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All About TUS => TUS Discussion => Topic started by: Maciej on January 22, 2010, 07:13 PM
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who got the stupid idea to put shopper in classic league?? As we all know shoppa play only begginers, to play wxw, rr and roper after. Shoppa is lucky scheme where each round = attack. We can't even say about skill of using weapons as we have to attack from rope, so it deppends of the places - luck. For more if I get mine, and my opponent dyna, who wins?? Answer is easy. After all shoppa is f@#!ing boring! I take the crate and still get 25 sec to attack... It's nice scheme to start roping, I loved playing it, but 4 years ago...
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lmao, an other theard to improve ur karma! XDD
man shoppa was alwys in lol, even in other leagues. its not played only for begginers, there there is many things envolved, the weaponds alwys help, but that isnt all, like the cr8s in roper, or the wind in rr, even the weaponds in t17. u @ lol
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I agree with Maciej, shoppa should be removed.
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That scheme is just too famous to remove it. If you can stand because of easy maps - use caves (needs a proper edit before). All these tricky parts... Mmm, lovely!
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hmmm if more ppl agree with me we could make a poll. For e ample it was good idea to remove intermadiate, and take hysteria in.
I write about it because I have already played with benz this scheme. We played on hard map, but before each attack we got at least 10 sec (I mean get the crate and come back to enemy), even if there were 'evil' crates, lul.
I don't care as much about karma as u beer.
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remove maciej from tus?
Shopper is very tactical, and requires so much consistency. Go play random00 or gonzo and watch them own u with whatever lame cr8 they get.
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word again chik, lol
we are getting tired of so many poll! so many democracy here! MI be the king and stoll these polls for all and for nothing! XD
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word again chik, lol
we are getting tired of so many poll! so many democracy here! MI be the king and stoll these polls for all and for nothing! XD
ae beer for president!
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remove maciej from tus?
Shopper is very tactical, and requires so much consistency. Go play random00 or gonzo and watch them own u with whatever lame cr8 they get.
lol Chicken we know you love shoppa, you always pick this in tus :P
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word again chik, lol
we are getting tired of so many poll! so many democracy here! MI be the king and stoll these polls for all and for nothing! XD
ae beer for president!
MI give me the power to ban and cesure, ill ban and censure ae, even ban mayself for sure XD
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Maciej, relax mate :)
I watched your shopper vs benz. How do you expect to focus on the game when you are mad at the scheme and insulting it in the game?
Have you notice how many mistakes you did in the shopper? I watched the game and I was expecting a hardcore close match which nobody fails and you lost cause of pure bad luck. But you did like 5 big mistakes in the game.
You can't compare any schemes together. Shopper is not WxW. In WxW there's a chance your opponent do not attack you in every turn he plays. In shopper you have to set your default that every turn your worms will be attacked. But the point is, how do you attack? It is not about dropping a weapon. How you drop a weapon? Are you causing fd along with the explosion? How are you knocking? How are you piling? where are you hiding?
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yeah Monkey, I did a lot of mistakes, but did I play careful? No, from start I was completly bored, and I was tapping fast, completly useless, without chute etc.
lol Chicken, let's improve your rr.
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remove maciej from tus?
Shopper is very tactical, and requires so much consistency. Go play random00 or gonzo and watch them own u with whatever lame cr8 they get.
lol Chicken we know you love shoppa, you always pick this in tus :P
cus no one will play me in bng :(
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Shoppa isnt a "noob" scheme, for many reasons.
For one, shopper is practically the only scheme in which 1 mistake can ruin the game.
You need to be very consistant, as well as creative with your attacking and hiding.
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yeah Monkey, I did a lot of mistakes
see, people loose shoppers because they make mistakes, just like any other scheme.
Its rare that a loss is ever down to pure luck, no petrolbombs and flamethtowers furthers this
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Shoppers were never about being able to use the rope well. Shoppers are about being efficient with the weaponry you get, it's about luring your opponent into attacking the wrong worm.
Of course bad luck can hit you at any time, but the same is true for any other scheme. Chicken mentions an excellent example; Guardian was the player with the highest shopper rating by far. If it were just a luck scheme, that would not be possible.
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Yeah, requesting to take Shopper out of the league schemes just implies that you're pissed off because you can't play it properly.
I'm a big fan of Shopper league- and tourney-games and I can still remember 2vs2 Shopper tourney finals vs Kiros and Fredalot, we had like 3 of those and all of them were thrillers. :)
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yeah Monkey, I did a lot of mistakes, but did I play careful? No, from start I was completly bored, and I was tapping fast, completly useless, without chute etc.
That's your problem. Do you really expect everybody who enjoys playing shopper and (rightfully) thinks it's as skill based as practically all other league schemes will bow down to yet another of your angry rants?
Shopper stays.
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Shopper is just a very enjoyable scheme. Of course not, when you make epic fails, or you just have bad lucks. But you need to make tactics too, if you want to win. Of course not tactic like in T17. But crates : The crate is close to you, or not : Safe-rope, or you must hurry
Hiding : Pile with the other worm, or he will use that worm to his next turn, and find a nice hide? ....etc
Of course somewhere Maciej is right too about if he gets mine, and opponents dyna, then opponent will win, but it's always changing. You don't know which weapons will you get, or which weapon will your opponent get, it's random.
I don't think if shoppa should be take out of classic.
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Nor did I like the scheme until I realized the potential of it. I wouldn't say that it's as enjoyable or challenging as other schemes, and people with less roping skills have somewhat better chance to beat a better skilled player, but still Maciej's "idea" is gratuitous, a simple ebullition of anger.
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Nor did I like the scheme until I realized the potential of it. I wouldn't say that it's as enjoyable or challenging as other schemes, and people with less roping skills have somewhat better chance to beat a better skilled player, but still Maciej's "idea" is gratuitous, a simple ebullition of anger.
hahahahah Ray :D:D U and ur words.. Wikipedia at its best! :p
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+1 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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We learn these at school... And ebullition of anger is one expression. Gratuitous means baseless.
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Nerds :p. Well darkz said it all, nothing to add from my side. Shoppa ftw :).
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Baseless? :D rofl :D
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Remove shoppa? What have you been smoking? The day shoppa is removed from the league is the day I leave worms :o Your arguments are extremely bad... First off, there is a big difference from attacking from rope and not. Secondly, you say shoppa is a lucky scheme where each round is attack. I guess we should remove Roper too then, since each round is an attack? Surely, you can have bad luck with the crates, like in any other scheme, but you can easily fight back with good tactical play. Eventually he will have to kill one worm of yours, which gives you the opporunity to pile every turn and make the health difference smaller. Play random00, Darkone, FFie, Mini, HHC, Chicken or Guardian as D1 said, you name them, and I`m sure you wont come out of it 50-50 in win/losses.
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Listen to my argument : Shoppa sux.
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I hate this scheme, when some1 pick it for TuS i hate it so much ^^
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I will pick it every time against you, since you hate it I will surely win. :P