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Worms: Armageddon => Tech Support => Topic started by: HHC on June 08, 2017, 11:06 PM
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Ever since the update of windows Im having trouble with my games.
Worms takes longer to minimize and I keep getting this annoying flickering window in the top left of the screen every 10 seconds or so.
One other game I play also has a samilar issue, it usually starts the game with a solid yellow screen, instead of with the menu, when I click with my mouse it proceeds to the menu as usual. An other game tends to crash every now and then, just going back to desktop and the game is completely gone :-[
I reckon a program on the background is intervening, claiming priority where it shouldnt :/
Would that be the problem, and how can i see which one it is?
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That's a bit like what happened to me!
I done a windows update(included nvidia too), I couldn't minimize without crashing, randomly when starting a match all i'd see was 20% of the game in top left corner...
I changed from Direct3D 7 to Direct3D 9(shader) and it works fine for me now.
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Stay XP.
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dont minimize, just use alt+tab
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@HHC
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/d3d9wnd-a-native-direct3d-9-based-windowed-mode-and-multi-monitor-support-19063/
Does that help?
dont minimize, just use alt+tab
... is here a difference between that for a fullscreen game?
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also try wkSuperFrontend (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/wksuperfrontendhd-0-4-1-released-(with-hd-graphics)-27448/)!
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dont minimize, just use alt+tab
... is here a difference between that for a fullscreen game?
between that and what?
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in fullscreen you can't minimize?
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i have framedrops/screenlags, it's only really annoying when playing roping schemes.
i'm guessing it's either because of windows updates or graphic driver update.
i have win10 and creators update too & nvidia graphic card.
everything runs fine, except worms armageddon. xd
anyone have or had this problem too and can give me some advice please ?
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i have framedrops/screenlags, it's only really annoying when playing roping schemes.
i'm guessing it's either because of windows updates or graphic driver update.
i have win10 and creators update too & nvidia graphic card.
everything runs fine, except worms armageddon. xd
anyone have or had this problem too and can give me some advice please ?
are you using steam or cd?
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i am using cd version.
direct3d9 (shader) and both vsyncs on.
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(https://i.imgur.com/qDQeQMf.png)
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hey masta i am good, hope you too mate. thanks for your suggestions.
i have already uninstalled the xbox app earlier, because i have read of these input lags, but i think i did not disable ''Game DVR'' before.
so i did it with the registry editor as described here: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6239-DZCB-8600
and yes, step 4-6 did not exist in my registry.
disabling vsync gives me a black screen with sound (like for you i guess - i am using nvidia 382.33 driver) and disabling assisted vsync makes the rope feels weird.
i also installed wkNV3Doff.dll and wkAntiLag.dll which you can get here, for those who don't know: http://worms2d.info/WormKit
not sure if it really helped, but it didn't make it worse.
whatever it was, it got reduced to a very minimum, so it's enjoyable again.
hhc, sorry for hijacking your thread, hope you get rid of your problems as soon as possible.
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For those with Nvidia graphics cards, you might want to set Maximum pre-rendered frames to 1. I use D3D9Wnd for convenience but playing without desktop composition will make the game more responsive.
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I reckon a program on the background is intervening, claiming priority where it shouldnt :/
Would that be the problem, and how can i see which one it is?
Have you noticed, is it a regular Command Prompt window that pops up and quickly disappears? I had that too, and apparently it's a known issue. Check out the "Most Helpful Reply" here:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_officeinsider-mso_win10/officebackgroundtaskhandlerregistration-flashes-a/2600497e-78e4-41a1-9040-461cd2c3ea13
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My win10 also upgraded on that creators update shit..
Just downgraded it and W:A is good again.
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Downgrade to Windows 8.1, or switch to Linux/Mac OS. Or just emulate it in VirtualBox, or something. Downgrade to 8.1?
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Hi people, so as it stands right now (based on all the information I've collected from testers, since I can't reproduce the issues on any of my machines -- might be outdated drivers but I'll try it soon), the issue can be solved in one the following ways, other than enabling windowed mode:
- Enable vsync in-game, but force-disable it in nvidia (roping etc. may feel different)
- Enable Windows 8 or 7 compatibility in the WA.exe properties.
Not sure about quirks other than black screen.
Also would be nice if someone affected by the issue could try launching the game on the Fall Creators Update (the latest) with the latest Nvidia drivers. Thanks!
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I would suggest to either downgrade to Windows 7, run the game in VM Windows 7, or use the compatiblity with Windows 7 (like StepS said).
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According to an early report, the Fall Creators Update (1709) fixes this problem.
Edit: got a second report that confirms the above.
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According to an early report, the Fall Creators Update (1709) fixes this problem.
Edit: got a second report that confirms the above.
Bollocks.
1709 DIDN'T fix shit!
I can't minimize the game. If I do, there will be some weird empty geometric bodies on my screen while playing. Or even worse - whole white screen that will require ctrl+alt+del to get rid off.
Also, even tho I always played with vsyncs off, since 1709 - game slowed down and feels like all vsyncs are turned on.
My internet connection randomly shut downs few times per day.
Also usb wireless signal got lower since microsoft MADE ME update.
I'm going back on 1607, if I manage to do it.
If not - i'm done with win10 forever probably.
DON'T UPDATE!
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I know at least one dude who plays in fullscreen without vsync has recommended enabling "Disable fullscreen optimizations" on the Update, and the game started feeling like before, without issues. Also I recommend doing this (https://www.tenforums.com/performance-maintenance/96792-fall-creators-update-poor-performance-lagginess-fix.html) so that performance does not get negatively affected by the new security mitigations.
I guess you got really unfortunate with your drivers. I would probably wait at least 6 months before trying to update again, so both MS and driver vendors can clean up the mess.
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I can't minimize the game. If I do, there will be some weird empty geometric bodies on my screen while playing. Or even worse - whole white screen that will require ctrl+alt+del to get rid off.
Also, even tho I always played with vsyncs off, since 1709 - game slowed down and feels like all vsyncs are turned on.
yep.. both these problems happen to me too after updating to 1709..
https://i.imgur.com/Q0cMpXj.jpg
"Disable fullscreen optimizations" fixes it.
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"Disable fullscreen optimizations" fixes it.
Is it also fixing vsync problem? Apart from the minimizing problem, input lag was also caused by 1709, for me atleast.
I'm sure they'll fix it StepS, but I don't prefer being lab rat and use unfinished product next few months.
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Is it also fixing vsync problem?
yep, game runs as before when this box is checked.
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Stay XP.
Or at least stick with Windows 8.1 (and the newest WA version), which I haven't had trouble with, although results may vary.
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Windows 1803 update seem to not fix problem entirely but it's better than 1703/1709 when it comes to WA.
Still not able to run the game without compatibility mode or unchecking "disable fullscreen optimizations", but at least now I'm able to use compatibility with Win8 (in earlier update only compatibility that was allowed was XP, which made game run much faster).
Win8 compatibility do feel like there's a bit of "input delay", but XP one was just too furious. Now need to get used to Win7/8/10 feel, all over again. :)
Also, this update fixed IntesKeyChange too. In 1709 I needed to run it as administrator and then disable before entering the actual game. StepS proposed this run as admin solution, obviously.
There, just a bit info on new update if anyone had similar issues.
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Windows 1803 update seem to not fix problem entirely but it's better than 1703/1709 when it comes to WA.
Still not able to run the game without compatibility mode or unchecking "disable fullscreen optimizations", but at least now I'm able to use compatibility with Win8 (in earlier update only compatibility that was allowed was XP, which made game run much faster).
Win8 compatibility do feel like there's a bit of "input delay", but XP one was just too furious. Now need to get used to Win7/8/10 feel, all over again. :)
Also, this update fixed IntesKeyChange too. In 1709 I needed to run it as administrator and then disable before entering the actual game. StepS proposed this run as admin solution, obviously.
There, just a bit info on new update if anyone had similar issues.
That's weird I played W:A on Windows 10 and didn't have any issues.
Maybe you have the graphics engine set to directdraw?
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Update: Day after and its not working again lol. Need compatibility with win xp.
Windows 10 is still shit. Thanks for listening.
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Update: Day after and its not working again lol. Need compatibility with win xp.
Windows 10 is still shit. Thanks for listening.
Got problems with my worms too, maybe after last update, not sure.
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yes, after last update... first problems after minimizing game and back to white screen with cursor only.... now is better with d3d9Wnd (https://steamcommunity.com/app/217200/discussions/0/810919056990683316/?l=russian), but still problems after every game.... game switch from full window to small window and back to full window...3 sec switching.... still didnt find right settings....
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what?
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1803 caused me some trouble too. Minimizing/maximizing still worked, but it took 4-5 seconds to do so.
I was able to go back to 1709 quite easily (here (https://pureinfotech.com/uninstall-windows-10-1803-april-2018-update/)), apparently that only works within 10 days of upgrading.
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Thank you for that Sid. I use recovery too and now works fine as before :)
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Problem solved
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Maybe NVIDIA must fix this... will wait another NVIDIA driver and try again 1803.... or maybe GTX1060 is too weak for worms oO
GEFORCE problems here... (https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1051197/windows-10-update-1803-causing-trouble-/)
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1803 worked like charm first day. But already 2nd day everything went nuts.
How to explain this :/
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(https://i.imgur.com/bXNsyUu.png)
Turning this setting off seems to have fixed some issues for me.
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Still don't know why you guys have these issues my only issue is a white screen in the frontend after minimizing.