give him a word and his translation, he'll keep it in his memory, and he'll be able to call it back anywhen.
It's the same for the human. :P
If you want a real description with medicine words etc, ask D1. :p
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When my Grandfather died, I was staying the night at my uncles, halfway through the night, the phone rings, I just knew right there and started crying, even before someone answered the phone, unfortunately, I turned out to be right, my Grandfather had died...
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When my Grandfather died, I was staying the night at my uncles, halfway through the night, the phone rings, I just knew right there and started crying, even before someone answered the phone, unfortunately, I turned out to be right, my Grandfather had died...
And?
(sorry for your loss obviously)
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I think Komo is saying he knew what the phone conversation was about even before anyone had answered the phone.
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I think Komo is saying he knew what the phone conversation was about even before anyone had answered the phone.
Yeah, I know. And?
Not being flippant or anything.
I remember the same happening to me some years ago. Elderly relatives, phone call in the middle of the night (usually bad news). It's not psychic powers to expect something ain't right.
Again, I'm not trying to belittle the event as it must have been a poignant moment.
:<
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There are strange links between family members.
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We are like a computer.
If you give him a word and his translation, he'll keep it in his memory, and he'll be able to call it back anywhen.
It's the same for the human. :P
If you want a real description with medicine words etc, ask D1. :p
Well, yes and no :) I think people don't remember as such, but make associations with something. A computer, you can just tell it to remember something and it'll tell you literally what it told you if you ask it to. But our memory doesn't quite work like that, we basically build up a story that helps us remember facts (mnemonics, though to be fair, I had to google that word ;D).
But the way our memory works is in more than one way a blessing; this thought pattern allows us to make new conclusions and make up new ideas because we're not bound to whatever it is that was taught to us.
For instance, (Boring physics here! Skip this paragraph if you're not interested :)) Newton and his theory of gravity was used to explain the orbits of the planets around the sun and they all fit perfectly! (very awesome considering he had to invent a new kind of math independantly of Leibnitz and didn't have sensitive equipment like we have now). Except for Mercury! The calculations were slightly off for some reason. Until we got to Einstein: his relativity theory allowed new calculations and his alteration of Newtonian physics made the orbital calculations of Mercury fit the data we measured.
A computer would've gotten stuck because the data doesn't match the calculations and never would've found out the theory of relativity.
Well, Komo, your phone story isn't as weird as some of the weird stories I've witnessed surrounding people's death. But it's an emotional time and leaves a big impact. Your granddad was doing badly. You were staying over at your uncle's for being close to him and at the time, everything you did was focused on your granddad. A phone call in the middle of the night simply has to be about your granddad (especially considering it's a very strange time to call for anyone else).
But there's something I can't explain about these end of life stories. Quite creepy how people can feel things out. Perhaps there are little details in someone's expression of perhaps a new scent we wouldn't even notice, I don't know. And it's not just family either, but I can't place my finger on where the changes are.
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Great, but isn't it about feeling electromagnetic waves ?
Anyway, I'm talking about my experiences ('cause I have only them as example), but if my theory is true, we all can live those.
Yes, it is about feeling electromagnetic waves. I mean, lasers do emits electromagnetic radiation, that's why U feel the heat..
I don't know which laser have U used, but I've tried with green pointer laser (usually used for star pointing by amateur astronomers) and I've felt the heat too..
There are different power lasers. These pointers have power of smth as 5 mW (milliwatt) and there are military (weapon) lasers which have powers up to 100 kW (kilowatts) and even more..
Anyway, everyone interested in this subject which refers to a brain itself, should watch that video which Cue and I was mentioning few posts back:
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When you don't pay attention to what she is saying, she looks like an insane old women. xD [HS Off]
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D1, my Grandfather wasn't doing badly, he was in great shape, I was staying with my uncle because my parents were on holiday, was night before they were coming back.
Cue, phone calls in the middle of the night don't usually mean news THIS bad, but yes, it's a common thing but considering I was 11 years old at the time, I was too young to have proper knowledge of life and death didn't completely understand really anything I do now, so, being 11, it was common for me to see phonecalls like this, it was the 1st time in my life after all.
But I was very close to my Grandfather, propably closer to him than my Mum and Dad, for being a kid, I don't know why or how I knew, but I always tell myself that in his final moments he was thinking about me, and maybe that's it...
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D1, my Grandfather wasn't doing badly, he was in great shape, I was staying with my uncle because my parents were on holiday, was night before they were coming back.
Cue, phone calls in the middle of the night don't usually mean news THIS bad, but yes, it's a common thing but considering I was 11 years old at the time, I was too young to have proper knowledge of life and death didn't completely understand really anything I do now, so, being 11, it was common for me to see phonecalls like this, it was the 1st time in my life after all.
But I was very close to my Grandfather, propably closer to him than my Mum and Dad, for being a kid, I don't know why or how I knew, but I always tell myself that in his final moments he was thinking about me, and maybe that's it...
Why were you awake in the middle of the night at 11 years old?
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D1, my Grandfather wasn't doing badly, he was in great shape, I was staying with my uncle because my parents were on holiday, was night before they were coming back.
Cue, phone calls in the middle of the night don't usually mean news THIS bad, but yes, it's a common thing but considering I was 11 years old at the time, I was too young to have proper knowledge of life and death didn't completely understand really anything I do now, so, being 11, it was common for me to see phonecalls like this, it was the 1st time in my life after all.
But I was very close to my Grandfather, propably closer to him than my Mum and Dad, for being a kid, I don't know why or how I knew, but I always tell myself that in his final moments he was thinking about me, and maybe that's it...
Why were you awake in the middle of the night at 11 years old?
Cuz I was 11 lol..
Why were you not awake in the middle of the night at 11 years old?
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D1, my Grandfather wasn't doing badly, he was in great shape, I was staying with my uncle because my parents were on holiday, was night before they were coming back.
Cue, phone calls in the middle of the night don't usually mean news THIS bad, but yes, it's a common thing but considering I was 11 years old at the time, I was too young to have proper knowledge of life and death didn't completely understand really anything I do now, so, being 11, it was common for me to see phonecalls like this, it was the 1st time in my life after all.
But I was very close to my Grandfather, propably closer to him than my Mum and Dad, for being a kid, I don't know why or how I knew, but I always tell myself that in his final moments he was thinking about me, and maybe that's it...
Why were you awake in the middle of the night at 11 years old?
Cuz I was 11 lol..
Why were you not awake in the middle of the night at 11 years old?
cos he was 11 lol
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Why were you 11 years old in the middle of the night?
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Why were you 11 years old in the middle of the night?
Why was it the middle of the night when I was 11 years old?
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why when u were 11 years old u were in the middle of night?
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why when u were 11 years old u were in the middle of night?
I was almost 12 !
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Ahhhh.
Yeah looking back at my 11 year old days I was always pulling all nighters.
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Well, since I can remember i've been staying up as late as I can, I literally can't sleep well during the night, thats why I work nightshift lol...
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Is it a problem to be awake in the middle of the night at 11 years old ?
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Is it a problem to be awake in the middle of the night at 11 years old ?
Generally parents and guardians enforce bedtimes on children this young.
Most 11 year olds would either be asleep in the middle of the night, or at least be in bed and pretending to be asleep! Unless it was a sleepover of course.
Or did I just get stuck with annoying strict parents / relatives?
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Nope Cue, it used to be the same for me. I think I was forced to go to bed at 9pm until age 14 or so. :)
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I've started to smoke when I was 11 yrs and I'm still smoking with the full capacity of my lungs.. It has been 21 yrs till then, and I still enjoy smoking.. I smoke smth like 3 packs in 1 day..
Shit, wrong topic again! ;x
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Or did I just get stuck with annoying strict parents / relatives?
Does not mean every parents are like that. ^^
I personnaly was watching TV with my dad until 1am (watching the old "Experts" xP) - in a cig smoke aquarium.
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I personnaly was watching TV with my dad until 1am (watching the old "Experts" xP) - in a cig smoke aquarium.
Well, not many parents are like that. :o
My parents chased me in bed at 9pm, at least until I was about 12.
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You are all on drugs or summin LOL I never even said I wasn't in bed... xD
I was, btw lol... But the phone was f@#!ing loud, I can't help waking up to it lol...
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Anyway Abnaxus.
Earlier you were talking about the phenomenon of waking up at least 30 seconds before someone calls you on a phone or approaches your room. You said you would wake up everytime. You also had other experiences which have led you to believe that you are hypersensitive to mobile phones, people and other generators of what you call 'magnetism'.
I had this idea for a test protocol which based on your claims should be pretty easy to accomplish. See what you think.
You sit in the middle of a room and there are 4 screens which you can't see through. One in front of you, one behind, one to the left and one to the right. Behind each screen is a mobile phone. The screens should be high enough to hide the phone completely from view but low enough so that the 'magnetism' can reach you from where you are sitting.
The 'caller' sits in another room with a 4 sided dice; each number on the dice corresponds to one of the 4 mobile phones behind the screens.
Every minute the caller rolls the dice and makes a call to the corresponding phone and lets the phone ring for 10 seconds each time; writing down the sequence as he goes.
Each minute you write down which phone you think is ringing based on the magnetism which is obviously very real to you.
Do this for 10 minutes. (perhaps it would be a good idea to synchronise watches so you keep in time and are 100% focused at the right time)
Compare the actual sequence to your sequence.
Obviously the phones should be on silent and faced down so that there are no visual indications of which phone is ringing (light, flashing leds etc). You should also wear a blindfold so only the flow of 'magnetism' can influence your judgement.
If you feel this would be a suitable test protocol or at least a good start for discussing one in more detail then let me know.
We could look to having a semi-formal test arranged by a third party if your claims are genuine. I have no doubt that there will be some groups in your area interested by your claims who could assist.
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It's not if I could control it. <.<
Plus, it's only from sleep to awake time.
But this test might be interesting anyway.
I'm not sure I'll be able to use four phones, but at least 2 would be a nice start.
If it works, I'll grow the number of phones (if I can find more for sure).
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It's not if I could control it. <.<
Plus, it's only from sleep to awake time.
But this test might be interesting anyway.
I'm not sure I'll be able to use four phones, but at least 2 would be a nice start.
If it works, I'll grow the number of phones (if I can find more for sure).
Oh. So it only works when you're asleep?
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As already said, yeah.
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As already said, yeah.
Yeah but you also said it affected you while you were awake when the laser box lifted off the floor.
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Was it me about the laser box ? Could have been my mate. ;)
Anyway, I can't make the experimentation until next week (exams).
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Was it me about the laser box ? Could have been my mate. ;)
Anyway, I can't make the experimentation until next week (exams).
What do U mean, U're not sure that U saw the laser box levitate, but your mate did?
That's the second solved mystery?!
I have ideas to solve some other of your mysteries too! Maybe cut-crossed pillow comes from someone in your family who tried to do some kind of exorcism to U while U were sleeping!?
maybe someone was praying for U..
maybe..
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I think he's saying that they both saw the laser box levitate but it may have been his mate doing it and not him.
If it was an isolated case then I might agree with this theory. However, Abnaxus claims that this was one of many experiences which definitely happened to him, so surely that can't be the case.
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this was one of many experiences which definitely happened to him, so surely that can't be the case.
Yeah, I went to the same conclusion.
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So apart of levitating laser box, what about the pillow, was it the victim of exorcism? ;o
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He said that the pillowcase was 'cut'. And not torn?
Could have been cut by him during his sleep I guess. Instead of sleep walking he did some sleep cutting.
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By "cut" I meant "torn" yeah.
But it was nicely torn, perfectly straigh.