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Worms: Armageddon => Tech Support => Topic started by: tomoto on January 13, 2023, 09:12 AM

Title: (solved) Is it safe to WA with a random stranger using TCP/IP connection mode?
Post by: tomoto on January 13, 2023, 09:12 AM
WA is very old, so it might have some vulnerable computer exploitation?

I am afraid of getting hacked from strangers using some backdoor / bug from the game.
Title: Re: Is it safe to play WA with a random stranger using TCP/IP connection mode?
Post by: h3oCharles on January 13, 2023, 09:40 AM
https://worms2d.info/Hosting_Guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=328117036

although port forwarding is the default way to do this, WormNAT2 (a WormKit module) is recommended nowadays, there's also a hosting bot called HostingBuddy, but it's clunky in controls
Title: Re: Is it safe to play WA with a random stranger using TCP/IP connection mode?
Post by: tomoto on January 13, 2023, 10:48 AM
https://worms2d.info/Hosting_Guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=328117036

although port forwarding is the default way to do this, WormNAT2 (a WormKit module) is recommended nowadays, there's also a hosting bot called HostingBuddy, but it's clunky in controls

Oh my god, it is you again.  Thank for the detailed information!
Title: Re: (solved) Is it safe to WA with a random stranger using TCP/IP connection mode?
Post by: CyberShadow on January 14, 2023, 01:43 AM
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WA is very old, so it might have some vulnerable computer exploitation?
Yes, we fixed a few of these. That's also how Silkworm worked, it exploited buffer overflows. We also added some security strengthening like ASLR I think.

However, the connection method (TCP/IP) isn't important. Normal hosting is also a direct connection.

Using WormNAT2 or HostingBuddy gives you a bit more safety because they decode the packets, so a malformed packet will cause the connection to be dropped. They only decode frontend packets though. They also act as a proxy, so your IP is not exposed.
Title: Re: (solved) Is it safe to WA with a random stranger using TCP/IP connection mode?
Post by: FoxHound on January 14, 2023, 02:48 AM
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WA is very old, so it might have some vulnerable computer exploitation?
Yes, we fixed a few of these. That's also how Silkworm worked, it exploited buffer overflows. We also added some security strengthening like ASLR I think.

However, the connection method (TCP/IP) isn't important. Normal hosting is also a direct connection.

Using WormNAT2 or HostingBuddy gives you a bit more safety because they decode the packets, so a malformed packet will cause the connection to be dropped. They only decode frontend packets though. They also act as a proxy, so your IP is not exposed.

Shadow is Cyber. And the Cyber is Shadow.
Title: Re: (solved) Is it safe to WA with a random stranger using TCP/IP connection mode?
Post by: Zalo the moler on January 16, 2023, 06:03 AM
It's never safe to connect with the stranger, you need to have Rubber (wormkit)  8)
Title: Re: (solved) Is it safe to WA with a random stranger using TCP/IP connection mode?
Post by: Danger135 on January 17, 2023, 03:37 PM
Safe is have Worms-PC for worms, and other PC for work.  :P
(and on that work-PC must be disabled ports on which it usually hear)