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Title: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 02, 2016, 11:22 AM
 :'(

It's an ASUS desktop with a AMD A4-6210 processor and 8GB internal memory.

I bought it only 3 or 4 months ago. It was kinda shit right from the start. It had annoying freezes every few mins. At first I thought it was cause the Processor was using up to 90% of its capacity. I killed off McAfee which was using way too much, and that made the 'pauses' become less frequent, but they were still there. It happened sometimes in Worms too, the screen would just freeze for about 20 seconds (making my opponent think i lagged out).

Anyway, right now, it seems the freezes are still there every now and then, but it's become worse cause now it has these moments of 'lag' as well. And where before the sound would stop during the freezes, it now plays on during these little lags. Which causes my music to go 'brrrr durrrr prshsh' before it plays on... in the best scenario, cause sometimes it goes so bad the whole system crashes (the monitor turns off and I have to hold the power to shut the PC down). I'm now at a point where I don't really feel comfy playing music at all anymore cause every few mins it goes to the point where i fear the whole system will crash yet again..

What's the issue here? Why did I get complete system freezes? And why does it now affect the music/sound where it didn't before?

It kinda started with the sound in rocket league going bad (like it had extra bass being played on a cruppy pc speaker). But yeah.

Is it a prob with some drivers? Or is my PC just a piece of crap to begin with? Gosh  >:(

And I mean this lag is everywhere, even in really low-demanding programs (like saving an image in firefox, or saving it in paintshop). Whelp.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Rabbzz on June 02, 2016, 11:24 AM
You think that's bad? You should see Pizza's craptop!  :D
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Aerox on June 02, 2016, 11:28 AM
It's most likely a heat/dirt issue

Open it up and remove all the dust you can, specially from the fans. Use a dust moppet thing or simply toilet paper if you don't have one.

that is of course assuming your software is fine and this ain't all malware

about the sound I have no idea, most likely a broken sound card, try plugging in an external usb one see if it fixes the sound thing if only to identify where the problem is
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 02, 2016, 11:30 AM
hmm, its a new comp, only 3-4 months old as I said, this cant be dust??
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 11:33 AM
Windows + X
Device Manage
- Any devices marked (!) right click.
Update driver Software.
Search Automatically  for updated driver software.

OR use the CD that came with the desktop, and install from there.

If there are no exclamation mark in the device manager section..
START (Windows Logo Bottom Left).
Settings.
Update & Security
Recovery
Reset This PC (Clean Install, delete all)
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: MonkeyIsland on June 02, 2016, 11:34 AM
Download process explorer and check out what's consuming your CPU. It's like windows task manager but with more details.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

Don't forget to run it as administrator. You can right-click and suspend the processes which you are in doubt.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: barman on June 02, 2016, 11:44 AM
Could be a faulty/slow hard drive as well.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 02, 2016, 11:58 AM
Quote from: barman on June 02, 2016, 11:44 AM
Could be a faulty/slow hard drive as well.

Doubt it. I had a broken HDD on my old PC. This one gives no error message for it (nor for any of the drivers@kradie) and you can't hear the HDD in any significant way (as was the case with my old one..). If the HDD is the problem... it's in the very early stage. (this cant be caused by malware in a file transferred from my old comp right??)
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Aerox on June 02, 2016, 12:01 PM
Quote from: HHC on June 02, 2016, 11:30 AM
hmm, its a new comp, only 3-4 months old as I said, this cant be dust??

it can, specially if it's one of those small enclosed towers from asus with no ventilation
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Sensei on June 02, 2016, 12:07 PM
Had similar problem few months ago. PC was freezing and lagging, WA was unplayable at times.
Fixed it with: Ctrl+Alt+Del / Task Manager / Processes / svchost.exe*/ End process.

* - be aware that this was my other svchost.exe running. And it took 3/4 of RAM.. After ending it, PC healed in a sec. So, if you got only one svchost there - don't touch it :)
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 12:08 PM
For a in depth hardware diagnostics acquire the following

Download memtest
http://www.memtest86.com

Boot from USB and run the diagnostics to see if there is any RAM fault.

Secondly get cpuid (It tells you the hardware temperature of your cpu.
http://www.cpuid.com/news/39-hwmonitor-1-28.html

Thirdly, download Prime95
http://www.mersenne.org/download/

Run prime95 and keep an steady eye on the temperature.
Be weary to monitor it or it can affect your hardware.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Triad on June 02, 2016, 12:10 PM
Btw did you uninstall McAfee with it's uninstall software? Even after that sometimes McAfee leaves files, uninstall remaining things with Revo Uninstaller. That programme is shit, even founder of McAfee says so.

Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Aerox on June 02, 2016, 12:36 PM
Quote from: Sensei on June 02, 2016, 12:07 PM
Had similar problem few months ago. PC was freezing and lagging, WA was unplayable at times.
Fixed it with: Ctrl+Alt+Del / Task Manager / Processes / svchost.exe*/ End process.

* - be aware that this was my other svchost.exe running. And it took 3/4 of RAM.. After ending it, PC healed in a sec. So, if you got only one svchost there - don't touch it :)

yeah, you stopped the malware for a while, congratulations
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: nino on June 02, 2016, 03:59 PM
Buy a SSD and do a reinstall on everything.

Using HDD on operation system nowadays is just silly.

Use your HDD as slave, another tip, dont trust on slaves!!!! I tell it by known case cos king!!!!!





Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 04:17 PM
Quote from: nino on June 02, 2016, 03:59 PM
Buy a SSD and do a reinstall on everything.

Using HDD on operation system nowadays is just silly.

Use your HDD as slave, another tip, dont trust on slaves!!!! I tell it by known case cos king!!!!!

No need to say my name, it just overwhelms me.

People still use HDD for their Operating System, it just needs to be at least 7200rpm. So in general, issues like what HHC is experiencing may not necessary be his HDD fault, of course it might be defective and shouldn't be overlooked of course.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: nino on June 02, 2016, 04:30 PM
Quote from: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 04:17 PM
Quote from: nino on June 02, 2016, 03:59 PM
Buy a SSD and do a reinstall on everything.

Using HDD on operation system nowadays is just silly.

Use your HDD as slave, another tip, dont trust on slaves!!!! I tell it by known case cos king!!!!!

No need to say my name, it just overwhelms me.

People still use HDD for their Operating System, it just needs to be at least 7200rpm. So in general, issues like what HHC is experiencing may not necessary be his HDD fault, of course it might be defective and shouldn't be overlooked of course.

Ok sorry.

But even if the HDD is not falty, it is too slow in comparison with SSD then this might be kill a bee with a zoka but anyways xD


btw how many slaves you got? want to exchange? they got all theeth? lets make business!!!
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 05:21 PM
Quote from: nino on June 02, 2016, 04:30 PM
Quote from: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 04:17 PM
Quote from: nino on June 02, 2016, 03:59 PM
Buy a SSD and do a reinstall on everything.

Using HDD on operation system nowadays is just silly.

Use your HDD as slave, another tip, dont trust on slaves!!!! I tell it by known case cos king!!!!!

No need to say my name, it just overwhelms me.

People still use HDD for their Operating System, it just needs to be at least 7200rpm. So in general, issues like what HHC is experiencing may not necessary be his HDD fault, of course it might be defective and shouldn't be overlooked of course.

Ok sorry.

But even if the HDD is not falty, it is too slow in comparison with SSD then this might be kill a bee with a zoka but anyways xD


btw how many slaves you got? want to exchange? they got all theeth? lets make business!!!

Yes this is true, SSD is much faster than a regular HDD. But I just wanted to note that a normal HDD can run an OS fine, but slower obviously.

No slave exchange, sorry :P

Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: nino on June 02, 2016, 05:35 PM
Quote from: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 05:21 PM
Quote from: nino on June 02, 2016, 04:30 PM
Quote from: Kradie on June 02, 2016, 04:17 PM
Quote from: nino on June 02, 2016, 03:59 PM
Buy a SSD and do a reinstall on everything.

Using HDD on operation system nowadays is just silly.

Use your HDD as slave, another tip, dont trust on slaves!!!! I tell it by known case cos king!!!!!

No need to say my name, it just overwhelms me.

People still use HDD for their Operating System, it just needs to be at least 7200rpm. So in general, issues like what HHC is experiencing may not necessary be his HDD fault, of course it might be defective and shouldn't be overlooked of course.

Ok sorry.

But even if the HDD is not falty, it is too slow in comparison with SSD then this might be kill a bee with a zoka but anyways xD


btw how many slaves you got? want to exchange? they got all theeth? lets make business!!!

Yes this is true, SSD is much faster than a regular HDD. But I just wanted to note that a normal HDD can run an OS fine, but slower obviously.

No slave exchange, sorry :P

You f@#!ing fake, a king that does not exchange slaves is not a king!!!!
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 02, 2016, 05:54 PM
well, its not the fan. The heat never goes beyond 68 degreeish. Which seems fine.

Basically i have 2 issues:
1) freezes and laggies, but that was kinda already there.
2) sound shit

At this point just wanna fix the sound..
I tried disabling the sound drivers one by one, but no luck so far, as soon as I got 1 running again the shite's back.
Pretty sure something f@#!ed there.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Mega`Adnan on June 02, 2016, 06:18 PM
Maybe this PC is for Windows XP? :D
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Aerox on June 02, 2016, 06:19 PM
is the sound shuttering only happening when you play a game? does it happen in say, youtube
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 02, 2016, 06:25 PM
everytime the PC is working.. whether its in firefox, in-game or even when its just loading random shit in the background.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Triad on June 02, 2016, 06:52 PM
Imo if you cannot detect what causing all these, backup your important stuff and format your hdd and reinstall OS. Having McAfee before is enough reason to reinstall. ;D
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Sensei on June 02, 2016, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Aerox on June 02, 2016, 12:36 PM
Quote from: Sensei on June 02, 2016, 12:07 PM
Had similar problem few months ago. PC was freezing and lagging, WA was unplayable at times.
Fixed it with: Ctrl+Alt+Del / Task Manager / Processes / svchost.exe*/ End process.

* - be aware that this was my other svchost.exe running. And it took 3/4 of RAM.. After ending it, PC healed in a sec. So, if you got only one svchost there - don't touch it :)

yeah, you stopped the malware for a while, congratulations

I did it months ago and PC is working perfectly since ending that particular process.
If few months means "for a while", I'm ok with that.



Btw HHC, dunno if anyone suggested, but try putting another graphic card on your motherboard. At least I would do that before reinstalling whole OS.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: sock on June 02, 2016, 07:29 PM
Quote from: HHC on June 02, 2016, 11:30 AM
hmm, its a new comp, only 3-4 months old as I said, this cant be dust??

Could be I guess, but I would not think so.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: nino on June 02, 2016, 07:51 PM
That processor fights with Intel core I3 thats really a basic processor and so the machine.

I'd say trash can and buy a decent one is the way  :D

JK ae.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 02, 2016, 10:07 PM
well, it works as before if i disable the sound, but ya... it's quiet.. and lonely without  :'(

This is what it sounds like:

The comments to that movie havent provided me with a fix, so still lookin'  :(
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Aerox on June 02, 2016, 10:17 PM
that's the exact same shuttering I got with NBA 2k16, it lagged the game. The issue was with NVIDA and some sound cards, they never fixed it. A built computer shouldn't have any incompatibilities with its hardware either way. You didn't upgrade to a higher Windows than the one it came with, did you?

Try going to your devices, and under sound, see if you have anything with "HD" in its device name, Radeon HD sound or whatever (it's for the sound that comes out of the HD port, it's usually in the graphic card slot), disable it.

Also does your graphic card have a control panel of sorts? A place where you can enable/disable global features like Vsync and such?

edit: and if you're going to do what Sensei says do it the other way around, always fomat before getting new hardware if your aim is to fix something, you never know if it's just the software and a format is always faster and cheaper.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 03, 2016, 04:43 PM
Some guy in the comments suggested disabling extra sound drivers, but whichever I delete, the sound remains shuttering.

In device manager I have:

Audio inputs and outputs:
=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Sound, video and game controllers:
=AMD High Definition Audio Device
=Realtek High Definition Audio
=HP Webcam HD (I deleted this one, it was something along this line)

Didn't update windows.


Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Kradie on June 03, 2016, 05:29 PM
Uninstall all of them, restart Windows, Windows will them reinstall the drivers automatically.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: ANO on June 03, 2016, 05:58 PM
Well, maybe do all the necessary updates or format and re-install everything from scratch...

Or... Did you check internal temperatures? Maybe it's overheating...
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on June 03, 2016, 11:20 PM
will check temps again tomorrow.

It crashed again, now without any sound enabled. Reinstall incoming if dusty fan aint the prob.

Goddamn piece of shit.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Ytrojan on July 02, 2016, 11:02 PM
This is why you should get Dell!
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: HHC on July 02, 2016, 11:11 PM
Ae, btw freezes are still there, overloading the comp at those moments. Crashes were due to heath, moved cpu downstairs, no crashes nemore.
Title: Re: My comp is a piece of shite..
Post by: Ytrojan on July 03, 2016, 06:51 PM
Quote from: HHC on July 02, 2016, 11:11 PM
Ae, btw freezes are still there, overloading the comp at those moments. Crashes were due to heath, moved cpu downstairs, no crashes nemore.
Play downstairs, then!