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Offline Chicken23

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2014, 11:27 PM »
I agree with Tomi and Anubis. It really is up to the new players to carry the torch as such and keep this game alive. The newbies need to learn and improve and need that desire to become the next greats of today. Their arn't as many new emerging players as their used to be...

How do you get the newer players interested in playing league schemes and taking part in tus? i think tel, trl do a good job in this as players usually learn 1 scheme first before learning other schemes and becoming more alrounders. Then clans recruit scheme specialists, and also all rounders to create strong squads to clan with. Look at anyone would like lordhound or ryan in their clan.

I just made another thread about this and think reducing the games required to reach playoffs would make a real difference in encouraging more activity from more inactive players. I'm not interested in trying to play league games because i don't have the time to put the hours in make playoffs. TEL and eac work for me at the moment. https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-general/2014-a-bad-year-for-wa-league-games-24866/

maybe merge the threads - although my topic is more about po requirements and not as high level as this post.


Also isn't league general and tus dicussion the same type of forum?  :-X

Offline SPW

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2014, 03:37 PM »
Good point chicken, but also we should think about that 50% winning ratio. And maybe the lenght of each season? But the main problem is, that there are to less newcomer. No fights to veterans. They all did a lot in the past over years and life just change. Imo the app generation stealing millions of potential newcomers. Maybe pc games are out in some years. People who sitting in front of a pc just to play a video game drops from week to week.

Guess we have to accept that even if its sad.

Offline Senator

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2014, 05:14 PM »
Allowing two clans per player is one way. It could work with this kind of rules
- You are not allowed to play against your other clan or a clan you have been in during the season. This applies to playoffs also.
- A clan must always have at least two players eligible to play against any other clan. (Example: Clan1(A,B,C,D), Clan2(A,B,E,F), Clan3(C,D,E,F)). A clan must meet this requirement when the playoffs start or the clan is replaced by other clan.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 10:06 PM by Senator »

Offline Anubis

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2014, 10:33 AM »
Good point chicken, but also we should think about that 50% winning ratio. And maybe the lenght of each season? But the main problem is, that there are to less newcomer. No fights to veterans. They all did a lot in the past over years and life just change. Imo the app generation stealing millions of potential newcomers. Maybe pc games are out in some years. People who sitting in front of a pc just to play a video game drops from week to week.

Guess we have to accept that even if its sad.

Desktop PC gaming isn't dying and surely you can't blame mobile shit for lack of activity in W:A. xD

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Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2014, 10:45 AM »
I've never seen a season winner go as unnoticed or be as irrelevant as they are in TUS.

They've been so anti elitism in hopes of offering a place for everyone including oversensitive noobs that winning is so secondary now nobody gives a f@#!.

Also, young cheap gamers looking for their first ever gaming community are never going to find their way into worms with the now hundreds of freeware 3D shooters and F2P (LOL) MMORPGS on Steam.

Bunch of us Worms was our first real online game, or at least, competitive clan experience. We're not getting those kind of people anymore, only russians.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 10:48 AM by Aerox »
MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
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Offline Anubis

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2014, 11:52 AM »
There are no real who's best clan/player feuds, I remember for example when erod was trying to go 100-0 in WL and succeeded (granted that was during DoN era) it actually made it exciting to watch him going for it and resulted in a lot of attention both in-game and forums. It seems like no one gives a f@#! about being the best anymore, just a friendly "reason" to play serious instead of a funner. I mean even in dt we had talks about going super serious and the whole clan except maybe me and free were against it and just play for fun. That hysteria is in the serious scheme pool doesn't help much either. It yells loud and clear that this is just fun competition. And since there is not even respect to be earned people just don't bother to play anymore. At least that's how I see it.

Offline Senator

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2014, 08:21 AM »
I know people have suggested this before but some visible trophy for the clans & players holding ranking 1-3 currently might give a little boost in the activity. In clanbase.com (CS 1.6) there was golden, silver and bronze ladder icons next to clan's name and they were quite desired: "Clan " For the latest playoffs winners there could be a golden cup like this "Clan ". Clan/player would hold that trophy till the end of next season.

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2014, 09:00 AM »
I don't play anymore because realistically, what is the point?

A 6 year old league with the same players playing for the same positions month in, month out.

The top spots in ALL leagues haven't changed or even came anywhere near close to being challenged, a big part of the reason for this is so many top position players being inactive or not actively playing competitively anymore.

It's f@#!ing boring, really...

Personally speaking I would save all the League information we have, reset EVERYTHING, that means 1v1/2v2 TEL HAL FREE, Tournament standings, Cup points or whatever and anything else, and start again.

I would definitely get back into clanning if this happened because it would be fresh and exciting again...

Seriously, how can you expect anyone to continue to play for points, when there is no point?

Offline theredi

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2014, 11:55 AM »
yea, i said something like that long ago but everyone was like :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, lets save all overall stats gained so far and close `em in lets name it period/era/whateva nr 1 and start 2nd one with who knows how many seasons it will last again, we will see...

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2014, 02:01 PM »
I support the idea! reset all the shit and lets start the new era ae! the stats is already saved on the waybackmachine ahah.

Also we could use breaks between seasons, for example:
season goes for 2 months and then 1 month break (during a break top players and clans would play the playoffs, while the rest would be waiting for the new season)
3month/season makes it 4seasons per year. Winter season, spring season, summer and autumn(fall) seasons.. imo it makes the system perfect

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Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2014, 06:16 PM »
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MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2014, 06:35 PM »
Guys, most of you (me too) that are posting here are in between 25-35 years old, don't expect the same passion on a pc game as when you/we were 10-20 y.o. A few newcomers are capable to resist the difference between a 10 years experience player vs a 10 months. Once again, I summon to "div1 and div2", and of course TUS needs a proper notice about who won, who was the runner up, etc.


Offline Tomi

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2014, 08:31 PM »
All we need are: new players, more new players and some more new players.. dunno,  maybe a fresh league can bring here new guys, but i think this will need some advertisement.. firstly in #ag.. maybe new players could call their friens too.. but a bigger advertisement on a good place (that i dont really know, coz i play only this game and visit only tus site) could make the trick.

And maybe we could try some more experimental seasons (or wtf) to try new/modified schemes. Mole shopper is kinda beloved nowadays for example..
« Last Edit: July 26, 2014, 08:33 PM by Tomi »

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2014, 11:36 PM »
there is such thing in online games as fun/league ratio, how many players play for fun compare to the league players. And comparing to the other games W:A got quite low coef. because you cant find any info about tus except googling or if you are very lucky someone will link you, and there is no other way except tus to become a league player:D I wish W:A had hello-message with join to the tus league invite,    
sooner or later they would come and start playing

Offline Tomi

Re: Summer time blues???
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2014, 11:54 PM »
I can add a spammer to Great Snooper xd But a bot would be maybe better idea to spam AG about tus :D
« Last Edit: July 26, 2014, 11:58 PM by Tomi »