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Offline HHC

Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« on: July 30, 2015, 12:09 PM »
Via: http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/332773/Team+17+on+Worms+WMD%2C+tanks%2C+buildings%2C+and+the+new+worm/

edit: screenshots at the bottom!

We take a world exclusive first look at Worms WMD and talk with Team 17's creative manager Kevin Carthew about what's new in the next entry in the multiplayer series.

There's several new noteworthy features coming in this iteration, with the most notable among them being the new vehicles that players will be able to drive around the maps. The studio were, however, keen to maintain balance and make sure that the tanks weren't overpowered.

"We didn't want the vehicles to necessarily be a fore[gone] conclusion, as in, you get into the tank, you've won the game," Carthew explained.

"It fires a barrage of shells, it's quite hard to concentrate the tank's fire. There's an element of skill involved. Sometimes it makes more sense to use one of the game's existing weapons, so we're keeping that balance of strategy in the game."

Another interesting new feature, and one that will certainly come into its own during online matches, is the new enterable buildings:

"They act like mini-fortresses," the man from Team 17 explained. "So again it's an area of the landscape that I'd say plays to the strategic strengths of the game. If you get inside a building, your worms that are inside the building are hidden from view to everybody outside the building."

Worms games have, over the years, all looked fairly similar, and while WMD won't stray too far from what we're used to, there are going to be a few visual changes.

"The game is all 2D. Of course it's all-new artwork, beautiful, high-definition. Everything is a hand-crafted digital painting," Carthew told us.

"The approach for creating the landscapes hasn't really changed since the very first version of worms... We wanted the random landscape generator, which is a big part of Worms, to always look like it was presenting a hand-drawn piece of art, and so we took a completely different approach for this."

It's not just the background that has changed, as WMD will see the first character redesign for a while. "This new worm, he's all new, he is a redesign. We're looking for something that looks a bit more contemporary, something that looks a bit more modern."

"The two art styles are purposefully contrasting; the landscape looks like hand painted images, the worm looks a lot simpler, clean lines. He's a little bit more angular. And that's intentionally done because it makes it visually more easy to read for the player. It's obvious what should be the landscape, and what are the interactive elements."

Worms WMD is heading to PC and Xbox One (first)



When we asked creative manager Kevin Carthew whether it's WMD or Weapons of Mass Destruction, he put us straight, it's just an acronym, the new game from Team 17 is called Worms WMD, plain and simple. With their latest offering the studio is trying to channel the spirit of Worms: Armageddon, with that entry in the long-running series (it's twenty years old now!) identified as a genuine highlight and fan favourite worth drawing from.

Worms has enjoyed a steady evolution over the years, and it's appeared on most consoles in some form or another. We all have our own stories about how we got started with the franchise, memories of a title that excels in social environments, the archetypal party game if you like. We're playing the new build of WMD at Team 17's Wakefield office and in-between concrete donkeys and exploding sheep, we're sharing our respective histories with the game, whether it be collecting old boxed editions on PC, or passing a PSOne controller around a room full of people in front of a small twelve inch screen that was as deep as it was wide. In a way that very few franchises can genuinely say with any authority, this is a bonafide classic, a series bordering on gaming institution.

While there was plenty of laughter, competitive banter, and more wasted turns that we'd care to admit, during our hands-on demo we didn't actually get to see much in the way of variety. Procedural level generation, a series staple, isn't up and running in this build so all the games we played were on the same map. We did get to see the new artwork, and we were told how they've changed the way they construct levels to accommodate the new art assets. Simply put, it's the best looking game in the series to date, with a revised worm design (the first in years, the new design drawing inspiration from anarchic cartoon characters like Ren & Stimpy and their more contemporary peers), more variety in each level, and more interesting environments to wage war across.

Where before, under the surface of each stage, the land mass was just coloured-in with a specific background pattern, now the whole level will be made of new hand-drawn assets. It's a subtle change, and it doesn't alter the flavour of the matches per se, it simply makes for a better looking, more visually stimulating level. Via a brief video presentation where they demoed the procedural generation of maps using the specific art assets on display during our demo (broken buildings, smashed concrete, wreckage - see below), we were shown how the revised code is making sure that the new assets are dispersed appropriately and that there's some method to the madness.

Elsewhere, much is as you'd expect it to be given that straying too far from the roots of the series would be the equivalent of hitting kamikaze in a game; unhealthy for all concerned. WMD is full 2D, there's no mucking about here. This is a back-to-basics offering, built on top of a new game engine with a handful of changes that will hopefully accentuate the atmosphere rather than unbalance the experience for seasoned veterans.

One new feature that will change things up a little is the tanks and turrets. There might well be more vehicles in the game, but all we saw during the demo were tanks. Hopping tanks, no less. They provide a handy protective shield, although they also make for a popular target. They didn't feel too overpowered, and so grabbing one shouldn't be a surefire route to victory. It's the same with turrets, but their lack of mobility makes them a less appealing option.

Perhaps the most interesting change is the new buildings, and in online multiplayer they'll make a big difference. Now structures are enterable, their internal compositions only visible to those on the inside. In a local game of course the advantage is lessened, as your opponents simply need to remember where you stopped once you've gone inside. Online, however, the anonymity afforded by slinking indoors could create interesting moments, surprise attacks for those with the patience to wait for the right moment to strike, as well as shelter from incoming explosions.

We only got to see a singular weapon set, but one thing included that Team 17 were keen to highlight was the ninja rope. It sounds like they're working to make sure this popular tool is up to scratch for this iteration. We also got to play around with some of the classic Worms weapons during our hands-on, with farting grannies, holy hand grenades, and super sheep lining up alongside regulars that include banana bombs, homing missiles, shotguns, baseball bats etc etc.

There's plenty of familiarity here that will play to longstanding fans of the franchise. Indeed, Team 17 doesn't really deviate beyond the tried and tested apart from with a couple of new ideas, but then again, we're not really sure that they needed to. Encouragingly, the changes don't appear to have knocked anything loose, and from the demo we played it seems that the traditional Worms flavour has been retained for WMD. The new additions are fun, but not overwhelming, and it looks better than ever before, with fresh art and a revised, more modern worm bringing the series up-to-date. We're still waiting to see how the new art style will affect the procedural generation of each level, but it certainly doesn't look like anything's broken or unbalanced. For series fans awaiting a triumphant return to form, Worms WMD is certainly a contender.















edit2: i skipped the interview, but apparently its full of in-game footage :)
So thar:
« Last Edit: July 30, 2015, 12:38 PM by HHC »

Offline HHC

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2015, 12:49 PM »
Looks really nice to me.

Even the rope seems to work a lot better than anything after WA.  :)

Offline Kradie

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2015, 01:32 PM »
This looks very interesting. The developers are indeed trying their very best to capture all of their audience from the previous Worms entries, especially Worms Armageddon.  The rope looks adequate and the game itself is something I'd try for sure.

Good work Team17. Keep up the pace, and perhaps this game may be the one.

Offline TheWalrus

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 01:41 PM »
Typical worms game, more time designing the many varieties of hats than the ninja rope.

After many years of shit sandwiches, I can no longer muster positivity about this series like HHC.

Offline Kradie

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2015, 02:00 PM »
There will always be cynics on the nostalgia lane. This does not only apply to games in general. Movies, television, music, and clothes in general.  We all have passion for something, and letting go to something unfamiliar may seem scary.

If no one has deemed a worthy successor to Worms Armageddon yet to this date. There will never be a Worms game like Worms Armageddon period. Worms WMD seem to take the best qualities from every games that came before it.

As someone else once said, WA is self sustained by its loyal fan base.

Offline Xrayez

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 02:07 PM »
No room for the skill development, only in W:A you can do crazy stuff which are practiced and polished by years of experience.

Offline Kradie

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 02:15 PM »
No room for the skill development, only in W:A you can do crazy stuff which are practiced and polished by years of experience.

You can tell that by the video footage?

Offline philie

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2015, 06:32 PM »
they are going to shit out another worms game already? looks like diarrhea to me.

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Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2015, 06:44 PM »
Looks like it might be better than Reloaded/Revolution, but that is not saying much at all.

No room for the skill development, only in W:A you can do crazy stuff which are practiced and polished by years of experience.

You can tell that by the video footage?
Yes.

Some positive changes:

- Physics, worms fly longer distances for example.
- Wind meter seems to have 21 stages, not freaking 9!
- Back to 2D and the worms and their animations don't look as annoying as in Reloaded.
- Bigger maps.
- Better UI, still pretty shit and consolish.
- New stuff like the buildings. The tanks seem unecessary and boring though.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2015, 07:06 PM by Tomtysti »
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Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2015, 07:01 PM »
No room for the skill development, only in W:A you can do crazy stuff which are practiced and polished by years of experience.

You can tell that by the video footage?

I doubt that one can do a shadow or other rope trick there.
Dynamics of grenades are poor, easy shots with bazooka (like in Worms: Reloaded). No variety of shots (combination of bounce, low gravity, etc).
I see that even worms don't slide on terrain after an explosion, they kinda are sticky  :o

Offline Husk

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2015, 07:18 PM »
"I see that even worms don't slide on terrain after an explosion, they kinda are sticky  :o"

yes this sucks alot |: in worms armageddon it's so much skill to know how ur opponent is going to slide/bounce off a terrain, but from that WMD video we can see the worms just awkwardly stick in the first pixel they collide with

but I saw something postitive in this video, the buildings =P

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Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2015, 09:12 PM »
I like this worms..
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2015, 08:10 AM »
Regarding the Ninja Rope he says:

"It absolutely is the classic ninja rope that oldschool players know well, i'd go as far to say it's THE exact ninja rope."

"We haven't always replicated that to the best of our abilities, for various reasons, but this time round, it's 100% the classic ninja rope"

It definitely isn't? By classic does he mean even before WA and W2?? I admit it looks better than anything after W2/WA/WWP but still looks nowhere near as good as W2/WA/WWP...

Definitely not convinced about the Ninja Rope, however the game looks pretty cool, I think i'll get it :)


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Offline Sensei

Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2015, 08:24 AM »
Let's be honest, wmd only have graphics. When they released it, it would not be a fu**ing shadow of his far cousin W:A.

Fact is that game like this will never be made again.



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Re: Team17 has announced Worms WMD
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2015, 08:49 AM »
in worms armageddon it's so much skill to know how ur opponent is going to slide/bounce off a terrain, but from that WMD video we can see the worms just awkwardly stick in the first pixel they collide with

This. Probably the biggest singular reason the gameplay looks like such a chore in this video.

Also since they're clearly still trying to simulate realistic(ish) physics, why not make the vehicles have actual realistic wheels and stuff to make it, you know, fun and interesting? Instead of press right arrow to move right, press space to shoot missiles that go straight at where you aim ignoring the wind.

I like how these new things like building and tanks are somehow ridiculously big new features. If the developer was someone else with even slightly competent coding skills and a vision to make an interesting game, there would be several types of customizable vehicles which all have different physics feel to them and different weapons/utilities etc. And other new cool features/weapons.

There are seriously hundreds of impressive indie games made in the past couple of years alone (made be like 1-2 dudes on their free time), that have so much more innovation and uniqueness in them. Of course it's just one video, but we all know how dull and incompetent Team17 are these days.

Still, gotta give em credit for trying to make some improvements.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2015, 08:52 AM by Tomtysti »
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