Quote from: Mirux on June 28, 2010, 05:12 PM
Another thing people keep asking me is why I never say "gg" at the end of a game. Is that a big deal? Do I have to say "gg" just because everybody does, even if it wasn't a super wow game?

Dulek mentioned he sees it as a "shaking hand" after a game, like in tennis. In that case, I prefer saying: "well played" instead of "good game".

Then say "well played", simple. It means exactly what Dulek said, because if you think about it, rarely are games really really good, most are just plain average

Or if you want to play the league, read this: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/

So this game needs to be moved either just before #31335 or just after it. Which one was played first?

If you just played the game to the end you could have this win because he didn't take the penalty for blocks. Now the game is voided. Next time don't quit.

Replay attached.

Quote from: Rok on June 25, 2010, 09:34 AM
@Maciej and Abnaxus: In case you didn't know yet, it was said many times before: We allow both variations (7 gird/inf) in league games, the picker of the scheme chooses which one it will be. You lit up, so you agreed on the scheme, game stands, you know the drill.

It would be nice of pS and all others who put non-official schemes to tell that to your opponents in future. 

That was all I intended to say here. As far as I'm concerned, it can be also marked solved.

And I thought I was the one who gets pissed too much when losing 

And don't smash the equipment though or flood the chatbox, I just steam quietly and swear (a lot). 

@Maciej and Abnaxus: In case you didn't know yet, it was said many times before: We allow both variations (7 gird/inf) in league games, the picker of the scheme chooses which one it will be. You lit up, so you agreed on the scheme, game stands, you know the drill.

It would be nice of pS and all others who put non-official schemes to tell that to your opponents in future. 

A lag out doesn't necessarily mean that someone lost connection. It could still be you who dropped. Anyway, as said, the game needs to be rematched.

*solved*

Quote from: Komo on June 23, 2010, 06:11 AM
What I mean is, for my 1st season, and anyone else that is obviously better in 1 scheme than any other, it is unfair to reach playoffs, what I actually mean is, because I win so many BnG's I more or less have no chance to lose 2/2 games, kind of saving points lost if you wish, so when I win 2/2 it's always better.

If you understand?

I understand your point, which is btw isn't correct. Thing is, bng games won't "kind of save your points lost" anymore now when your rating got so high. You obviously don't understand my points, especially this one:

Quote from: Rok on June 22, 2010, 12:47 PM
...you're actually a good allround player, no matter how you emphasize your bng awesomness 

Quote from: Komo on June 22, 2010, 12:09 PM
In all seriousness.

Howcome in normal clan league games, 2 clans could play say, 4 games in a row, all same scheme if they so choose...

But in playoffs - it has to be all-round...

Because...

Quote from: Komo on June 22, 2010, 12:09 PM
...it's an all-round league...

Quote from: Komo on June 22, 2010, 12:09 PM


... it's unfair because I am so good at BnG, I will always have an all-round win ratio of at least 65% because 50% of games are BnG, and I always win around 15% of other games, which would make it so I can get playoffs easy - this is unfair, but more to the point, kind of stupid, because if you think about it I won't really have a chance against the best players all round, well I might i'm at least average in every scheme and pretty strong at Roper/TTRR when I have good mentality, but I think you know what I mean...

Let's make a summary of your season:

Out of 200 games played 100 were bngs. You won 99 and lost 1. You gained 1138 points in bng games.
In other 100 games you scored 63 wins and 37 loses and gained 1166 points, which is pretty good.

Now let's assume a similar situation in next season. You play 100 bngs, but this time you'll get like 200 points at most.
Add around 1000 from another 100 games of other schemes, and you'll be at 2200 seasonal score, not 3300 as now.
You can see it won't be as easy to enter playoffs with 50% of bngs as you might think. You can still qualify by overall rating, which would be around 4500 at that point. Right, it's an all round league.
Do you still think it's unfair?

You say it's stupid, because you won't have a chance against all-round players. You will, because of high overall rating and because you're actually a good allround player, no matter how you emphasize your bng awesomness   If however, you'd still find yourself not having a chance against allrounders, then that'd mean you're simply not good enough, right? That's not stupid, that's fair.

What you wrote is all fine, but the problem is that many people dislike the 'scheme-bashing' on the other hand. About the activity:

season 7:   1102 singles, 357 clanners
season 8:   2155, 369
season 9:   2750, 480
season 10:   2918, 644
season 11:   2924, 833
season 12:   3192, 787
this season's estimates: ~4300 singles, ~880 clanners!

I doubt that points system could significantly improve this trend It surely enables more noob bashing and also you need to limit the amount of games/season otherwise the activity plays too big role in standings.

While I think points system is completely inapropriate for singles league, it could actually do good for clan league, I guess. Go ahead and try convince people and of course the almighty boss of all this - MI.

Quote from: Free on June 21, 2010, 09:42 PM
Whole TUS rating system should be more based on Wormers ACTUAL needs instead having an too fancy rating system.

Free, enlighten us, what are the ACTUAL needs of an average wormer? We've heard a lot complaints about how weird the rating system is, but I don't remember one single post in which someone would actually propose something better. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. We've only been discussing playoffs requirements so far, which is fine, but no one tried to come up with a rating system. The current system is in no way fancy, as you call it.

It's a simple system based on so called "ELO rating system". (Yes, I repeat this for zillionth time). There's a number of sites on the net explaining it (including wikipedia), yet I wonder how many people actually read about it and tried to understand its 'hows' and 'whys' before they start to complain. FB's system, which is so praised by some, worked the same way as ours, with slight difference in numbers.

So what are the needs of wormers? 2 points for win, -1 for loss? Less points for loss, like it already was in TUS? Ideas, people! Mind you that we already had a discussion when this league was just starting and ratings were prefered over points back then.

I'm not picking up on you Free, as it may look like, I just took your post as an example 

The shots which weren't reaimed (there we're two, IIRC) didn't hit and they skipped a turn after at least one of them.

Game stands.

@Artharas: the snooper log doesn't help me much. I don't speak spanish.

@Mir: You didn't pick up MOST of the crates - you collected 18, Artharas collected 17.

There is no way we can know which one of you dropped just by watching the replays. When the game dropped, Artharas had a magic bullet, Mir had a nuke and a homing (as far as the sudden death weapons are concerned). Artharas still had the rope.

I'd say neither of you was 100% certain to win. So you better replay the game.

Random00 pretty much explained everything to you well. Not only that he was too close by the current rules, he also fired a straight full-powered bazooka at you, which is also a cow. And when a game is won by cow, it gets voided.

I deleted the game, you can report it as a win for you (use the same replay).