Quote from: Kradie on November 01, 2024, 03:47 AMHave you read the book Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl?
I highly recommend
yeah, i've read 'search for meaning' and his other work on logotherapy. the problem with the logotherapy is that it can only get you so far.
Frankl's greatest achievement is "man's search for meaning", indeed, because it outlines how important it is to have meaning (in context of concentration camps, having meaning of life is the difference between life and death). and i agree.
but how
exactly do you find meaning? that's the main weakness of logotherapy
once you've gotten a little into philosophy, there's not much logotherapy can give to you.
the problem is that there is no meaning in the outside world. meaning exists inside people's heads, as a deception, thanks to which they continue to exist. there is no meaning in the real world itself, and in order to have meaning in life, you need to maintain a self-delusion, a lie that meaning is real. depressed people are closest to the truth, because their ability to create mirages of meaning (aka dopamine system) is broken, and they cannot effectively lead themselves into self-deception.
our healthy brains that keeps us happy does so by deceiving ourselves. and i know, this is a hard thought to agree with. but once you understand it, there is no turning back.
how is logotherapy supposed to help with this? well, from the logotherapy point of view, if you can't find the meaning, a logotherapist will give you the meaning (and also antidepressants).
but having received the meaning from the outside, I will not have the responsibility to this meaning, which is what logotherapy comes down to. moreover, if I see that any meanings that seem to appear before my eyes are illusory, I will also see the illusory nature of the meaning of the logotherapist.
of all the existentialists, I liked Camus the most. if Frankl is an apologist for the need for meaning, which is generally obvious, Camus raised the issue of the lack of meaning very well, which was like meeting a kindred spirit for me. the absurd as meaning is also interesting, but in the end, Camus deceived himself too, in order to escape from the trap of meaning.
the problem of meaning is fundamental. things can only acquire meaning from the outside. and we as species can't look "outside" the universe, or ask gods about our purpose.
analytical philosophers even argued that the very formulation of the question of meaning is linguistically incorrect, so such a question should not be asked. but the question is necessary in order to live, and so I disagree.
i have been thinking about this for many years and have found some philosophical tricks that allow one to suppose the existence of meaning without self-deception.
i also think that one can transcend meaning through meditation. and i probably have a lifelong journey ahead of me to find this out