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Other Things => Clans & Communities => b2b => Topic started by: THeDoGG on July 07, 2011, 06:00 PM
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what's the purpose of bng? Not fun, most boring scheme
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i agree bro
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Same goes with rr and roper. How does that feel?
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That's just the same opinion that everybody has about their hated schemes, when i read CMV there up i said, omg atleast there's 1 in tus who agrees with me lol
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what is this topic for? I like bng. Poor try haters...
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what's the purpose of bng? Not fun, most boring scheme
agree :)
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(http://ui08.gamespot.com/1735/failed_2.jpg)
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(http://ui08.gamespot.com/1735/failed_2.jpg)
Lmao, nice picture to summarize how stupid are some players.
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I <3 BnG !!!! best scheme ever !!!!
Zook < nade :D
I hate roper, I don't like ttrr :P
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Lol coek, no worries I corrected his post xD
On a side note, I am dissapointed lol, I seen this thread and thought, ooooo someone's got a BnG related question, time to shine xD
Then :o
Then :(
Then :'(
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This scheme is in no way boring! Best scheme out there. Have you played it at all?
So many different shots, which are all changed at different altitudes and distance between the opposing worms. It's a nice challenge and also makes you feel so good when you get a good shot in :D
Love you BnG xoxo
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Lol coek, no worries I corrected his post xD
On a side note, I am dissapointed lol, I seen this thread and thought, ooooo someone's got a BnG related question, time to shine xD
Then :o
Then :(
Then :'(
Damn man you made me laugh with those cute faces xDD :P
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I dont like bng, but that doesnt make it a bad scheme. There is obviously a lot of skill involved, I just prefer schemes where you can move and use tactics. I also HATE all the rules in league BnG games, completely kills the game when you have to make a shot harder than it needs to be for the sake of being a "sportsman". Completely ridiculous imo, but thats a debate we have had many times already!
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I dont like bng, but that doesnt make it a bad scheme. There is obviously a lot of skill involved, I just prefer schemes where you can move and use tactics. I also HATE all the rules in league BnG games, completely kills the game when you have to make a shot harder than it needs to be for the sake of being a "sportsman". Completely ridiculous imo, but thats a debate we have had many times already!
For once someone who doesn't like BnG said something intelligent about it, +1 (which is like +2 really cuz I smited you earlier lol, lucky you !!! :) )
However, to defend BnG, there isn't rules to kill the game making shots harder than it needs to be, it's actually to make it more interesting, I have turned so many people onto BnG, before I got people hooked on "trick BnG" trick BnG was more a private matter, GreeN, KRD, Bamf, BUD, dw33b, wormf00d and a few more, not everyone knew their talent.
Play MonkeyIsland at BnG then play me or KRD or anyone from b2b, or even Husk, DubC now, all play with style, you cannot deny it's much much more fun and relaxing to play these guys...
At 1st, it looks like I do all these fancy tricks to showoff, but it isn't, I actually do double banks floorbanks, banks, LG zook shots, and normal 5s LG nades, for the specific reason they can reach places that simple shots cannot.
8 years ago, no rules BnG was cool, it was sort of new and still somewhat interesting, today, it's f@#!ing boring and lame lol, LG is the best thing to happen to BnG, ever.
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but, i thought u were the best thing to happen to bng? :D
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Nah, I am just the best at it :D
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lol Komo, I understand both arguments for and against all the rules in BnG.
It seems to me that its more skilled players who prefer all these rules as it makes the game more interesting. For those of us who aren't pro at the scheme, it just makes us want to play it less. Its the fact that the rules are pretty vague, theres no rules set in stone governing how you must shoot and Im tired of being called "lame" for throwing "easy" shots.
Imo there should be no rules and infinite teleports, f7 and f4. I use this reasoning all the time; If you are hiding somewhere where you can be easily hit by a 5 sec sitter, CHANGE YOUR HIDE! Do not say, "ok im in a bad hide here, so you must make your shot harder than it needs to be or else you are a lamer".
Ive seen this mentioned before and I think this would be the best thing to do. Make a rule that states you can throw any shot you like, sitter or not, however you may not hit with the same shot twice. For example, I hit a worm with a 5 sec sitter with no LG on one turn. My next hit MUST be either an LG nade or a zooka, then the process repeats. This would be the best way to keep a variation of shots in the scheme, without all the vagueness of the current "style governing rules".
I need to shred some bits of wood now so this wasnt the best constructed post, but you see the point im making. Im not sure I want to get into another never ending discussion about the rules of BnG, but if you want to ill be able to make better constructed arguments later tonight when im home!
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Well 1st off, I outright disagree with you saying those who aren't pro at the scheme want to play it less playing how we play it.
Since we started b2b we've actually influenced probably more than 200-300 people to play BnG a bit more evolved than oldschool, some still play, some don't, but that's definately more than the people who "hate" it the way we play. It's the same with all schemes, you have the people who like it enough to evolve/progress with it, and the people who don't.
When new players who have never been online before enter AG they always see a b2b member, and our members are all good spirited players and very helpful towards new players.
I am not trying to brag here, just telling the truth, we've probably turned down over 100 players who asked to join b2b (probably half isn't very serious, as in they probably don't really understand what they are joining).
I personally have the evidence to backup my point in regards to influencing other players, and if you want the proof, you can sift through the 10,000+ BnG's i've played over the last 6 years generously sharing skill, support and advice to anyone (whether I like them or not) who is interested in BnG.
And recent games in TuS show a steady increase in amount of BnG's picked this year, so if you ask me, BnG is buzzing right now :)
I can say the same for the ea Community, they have influenced Elite to so many players.
I rest my case.
Edit: I actually don't have the last year of my replays... I accidentally scrubbed one of my external hard drives from my new house while reinstalling windows on another PC... Something I feel crap about :'(
I edited this like 4-5 times I totally rushed it cuz i'm tired sorry if it's a bit rough lol.
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/me still votes for no rules BnG in TUS.
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/me still votes for no rules BnG in TUS.
I've said i'd play no rules BnG too, I like it, it's like, never miss material for me haha :)
Sorry I edited your post darKz I meant to hit "Quote" lol.
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Don't we have elite for that, Dark? :o
Schemes are what you make of them. If you want to make BnG awesome, you go for style because it adds a new challenge with it and a new layer of fun when a completely ridiculous attempt actually works :)
Every scheme can be played in the most lame way imaginable if results are all you care about and so, for every scheme you can say that it sucks and seriously needs to be replaced (except for bungeerace of course :-*)
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id like a no rule bng too my hero, maybe cos iam not that good to make those awesome tricky shoots like komo and others do, all i want is hit my opponent hehe
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Don't we have elite for that, Dark? :o
Schemes are what you make of them. If you want to make BnG awesome, you go for style because it adds a new challenge with it and a new layer of fun when a completely ridiculous attempt actually works :)
Every scheme can be played in the most lame way imaginable if results are all you care about and so, for every scheme you can say that it sucks and seriously needs to be replaced (except for bungeerace of course :-*)
Elite is nothing like BnG... Elite is a tactics based scheme, in no way is it a form of no rules BnG, nor does it resemble any similarity to BnG, rules or not. You cant play a lame Elite, Team17, ttrr, Shopper, wxw.... or any other scheme for that matter. It annoys me so much when people yell "lame" (as you have done to me for hiding on the edge in hysteria, a standard play) because they cant be bothered to think of a counter tactic in retaliation to a players safe play or darkside.
People that yell lame are the people who hate to lose the most, this is the great irony of it all. If I am playing a competitive game, of course I want to win, thats why im playing a competitive game. If I want to do crazy tricks with no thought given to the outcome of the game I will play a funner. Whilst I want to win, that doesnt mean I dont enjoy the process in between the start and end of a game. We play competitively because we enjoy competing and trying our hardest to outwit our opponent and win the game. Even if we lose, its the challenge that we enjoy. A win is just the icing on the cake. Whether I win or lose, I always say GG and I NEVER, EVER, EVER call people lame, unlike some people.
Its the fact that the rules of bng are so vague... people are thinking "Can I do this? Will I get called lame if I do this?" etc... I also dont see why you think that playing bng with no rules automatically makes the scheme "lame". People are still going to have to shoot well to win the game. They are also going to have to hide well, the scheme will still be dynamic and a variation of shots will still be required to win the game.
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Don't we have elite for that, Dark? :o
Schemes are what you make of them. If you want to make BnG awesome, you go for style because it adds a new challenge with it and a new layer of fun when a completely ridiculous attempt actually works :)
Every scheme can be played in the most lame way imaginable if results are all you care about and so, for every scheme you can say that it sucks and seriously needs to be replaced (except for bungeerace of course :-*)
Elite is nothing like BnG... Elite is a tactics based scheme, in no way is it a form of no rules BnG, nor does it resemble any similarity to BnG, rules or not. You cant play a lame Elite, Team17, ttrr, Shopper, wxw.... or any other scheme for that matter. It annoys me so much when people yell "lame" (as you have done to me for hiding on the edge in hysteria, a standard play) because they cant be bothered to think of a counter tactic in retaliation to a players safe play or darkside.
People that yell lame are the people who hate to lose the most, this is the great irony of it all. If I am playing a competitive game, of course I want to win, thats why im playing a competitive game. If I want to do crazy tricks with no thought given to the outcome of the game I will play a funner. Whilst I want to win, that doesnt mean I dont enjoy the process in between the start and end of a game. We play competitively because we enjoy competing and trying our hardest to outwit our opponent and win the game. Even if we lose, its the challenge that we enjoy. A win is just the icing on the cake. Whether I win or lose, I always say GG and I NEVER, EVER, EVER call people lame, unlike some people.
Its the fact that the rules of bng are so vague... people are thinking "Can I do this? Will I get called lame if I do this?" etc... I also dont see why you think that playing bng with no rules automatically makes the scheme "lame". People are still going to have to shoot well to win the game. They are also going to have to hide well, the scheme will still be dynamic and a variation of shots will still be required to win the game.
Nail you couldn't be further from the truth, the fact that you even think this shows you have no idea about the present BnG community and the players who make it worth playing... Hardly anyone actually complains nowadays because most people DO play a bit more dignified than before, thinking people who yell lame are the ones who hate to lose the most? What exactly do you base that on lol?
Humans in general don't like to lose, anything lol.
And tbh I don't think anyone can say it better than DarkOne...
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hmmm... as to what exactly couldnt I be further from the truth? My karma just went up by 5 in the minutes after that post so obviously some people share my opinion.
Mate, what the hell are you talking about? Why are you talking about the "bng community" I DID NOT MENTION THE BNG COMMUNITY! My last post was mainly about people yelling "lame", please explain how what I said about that is far from the truth. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BNG COMMUNITY!
My opinion is a reflection of those NOT A PART OF THE "BNG COMMUNITY". I understand that you guys like to play with style in mind, I UNDERSTAND THAT! I UNDEEERSTAND THAAAATTTTT!!!!! Stop bringing up the "bng community" when its VERY CLEAR I am not talking about the BNG community, cant make that any more obvious.
My point is about BnG as a TUS LEAGUE SCHEME, and the rules of BnG AS A TUS LEAGUE SCHEME! I UNDERSTAND, that you love BnG and are a member of the "BnG community", but let me say this again, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BNG COMMUNITY NOR DID I ONCE MENTION THE BNG COMMUNITY.
My opinion is that of one of the many LEAGUE PLAYERS who dislike the current rules of BnG as a TUS LEAGUE SCHEME, the vagueness of the rules and the possibility of changing the rules to make the scheme more accessible and more enjoyable AS PART OF A TUS LEAGUE SCHME!
Just incase you forget, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BNG COMMUNITY NOR DID I ONCE MENTION THE BNG COMMUNITY, SO STOP SAYING I DONT KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!
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Nail, seriously, you don't know what you are talking about, stop typing as if you are shouting, It doesn't make you any louder lol, f@#!ing calm down you freek haha.
Just winding you up lol, jus cuz it's easy lol, but nah man seriously, I ain't even gonna reply to you anymore because you think everything is against you in some way endangering your health or something, you take arguements way way way too seriously and continously make wrong assumptions.
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Classic komo, chat shit and then unable to justify the shit he just chat.
Fail.
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Nail, you will NEVER win this one, NEVER, i've played more BnG's with more people than you could imagine, "lame lame" etc isn't a big deal anymore.
Now shutup and stop moaning ffs, all you ever do is moan moan moan moan, moan moan whine... f@#!ing chillout lol, i'm on holiday !
And what a surprise the people who "applauded" you are the same bunch that don't like me lol, whoopdee f@#!ing doo, that doesn't make you right, who the f@#! cares about f@#!ing karma, f@#!ing grow up lol.
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komo, nail actually has a point here, it seems that peoples have to play with some style and make tricky shoots only cos bng community, talking about myself, i even like bng, but like i said all i want is hit my opponent, it is kinda boring to me have to make shoots with lg bounces and stuff when i can throw a nade and still hit ae.
thats what nail meants ae.
the skill in b2b is very high and rest of TUS is diferent ae.
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He's not right nino, both of you rarely even play BnG, I played more "TuS BnG" than anyone, by a MILE, and NO ONE I played was moaning about cheap shots etc, the only person that really threw cheap nades was MonkeyIsland, and I am cool with that...
You don't even understand the "passion" behind BnG this "lame" thing you talk about is nothing more than a stupid immature myth these days, no one even cares that much when people are being cheap anymore.
People who talk like nail, just don't appreciate BnG, and don't like it, and don't wish to learn (and there is NOTHING wrong with that).
Only difference is BnG haters are all whiny c@#!s, I don't like Elite or T17 but I don't go out my way to moan like a 5 year old bitch like Nail is doing right now lol.
And yes, we expect people to play with more skill than 8 years ago it's f@#!ing progress, just like in everything in this world, people are expected to keep up with the times, or fall behind, deal with it.
You know what I am locking this stupid f@#!ing thread...
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He's not right nino, both of you rarely even play BnG, I played more "TuS BnG" than anyone, by a MILE, and NO ONE I played was moaning about cheap shots etc, the only person that really threw cheap nades was MonkeyIsland, and I am cool with that...
You don't even understand the "passion" behind BnG this "lame" thing you talk about is nothing more than a stupid immature myth these days, no one even cares that much when people are being cheap anymore.
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And yes, we expect people to play with more skill than 8 years ago it's f@#!ing progress, just like in everything in this world, people are expected to keep up with the times, or fall behind, deal with it.
I rarely applaud you Komo, but this time I fully agree. +1
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I also dont see why you think that playing bng with no rules automatically makes the scheme "lame".
Strange, I don't recall saying that. Not even after reading my own post again.
For the record, I didn't call your play lame because you teleported to the side, but because you didn't even bother to try something else and because those tactics are boring (most of all because the best counter tactic is wasting 10 turns to set off sd). To me, teleporting to the side is a last resort.
Elite is nothing like BnG... Elite is a tactics based scheme, in no way is it a form of no rules BnG, nor does it resemble any similarity to BnG, rules or not.
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-76494/ First elite game between two people with higher ranks than one star. Looks like a lot of no rules BnG to me and then some other turns when the players see an opportunity to cause more damage.
Of course there are tactics in elite, what makes you think I don't know that? But there are tactical elements in no rule BnG too, I don't exactly understand why you went lupus on my comments.
I think I can say I'm not really part of "the BnG community". Hardly ever played in a2b or basically BnG at all. But the reason I like to play BnG now and then is because I get to f@#! around with crazy shots to see if they will hit. With that in mind, I still try to win of course, but for instance if there's no wind a BnG, I don't use bazooka. I realise this is my own little quirk, but this is what BnG is to me.
If I want to lob grenades without caring for style, I'll play elite or hysteria.
That's what my comment was about.
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ya well this is why a2b exists separate from tus bng or whatever
i like no rules bng too, is almost two different games entirely