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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Rabbzz on June 02, 2014, 11:28 AM

Title: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Rabbzz on June 02, 2014, 11:28 AM
Hey there I use sharpkeys (which writes to the registry) to remap my arrow keys to the numpad. Sometimes It feel like the remapped keys aren't as responsive as the original keys. Just wondering if its just my head or could this actually be the case?
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Rabbzz on June 03, 2014, 01:42 AM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Twyrfher on June 03, 2014, 01:48 AM
I haven't used that program, I use the numpad as arrows too but with Intes Key Changer, no problem at all (on 3 diff. Windows, and many KB's, usb, ps2)
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Rabbzz on June 03, 2014, 02:19 AM
Yea I think it's just my brain being silly sometimes haha
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Aerox on June 03, 2014, 07:14 AM
KeyTweak and Intes also write to the registry afaic

They're defnietely not less responsive when remapping than sharpkeys
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: StepS on June 03, 2014, 08:00 AM
The reason why keys are less responsive is because the game runs on foreground in exclusive fullscreen, taking most of the resources on itself, and smashing out the external programs in performance: this has always been the case with arbitrary keychangers that don't work on the low level.
This is one of the reasons for wkRemapKeys (http://worms2d.info/wkRemapKeys): it works at the WA's own code level and therefore eliminates any possible lags.
Another guy also made wkBindKeys (http://worms2d.info/WkBindKeys), but it is systemwide (every app in your system will be affected) and requires a toggle button to turn off.
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Rabbzz on June 03, 2014, 08:37 AM
Ah ok I thought using a program that writes to the registry and doesn't actually run in the background would get rid of any lag in the keys.

I think ill just try play without any remaps.

Thanks :D
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Aerox on June 03, 2014, 09:33 AM
Ah ok I thought using a program that writes to the registry and doesn't actually run in the background would get rid of any lag in the keys.

you're still right. programs like keychange or keytweak, that write in the registry, offer no noticeable input lag ingame.

there are other programs that remap keys and work differently in real time or whatever, but many of those don't even work with WA
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Rabbzz on June 03, 2014, 10:57 AM
I see, thank you
Title: Re: Remapping arrow keys
Post by: Lex on June 28, 2014, 02:07 AM
It's possible that the vague feeling of disconnection you're experiencing is due to what is known as "ghosting", which is when a high number of keys pressed simultaneously causes a number of them to be ignored due to the primitive internal keyboard design.  Here is an article that explains what I'm talking about.

http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/AntiGhostingExplained.aspx

What I'm saying is that it may not be "lag" or "unresponsiveness" at all.  It may be that you are having to play around a problem and you can't easily identify what the problem is.  I hope this helps.  If not, I can't really think of anything else it could be.  Remapping keys in the Windows registry does not add latency to the keystrokes, in my experience.

If this is your problem, you will probably want to find and buy a keyboard that advertises or specifies "NKRO", "N-key rollover", "6-key rollover", or something similar, which just means that N (a variable number) keys can be activated simultaneously and registered by the computer.