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Sensei:
Since I've been told by a certain player I constantly "moan" about how people play BnG.. Decided to take few shots while SiD was in darkside. This video (@25.24) is why I think these type of shots are not that hard or stylish.

3 different types of shots, 3 tries, 3 hits (3 turns in a row as well) - 3s nade, 4s lg nade, 4s max bounce nade

Not the most hp ever taken, but you get the point.. Quite easier to find your opponent than with an impact shot of any kind (minus 4s full power nade. Those are another type of evil, but let's leave that for some future dramas.

TheKomodo:
Even monkeys could type shakespeare given enough time Sensei.

Edit:

Also, I'm fed up with this ignorant BS from everybody.

(This isn't directly aimed at this replay, or Sensei's comment, but in general because a few people have been spreading lies about it recently.)

The next time I've got enough free time and remember I'm going to prove this once and for all with math and science.

It's mathematically impossible for 4s rollers to be easier than 3s grenades(with these league rules) and I will prove it.

We're talking about shots that blow up before they stop moving.

3s grenades are easier, more accurate, have less distance to travel, less perfect bounces to get that optimal damage and on top of all that, for very advanced players, to target specific pixels to push in specific directions or not at all.

Sorry not sorry but if you(anyone) believes otherwise, you're a fool and I genuinely want to help you learn the truth so you can be a better player!

TheWalrus:

--- Quote from: Sensei on February 21, 2024, 05:58 PM ---Since I've been told by a certain player I constantly "moan" about how people play BnG.. Decided to take few shots while SiD was in darkside. This video (@25.24) is why I think these type of shots are not that hard or stylish.

3 different types of shots, 3 tries, 3 hits (3 turns in a row as well) - 3s nade, 4s lg nade, 4s max bounce nade

Not the most hp ever taken, but you get the point.. Quite easier to find your opponent than with an impact shot of any kind (minus 4s full power nade. Those are another type of evil, but let's leave that for some future dramas.

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Analysis:

#1 - 3 sec was probably the easiest of the bunch, several powers/angles work from this spot with 3s, probably one of the least desirable outcomes, bouncing off the floater.  Simple shot.
#2 - 4 sec lg only works with the power you used with that angle, difficult shot.  -1 power hits the tree above and +1 power flies too far.  Narrow margin for error.
#3 - 4 sec + bounce worked, but your aim probably made this shot harder than it should have been for bounceback, could have taken an aim slightly more upward that worked on the outcropping above if you overpowered it, and also fused it better.  The aim you took probably only worked with 1-2 different powers.

Overall, well done.  The 3 sec is probably pretty cheesy for some, but the other two were great, precision shots that are not easy for the vast majority of players.  Would have shot the last one as 5+ to cozy it closer for more dmg, but that's personal preference.  Maybe I am cheap :D but + bouncebacks are tough and I like to pay them off when I hit them, certainly harder than a 3 sec direct or LG 5 impact.

Sensei:

--- Quote from: TheWalrus on February 21, 2024, 07:47 PM ---certainly harder than a 3 sec direct or LG 5 impact.

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I just don't see it being harder. Especially not when it comes to lg5 impact.





Not doing maths, not going for visual aids, don't posses knowledge of sprites behaviour/aim reticules etc..
Surely not a BnG prodigy, but it does feel easier and cheaper to bounce the nade from green circle (or any other bouncing part of the map), than to hit an impact shot in that red circle.



--- Quote from: TheWalrus on February 21, 2024, 07:47 PM ---Overall, well done.

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Danke!

TheKomodo:
Yeah that's because you've got pretty much the perfect setup, not because THAT specific kind of shot is easier in general lol.

Still much easier to hit the red circle with a 3s nade, and this is the important part, precisely!

I highly doubt you could for example, OPEN that right side of the tree, with a bounce back with as much precision as you could a 3s shot.

But, when it comes down to it! Doesn't matter what shots are generally more challenging on average, it all comes down to your personal skillset and beliefs.

If you actually believe it's easier or harder for yourself, then it probably is for you alone lol.

"Not doing maths, not going for visual aids, don't posses knowledge of sprites behaviour/aim reticules etc.. "

Also, unless you're playing with a blindfold on, everyone with eyes uses visual aids.

And if you ain't doing math, then how do you decide the fuse and the timing?

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