Picking First rule:
When both sides refuse to choose their pick first, "The higher season rating must pick first." This is to stop those unnecessary delays when neither side wants to pick first. You can still play the picks in any order if you want. And if the lower season rating doesn't care, they can still volunteer picking first if they want to.
TTRR Exact Time rule:
Using exact times in TTRR replays to determine the winner is only allowed if both sides agree before the game starts. If one side wants to and the other side doesn't, default to playing by using whole seconds like in the past.
Using worms touching the finish instead of worms hitting their head is also only allowed if both sides agree before the game starts. If one side wants to and the other side doesn't, default to playing by using when the turn timer ends like when hitting your head.
Avoiding rule:
If someone is avoiding, you must save screen shots as proof and post them in a complaint thread. Mods will discuss and if they agree, you can report a free win and that gives the avoider one week of time to play that game. In the case of a clan avoiding, only the players online at the time of the avoid can play.
Waiting for a specific lineup before even asking for a clanner is still perfectly okay. Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
Good one.
I didn't know avoiding wasn't allow XD.
I thought its just lame.
about the picking first rule. how is it at the start of the season, when everyone has the same season rating?
Quote from: Flori on July 04, 2012, 09:45 PM
Good one.
I didn't know avoiding wasn't allow XD.
I thought its just lame.
there never was a rule on it, and now we're trying it.
Quote from: Husk on July 04, 2012, 09:46 PM
about the picking first rule. how is it at the start of the season, when everyone has the same season rating?
if season rating is exact, then the higher overall rating picks first.
Sry about the offtopic.
There's no rule in Proper rules about the zook glitch where you can place the zook on one's head.
Is this allowed?
gimme a definition of avoiding pls. its kinda funny how you guys put up rule without to define the case. otherwise we will have nice stuff in the complaint section. does this rule only appear if a player/clan asks for a game and then doesnt play? or is it enough if i am just online and some stalkers ask me for tus to get accused of avoiding? if i already arrange games via pm, am i forced to show the pms if someone accuses me?
also, u r asking a clanner and suddenly u or ur partner must go, that could be avoiding |:
Quote from: Peja on July 04, 2012, 09:53 PM
gimme a definition of avoiding pls. its kinda funny how you guys put up rule without to define the case. otherwise we will have nice stuff in the complaint section. does this rule only appear if a player/clan asks for a game and then doesnt play? or is it enough if i am just online and some stalkers ask me for tus to get accused of avoiding? if i already arrange games via pm, am i forced to show the pms if someone accuses me?
Mods have to discuss and agree that avoid took place. We can't cover ever scenario in the rules. I can tell you simply being afk is obviously not enough to be considered an avoid. We'll just have to handle case by case basis on the other scenarios like you mention. We'll add to the rule once we start seeing patterns if we need to.
Quote from: Free on July 04, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sry about the offtopic.
There's no rule in Proper rules about the zook glitch where you can place the zook on one's head.
Is this allowed?
I don't think it's in the rules yet, we may need to fix that. Obviously if anyone still dares to do this though, post a complaint and we'll handle accordingly.
Quote from: Husk on July 04, 2012, 09:55 PM
also, u r asking a clanner and suddenly u or ur partner must go, that could be avoiding |:
again, we'll handle case by case basis. if there is reason to be suspicious, we'll try to sniff it out. if people honestly have to go, we'll decide accordingly.
so if i just tell someone to gtfo cos i dont want to play he is able to to denounce me? and i really need to explain myself afterwards?
Quote from: Free on July 04, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sry about the offtopic.
There's no rule in Proper rules about the zook glitch where you can place the zook on one's head.
Is this allowed?
It should, it's just bragging rights as it gives no benefit to the user.
Peja: I think telling someone to gtfo wouldn't be enough proof of you avoiding. What is proof is taking a picture of someone asking to TUS for half an hour and when you ask him to he ignores you / joins a different game of someone who asked afterwards etc...
zook glitch could be useful in roper tho. imagine a tight cave like hide. too risky to shoot a zooka with bad wind, zook glitch would be more than just a show.
never saw someone doing a zook glitch. its hard, need some time, and risky
Some of old school shopper maps have special spots where worms can be knocked, if you make zook glitch on those parts of map - its 100% plop. But I just read you talking about roper, so please dont read that text you already read ;D
About avoiding, Ive been asking everyday Asbest to play tus with me, and his answer always was: I dont play with idiots. Does that count, I can make Asbest B7 forever this way XD
It can be useful and I'd like an official rule about this.
Asbest ain't an avoider dude he doesn't ask tus in ag. Just asking to every noobs that got 0 win and 50 loses in tus if they want to play against him ! But if we ask him, he just can't !!
lool xD i think asbest is the best example about what noobashing is just like how it was in lw with avoiderz /roperz) and how he motivated rox to do it aswell lolol xD
anyway i kinda like this new rule.. some clans will have to be more careful when they avoid and then u see them clanning with others via pm...
No, glitches not allowed.
And great improvement adding these rules.
I think we all know who to trust and who not to trust, we know each other and our common sense is good enough to be able to determine when an avoiding is taking place.
Good job putting up these rules.
One small question about this:
Quote from: franz on July 04, 2012, 09:38 PMUsing worms touching the finish instead of worms hitting their head is also only allowed if both sides agree before the game starts. If one side wants to and the other side doesn't, default to playing by using when the turn timer ends like when hitting your head.
If you play by touching finish, does that mean that if you end your turn before you touch the finish, so you knock your head for instance, but you still touch the finish, that turn doesn't count? It is pretty easy to determine the time your worm touched the finish from the replay, so, I'm just asking.
why do both parties have to agree with the exact time rule? It's a racing game, if someone demands accuracy, you shouldn't deny him that under any condition... ugh, whatever, i give up. another bittersweet moment for tus
Quote from: franz on July 04, 2012, 09:38 PM
Picking First rule:
When both sides refuse to choose their pick first, "The higher season rating must pick first." This is to stop those unnecessary delays when neither side wants to pick first. You can still play the picks in any order if you want. And if the lower season rating doesn't care, they can still volunteer picking first if they want to.
This is really, really, really f@#!ing bad, but i'll just let you all figure it out on your own lol.
Quote from: franz on July 04, 2012, 09:38 PMTTRR Exact Time rule:
Using exact times in TTRR replays to determine the winner is only allowed if both sides agree before the game starts. If one side wants to and the other side doesn't, default to playing by using whole seconds like in the past.
Using worms touching the finish instead of worms hitting their head is also only allowed if both sides agree before the game starts. If one side wants to and the other side doesn't, default to playing by using when the turn timer ends like when hitting your head.
This is just fkn evil!!! Now you are just teasing people who abide by the laws of physics...
Imagine it, I am playing flori, I can't play TTRR as well as others cuz I just simply get nervous because I don't practise enough, but when I am on form, I am shit hot, the 1st game I actually won, but flori didn't agree to live in the f@#!ing real world and instead wants to live in some disney sugar coated fantasy world where the REAL LOSER gets another chance at winning...
Seriously, either implement the rule or just keep it the way it was before, what the f@#! man?
Quote from: franz on July 04, 2012, 09:38 PMAvoiding rule:
If someone is avoiding, you must save screen shots as proof and post them in a complaint thread. Mods will discuss and if they agree, you can report a free win and that gives the avoider one week of time to play that game. In the case of a clan avoiding, only the players online at the time of the avoid can play.
Waiting for a specific lineup before even asking for a clanner is still perfectly okay. Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
It's great you guys are doing something about this avoiding problem, bless you ! But, I hope you have alot of free time on your hands lol...
damn, and i wanted in mm :( (j/k)
ae finaly
Quote from: Komito on July 05, 2012, 08:44 AM
Imagine it, I am playing flori, I can't play TTRR as well as others cuz I just simply get nervous because I don't practise enough, but when I am on form, I am shit hot, the 1st game I actually won, but flori didn't agree to live in the f@#!ing real world and instead wants to live in some disney sugar coated fantasy world where the REAL LOSER gets another chance at winning...
Seriously, either implement the rule or just keep it the way it was before, what the f@#! man?
I hope you know i'll do this even if I get 50 and you 50.98.
Well, I would give you the win, cuz you won :)
Quote from: Komito on July 05, 2012, 08:44 AM
This is really, really, really f@#!ing bad, but i'll just let you all figure it out on your own lol.
Actually, no. Please explain why it's better to have this than to have complaints on the complaint forum where we have to referee who decides the pick first :P Most people can get along just fine without these sort of rules, but apparently, some people aren't able to function in a group without these rules - these rules are there for those people.
Quote from: Flori on July 05, 2012, 01:29 PM
Quote from: Komito on July 05, 2012, 08:44 AM
Imagine it, I am playing flori, I can't play TTRR as well as others cuz I just simply get nervous because I don't practise enough, but when I am on form, I am shit hot, the 1st game I actually won, but flori didn't agree to live in the f@#!ing real world and instead wants to live in some disney sugar coated fantasy world where the REAL LOSER gets another chance at winning...
Seriously, either implement the rule or just keep it the way it was before, what the f@#! man?
I hope you know i'll do this even if I get 50 and you 50.98.
only if the other part agrees ;D
I think the RR rule is pointless if there's not more force behind it, exact times should have precedence, that is, whole-seconders should have to do the work of specifying things before the match. And also, whole seconds shouldn't be able to override exact times, I don't WANT a false win or a false loss, just because my opponent wanted to stick with a flawed system.
Quote from: DarkOne on July 05, 2012, 05:39 PM
Quote from: Komito on July 05, 2012, 08:44 AM
This is really, really, really f@#!ing bad, but i'll just let you all figure it out on your own lol.
Actually, no. Please explain why it's better to have this than to have complaints on the complaint forum where we have to referee who decides the pick first :P Most people can get along just fine without these sort of rules, but apparently, some people aren't able to function in a group without these rules - these rules are there for those people.
Doesn't matter what I say, some faggot will complain about it, so what's the point?
Quote from: Mablak on July 05, 2012, 07:45 PM
I think the RR rule is pointless if there's not more force behind it, exact times should have precedence, that is, whole-seconders should have to do the work of specifying things before the match. And also, whole seconds shouldn't be able to override exact times, I don't WANT a false win or a false loss, just because my opponent wanted to stick with a flawed system.
You all keep having this argument but if you its the opposite and you had lost the 1st game by exact times and then you win the 2nd game because we made it a draw, you wouldn't mind.
Yeah I would mind Flori, I don't want a false representation of skill.
Quote from: Mablak on July 06, 2012, 12:58 AM
Yeah I would mind Flori, I don't want a false representation of skill.
I 2nd that.
I 3rd that
I force that.
I didn't get a thing ! :D