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One-Boards => Schemes Comments => Topic started by: SIBASA on October 04, 2021, 10:44 PM
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Clarification is required in the description of the circuit. bo3 or bo5?
1. In the description of the scheme, where the sequence of maps from only 4 rounds is indicated, there is a postscript "if still no winner", so this is definitely not Bo3.
2. In the "Scheme game options" the number of victories is set to 3.
I ask this because lately there have been a lot of controversies before the game. I don't mind, let the lovers of kaos bo3 play this if both players agree with it, but personally I think kaos bo5 is more correct.
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Yeah it's Bo5 because the scheme is set to 3 victories.
The rules should state this though just to make sure, not everyone even pays attention to 'Victories required to win'.
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I have always played this in bo3 upon common agreement ;c Since in the scheme description there is nowhere clearly stated as "VICTORIES: 3" or "BO5" ::) ::) The round wins are on 3 in the scheme options for sure, but it's not stated in the scheme description :) Maybe fix it?
Although there are a total of 2 players at the moment, who always want to play it in bo5: Hurz and Sibasa. Everyone else plays it in bo3. And also: with no stockpiling.
Maybe it would be nice to put it up for a vote?
a) bo5 with stockpiling
b) bo3 with no stockpiling
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Please write "Bo5" in bold in the scheme description specifically for LupastiŃ and let him stop talking nonsense.
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Chill your small balls Siba, and sort out your priorities :-[ ;D
Cast it up for vote! ;o
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I was asked to comment on this from the scheme-owner perspective.
So this is my statement on this issue:
I didn't specify it in the description simply because I felt that it's obvious to play it at 3 victories as there was a built-in setting once scheme was loaded. Any change of settings is considered as intervention to the official settings and should only be done if both players agree on that I guess.
Official competitive kaos scheme was meant to be played until one player won at least 3 rounds.
Thank you.
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Re: Scheme #1589, Kaos Pro submitted by Dream Trance
I was asked to comment on this from the scheme-owner perspective.
damn Sibi, you are one very hotheaded overbearing person ;) :D ;D
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I was asked to comment on this from the scheme-owner perspective.
So this is my statement on this issue:
I didn't specify it in the description simply because I felt that it's obvious to play it at 3 victories as there was a built-in setting once scheme was loaded. Any change of settings is considered as intervention to the official settings and should only be done if both players agree on that I guess.
Official competitive kaos scheme was meant to be played until one player won at least 3 rounds.
Thank you.
Thanks! We really appreciate your contribution to the creation and development of the scheme and I apologize for having to distract you on such a trifle.
I hope now no one will have any questions.
2021 EDIT: yes, the scheme is strongly recommended to be played bo5 - 3 victories required (as the built-in setting shows).
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@Dream Trance:
The rule is not specific enough and could still cause issues:
"2021 EDIT: yes, the scheme is strongly recommended to be played bo5 - 3 victories required (as the built-in setting shows)."
When you say "is strongly recommended", this means it is a suggestion, not a rule. The second part says 3 victories required though that looks like a link/explanation to the first part and not a distinction on it's own.
It could be more specific:
"2021 EDIT: This scheme must be played Best of 5 unless players agree otherwise - 3 victories required (as the built-in setting shows)."
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Don't really wanna go into what's rule or not.
To me scheme that comes along with all settings at the same time is a rule by itself. All the other things which aren't preset in wsc file need explaining. Simple as that. Just don't touch any setting, load scheme and don't change it :)
If you want my personal opinion, yes, this scheme should be played in at least bo5 format. The logic behind this was to make the winner well deserved (winning by skill in the first place) and not benefitting from any luck factor there may be (and what can cause controversies that it was randomly won).
However any kaos made with rubberworm will be flawed due to normal editors limitations. The only fair kaos scheme I can think of can only be made with px editor where you can turn off everything which is unwanted (overpowered). That could probably be played bo3, because the skill would be favourized even more with a tweaked scheme.
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To me scheme that comes along with all settings at the same time is a rule by itself. All the other things which aren't preset in wsc file need explaining. Simple as that. Just don't touch any setting, load scheme and don't change it :)
Yep, I fully agree and is what i've told others already.
People are lazy to look though. :D
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Or maybe they change it because they want a quick game ;)
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Or maybe they change it because they want a quick game ;)
Some people do, though we're talking about those who are confused about this scheme description, those who play based on it.
;)
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if we are playing tfl clanners and picking kaos in 2v2, that means 4 worms go for each player, right? is it possible to play this in 2v2 clanners? ;o
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If you ask me, then yea it's possible like that, I guess. The idea was to have 4+4=8 vs 4+4=8 worms as in 1v1. On the other hand when you put more worms there is a risk that at some point players will be forced to place worms manually which would change the setting of random placement.
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Honestly, I prefer playing Jumper (https://worms2d.info/Jumper).
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Dynamic old variation of kaos scheme :)