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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: CyberShadow on November 20, 2016, 02:53 PM
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Hi all,
I've been contacted today by a family member of a fellow Worms player. The player in question has been spending a lot of time playing the game, as well as participating in competitive events, up to the point where it began to affect their health and personal life, ending with an unfortunate situation.
So, I'd like to ask all of you to keep in mind that there are many, many things that are much more important than some 1999 video game about worms. Your health and family come foremost. Also, remember that every hour you play video games, including Worms Armageddon, is one hour you could have spent doing something productive or improving yourself (fitness, skills, career, etc.).
Additionally, as ESRB puts it... "Game Experience May Change During Online Play". Our community is generally nice, but can often be abrasive and unfortunately sometimes even vindictive and harsh. As much as I wish it could improve, there is little I can do about human nature.
It may not be easy to realize the full spectrum of outcomes from our decisions. Right now there are almost no limits on who can play online and no filters on what they can say once in-game, so it's not possible to predict what kind of person you will play against tomorrow. So, if you feel like playing online, or entering an event, might affect you or your life in a negative way, please just don't do it. It's not worth it, and there are better ways to fill your time.
And everyone else, please remember that the people behind the screen are also fellow humans, and might be more sensitive to some words or actions than others. Some people are more susceptible, some people may not realize when it's time to stop. It may not be easy when the other person is just some pixels on a screen, but please try to keep an element of humility and compassion in your online interactions.
Thank you.
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An excellent message for everyone!
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This game would be a better place if more people thought like this, Cybershadow :)
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I fully agree. It's always important to draw a line. This is why I've generally been much less involved in online games recently (I only play a couple times a week at best). Or games at all. Because I was able to realize how many actual goals had to be completed besides gaming. It's for this reason that the games I play nowadays are mostly those that carry some useful food for your brain. For example, foreign languages - depending on what you do, this may be better than any teacher. In everything I do, I try to find some value. Instead of having a worm bounce around the map for 5 hours straight, I could go to Wikipedia and learn something, or develop something for the good of many. As long as it is useful, I feel that a day has not been wasted. I don't expect everyone to feel the same way, but I hope you get my point. Thanks for the post.
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much love to all, any friend of worms armageddon is a friend of mine
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much love to all, any friend of worms armageddon is a friend of mine
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much love to all, any friend of worms armageddon is a friend of mine
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much love to all, any friend of worms armageddon is a friend of mine
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Thank for the post CyberShadow.
This game would be a better place if more people thought like this, Cybershadow :)
It also would be a better place if those people post those thoughts more, DarkOne :)
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Hi all,
I've been contacted today by a family member of a fellow Worms player. The player in question has been spending a lot of time playing the game, as well as participating in competitive events, up to the point where it began to affect their health and personal life, ending with an unfortunate situation.
So, I'd like to ask all of you to keep in mind that there are many, many things that are much more important than some 1999 video game about worms. Your health and family come foremost. Also, remember that every hour you play video games, including Worms Armageddon, is one hour you could have spent doing something productive or improving yourself (fitness, skills, career, etc.).
Additionally, as ESRB puts it... "Game Experience May Change During Online Play". Our community is generally nice, but can often be abrasive and unfortunately sometimes even vindictive and harsh. As much as I wish it could improve, there is little I can do about human nature.
It may not be easy to realize the full spectrum of outcomes from our decisions. Right now there are almost no limits on who can play online and no filters on what they can say once in-game, so it's not possible to predict what kind of person you will play against tomorrow. So, if you feel like playing online, or entering an event, might affect you or your life in a negative way, please just don't do it. It's not worth it, and there are better ways to fill your time.
And everyone else, please remember that the people behind the screen are also fellow humans, and might be more sensitive to some words or actions than others. Some people are more susceptible, some people may not realize when it's time to stop. It may not be easy when the other person is just some pixels on a screen, but please try to keep an element of humility and compassion in your online interactions.
Thank you.
that explain why u still did not do 4.0 update
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anyway that is post which should read komso, who ALWAYS force me to play SERIOUS and kick me from games, but I always tell him "hey dude , just a game, hf" NOO!!!! f@#! U , PLAY SERIOUS OR DIE!!!!
Okay thats about Komso, and back to topic..
game is game, whatever you play cs worms or gta, it will always be a game, many ppl forget about it, they alliases, fake reports, and for what? for being super mega pro in 90' game? if there are moneys at least.. no way, thats reason i stopped tus for serious, I dont want to fight with ppl I like in this way, and you know what, I am good with that, I even saved many moneys by not buying next and next one keyboards (razer tarantula) which I usuaally destroy in some next days, and of course I saved the hell of much time. I still enjoy play some funners like 1 time per week, hysteria big rr etc but this is totally another way that it was some years ago.
Thanks for that post CS, maybe some kids will read it and it will help them earlier than us - stupid old nerds without life
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Thanks for being forthcoming CyberShadow, I really wish people were more like this. It could alleviate a lot of drama if people had more communication with one another. Then again we're human, prone to imperfection, not everyone are compatible.
There's a lot of reason as to why people are different from each other, and why some pursue certain behaviorally role. Ergo the incompatibility card comes to play, it deters a user ability to be accepted with his/her current ranking and knowledge by third parties.
As individual, we're responsible for our action we make online. Unfortunately, not everyone can grasp the concept of the word responsibility and they cannot be faulted because of their current status. We all ''can'' grow as character you see in movies to someone complete.
Some human take solace in what they have in their life and dismiss those that they see less relevant. While some has limited knowledge of interaction, and that is to be what the community has classified.
In short, we can be the result of a human's behavior and personality, influencing with vanity or goodness of our heart.
Worms Armageddon's community is small but unique, that's what feel. We can be more mindful of our actions, and be accepting to one another.
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+1 for great post. Gaming is really something great, but it should be a hobby, not an addiction that eats your all day. There's a lot thing you can do in your life, in such a short thing like human lifespan that even if I had 10 times longer lifespan it wouldn't be still enough. Having versatility of things you enjoy will lead a happier and stable life. Since not everything lasts forever, if you eventually get bored from gaming, it wouldn't be a problem if you already have other activities you enjoy beside gaming.
Sorry for any typo or grammar mistakes.
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I remember when I used to leave the ex girlfriend in bed all time and I would prefer to worm she'd be like you love f@#!ing *chicken 23* more than me lol
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I remember when I used to leave the ex girlfriend in bed all time and I would prefer to worm she'd be like you love f@#!ing *chicken 23* more than me lol
lmao
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how fitting:
play worms 24/7!!!
One builds a life around worms.
Worms -> Life.
ahuahua Ye mate.
24/7 on worms is the dreamy life everyone wants but only few can hehe
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We are not equal one another. One will fail, one will succeed. No matter what we are, eventually everything will come to an end.
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how fitting:
play worms 24/7!!!
One builds a life around worms.
Worms -> Life.
ahuahua Ye mate.
24/7 on worms is the dreamy life everyone wants but only few can hehe
if u r J/K is ok huahuahuahua
But if u r serious, you should know that I was J/K cos me per exemple, f@#!ing inactive cos busy life. Only putos brings any game too serious, I know many here, thats just sad.
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What was the unfortunate situation? Somebody killed themselves? :( Who was it?
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who was?
How many letters? with what letter does it start his/her name?
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https://www.facebook.com/721174541353330/videos/824244614379655/
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how fitting:
play worms 24/7!!!
One builds a life around worms.
Worms -> Life.
ahuahua Ye mate.
24/7 on worms is the dreamy life everyone wants but only few can hehe
if u r J/K is ok huahuahuahua
But if u r serious, you should know that I was J/K cos me per exemple, f@#!ing inactive cos busy life. Only putos brings any game too serious, I know many here, thats just sad.
Yea I was semi-joking aswell.
Semi.
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who was?
How many letters? with what letter does it start his/her name?
Judging by the abrupt disappearance of Afina/Anastasya/Spambots, and her general mental instability, she likely had a breakdown.
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who was?
How many letters? with what letter does it start his/her name?
Judging by the abrupt disappearance of Afina/Anastasya/Spambots, and her general mental instability, she likely had a breakdown.
I can't find this user, where is her profile?
I have found some discussions about Pallada aka Afina etc btw uahuha, she seems unstable yes...
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That post reminds me 2009... when i played worms for like 13-14h a day...
who was?
How many letters? with what letter does it start his/her name?
Judging by the abrupt disappearance of Afina/Anastasya/Spambots, and her general mental instability, she likely had a breakdown.
I can't find this user, where is her profile?
I have found some discussions about Pallada aka Afina etc btw uahuha, she seems unstable yes...
Surely got banned deleted @ TUS by Admins. Don't you remember flood @ Chatbox?
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I was a bit inactive, yes, I remember something, but it wasn't epic stuff like Asby.
Well, if the message CS has received is about this Pallada, I guess her mother shouldn't blame a videogame... auhauh
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Even tho this thread started as a great msg to all wormers, it's slowly going off the railways with each new post. If it was really Afina we're talking here, maybe best is to delete this all. Never know how it will reflect on her mental state.
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No matter to know who was, the message is very clear.
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nah...
(http://i.frikkinawesome.com/2014/01/do-you-smoke.png)
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Even tho this thread started as a great msg to all wormers, it's slowly going off the railways with each new post. If it was really Afina we're talking here, maybe best is to delete this all. Never know how it will reflect on her mental state.
Yeh, let's just forget she tried to ruin a shitload of people's computers :x
Not that they didn't have it coming.. clicking on cheat software, but still..
And what ANO says, you cant be productive 24/7. About 4 hours a day max focus is the max. You need time to chill. And video games are just awesome. As is taking naps and just enjoying your life, cos that's what it's all about. Not about having burnouts when you're in the prime of your life and midlife crisis when you're 40.
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it was FAD not afina, noobs
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About 4 hours a day max focus is the max.
That can be stretched quite a lot more if you actually have to (and if you get at least one solid break in between), but I'll agree it's not too healthy :o
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Even tho this thread started as a great msg to all wormers, it's slowly going off the railways with each new post. If it was really Afina we're talking here, maybe best is to delete this all. Never know how it will reflect on her mental state.
Yeh, let's just forget she tried to ruin a shitload of people's computers :x
Not that they didn't have it coming.. clicking on cheat software, but still..
And what ANO says, you cant be productive 24/7. About 4 hours a day max focus is the max. You need time to chill. And video games are just awesome. As is taking naps and just enjoying your life, cos that's what it's all about. Not about having burnouts when you're in the prime of your life and midlife crisis when you're 40.
When I am playing competitive games (or even single player games) I am also at max focus, so games are not always a way to relax. At least not for me. Watching streams is 100% relaxing to me, though.
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it was FAD not afina, noobs
Yeah, it wasn't though
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If CyberShadow wanted to give away the name, he would have done it in the original post. The point of this topic isn't "guess who".
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The point of this topic isn't "guess who".
the point of this topic seems to be to shift the responsibility for someones life from the inner circle (yourself, family members, friends) to the outer circle (online community) which is quite insane. for each case like this, i could mention 3 examples of people finding help in our community during a rough time in real life. the intention of this topic might be good, but in the end its nothing more than to surrender to the old myth of games being responsible for your actions in combination with some weird neoliberal "work is everything" pathos.
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remember, columbine was marilyn manson not cs ::) :D
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Peja and CS are both so right with 2 totally opposite posts. It makes my head hurt.
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The point of this topic isn't "guess who".
the point of this topic seems to be to shift the responsibility for someones life from the inner circle (yourself, family members, friends) to the outer circle (online community) which is quite insane. for each case like this, i could mention 3 examples of people finding help in our community during a rough time in real life. the intention of this topic might be good, but in the end its nothing more than to surrender to the old myth of games being responsible for your actions in combination with some weird neoliberal "work is everything" pathos.
+1
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in Peja we trust, in CS we do not... always wondered who was and if he was real auhuah
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The point of this topic isn't "guess who".
the point of this topic seems to be to shift the responsibility for someones life from the inner circle (yourself, family members, friends) to the outer circle (online community) which is quite insane. for each case like this, i could mention 3 examples of people finding help in our community during a rough time in real life. the intention of this topic might be good, but in the end its nothing more than to surrender to the old myth of games being responsible for your actions in combination with some weird neoliberal "work is everything" pathos.
Is your argument really that we're not generally responsible for the effects of what we say online? I mean we're responsible for every action we take. Of course we're not responsible for completely unforeseeable effects (like say, someone committing suicide over an online dispute), but we can be responsible for emotional harm if we say pointlessly hurtful things. It's sometimes mostly the offended's responsibility to grow thicker skin, sometimes mostly on the offender to be more tactful, and usually both to differing extents, since responsibility isn't exclusive to one party. It's just about how each party ought to change.
I really see nothing wrong with the suggestion we all look at ourselves to see if any of us are taking this too seriously, or if we've said pointlessly hurtful things. The worst that could happen is that some of us realize, oh yeah, I should be less of a dick.
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The point of this topic isn't "guess who".
the point of this topic seems to be to shift the responsibility for someones life from the inner circle (yourself, family members, friends) to the outer circle (online community) which is quite insane. for each case like this, i could mention 3 examples of people finding help in our community during a rough time in real life. the intention of this topic might be good, but in the end its nothing more than to surrender to the old myth of games being responsible for your actions in combination with some weird neoliberal "work is everything" pathos.
Is your argument really that we're not generally responsible for the effects of what we say online? I mean we're responsible for every action we take. Of course we're not responsible for completely unforeseeable effects (like say, someone committing suicide over an online dispute), but we can be responsible for emotional harm if we say pointlessly hurtful things. It's sometimes mostly the offended's responsibility to grow thicker skin, sometimes mostly on the offender to be more tactful, and usually both to differing extents, since responsibility isn't exclusive to one party. It's just about how each party ought to change.
I really see nothing wrong with the suggestion we all look at ourselves to see if any of us are taking this too seriously, or if we've said pointlessly hurtful things. The worst that could happen is that some of us realize, oh yeah, I should be less of a dick.
What I was getting from Peja's post was, that you should not blame the entire community for the misfortune of someone's life that would be the same with or without W:A. If said person is mentally ill or has a rough life, I'd argue he would have the same problems regardless of W:As existence or even the internet as a whole. Reason being that you can always alt+f4 everything, it's a computer that you can shutdown. However, you can't just shutdown problems in real life with friends/family or yourself. If you do, it's called suicide/murder. For just about everyone games/internet is a blessing as it lets you be yourself, catalyst your bad feelings into good feelings or sometimes just be soft/hard in a real world where you usually can't be, and the most important thing: You can exit your internet "life" without affecting yours or anybody's health. You can be sick in real life but healthy online because no one can see you. For the same reason I could argue if someone has a huge grudge/mentally illness with someone in real life and he didn't be rude online he would channel his anger into something way worse. (actual murder) It's not a simple if everyone would be nice this would not have happened scenario, that is indeed insane.
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About 4 hours a day max focus is the max.
That can be stretched quite a lot more if you actually have to (and if you get at least one solid break in between), but I'll agree it's not too healthy :o
I agree with that. Would you by any chance know by any chance know any reliable paper about it. It seems to me it was one of theses things where researchers went back and forward.
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Reason being that you can always alt+f4 everything, it's a computer that you can shutdown.
Don't agree with you on this one Anubis.
Even for mature ppl it's hard to shutdown a computer and deal with harsh online criticism/insults. For teens it's an entirely different case. They take every personal insult serious (they are more self-conscious.. and lack the self-esteem to put criticism on their person into perspective). Cyberbullying does cause a lot of harm.
And yeh, even for adults it can be hard, especially when there's some kind of truth involved.
And totally quitting the internet... i dunno, it's not healthy either, cause the feeling that the world hates you, or has something against you will remain.. and probably become even more persistent.
It's a boring, moralistic truth, but meh.. it's not un-true.
@DarkOne: yeah, I was just mentioning a random number, glad you agree though. If spending more than 4 hours on 'useful' stuff was completely useless I'm pretty sure schools and jobs would be max 4 hours now but they aren't. There's still another 8 hours or so that you can work at half brain-capacity :D.
The point is more that we are living in a meritocracy, which is nice cause it rewards good labour and doesn't judge on someone's ancestry or financial background. But at the same time, it's gone to an extreme where, in the absence of a religion or other system of values, people push themselves to work ever harder (because succeeding is the only thing that matters). Look at what's happening in IT companies... young people working 7 days a week, for about 10 hours a day doing really brain-intensive stuff. That is just not healthy, for anyone. And it's the kind of job you can do for about 4 years on Red Bulls and other stimuli, but after that it's gg. You only burn yourself up this way. And there isn't really anyone warning ppl against this. The only thing they say is, when you have a burnout, slowly build up again to the old level you were at. Errr..
DarkOne, i'm sure you've seen this (dutch) ad:
That's just so messed up. If my girl asked me that question I'd seriously slap the shit out of her.
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If my girl asked me that question I'd seriously slap the shit out of her.
... so what did she ask?
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If my girl asked me that question I'd seriously slap the shit out of her.
... so what did she ask?
What Girl? hauhauha HereSheComes?
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... so what did she ask?
"Dad, how high do you raise the bar?"
Pretty much implying the only correct answer is WAY UP IN THE MOTHERf@#!IN SKY YOU KNOW-IT-ALL B*TCH.
*ahem*
nino: is that your mom's skypename, bet she gets lotsa requests no?
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nino: is that your mom's skypename, bet she gets lotsa requests no?
Nopes my mum's skype is queenDAbitch shes online now asking for cocks aeeeeeee xD
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Reason being that you can always alt+f4 everything, it's a computer that you can shutdown.
Don't agree with you on this one Anubis.
Even for mature ppl it's hard to shutdown a computer and deal with harsh online criticism/insults. For teens it's an entirely different case. They take every personal insult serious (they are more self-conscious.. and lack the self-esteem to put criticism on their person into perspective). Cyberbullying does cause a lot of harm.
And yeh, even for adults it can be hard, especially when there's some kind of truth involved.
And totally quitting the internet... i dunno, it's not healthy either, cause the feeling that the world hates you, or has something against you will remain.. and probably become even more persistent.
It's a boring, moralistic truth, but meh.. it's not un-true.
@DarkOne: yeah, I was just mentioning a random number, glad you agree though. If spending more than 4 hours on 'useful' stuff was completely useless I'm pretty sure schools and jobs would be max 4 hours now but they aren't. There's still another 8 hours or so that you can work at half brain-capacity :D.
The point is more that we are living in a meritocracy, which is nice cause it rewards good labour and doesn't judge on someone's ancestry or financial background. But at the same time, it's gone to an extreme where, in the absence of a religion or other system of values, people push themselves to work ever harder (because succeeding is the only thing that matters). Look at what's happening in IT companies... young people working 7 days a week, for about 10 hours a day doing really brain-intensive stuff. That is just not healthy, for anyone. And it's the kind of job you can do for about 4 years on Red Bulls and other stimuli, but after that it's gg. You only burn yourself up this way. And there isn't really anyone warning ppl against this. The only thing they say is, when you have a burnout, slowly build up again to the old level you were at. Errr..
DarkOne, i'm sure you've seen this (dutch) ad:
That's just so messed up. If my girl asked me that question I'd seriously slap the shit out of her.
Getting off topic but I had to reply to your response to DarkOne.
I work in the IT industry and it really bothers me that people decide to work unheathy hours to try and progress.
From my experience those people claim they deserve a promotion because of the sheer amount they have done, AND complain about working too many hours, which is frankly stupid.
I simply tell those people that actually they are doing the work in an unsustainable manner and simply haven't proven that they can take on extra responsibility with effective time management.
Companies that promote those due to simply over the hours achievements should shut down.
All part of competition, eh.
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Getting off topic but I had to reply to your response to DarkOne.
I work in the IT industry and it really bothers me that people decide to work unheathy hours to try and progress.
From my experience those people claim they deserve a promotion because of the sheer amount they have done, AND complain about working too many hours, which is frankly stupid.
I simply tell those people that actually they are doing the work in an unsustainable manner and simply haven't proven that they can take on extra responsibility with effective time management.
Companies that promote those due to simply over the hours achievements should shut down.
All part of competition, eh.
I totally agree! *thumbs up*
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Unfortunately our sad story is not over. Afina now in hospital because she got mental disorder.
It seems a bit steep. Maybe we will sue, I'm not sure, but in any case we will take action. What you done to her?
First of all I ask this question to the players onl and cwt. She did not have any mental health problems.
I do not argue - she certainly deserved a ban for the use cheat but you did it too rude.
Do not forget - she is a girl, already only for this reason we need to treat her more gently.
No one knows the consequences. Doctors does not think that she will become a psychopath but she have heavy vindictive character.
If her health will ok she will avenge before the end of life. I guess what she would do. Spambots, new cheats,
ddos attacks, maybe she even try to kill someone. I will not help her but she can do it without my help.
In any case, even if she kills someone, I will not feel sorry for the Bereaved
because our family has suffered from the actions of these people.
By the way about cheats.
Afina was always sure that some players use cheats and scripts. About cheats she right.
As for scripts - some days ago she got script from one player.
That script allows you to see action radius of mines, player weapon and the flight path of the worm.
Of course I will not give url to that script but if you need proof please write me an email DarkWarrior.com@yandex.ru.
I ask the moderators to show tolerance. I promise that I will not distribute this script. It is only for proof.
I am sure - scripts for bng/hysteria/elite/e t c exist too.
Now let's ask the question - if the game is hacked, if cracked version is not a secret, if scripts exist -
really no one will use it? You know the answer. Especially considering the fact that some players create aliases
and play games with themselves.
By the way - is Fad ok? Afina said he is very sick.
Please contact him who can. We are worried about his health.
Thanks for help CyberShadow, Steps and others who agreed to CS.
November 13 Afina was 26 years old. HB Afina. I hope everything will be fine.
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All condolences and due sympathy for what has happened, but.....
In any case, even if she kills someone, I will not feel sorry for the Bereaved
because our family has suffered from the actions of these people.
So the sociopath gene runs in the family, then? Compassion isn't a one way street.
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Get her out of there fast, she does not need a hospital, she needs a doctor who understands mental illness. It's not a joke.
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Darkwarrior, you registered today, who are you? her brother/father?
Who is Afina btw... and FAD? I guess they have been around only for few months.
what the hell did they do with the spambots and virus etc...
what do you want?
You said she didn't have any mental problems before playing worms, than he played with some ONL and CWT guys and basically this has led her to the point to act crazy in ag and send virus and spams to everyone and now she is at the hospital. am i right?
I was not active in the last months, I need a clear resume.
And please, take out the part about her killing some worms players without you feeling sorry for the bereaved.
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maniacs, script kiddies, sociopaths and demons of world unite!
lets have some bunga bunga
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I think this thread has run its course.
Thanks, all!