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Other Things => Off Topic => Topic started by: nakra on March 17, 2010, 11:22 PM
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Helloooo,
it's been a while but Crazy told me to say hello so yea, hello ;o
Nice to see some guys around here i even recognize :)
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hello to my biggest elite rival ever
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yoyo :P
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hey shark
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weren't u in pb long time ago on wwp yet?
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Helloooo,
it's been a while but Crazy told me to say hello so yea, hello ;o
Nice to see some guys around here i even recognize :)
Heeey are you sharky ???
Werent you in eN with me ? D:
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weren't u in pb long time ago on wwp yet?
hey dude, he was also german but not this shark from w:a. pbSh4rk from wwp played w:a aswell for a short period although he changed his nick since he noticed there was a shark already (can't remember which nick though)
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why he has -1 at karma ? xDDD!!
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Probably of jealousy, as he owns everyone in elite ???
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Probably of jealousy, as he owns everyone in elite ???
Ey! Don't speak on behalf of all of us super eliters!
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Ey! Don't speak on behalf of all of us super eliters!
Wins one game and thinks he's top of the world ;) :P
Nakra was the first real pro-eliter, one who actually had a plan and executed it with deadly precision.
All good eliters nowadays can only try to match that, not go beyond.
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I'm not talking down about elite legend, but the skill-level is totally different nowadays when talking about the top level eliters compared to old days where a man with the masterplan was rare sight to see in elite game.
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You think it's better now than in Nakra's days?
Like I said, the masterplan came with gigaliga and Nakra. There hasn't been a significant development in elite-playing since.
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There's way more players nowadays that have "cracked the code" than there was in nakra's era, hence the tactical level nakra has - isn't anything special nowadays, meaning I doubt nakra would dominate so badly he dominated back then. Same story with DOPE and MPH, they were considered as legends also because there were only so few that had elite mastered tactic-wise.
All IMO ofcourse.
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Yeh you tell em free, why oh why do people still carry the opinion that a wormer who started playing before another wormer is better than the wormer who started later?
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I dont doubt that he's a skilled player (if you say so), but I hate it when oldschoolers idolise older players to the extent where they believe they are gods and no other player will ever reach the same level, BULLSHIT!
So he had a plan did he? Put it into action did he? Isnt that the point of a turn based strategy? To have a plan and put it into action?
There are more skilled elite players now than there were "back in the day".
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Yeh you tell em free, why oh why do people still carry the opinion that a wormer who started playing before another wormer is better than the wormer who started later?
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I dont doubt that he's a skilled player (if you say so), but I hate it when oldschoolers idolise older players to the extent where they believe they are gods and no other player will ever reach the same level, BULLSHIT!
So he had a plan did he? Put it into action did he? Isnt that the point of a turn based strategy? To have a plan and put it into action?
There are more skilled elite players now than there were "back in the day".
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There are more skilled elite players now than there were "back in the day".
Indeed. Some of our oldschoolers just can't let go of their old sweet times.
Still you can see around this: "It will be never like good old times again".
I bet many of those super legends with the highest possible skill level will be beat easily if they start to play now.
I guess we always forget to compare them in their own time period, not of all times.
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Indeed. Some of our oldschoolers just can't let go of their old sweet times.
Still you can see around this: "It will be never like good old times again".
That's not what I'm saying, au contraire I've often said I like it better on wormnet now than ever before.
I bet many of those super legends with the highest possible skill level will be beat easily if they start to play now.
No... one of the main reasons why I'm still around now is that the skill level is pretty even among the top players. I took a break mostly because there wasn't a single chance I'd win a tourney anymore. There were always like 3 totally unbeatable players in every scheme.. in RR, in Rope, in Elite and even in T17 I needed a whole lot of luck to make it to semi finals.
Nowadays there are no true specialists anymore. However, people are generally better overall, they are more all-round. Previously the best Elite'ers were pretty noob at rope and vice versa. Now everyone plays everything, at a decent skill level too. I like that much better than the huge inequality in skill level of the period when I left.
During the time of Gigaliga, there were players who played over 250 games of Elite in a single month. Naturally these guys were better at it than players now. Same for the RR-scene during RR-kit. It's not a shame to be second to these guys. A balanced competition is far more important IMO.
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I can only speak on roper. I'd consider myself a noob in elite. Ropers in general are nowhere close to the level people were on even 6 years ago. As long as the running league models is to play a bunch of schemes I don't think the gap will ever close. This game is at a different era now where you have to be good at all schemes and it takes away from the skill people can achieve on singular schemes.
So of course ropers "back in the day" are way more skilled then ropers now. Considering the dominant league game being played was roper, this should be common sense.
In old days there were only few who could do ropers without mistakes and be very consistent about it - it was a big deal. Nowadays it's pretty common to play full roper without a single fall or big mistake.
And when it comes to HHC's opinion: I'm sure that top eliters in older days wouldn't be anything special nowadays, they would be easily beatable.
It's just my opinion naturally, but until someone actually proves me wrong, I'm gonna stick to my opinion.
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In old days there were only few who could do ropers without mistakes and be very consistent about it - it was a big deal. Nowadays it's pretty common to play full roper without a single fall or big mistake.
And when it comes to HHC's opinion: I'm sure that top eliters in older days wouldn't be anything special nowadays, they would be easily beatable.
It's just my opinion naturally, but until someone actually proves me wrong, I'm gonna stick to my opinion.
I think you have miss-remembered.
Ok, so what do you base your opinion to? If people could rope without mistakes back then, and do it today, what's there to compare?
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Well that's not even an "valid" argument. If we were to compare just "my experience" vs "your experience" without valid arguments - well then it becomes just a big pile of random bullshit.
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Spoken like a true noob
Theres really only a small number of genuine idiots on worms, and your one of them.
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Hi there, nakra!
I suggest the oldschool vs newschool discussion is continued in a seperate thread and flaming is continued on messengers or through personal messages. Agreed?
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Spoken like a true noob
Theres really only a small number of genuine idiots on worms, and your one of them.
;D
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lol at wars about oldschool vs new school over shark just saying hi.
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Well that's not even an "valid" argument. If we were to compare just "my experience" vs "your experience" without valid arguments - well then it becomes just a big pile of random bullshit.
You are absolutely right. I don't believe there can be any valid arguments on this subject. Cheers.
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I'm just saying hi and you make up a dick comparison about oldschool vs newschool.
It's an endless discussion so just stop. Experience ;)
hey chicken, hcc. up for a game? ^^
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Guaton > oldschool thats all :P
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Guaton > oldschool thats all :P
El Guatón Loyola
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how the hell did YOU get that song LMFAO XDDDDD!!
its a nice "cueca" xDD! :D!
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You guys are mixing shit up, the elite scheme competition was much more fierce when nakra and sCa was an active clan than it is today.
Don't bring the DOPE and MPH stuff into this, that was way before and it's true elite hadn't even been perfected at that time.
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Yeah ropa but why is there disrespect for the older players? All the old players used to teach and pass/share their tips n tricks, and basically these newer players are basically saying "I think I am better than you now, f@#! you, k thx."
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Hello Nakra, I can't wait to see you in action! :)
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Hmm who was it that was going on about the "new blood" for WA? I agree with that, we need them :)
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Yeah ropa but why is there disrespect for the older players? All the old players used to teach and pass/share their tips n tricks, and basically these newer players are basically saying "I think I am better than you now, f@#! you, k thx."
this website has always been seen, even if they are not directly advertising it that way, as a place were new blood can come strong against what's stablished from the past.
Many of the members here like to do a differentiation at any given chance, most likely because many of the current community, who have been at one given point or another bashed for their attitude have found refugee here with people who are like them, and thus the hate only grows.
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Hey Shark.
<-- Breeze
=D
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hey shark! if your gonna be active, come to mm :D
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Ropa bringing back old topic avi, shark`s gone xD Anyway, I believe the skillevel of the best eliters today is higher then the level the best eliters from the past obtained. Why? Cause IBB said so, four years ago!
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lol @ almost 1.5y old topic.
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hahahah did not even notice!! o well, if he does come back hes welcome to mm!!
hes a dt mate! ;D