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Game #233617, reported by Lupastic, Viewed 445 Time(s)

Rope #20, Allround #19
Clanners
August 24, 2022, 05:33 PM
Winner
Absolute Beginner 1000 in Big RR/Tower before the game. Gained 41|41 points more
Loser
ob
Absolute Beginner 1036 in Big RR/Tower before the game. Lost 38|41 points more
  

Game Rate
Not rated yet
Players history
1 - 0
1 - 0
3 - 1
4 - 2
Information Game scheme: Big RR/Tower
Scheme pick: Winner's pick
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Game Chat(s)
[Lupastic`FS] enjoyz
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] Funs
[TdC`StJimmy] gl hf ae
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: hmm sorry to hear :/ try to focus
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: not sure what they wanna pick after this
[ob-doc`zar] oh i've also wanted to ask only 1 worm from team has to reach finish for victory? that what adnan said
[Echiko`FS] I think that the first and the third count
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: nah we will win :3 just be faster than doc
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: yes this is ours xD u didnt read mine + echiko's messages? xd
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] awe
[TdC`StJimmy] bl
[ob-doc`zar] lupastic?
[Echiko`FS] wait he is writing
[ob-doc`zar] lol how do you know
[Echiko`FS] I feel xD
[ob-doc`zar] damn
[ob-doc`zar] you scaring me
[Echiko`FS] if you reach first place is not enough
[Echiko`FS] you must arrive 2 or 3
[Echiko`FS] 1-3 place: winner 1-2 place: winner
[Echiko`FS] the rest is loss
[Echiko`FS] I think
[ob-doc`zar] so where those rules written exactly?
[TdC`StJimmy] what if its 1-4 tho? draw?
[Lupastic`FS] nope, if a player from one team reach finish as first
[Lupastic`FS] and the other 2 players from the opposite team reach 2nd and 3rd
[Lupastic`FS] they win
[TdC`StJimmy] ah i see, k
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: u see, we've got it :P
[Echiko`FS] I wrote that in short but it was that xd
[ob-doc`zar] no. that means only 1 worm from team need to win if 1 reach first
[ob-doc`zar] and no one else reach it
[Lupastic`FS] I don't understand doc's question
[Echiko`FS] if you arrive 1 and the other 4 is not a win
[Lupastic`FS] o:
[ob-doc`zar] hmmm
[Echiko`FS] the team who takes less turns
[Echiko`FS] to reach the finish
[ob-doc`zar] ok
[Echiko`FS] that's why coming 1st and 4th is not enough
[Echiko`FS] 2nd and 3rd in theory have less turns than 1st-4th
[ob-doc`zar] yeah i'm 3rd
[Echiko`FS] adni=
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] sup
[Echiko`FS] adni is 2nd?
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: yes c: he makes awesome maps
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: and this map was unused. so far, on TUS
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: wanted to try it
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] i guess
[ob-doc`zar] no
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] i started first
[ob-doc`zar] adnan 1 lupa 2 doc 3 lanc4
[Lupastic`FS] Adnan should know how this works.. actually
[Lupastic`FS] Adnan you have been on TUS for so long xd
[Lupastic`FS] why didn't you know how races work in 2v2 :P
[Lupastic`FS] about finishing
[ob-doc`zar] i never used tus before this year really.
[Echiko`FS] and lupastic now is 1
[Echiko`FS] not 2
[ob-doc`zar] i just need proof that we agree in case you decide you won again xD
[`Lancy`FS] yes, adnan started first
[TdC`StJimmy] yes
[`Lancy`FS] ae
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] ea
[TdC`StJimmy] sports
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] whole family arrived again
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] to see me fail
[TdC`StJimmy] xd
[Echiko`FS] doc we "do not decide"
[Echiko`FS] these are normal rules ^^
[`Lancy`FS] i like your hae tae style, adny :)
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] :)
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] tae
[`Lancy`FS] ;p
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] awe
[ob-doc`zar] yeah lots of keylock xd...
[Lupastic`FS] I would watch how you rope in live too :P
[Lupastic`FS] behind your back
[`Lancy`FS] come on
[Lupastic`FS] how loud you tap
[Echiko`FS] tap tap tap
[`Lancy`FS] xD
[Lupastic`FS] fap fap x$
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] omg
[`Lancy`FS] lol
[TdC`StJimmy] oof
[Echiko`FS] adni both hands xd
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] whole family go away!
[Echiko`FS] ahhaa
[ob-doc`zar] +allah
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] stop watching me xd
[Lupastic`FS] upsie missed the wall
[Lupastic`FS] :X
[`Lancy`FS] hehe
[`Lancy`FS] eh
[`Lancy`FS] :c
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: go more carefully Sir
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: dont lose turns
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: np if u go a little slower, just safer
[ob-doc`zar] why did you have to pick such bad map xD
[TdC`StJimmy] brb smokk
[ob-doc`zar] LOL
[Echiko`FS] no women on this xd
[Echiko`FS] or men o.o
[`Lancy`FS] fall pls
[ob-doc`zar] no
[ob-doc`zar] there's no tunnels
[ob-doc`zar] it's annoying
[ob-doc`zar] this is tower
[ob-doc`zar] not bigrr....
[Lupastic`FS] check on TUS, its Kirill's big rr map
[Echiko`FS] tower have more obstacles
[Echiko`FS] like weird climbs
[ob-doc`zar] it's just different skill
[Echiko`FS] rope tricks...
Lupastic`FS..Echiko`FS: complaining xd
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] omg
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] how
[Echiko`FS] hm no here you just have to rope normally and concentrate a bit
[Echiko`FS] in tower is a mess! :O
[ob-doc`zar] lol rope normally...
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] i was
[Lupastic`FS] o:
[Lupastic`FS] wat lol xd
[`Lancy`FS] i am looking for you, adny
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] i was roping super soft
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] how was dat fail? xd
Echiko`FS..Lupastic`FS: my God ><
`Lancy`FS is serious from now
[`Lancy`FS] come on
[`Lancy`FS] grrr
[Echiko`FS] sgrunt
[`Lancy`FS] need some moral
[ob-doc`zar] i think lupa played this map before
[`Lancy`FS] offline ofc
[`Lancy`FS] xd
[TdC`StJimmy] bacc
[Lupastic`FS] you should see me on tower race maps doc :3
[Lupastic`FS] thats even easier for me
[TdC`StJimmy] lancy, just recall how shtaket's bum burning :D
[ob-doc`zar] tower is easier
[ob-doc`zar] wtf
Lupastic`FS..Echiko`FS: what the f@#! is he saying, tower is easier xd lmao
Lupastic`FS..`Lancy`FS: nice Sir, keep it up <3
[Lupastic`FS] shtaket quitted too early
[Lupastic`FS] they even might have defeated us
[Lupastic`FS] I only made a few lucky shots
[TdC`StJimmy] i guess
[TdC`StJimmy] bng is stressful itself
[`Lancy`FS] gj
[Lupastic`FS] 26
[TdC`StJimmy] gg
[TdC`StJimmy] gj
[Lupastic`FS] gg ^^ ty
[TdC`StJimmy] gj doc
[TdC`StJimmy] aw
[`Lancy`FS] lol
[Lupastic`FS] oh nuuuu
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] awww
[`Lancy`FS] f@#! this
[ob-doc`zar] ye
[ob-doc`zar] wait
[ob-doc`zar] why not me
[ob-doc`zar] turn
[ob-doc`zar] that's weird
[TdC`StJimmy] cos of red-blue rotation btw
[ob-doc`zar] so lancy gets x2 turns now??
[ob-doc`zar] what
[Lupastic`FS] we talked about this already
[Lupastic`FS] on boom race
[Lupastic`FS] doc
[Lupastic`FS] dont start it again
[Lupastic`FS] use ur memory
[ob-doc`zar] i never played teams
[Lupastic`FS] I reached finish, I surrendered, as we talked before starting the game
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] weee
[TdC`StJimmy] weird
[Lupastic`FS] now lets check the turntimes
[Echiko`FS] yes it has been written into the chat
[ob-doc`zar] what
[Lupastic`FS] hit finish
[Lupastic`FS] 26 sec
[Lupastic`FS] for Lancy
[Lupastic`FS] nooo dont surr
[Lupastic`FS] xD
[ob-doc`zar] wait
[ob-doc`zar] WTF
[TdC`StJimmy] wtf
[`Lancy`FS] wat

[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] Funs
[TdC`StJimmy] gl hf ae
[`Lancy`FS] i am confused
[ob-doc`zar] ye
[TdC`StJimmy] so do i
[ob-doc`zar] we need someone smart
[Lupastic`FS] if I would just start skipping turns after reaching finish
[Lupastic`FS] that wouldnt make sense
[TdC`StJimmy] yes
[Lupastic`FS] I reached finish 4 turns earlier so that gives us an advanage :)
[Lupastic`FS] thats why the surr
[Lupastic`FS] thats why u had -1 turn
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] 2
[Lupastic`FS] 2 sec
[TdC`StJimmy] 4
[TdC`StJimmy] ok
[Lupastic`FS] 23
[TdC`StJimmy] 23
[ob-doc`zar] ok
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] 23
[Lupastic`FS] ok gg
[Lupastic`FS] I think maybe we won this
[ob-doc`zar] what other people?
[Lupastic`FS] :W
[Lupastic`FS] u host ur pick?
[ob-doc`zar] ye
[`ob-Mega`Adnan`] ok

Author Topic: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic  (Read 432 times)

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Offline Zalo the moler

Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« on: August 24, 2022, 07:18 PM »
It seems like there has been an ongoing problem in OB clan with understanding how Races 2vs2 / 3vs3 work.

If you are very fast, and you reach the finish line first, you should be rewarded for it. It means that you press "Surrender" so that your partner is the only one travelling from now on, getting more turns to move thanks to you.

There is absolutely zero sense in you being very fast, if somebody tells you that you should skip the next 20 turns, until your partner arrives. That will limit the whole competition to "whatever player will be the slowest from the entire match, his clan will lose, regardless of good performance of his teammate".

There is a reason why in TTRR or Rope race 2vs2 or Jetpack race 2vs2 you count the best times of two players and you add them together. So that the mediana of your 2 performances would decide about the victory.

It's 2022 and this should not need to still be explained.

Offline Lupastic

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2022, 07:37 PM »
Thank you Zalo, I think at this point we will just stop playing race schemes in clanners xd There are always problems and complications around them, people looking for excuses to escape a loss, and so on.. Until the finishing rule doesn't get explained crystal-clear how it works in 2v2 and 3v3 in certain schemes, it's just better to avoid races in clanners :D

Offline Zalo the moler

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2022, 07:45 PM »
Thank you Zalo, I think at this point we will just stop playing race schemes in clanners xd There are always problems and complications around them, people looking for excuses to escape a loss, and so on.. Until the finishing rule doesn't get explained crystal-clear how it works in 2v2 and 3v3 in certain schemes, it's just better to avoid races in clanners :D

Fresh players have a right of not knowing that and trying to cheese their win. Adnan, however, should have not acted so confused.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2022, 07:47 PM by GonZaLO »

Offline Lancelot

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2022, 07:54 PM »
It seems like there has been an ongoing problem in OB clan with understanding how Races 2vs2 / 3vs3 work.

If you are very fast, and you reach the finish line first, you should be rewarded for it. It means that you press "Surrender" so that your partner is the only one travelling from now on, getting more turns to move thanks to you.

There is absolutely zero sense in you being very fast, if somebody tells you that you should skip the next 20 turns, until your partner arrives. That will limit the whole competition to "whatever player will be the slowest from the entire match, his clan will lose, regardless of good performance of his teammate".

There is a reason why in TTRR or Rope race 2vs2 or Jetpack race 2vs2 you count the best times of two players and you add them together. So that the mediana of your 2 performances would decide about the victory.

It's 2022 and this should not need to still be explained.

I recently started to participate in clanners, and I don't know all the things (yes, I didn't read the rules of the league, I know them in general terms).

It is still not clear to me why to count the time in big rr if, for example, I started last and arrived one of the first to the finish line. But your logic about the fact that the first finisher gives a significant advantage to his teammate to finish the race faster, it makes sense, quite an interesting opinion  :)
   

Offline Zalo the moler

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2022, 08:08 PM »
that's because OB clan is not used to TFL schemes. Whenever I would play 2vs2 Golf in the old days, it was always crystal clear that if I complete all the "holes" in 28 turns, my teammate in 48 turns, and our opponents in 46 turns x2. Then we don't deserve to lose because of me skipping 20 turns. Why would I be in hurry to complete the stage at all if there is zero benefit from it.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2022, 10:07 PM by GonZaLO »

Offline Lancelot

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2022, 08:23 PM »
that's because OB clan is not used to TFL schemes. Whenever I would play 2vs2 Golf in the old days, it was always crystal clear that if I complete all the "holes" in 28 turns, my teammate in 48 turns, and our teammates in 46 turns x2. Then we don't deserve to lose because of me skipping 20 turns. Why would I be in hurry to complete the stage at all if there is zero benefit from it.

This is logical. I completely agree. Bravissimo :)
   

Offline Echiko

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2022, 08:29 PM »
Thank you Zalo, I think at this point we will just stop playing race schemes in clanners xd There are always problems and complications around them, people looking for excuses to escape a loss, and so on.. Until the finishing rule doesn't get explained crystal-clear how it works in 2v2 and 3v3 in certain schemes, it's just better to avoid races in clanners :D

Until defined rules are established.
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