Flat Earth Apocalypse (FEA) Challenge

Aprove, please.

I just had an idea, after all these years that I made this scheme. Please, moderators, aprove my new map upload before people start playing the challenge. It makes the gameplay easier, more fun to play. I just raised the water, it makes more sense, it's easier to see the meteors falling.

Your map has been updated.

There it was necessary to activate the checkbox so that you could specify a record. It seems like something like this is the first try. Retreat time: 00:00:21.78

Quote from: kirill470 on December 12, 2023, 02:23 PM
There it was necessary to activate the checkbox so that you could specify a record. It seems like something like this is the first try. Retreat time: 00:00:21.78

I didn't activate the checkbox in purpose. I don't think players should worry and waste time adding the record. I can do this myself. I'm the one organizing this challenge. So, I'm just facilitating to people play the challenge. They don't need to worry about the score, I'll do this.

The challenge is in minutes so converting 00:00:21.78 seconds to minutes = 0.363m

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EDIT: By the way, I noticed that my new map upload did not save the water rising edit I made in WA Editor. So, I had to set the water rising via TUS and test it downloading the map several times. A value of 47 pixels of flood seems great. It is now properly edited.

So, since Kirill already sent the first record, I'll accept both maps: with 47 pixels of flood and without flood in this challenge. I do recomend downloading the edited map that is available right now, with 47 pixels flood.

Damn! I forgot click the + for add health... I need play again.

Played... Retreat: 00:02:31.86 is good? No? Maybe 5.244 min then?

Quote from: Danger135 on December 13, 2023, 06:53 PM
Damn! I forgot click the + for add health... I need play again.

Played... Retreat: 00:02:31.86 is good? No? Maybe 5.244 min then?

Maybe I should consider replays that people forgot to add the "+", since 63 extra HP may not make much difference in this challenge. However, It's clearly a disadvantage to start with less health, so you should remind to set the "+" anyway. Despite this, people should remind this in case they ever play online this scheme. In multiplayer games, 63 HP makes difference specially in the beginning. Some people are still learning to play, and might survive with little health.

I decided to delete your first attempt, since you sent newer replays with 318 HP initial health. Congratulations, more than 5 minutes dodging meteors!

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By the way, It's bizarre this TUS system. I think challenge moderators shouldn't be able to choose between seconds and minutes and convert to decimal system... I think challenge moderators should just select "point system" or "time system". In time system, you shouldn't need to select minutes or seconds. TUS should always work with seconds, and if the seconds exceed 60, TUS should convert every 60 seconds to minute, like: 2min and 33 seconds and 200 milliseconds. Or simply the way WA time works --> 00:05:14.68 (Danger time in WA log)

Can I have question? Why the map is so high when 90% of it is under water, so it looks like small map with normal water?

Quote from: Danger135 on December 20, 2023, 02:43 PM
Can I have question? Why the map is so high when 90% of it is under water, so it looks like small map with normal water?

I made it 100% using WA map editor. Even those tiny walls I made them using carefully the brush sizes. That's why the map is not fully simétric. There is one side that has more empty space than the other. It doesn't interfere in the gameplay so much, though.

Why it it is not small? I remember that i was having troubles because the game behaves differently depending on the quantity of land you put on the map. Sometimes girders may appear on the map, sometimes the terrain becomes non-flat on the surface and sometimes if there's low land, some other things may change or the map is not playable.

I remember I tested a lot the map and this one worked perfectly. But it is too tall, so I always played holding the mouse to see the meteors falling from above, to have time to dodge them. I was thinking to create special PNG maps for this scheme with low land, but I would have to balance the meteors all again for that low land map. So, only in this challenge I realized that raising the water it would solve this problem, without needing to balance the meteors and change the whole scheme again.

OK, look attached replay, if you can see any difference. It is played on attached map.

BTW there is sudden death?!     So I need activate armageddon as soon as possible to have SD later?

I'm currently traveling right now. I'm in Belo Horizonte (far from my hometown). I'll stay here for a week I think and I'm not with my computer to watch replays. But as soon as I get back home I'll watch it. I decided to don't create a special scheme for this challenge, so it is exactly the scheme that can be played up to 6 players, this means that yes, if you use Armageddon fast, you will delay the sudden death and more health crates will spawn on the map. Sudden death only ceases the health crate spawns. Nothing else happens.

Quote from: FoxHound on December 23, 2023, 11:51 AMSudden death only ceases the health crate spawns. Nothing else happens.

That is wrong. I noticed that water start rise slowly too on sudden death.

Quote from: Danger135 on December 23, 2023, 01:57 PM
That is wrong. I noticed that water start rise slowly too on sudden death.

I'll have to check this when I arrive home. Might be a bug from TUS. Or maybe it is so small the water rise I didn't notice when playing with normal water level.

EDIT: if I were at home I would download the latest version of the scheme available on worms2d.info: https://worms2d.info/File:Flat_Earth_Apocalypse.wsc

And compare with TUS scheme. I noticed the scheme on TUS is with 5 pixels water rise. If it is different from WKB scheme it is a bug. If it is equal, maybe I choose 5 pixels because I tested with low water level. However for this challenge maybe I should remove the 5 pixels now that I raised the water. Or maybe let it be  this way.

TIP: when making gif from replay, you can disable meteor timers by pressing Del.

Alright, I watched both replays you sent here (I'm back home). Wow! I'm impressed! more than 10 minutes dodging meteors. The water almost plopped your worm!

I realized it was not a TUS bug. I decided to put 5 pixels of water rising in the past because the land was very high when I created the scheme, so it would be almost impossible to a worm plop, I did this in case the game never ends. However, now that the land is low, it doesn't make sense to keep the water rising. I removed the water rising from the scheme (the scheme is now updated).

Your record is still valid, but I'll ask to people update the scheme from now on, however I will accept replays with the old scheme.

I could make the challenge with water rising and make damage as tie-break, but I needed to update the scheme for online play anyway, so I prefered to allow the challenge to last longer.

Maybe I'll try myself to beat you since no other players are trying this chally, and this is the first time I find a player with a very good level of skill in this scheme.

Quote from: Danger135 on December 27, 2023, 02:15 PM
TIP: when making gif from replay, you can disable meteor timers by pressing Del.

Oh, thanks for this tip. I didn't know this was possible, and I always wanted to hide those numbers. Although, it seems that when you do this the worms names are not shown too.