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Offline MarianRV

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2018, 10:26 PM »
The newest update f@#!ed up my system entirely, my screen keeps acting shady and even went fully black twice today...had to restart on both occasions to fix the screen :/

Online MeTonaTOR

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2018, 11:50 PM »
Weird, just updated, no issue with game, runs even smoother
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Offline Sensei

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 10:50 PM »
Just reinstalled. Problem ain't fixed.
Game needs to run in compatibility with WinXP. Otherwise I'll get this:




Offline KinslayeR

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2018, 08:28 AM »
Just reinstalled. Problem ain't fixed.
Game needs to run in compatibility with WinXP. Otherwise I'll get this:





for what the hell reason u have win 10 anyway? to be cool person? to make bill gates even more reach than he already is?  to have shitty things in cloud? to have bugs like this?
dude.. go to win xp or even win98 lol

Offline SiD

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2018, 05:19 PM »
Well, after a small windows update, I'm getting the same error as Sensei.
Replays run fine. Starting a game causes black screen requiring a CtrlAltDel to quit.
Tried all the compatibility modes, none work for me.

For now, I have to use wkD3D9Wnd.
Edit:
And actually it works pretty well!
In the past wkD3D9Wnd caused me to have slight input lag, but now with "disable fullscreen optimizations" checked, all is good.

wkD3D9Wnd.ini:
      [InGameSettings]
      Fullscreen=1

« Last Edit: January 17, 2018, 08:45 PM by SiD »

Offline Sensei

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2018, 10:41 PM »
That's a great news. Wanted to use that module for a long time, but didn't cause input lag.
I'll also try it out now, will give feedback later.

EDIT: yeah, nice revelation SiD. No more input lag when using d3d9wnd module. Although, my game is still broken after minimizing, so I'll need to play with compatibility to WinXP.
And parachute key is bugged, need to change that. For some reason wk_remapkeys is not allowing me to use same keys like I've used to in previous versions of windows.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2018, 11:20 PM by Sensei »

Online MeTonaTOR

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 11:13 PM »
Sensei, reinstall GPU drivers
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Offline Sensei

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 11:21 PM »
Sensei, reinstall GPU drivers

Just edited my last comment up there.
Any reason why you think that would solve anything? Helped you with same problem or..?

Offline Rabbzz

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2018, 06:44 AM »
Well, after a small windows update, I'm getting the same error as Sensei.
Replays run fine. Starting a game causes black screen requiring a CtrlAltDel to quit.
Tried all the compatibility modes, none work for me.

For now, I have to use wkD3D9Wnd.
Edit:
And actually it works pretty well!
In the past wkD3D9Wnd caused me to have slight input lag, but now with "disable fullscreen optimizations" checked, all is good.

wkD3D9Wnd.ini:
      [InGameSettings]
      Fullscreen=1

I’ll have to try this.

EDIT::
Enabling full screen alternative fixed the white screen minimize issue for me. But disabling fullscreen optimizations causes the game to lag on me every few seconds.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2018, 06:57 AM by Rabbzz »

Offline Jengu

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2018, 08:37 AM »
I’ll have to try this.

EDIT::
Enabling full screen alternative fixed the white screen minimize issue for me. But disabling fullscreen optimizations causes the game to lag on me every few seconds.

Do you have both vsync options disabled? Assisted vsync can cause the problem you described.
           

Offline Sensei

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2018, 09:13 AM »
Edit #2:
Goom and myself "had fun" with setting up d3d9wnd module.

If ingame fullscreen is set to 0, worms will be windowed and it's possible to stream via Game capture, but input lag will be there.

If ingame fullscreen is set to 1 (as SiD proposed), input lag will be gone and could help anyone that have problem with Win10. Though, not much help for streamers.


Let's just hope 3.8 update will happen soon and make it possible to play W:A in windowed mode without vsync messing the gameplay.


Offline Jengu

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2018, 10:27 AM »
Let's just hope 3.8 update will happen soon and make it possible to play W:A in windowed mode without vsync messing the gameplay.

I believe that's only possible with Windows 7 and earlier.
           

Offline Senator

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2018, 10:33 AM »
If there's input lag with windowed mode, I haven't noticed it.

I have both vsyncs disabled and I'm using these settings in D3D9Wnd (also using SuperFrontend)
Code: [Select]
[Misc]
EnableModule=1
StaticWindowClass=1
NoTopmost=1
SoundInBackground=1
FancyStartup=0

[FrontendSettings]
Fullscreen=0
FullscreenAlternative=0
Stretch=0
Centered=0
RunInBackground=1

[InGameSettings]
Fullscreen=0
WindowBorder=1
Stretch=0
QuickInfo=1
TopLeftPosition=0

[MultiMonitor]
Enable=0
Monitors=Max
AutoSetResolution=1

Edit: windowed mode gives less FPS but still +650. It's good enough for me :D
« Last Edit: January 18, 2018, 10:52 AM by Senator »

Offline Sensei

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2018, 11:06 AM »
@jengu, is it just speculation, or it actually is possible on Win7? I don't really remember using this module when 7 was installed on pc, so can't tell. Could anyone test how much fps drop on 7 and 10, when using d3d9wnd with ingame fullscreen set to 0?

@senator, can't believe you're not feeling difference. Lucky you :)



Offline Rabbzz

Re: DON'T UPDATE ON 1709! (WIN10)
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2018, 01:06 PM »
Even using ingame fullscreen 1 it feels different from not using d3d9wnd at all.

@jengu. Yes both v-syncs off

Edit:: Been getting some black screens now. using these settings with d3dwnd doesnt feel too different from the vanilla for me.

[Misc]
EnableModule=1
StaticWindowClass=1
NoTopmost=1
SoundInBackground=1
FancyStartup=0

[FrontendSettings]
Fullscreen=0
FullscreenAlternative=1
Stretch=0
Centered=0
RunInBackground=1

[InGameSettings]
Fullscreen=1
WindowBorder=0
Stretch=0
QuickInfo=1
TopLeftPosition=0

[MultiMonitor]
Enable=0
Monitors=Max
AutoSetResolution=1
« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 02:54 AM by Rabbzz »