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Challenge #840, BiG RR Challenge Series #11
TheKomodo:
I will come back to this challenge!
Determined to get a sub 200s, my theoretical best was 189.56, so anywhere between that and 199 I'm happy with! :D
The Wooting 60HE will be arriving between 15th and 18th September! So I'll pick up then and pop the kbs cherry on this map!
Plus, Starfield came out a few days ago and I'm absolutely hooked! So gives me time to complete that as well in between!
Congratz Masta, consistent as usual!
Edit - Wait what? I got a better time 205.14 and sure I uploaded it lol! I got that some days ago anyway I'll upload it again now!
TheKomodo:
Damn Masta... Very nice run! Impressive it was about 1 second to my original Save State replay run!
Didn't even know this was submitted, Triad told me so checked it out!
So the TA run is done by roping as normal, but whenever I make a mistake, or didn't do a section the way as intended, you basically just reload the replay and take control from that point and then get it right.
I decided to update my TA run, using the Wooting 60HE and about 30 or 40 save states, only took about 30 minutes though:
It's definitely a style of roping that's crazy precise and fast, but very possible for the select handful of ropers who can rope that fast, if they could practise the same map for months or perhaps even years like real speedrunners do...
Anyway, us WA players have thousands of maps so we don't spend THAT much time, so this TA run gives an ideal of what the best of us could actually achieve if we played ONLY that map for long enough.
Edit - @Masta(or anyone else), if you watched the TA run I did, are there any parts you saw and think could be done more optimized to save some seconds? I'd love to try do a sub 180 and trying to think which sections to could improve here and there...
TheKomodo:
Improved it down to 178.34, the pumps at the end, during that actual run in the video, it took a few attempts to get that last pump at the end right... Then when I thought "I'll see if it's actually possible to do that many kicks in a row" I did, multiple times, the best one actually saving 0.26s.
Those pumps at the end are actually SupaEasy(pun intended)... Due to the distance between the walls and the height that you are pumping at, for many ropers I see them able to pull this sort of 40-50 degree angle perfectly multiple times in a row as it's just the goldilocks of timing for that specific move, easy to replicate... It's kind of similar to the full power bounce in a bungee race after you get the first full extension and YEET!
The 2 double power outlaws in a row at 88 seconds are actually MUCH easier to pull off in a real run than the version in the video above with the one power outlaw to scroll... You need to get a perfect setup to get the scroll full speed with the perfect line to quickly tap and get under the next section... With a double power outlaw there is more room for error/correction by a few frames.
So I'd highly advise the double power outlaw.
Though, there's absolutely NOTHING else at the moment I can think of to make it better with manual roping using save states in a way that you are doing moves that are pretty easy to repeat on their own successfully... Though I am sure there's a way to shave another second off probably.
It's stringing them all together that would make anyone who could pull it off, the greatest roper that has ever lived. :D
Masta:
--- Quote from: TheKomodo on April 07, 2024, 10:54 PM ---Damn Masta... Very nice run! Impressive it was about 1 second to my original Save State replay run!
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Thanks, it could have been faster without the fall so I'm a bit disappointed but there is still a bunch of time to save as you have shown.
--- Quote from: TheKomodo on April 08, 2024, 03:55 AM ---It's stringing them all together that would make anyone who could pull it off, the greatest roper that has ever lived. :D
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I don't agree with this or even care the only reason I would try to do it is if you did a sub 190 as my goal for this map is to be 10s faster than you.
TheKomodo:
There is absolutely no way I'm spending that amount of time doing a legit run :D
I think if you get a sub 190 it would be impressive enough for this map even by challenge standards. I know it's possible, I'm happy enough with that.
I reckon you could get like a legit 5 seconds less run with a bit of effort more than usual.
Trying to push the TA run any faster borders between what's realistically possible like doing moves you'd just never do in a real run, even a challenge... There are already so many frame perfect moments or timing and reflexes in that one... At least without there being some crazy incentive.
The greatest roper that has ever lived comment was obviously more of a biased kinda true kinda not joke comment... You know when you eat a really good mac n cheese and say "This is the best damn mac n cheese I've ever had!" That's what I meant... It's like the pinnacle of something you wanted to experience in a certain way so far.
Funny thing is, my goal with TA is to be 10 seconds faster than your legit run 🤣 I just can't be bothered with the time it takes to be that consistent anymore, so many other fun things to do!
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